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Caps

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Aug 31, 2001, 7:26:03 PM8/31/01
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Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

John DeFiore

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Aug 31, 2001, 7:56:56 PM8/31/01
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"Caps" <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote in message
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> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

It's Jennifer.

J-


Skitt

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"John DeFiore" <johnd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.
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John Seeliger

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Skitt <sk...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
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>
> "John DeFiore" <johnd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9mp82h$hne$1...@bob.news.rcn.net...
> >
> > "Caps" <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote in message
> > news:6670pts5ej3ajir97...@4ax.com...
> > > Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
> >
> > It's Jennifer.
>
> Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.

Or Gennifer (as in Flowers).

btw, checking the spelling, I found this interestingly named establishment:

Clinton Flowers - Clinton Township, MI 48035
CLINTON FLOWERS & GIFTS - BEANIE BABIES TY BEANIE BABIES 33147 GRATIOT AVE,
CLINTON
TWP MI 48035 PHONE:810-790-ROSE (7673) FAX:810-790-2070 TOLL FREE ORDER ...

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Mark Brader

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Aug 31, 2001, 8:40:56 PM8/31/01
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> > > > Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
> > >
> > > It's Jennifer.
> >
> > Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.
>
> Or Gennifer ...

Or Jenifer.

But, yes, Jennifer is the "ordinary" form. In the Internet Movie Database
there are 44 people going by the name Jenifer (or both Jennifer and Jenifer)
4 using Jenniffer, 3 using Jeniffer, 1 using Gennifer -- and some of these
may represent typos rather than genuine names -- but there are many hundreds
with the name Jennifer.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "... people are *always* doing stuff ...
m...@vex.net that I wish were typos" --Marcy Thompson

Richard Fontana

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Aug 31, 2001, 9:32:17 PM8/31/01
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Caps wrote:

> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

The most standard and popular spelling of the name is "Jennifer".

daniel gerard mcgrath

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Aug 31, 2001, 9:56:40 PM8/31/01
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:40:56 +0000 (UTC), m...@vex.net (Mark Brader)
wrote:

>> > > > Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>> > >
>> > > It's Jennifer.
>> >
>> > Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.
>>
>> Or Gennifer ...
>
>Or Jenifer.
>
>But, yes, Jennifer is the "ordinary" form. In the Internet Movie Database
>there are 44 people going by the name Jenifer (or both Jennifer and Jenifer)
>4 using Jenniffer, 3 using Jeniffer, 1 using Gennifer -- and some of these
>may represent typos rather than genuine names -- but there are many hundreds
>with the name Jennifer.

I also once saw "Jennifur".

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Odysseus

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Aug 31, 2001, 9:49:54 PM8/31/01
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Skitt wrote:
>
> > > Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
> >
> > It's Jennifer.
>
> Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.
>
As does Guinevere ...

--Odysseus

Martin Ambuhl

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Aug 31, 2001, 10:00:13 PM8/31/01
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Caps wrote:
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> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

Whatever spelling she uses.

John Seeliger

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Aug 31, 2001, 10:00:35 PM8/31/01
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daniel gerard mcgrath <dmcg...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<3b903fc3...@news.ggn.net>...

> On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:40:56 +0000 (UTC), m...@vex.net (Mark Brader)
> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
> >> > >
> >> > > It's Jennifer.
> >> >
> >> > Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.
> >>
> >> Or Gennifer ...
> >
> >Or Jenifer.
> >
> >But, yes, Jennifer is the "ordinary" form. In the Internet Movie
Database
> >there are 44 people going by the name Jenifer (or both Jennifer and
Jenifer)
> >4 using Jenniffer, 3 using Jeniffer, 1 using Gennifer -- and some of
these
> >may represent typos rather than genuine names -- but there are many
hundreds
> >with the name Jennifer.
>
> I also once saw "Jennifur".

Now all we need is a Jenniphur or Jennipher or Jeniphur or Jenipher (or the
same, except with G).

Lars Eighner

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Aug 31, 2001, 9:56:52 PM8/31/01
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In our last episode,
<Pine.GSO.4.21.010831...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>,
the lovely and talented Richard Fontana
broadcast on alt.usage.english:

RF> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Caps wrote:
>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

RF> The most standard and popular spelling of the name is "Jennifer".

Genephyr

Remember, you saw it here first.

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Robert Lieblich

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Aug 31, 2001, 11:10:03 PM8/31/01
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Bingo!

The correct spelling of "Jennifer" is "Jennifer."
The correct spelling of "Jeniffer" is "Jeniffer."
The correct spelling of "Gennifer" is "Gennifer."

The most common spelling of names pronounced like "Jennifer" is
indeed "Jennifer."

What was the question again?

