The problem with post modernism thinking....
Wag
generation which knows little of sacrifice and believes all ideas
are equal and none is to be preferred over another because
someone might feel bad and excluded. "
"In his address to Congress Sept 20, President Bush said, 'We
are in a fight for our principles, and our first responsibility is
to live by them.' How can we live by them if the next generation
and the one following are not taught what they are? Do they
begin with a kind of "pluralism'' which says that nothing is always
right or always wrong and each person has to make up his or her
own mind about truth? Such a principle did not start or sustain
America through war and peace, prosperity and depressions."
The above are excerpts from a recent Cal Thomas column. The
entire column can be found below.
I hear ideologies and belief systems tossed around Usenet that,
quite frankly, stun me. "I'm okay, you're okay" seems to be the
underlying sentiment.
Why?
Is it because if you tell everyone else that they're "okay" with
whatever questionable course they pursue, then in return, they
won't question your own questionable course?
It's as if America started a house party back in the late 1700's,
and now the new guests decided they don't like the music. So,
instead of behaving like the minority they are, sitting around eating
the food and drinking the booze, they want to bring their own DJ
in as well.
It's a new year... here's to hoping that America rediscovers what
made her the great country she is. We have shown time and time
again that we know what to get rid of- slavery, women's inequality,
religious persecution, etc., I can only sit here and pray to my God
that we remember what to keep.
Wag
Cal Thomas
Old Lessons for a New Year
WHAT most delights about a New Year is its freshness. Old things are passed away.
Except for Sept. 11. That event and its consequences for the individuals who died and
the relatives who suffer and the nation that bleeds will remain with us for a long
time.
A New Year, especially in light of Sept. 11, offers opportunities to consider old
things that became old because they were deemed right and useful and even true. Some
will remember truth. It's what most everyone once agreed existed and could be found if
pursued.
Rudy Giuliani, the now former, but in our hearts always, Mayor of New York City,
alluded to that notion in his farewell address in a church adjacent to Ground Zero
last Thursday (Dec. 27). His speech should be mandatory reading in every high school
in America for years to come. In it, Giuliani spoke of things that once were
considered beyond debate before we arrived at our post -modern, relativistic, feelings
before facts New Age.
Giuliani said ideas matter -- ideas that are true, not because he thinks