Franke

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Sep 1, 2001, 12:42:04 AM9/1/01
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Caps wrote:

> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

Normally, it's "Jennifer", but it varies with
the person who wears the moniker. It could
as easily be "Genifur" or "Gennifer".

Opus the Penguin

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Sep 1, 2001, 12:49:54 AM9/1/01
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Skitt wrote:

>John DeFiore wrote:
>> It's Jennifer.
>
> Unless the name is Jeniffer, or even Jenniffer. They all exist.

Irrelevant to this thread. Now if the subject line had said, 'What's
the right spelling for "Jeniffer"'....

--
Opus the Penguin

Jitze Couperus

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Sep 1, 2001, 3:20:10 AM9/1/01
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On 31 Aug 2001 20:56:52 -0500, Lars Eighner <eig...@io.com> wrote:

>In our last episode,
><Pine.GSO.4.21.010831...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>,
>the lovely and talented Richard Fontana
>broadcast on alt.usage.english:
>
>RF> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Caps wrote:
>>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>
>RF> The most standard and popular spelling of the name is "Jennifer".
>
>Genephyr
>

Which of course is derived from Guinevere.

Jitze

Skitt

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"Opus the Penguin" <opusthe...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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Well caught.

Mike Barnes

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Sep 1, 2001, 5:44:16 PM9/1/01
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In alt.usage.english, Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote

>Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

It's "Jennifer".

But if you'd asked 'What's the right spelling for "Jeniffer"', the
answer would have been "Jeniffer".

--
Mike Barnes

Steve Hayes

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Sep 1, 2001, 11:45:44 PM9/1/01
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:26:03 -0700, Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote:

>Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

I've never seen Jeniffer.

Jennifer is common, but it is also sometimes spelt Jenifer, Jenefer and
Guinevere.

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Richard Fontana

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Sep 2, 2001, 12:31:43 AM9/2/01
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Steve Hayes wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:26:03 -0700, Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote:
>
> >Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>
> I've never seen Jeniffer.
>
> Jennifer is common, but it is also sometimes spelt Jenifer, Jenefer and
> Guinevere.

I think "Guinevere" has to be considered a different name, even though
Jennifer is derived from it. Similarly, "Mary" and "Maria" are not the
same name, nor are either of them the same as "Miriam".

Steve Hayes

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Sep 3, 2001, 12:11:05 AM9/3/01
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:31:43 -0400, Richard Fontana <rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>
wrote:

Like Tamsin and Thomasina, perhaps?

Steve MacGregor

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Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote in message news:<6670pts5ej3ajir97...@4ax.com>...

> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

Ask her how her name is spelled; she's the authority on this.

--
You might as well ask, "Is it Steven or Stephen?" I would answer,
"Stephen", and others would correctly answer otherwise.

GrapeApe

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Sep 3, 2001, 5:27:30 PM9/3/01
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>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>
>Ask her how her name is spelled; she's the authority on this.
>
>--
>You might as well ask, "Is it Steven or Stephen?" I would answer,
>"Stephen", and others would correctly answer otherwise.

Well really, it is not necessarily Jenny or Steves choice, but their parents.

That being said, I would say Jennifer is the most common spelling.

Aaron J Dinkin

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John Seeliger <jsee...@prodigy.net> wrote:

Once in a while one hears tell of a "Jenni4".

-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom

M. Ranjit Mathews

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"John DeFiore" <johnd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<9mp82h$hne$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...

Did that come from Gwenefahr (Guinevere)?

Steve MacGregor

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grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote in message news:<20010903172730...@mb-ch.aol.com>...

> Well really, it is not necessarily Jenny or Steve's choice, but
> their parents'. That being said, I would say Jennifer is the
> most common spelling.

Not so in the US of A; here, we can change our names with no special
problem. My sister was born Diane McGregor, and she decided to spell
her name "Dianne". I was born Stephen McGregor, and now go by
"Stephen MacGregor". It's spelled that way on all legal documents
now, though my father and brother still spell the last name without
the "A".

--
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Charles Riggs

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On 4 Sep 2001 21:41:34 -0700, st...@steve-and-pattie.com (Steve
MacGregor) wrote:

I don't think you can, willy-nilly, legally change the spelling of
your name like that, especially not your surname. It is McGregor on
your birth certificate, is it not? Unless a court has allowed the name
change, I'd say that's still your name.

Charles Riggs

Mike Oliver

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Sep 5, 2001, 2:38:02 AM9/5/01
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Not so. Under the common law as understood in the United States, you
can change your name simply by changing it, and getting other people
to go along with it. Going through the courts can save some hassles,
but it isn't legally necessary. (I wonder about Louisiana, which
is the only non-common-law state; their law derives from the Napoleonic
code.)

ObAUE--"willy nilly", I thought, meant that you had *no* choice
in the matter. Is this a "skunked" phrase? What was the precise
definition of "skunked" again?

Richard Fontana

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Sep 5, 2001, 3:55:12 AM9/5/01
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In the U.S. of A. (I suspect this is even true of Louisiana, but I can't
find any reliable information on this) you can generally change your name
without court permission.

Padraig Breathnach

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Mike Oliver <oli...@math.ucla.edu> wrote:

>Charles Riggs wrote:
>>
>> I don't think you can, willy-nilly, legally change the spelling of
>> your name like that, especially not your surname. It is McGregor on
>> your birth certificate, is it not? Unless a court has allowed the name
>> change, I'd say that's still your name.
>
>Not so. Under the common law as understood in the United States, you
>can change your name simply by changing it, and getting other people
>to go along with it. Going through the courts can save some hassles,
>but it isn't legally necessary. (I wonder about Louisiana, which
>is the only non-common-law state; their law derives from the Napoleonic
>code.)
>

I don't know about Louisiana, but can tell you that Charles may, if he
wishes, change his name here in Ireland without legal formalities. It
adds a little complication to applying for certain official documents
such as passports or driving licences; the issuing authority has to be
satisfied that the applicant is generally known by the new or revised
name.

PB

Alan Jones

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"Richard Fontana" <rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu> wrote in message
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That's so in UK, too, though there may be problems with convincing banks
etc. that you really are the same person as you used to be. It might
therefore be prudent (though it's not essential) to "execute a deed
poll" formalising the change in a legally recognised way. To change a
baptismal name is not ecclesiastically acceptable, though people often
add a name at confirmation. "Court permission" has never been needed,
TTBOMK.

Alan Jones


Steve Hayes

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Sep 5, 2001, 2:52:53 PM9/5/01
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:03:30 +0100, Charles Riggs <chr...@gofree.indigo.ie>
wrote:

In most countries you can change your name to anything you like.

There were some legal restrictions in WWII in South Africa -- they were afraid
of German spies changing their anmes, so the Aliens Act was amended to say
intended name changes had to be announced in the newspapers.

Richard Fontana

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On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Steve Hayes wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:03:30 +0100, Charles Riggs <chr...@gofree.indigo.ie>
> wrote:
>
> >On 4 Sep 2001 21:41:34 -0700, st...@steve-and-pattie.com (Steve
> >MacGregor) wrote:
> >
> >>grap...@aol.comjunk (GrapeApe) wrote in message news:<20010903172730...@mb-ch.aol.com>...
> >>
> >>> Well really, it is not necessarily Jenny or Steve's choice, but
> >>> their parents'. That being said, I would say Jennifer is the
> >>> most common spelling.
> >>
> >>Not so in the US of A; here, we can change our names with no special
> >>problem. My sister was born Diane McGregor, and she decided to spell
> >>her name "Dianne". I was born Stephen McGregor, and now go by
> >>"Stephen MacGregor". It's spelled that way on all legal documents
> >>now, though my father and brother still spell the last name without
> >>the "A".
> >
> >I don't think you can, willy-nilly, legally change the spelling of
> >your name like that, especially not your surname. It is McGregor on
> >your birth certificate, is it not? Unless a court has allowed the name
> >change, I'd say that's still your name.
>
> In most countries you can change your name to anything you like.

I believe, though, that outside of the Anglo-American countries
permission of a court or other governmental entity is required, thought it
may in practice usually be granted (though I understand that some European
countries place general restrictions on the names that can be chosen for
children, so I assume that similar restrictions would be placed on adult
name-changers). Apparently at least some US states do not allow prisoners
(= US euph. "prison inmates") to change their names by court order while
still serving out their sentences; but presumably they can still adopt a
new name without court permission, and this will become their new name to
the extent that the common-law right to change one's name applies.

Charles Riggs

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:38:02 -0700, Mike Oliver <oli...@math.ucla.edu>
wrote:

>Charles Riggs wrote:

>> I don't think you can, willy-nilly, legally change the spelling of
>> your name like that, especially not your surname. It is McGregor on
>> your birth certificate, is it not? Unless a court has allowed the name
>> change, I'd say that's still your name.

>ObAUE--"willy nilly", I thought, meant that you had *no* choice


>in the matter. Is this a "skunked" phrase? What was the precise
>definition of "skunked" again?

Perhaps I didn't use "willy-nilly" correctly since the COD gives the
meaning, "whether one likes it or not". I was using it to mean "just
for the hell of it because one wants to", which, I think, is closer to
its true meaning. I wouldn't say the word was used often enough to
acquire a skunked status.

Charles Riggs

afza...@gmail.com

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Jannifar

Peter Young

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On 26 Jul 2016 afza...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jannifar

Guinevere.

Peter.

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snide...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:12:53 AM UTC-7, Peter Young wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2016 afza...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Jannifar
>
> Guinevere.
>
> Peter.

Some people thought so in 2001, too. Some of the prior posters to the thread
are still with us. (Hello, Dingbat)

/dps

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT), afza...@gmail.com wrote:

>Jannifar

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_(given_name)>


--
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(in alt.usage.english)

RH Draney

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Jul 26, 2016, 7:27:35 PM7/26/16
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On 7/26/2016 10:37 AM, afza...@gmail.com wrote:
> Jannifar

Jenever...I'll have mine with tonic....r

Dr. HotSalt

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On Monday, September 3, 2001 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-7, Steve MacGregor wrote:
> Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote in message news:<6670pts5ej3ajir97...@4ax.com>...
>
> > Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>
> Ask her how her name is spelled; she's the authority on this.

Well duh, as the kids say today.

> You might as well ask, "Is it Steven or Stephen?" I would answer,
> "Stephen", and others would correctly answer otherwise.

Then why (he inquired rhetorically) do you not post as Stephe?


Dr. HotSalt

Lewis

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Jul 26, 2016, 10:32:58 PM7/26/16
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In message <5f8a1499-179d-4226...@googlegroups.com>
afza...@gmail.com <afza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jannifar

The one the person named Jennifer uses.

There are many spellings.

Jennifer is most common, but there is an actress who spells it Ginnifer.
I've also seen Jennafer Jenapher Genifer Jenifer and probably others.

--
"He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the
dictionary." - William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway).

Tony Cooper

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:07:07 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <5f8a1499-179d-4226...@googlegroups.com>
> afza...@gmail.com <afza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jannifar
>
>The one the person named Jennifer uses.
>
>There are many spellings.
>
>Jennifer is most common, but there is an actress who spells it Ginnifer.
>I've also seen Jennafer Jenapher Genifer Jenifer and probably others.

Oh, dammit, now I'll be hearing that worm in my ear singing "Jennifer
Juniper" all night. Not by Donovan, though. I prefer Theo Bikel's
cover.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

bill van

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In article <nn8ro...@news6.newsguy.com>, RH Draney <dado...@cox.net>
wrote:

> On 7/26/2016 10:37 AM, afza...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Jannifar
>
> Jenever...I'll have mine with tonic....r

If it's jenever/genever, it's supposed to be drunk chilled and neat,
preferably with a beer chaser.
--
bill

Fred

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On 27/07/2016 5:37 a.m., afza...@gmail.com wrote:
> Jannifar
>
No, but it's the right spelling for Jannifar.

Steve Hayes

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:11:07 +0100, Peter Young wrote:

> On 26 Jul 2016 afza...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Jannifar
>
> Guinevere.

Jenepher


--
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Athel Cornish-Bowden

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On 2016-07-27 04:18:02 +0000, bill van said:

> In article <nn8ro...@news6.newsguy.com>, RH Draney <dado...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/26/2016 10:37 AM, afza...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Jannifar
>>
>> Jenever...I'll have mine with tonic....r
>
> If it's jenever/genever, it's supposed to be drunk chilled and neat,

That's what I was told by someone who brought me a bottle of Dutch gin
from Holland. He said I should keep it in the freezer, so I did. Tonic
goes very well with London gin, however.

> preferably with a beer chaser.


--
athel

jenniferb...@gmail.com

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On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?


Jennifer

Garrett Wollman

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In article <7fbee5b2-65a8-414e...@googlegroups.com>,
Or, more generally, it's however the specific person you're referring
to spells it -- the same for every other personal name.

-GAWollman

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Ken Blake

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC), wol...@bimajority.org
(Garrett Wollman) wrote:

>In article <7fbee5b2-65a8-414e...@googlegroups.com>,
> <jenniferb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
>>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>>
>>
>>Jennifer
>
>Or, more generally, it's however the specific person you're referring
>to spells it -- the same for every other personal name.


That's certainly true, however I've never seen anyone spell it
Jeniffer.

Garrett Wollman

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In article <bgd15e19eoav92frr...@4ax.com>,
Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>That's certainly true, however I've never seen anyone spell it
>Jeniffer.

Never underestimate the desire of parents to give their child a
"unique" name.

Ken Blake

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:08:51 +0000 (UTC), wol...@bimajority.org
(Garrett Wollman) wrote:

>In article <bgd15e19eoav92frr...@4ax.com>,
>Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>That's certainly true, however I've never seen anyone spell it
>>Jeniffer.
>
>Never underestimate the desire of parents to give their child a
>"unique" name.


Also very often true, but that doesn't change the fact that I have

Horace LaBadie

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In article <bgd15e19eoav92frr...@4ax.com>,
Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> wrote:

Would Jenniffer do?

The Representative in Congress from Puerto Rico is Jenniffer
Gonzalez-Colon.

<https://gonzalez-colon.house.gov/>

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:58:10 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
The spellings Jenifer and Jennipher apparently exist.
http://www.babynamewizard.com/baby-name/girl/jennifer

Origin of the name Jennifer:

Cornish derivation of Guinevere, which is from the Welsh Gwenhwyfar
(fair lady). Until the 20th century, Jennifer was largely a regional
name. Now, however, it has become one of the most popular names in
the English-speaking world.
From A World of Baby Names by Teresa Norman.

Related Names:
Ginevra, Guinevere, Jenifer, Jennie, Jennipher, Jenny, Yennifer

Madrigal Gurneyhalt

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My ex was (probably still is) a Jenefer, just to add to the mix.

Mark Brader

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Garrett Wollman:
>> Never underestimate the desire of parents to give their child a
>> "unique" name.

Ken Blake:
> Also very often true, but that doesn't change the fact that I have
> ever seen anyone spell it Jeniffer.

The IMDB thinks it knows of two actresses who go by the single name
"Jeniffer", but they each have only one film credit and no biographical
details, so I'm not sure how confident they are that they're two
different people. The two movies in question were both made in India,
but are in different languages.

The IMDB also knows of a Yeniffer Behrens, a Venezuelan-born actress
who also goes by Jeniffer Behrens. According to an IMDB trivia
item about her, she thought Jeniffer was her actual name until she
applied for a driver's license and the clerk pointed out that her
birth certificate showed it as Yeniffer. "Her parents were also
surprised", it says, "and then confirmed that the unique spelling
was actually due to a typographical error committed at the hospital
when she was born."

Finally there is a Philippine-born actress named Jennifer Lee, who
they have "Jeniffer Lee" as an alternate name for. But they only show
that name being used once, so it sounds as though it was just a typo
in some credits.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "It's a massive 'Get out of Euclid free' card."
m...@vex.net | --Matt Parker

My text in this article is in the public domain.

bill van

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On 2019-01-29 18:37:39 +0000, Joe W Dee said:

> On Jan 29, 2019, jenniferb...@gmail.com wrote
> (in article<7fbee5b2-65a8-414e...@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
>>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>>
>> Jennifer
>
> But also Jenifer. I know one of those.

Wikipedia provides variations that overlap with the ones already posted:

>>> • Jennefer (rare)
>>> • Jenifer (rare)
>>> • Jeniffer (rare)
>>> • Jenipher (very rare)
>>> • Jennifer
>>> • Jhennifer (very rare)

It adds that Jennifer is a Cornish form, cognate with the Welsh form
Gwenhwyfar and with the Old Irish Findabair.

'Despite the name's similarity to the Old English words "jenefer",
"genefer" and "jinifer", all of which were variants of Juniper used to
describe the juniper tree, there is no evidence that it comes from
these.'

Also, diminutives:

>>> • Jen (common)
>>> • Jenn
>>> • Jenna
>>> • Jeni (rare)
>>> • Jenie (rare)
>>> • Jeny (rare)
>>> • Jenni
>>> • Jennie (common)
>>> • Jenny (common)

bill

Horace LaBadie

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In article <q2qs0n$2ba$1...@dont-email.me>, bill van <bill...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
The infamous Gennifer Flowers comes to mind.

Tony Cooper

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:50:24 -0500, Horace LaBadie
<hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:

>The infamous Gennifer Flowers comes to mind.

It is Jennifer Juniper that comes to my mind. The "B side" of the
original Donovan recording was "Poor Cow".

While "Jennifer Juniper" is a Donovan song, my favorite recording was
by Theo Bikel.

Peter Moylan

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Jan 30, 2019, 7:22:39 AM1/30/19
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I'm sure Caps will be grateful for that answer. He's been waiting 18 years.

--
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia

J. J. Lodder

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Jan 30, 2019, 9:23:10 AM1/30/19
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bill van <bill...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> On 2019-01-29 18:37:39 +0000, Joe W Dee said:
>
> > On Jan 29, 2019, jenniferb...@gmail.com wrote
> > (in article<7fbee5b2-65a8-414e...@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> >> On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
> >>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
> >>
> >> Jennifer
> >
> > But also Jenifer. I know one of those.
>
> Wikipedia provides variations that overlap with the ones already posted:
>
> >>> • Jennefer (rare)
> >>> • Jenifer (rare)
> >>> • Jeniffer (rare)
> >>> • Jenipher (very rare)
> >>> • Jennifer
> >>> • Jhennifer (very rare)
>
> It adds that Jennifer is a Cornish form, cognate with the Welsh form
> Gwenhwyfar and with the Old Irish Findabair.
>
> 'Despite the name's similarity to the Old English words "jenefer",
> "genefer" and "jinifer", all of which were variants of Juniper used to
> describe the juniper tree, there is no evidence that it comes from
> these.'

And on to 'jenever', the stuff in bottles from Schiedam
that the English need to derive some courage from,

Jan

Ken Blake

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Jan 30, 2019, 10:12:31 AM1/30/19
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I thought I knew all of Theodore Bikel's recordings, but I had never
hear of that song before. I just tried YouTube; they have Donovan's
recording, but not Bikel's.

Madrigal Gurneyhalt

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Jan 30, 2019, 10:18:21 AM1/30/19
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I'm with you, I can find no evidence of such a track in the catalogue.

Peter T. Daniels

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He didn't say Theodore, he said Theo. Maybe some local Orlando folkie.

Tony Cooper

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Jan 30, 2019, 10:49:50 AM1/30/19
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 08:12:24 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:31:15 -0500, Tony Cooper
><tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:50:24 -0500, Horace LaBadie
>><hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The infamous Gennifer Flowers comes to mind.
>>
>>It is Jennifer Juniper that comes to my mind. The "B side" of the
>>original Donovan recording was "Poor Cow".
>>
>>While "Jennifer Juniper" is a Donovan song, my favorite recording was
>>by Theo Bikel.
>
>
>I thought I knew all of Theodore Bikel's recordings, but I had never
>hear of that song before. I just tried YouTube; they have Donovan's
>recording, but not Bikel's.

I had it on an 8-track. Several songs including his recording of
"Piggies", and that is on YouTube.

You might be surprised at the type of songs Bikel recorded. How about
traditional Celtic folk songs like "Carlton Weaver", sea chantey "Haul
Away Joe", and Canadian "Springhill Mine Disaster" (Folksinger's
Choice Album, 1964).

"Jennifer Jupiter" was on "A New Day" (1969).

CDB

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On 1/29/2019 7:27 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
> Ken Blake:
>> Garrett Wollman:

>>> Never underestimate the desire of parents to give their child a
>>> "unique" name.
>> Also very often true, but that doesn't change the fact that I have
>> ever seen anyone spell it Jeniffer.

> The IMDB thinks it knows of two actresses who go by the single name
> "Jeniffer", but they each have only one film credit and no
> biographical details, so I'm not sure how confident they are that
> they're two different people. The two movies in question were both
> made in India, but are in different languages.

> The IMDB also knows of a Yeniffer Behrens, a Venezuelan-born actress
> who also goes by Jeniffer Behrens. According to an IMDB trivia item
> about her, she thought Jeniffer was her actual name until she applied
> for a driver's license and the clerk pointed out that her birth
> certificate showed it as Yeniffer. "Her parents were also
> surprised", it says, "and then confirmed that the unique spelling was
> actually due to a typographical error committed at the hospital when
> she was born."

The spelling with "Y" is more likely to produce a pronunciation
beginning with [dZ] (instead of [x]) from a Spanish-speaker.

Tony Cooper

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Damned if I care what *you* can't find. It's simple enough to do so.
Search Bikel + discography, look through the albums listed for the
tracks, and see:

https://www.discogs.com/Theo-Bikel-A-New-Day/master/1160070

Perhaps you and PTD can find a remedial course on websearch skills for
the cack-fingered.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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On 2019-01-30 13:22:36 +0100, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> said:

> On 30/01/19 05:29, jenniferb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
>
>>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>>
>> Jennifer
>
> I'm sure Caps will be grateful for that answer. He's been waiting 18 years.

Probably checking the news every day in the increasingly despondent
hope that someone will reply.


--
athel

Ken Blake

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:49:47 -0500, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 08:12:24 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:31:15 -0500, Tony Cooper
>><tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:50:24 -0500, Horace LaBadie
>>><hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The infamous Gennifer Flowers comes to mind.
>>>
>>>It is Jennifer Juniper that comes to my mind. The "B side" of the
>>>original Donovan recording was "Poor Cow".
>>>
>>>While "Jennifer Juniper" is a Donovan song, my favorite recording was
>>>by Theo Bikel.
>>
>>
>>I thought I knew all of Theodore Bikel's recordings, but I had never
>>hear of that song before. I just tried YouTube; they have Donovan's
>>recording, but not Bikel's.
>
>I had it on an 8-track. Several songs including his recording of
>"Piggies", and that is on YouTube.
>
>You might be surprised at the type of songs Bikel recorded. How about
>traditional Celtic folk songs like "Carlton Weaver", sea chantey "Haul
>Away Joe", and Canadian "Springhill Mine Disaster" (Folksinger's
>Choice Album, 1964).


No, I wouldn't be surprised. I've heard him do all of those.



>"Jennifer Jupiter" was on "A New Day" (1969).



I thought I owned all his recordings, but I obviously don't, since I
not only don't have, but don't knew that one.

Tony Cooper

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:09:10 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
I notice the listing for "A New Day" shows it was released on vinyl,
cassette, and reel-to-reel...three terms that my grandsons would
probably not understand.

I assume "cassette" includes 8-tracks because that's what I owned.
(Another term foreign to my grandsons)

"Jennifer Jupiter" was also covered by The Sandpipers, Joel Grey,
Kazmi with Rickies, and Watoo Watoo.

I associate The Sandpipers with "Guantanamera". I saw Joel Grey in
Chicago in a production of "How to Succeed in Business Without Really
Trying", but the other two groups are unfamiliar to me.

Evidently, Kazmi with Rickies is known for their recording of a "Jesus
Christ Super Star". Watoo Watoo is listed as a "French indiepop
band", whatever that is.

Peter T. Daniels

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On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:42:38 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:09:10 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:49:47 -0500, Tony Cooper
> ><tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:

> >>"Jennifer Jupiter" was on "A New Day" (1969).
> >I thought I owned all his recordings, but I obviously don't, since I
> >not only don't have, but don't knew that one.
>
> I notice the listing for "A New Day" shows it was released on vinyl,
> cassette, and reel-to-reel...three terms that my grandsons would
> probably not understand.

If they are at all attuned to contemporary music trends, then they will
know "vinyl." What they may not recognize is the archaic term "LP."

When a guest artist has a new album out, Colbert normally holds up the
vinyl version, not the CD version (if one has been released).

> I assume "cassette" includes 8-tracks because that's what I owned.
> (Another term foreign to my grandsons)

No, 8-tracks are called "8-tracks."

> "Jennifer Jupiter" was also covered by The Sandpipers, Joel Grey,
> Kazmi with Rickies, and Watoo Watoo.
>
> I associate The Sandpipers with "Guantanamera". I saw Joel Grey in
> Chicago in a production of "How to Succeed in Business Without Really
> Trying", but the other two groups are unfamiliar to me.

Joel Grey is rather better known for originating the role of Master of
Ceremonies in *Cabaret*, which he reprised in the 1972 film.

He utterly steals the show in whatever Broadway production he is involved
in. He is currently represented as the director of *Fiddler on the Roof
in Yiddish*, which has just moved from "downtown" to a Midtown Theater
District theater (though apparently not one classified as a "Broadway
house," presumably meaning it won't be considered in this year's Tony
Awards).

> Evidently, Kazmi with Rickies is known for their recording of a "Jesus
> Christ Super Star". Watoo Watoo is listed as a "French indiepop
> band", whatever that is.

How many Jesus Christ Super Stars are there? Is it really four words?

Tony Cooper

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:00:13 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:42:38 PM UTC-5, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:09:10 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:49:47 -0500, Tony Cooper
>> ><tonyco...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> >>"Jennifer Jupiter" was on "A New Day" (1969).
>> >I thought I owned all his recordings, but I obviously don't, since I
>> >not only don't have, but don't knew that one.
>>
>> I notice the listing for "A New Day" shows it was released on vinyl,
>> cassette, and reel-to-reel...three terms that my grandsons would
>> probably not understand.
>
>If they are at all attuned to contemporary music trends, then they will
>know "vinyl." What they may not recognize is the archaic term "LP."
>
>When a guest artist has a new album out, Colbert normally holds up the
>vinyl version, not the CD version (if one has been released).
>
>> I assume "cassette" includes 8-tracks because that's what I owned.
>> (Another term foreign to my grandsons)
>
>No, 8-tracks are called "8-tracks."

Why do you argue with things you know nothing about? The listing I
read said it was released on vinyl, cassette, and reel-to-reel. I
owned an 8-track of the album, so I know for a fact it was released on
8-track. Ergo, the word "cassette" must include 8-tracks in that
context.

You constantly whine about another poster here not posting anything of
consequence, but most of your responses are querulous contradictions
of no consequence to the discussion.

Peter T. Daniels

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Jan 30, 2019, 3:30:26 PM1/30/19
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Bullshit. The appropriate response would be to notify wherever you saw
that of their omission.

8-tracks had a very short lifetime. They were objects of hilarity even
when they could still be found installed in cars.

> You constantly whine about another poster here not posting anything of
> consequence, but most of your responses are querulous contradictions
> of no consequence to the discussion.

Most of my replies to you are corrections of your leaping to false
conclusions on the basis of limited to no evidence. Another example
today was your insistence that forgetting what you went into a room
for wasn't forgetting what you went into a room for.

You didn't even thank me for correcting your ignorance about the term
"vinyl."

bill van

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Jan 30, 2019, 3:45:40 PM1/30/19
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No, that was Jennifer Juniper.

bill

Tony Cooper

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Jan 30, 2019, 3:58:02 PM1/30/19
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Got me.

Quinn C

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Jan 30, 2019, 6:02:51 PM1/30/19
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* Mark Brader:

> Garrett Wollman:
>>> Never underestimate the desire of parents to give their child a
>>> "unique" name.
>
> Ken Blake:
>> Also very often true, but that doesn't change the fact that I have
>> ever seen anyone spell it Jeniffer.
>
> The IMDB thinks it knows of two actresses who go by the single name
> "Jeniffer", but they each have only one film credit and no biographical
> details, so I'm not sure how confident they are that they're two
> different people. The two movies in question were both made in India,
> but are in different languages.
>
> The IMDB also knows of a Yeniffer Behrens, a Venezuelan-born actress
> who also goes by Jeniffer Behrens.

The Net knows many Jeniffers, and many of them have Spanish-looking
family names.

--
... while there are people who are consecrated, chronic
assholes--like Donald Trump for example, or General Patton--
it's a condition that all of us are liable to.
-- Geoffrey Nunberg, 2012 interview

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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What about Jenůfa? Or is that an unrelated name, despite its appearance?

--
athel

Jenny Telia

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On 29/01/2019 19:29, jenniferb...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>


To avoid the problem, I foreshortened mine to 'Jenny'

Jennipheur Telia

Jennifer Zhou

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On Saturday, September 1, 2001 at 11:45:44 PM UTC-4, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:26:03 -0700, Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote:
> >Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
> I've never seen Jeniffer.
> Jennifer is common, but it is also sometimes spelt Jenifer, Jenefer and
> Guinevere.
> --
> Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/steve.htm
> E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
IT IS JENNIFER MY NAME IS JENNIFER BYE I AM SO MAD AT YOU GUYS

Sam Plusnet

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But did you exist on the first of September 2001?

--
Sam Plusnet

Lewis

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A friend of mine was in a long time relationship with a woman who had a
daughter named Jennifer, he and I both called her 'Niffer.

When I was in college, 10% of the people in the dorm were named
"Jennifer" (10% of all the people, not 105 of the women) but none of
them were 'Niffer.

--
Vitamins are a waste of money, you can eat like $200 worth and still feel hungry.

J. J. Lodder

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May I call you 'Jenever' instead?
Seems to suit your temperament,

Jan

Dingbat

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On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 4:26:03 PM UTC-7, Caps wrote:
> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?

Gwenhwyfar:-) Had a sister Gwenhwyfach. Alternate spellings given here:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwenhwyfach>


In modern spelling, <nn> and <ff> are what would keep the preceding vowels
relatively unchanged. In spelling pronunciation, that is.

Steve Hayes

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I have a cousin named Jennifer, but she's called Jenny.

But there are several different ways of spelling it, as I noted 20 years
ago.

--
Steve Hayes http://khanya.wordpress.com

Richard Heathfield

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On 22/02/2022 4:15 am, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:47:16 -0800, Jennifer Zhou wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, September 1, 2001 at 11:45:44 PM UTC-4, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:26:03 -0700, Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote:
>>>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>>> I've never seen Jeniffer.
>>> Jennifer is common, but it is also sometimes spelt Jenifer, Jenefer and
>>> Guinevere.
>>> --
>>> Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
>>> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/steve.htm E-mail - see web page,
>>> or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
>> IT IS JENNIFER MY NAME IS JENNIFER BYE I AM SO MAD AT YOU GUYS
>
> I have a cousin named Jennifer, but she's called Jenny.

And I would hazard a guess that she's not mad.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

Peter Moylan

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On 22/02/22 20:23, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 22/02/2022 4:15 am, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:47:16 -0800, Jennifer Zhou wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, September 1, 2001 at 11:45:44 PM UTC-4, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:26:03 -0700, Caps <Ca...@Lock.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is it Jennifer or Jeniffer?
>>>> I've never seen Jeniffer.
>>>> Jennifer is common, but it is also sometimes spelt Jenifer, Jenefer and
>>>> Guinevere.
>>>> --
>>>> Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/steve.htm E-mail - see web page,
>>>> or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
>>> IT IS JENNIFER MY NAME IS JENNIFER BYE I AM SO MAD AT YOU GUYS
>>
>> I have a cousin named Jennifer, but she's called Jenny.
>
> And I would hazard a guess that she's not mad.

I'm currently having an e-mail conversation with a Jenny whose official
name is Jan Ava.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org
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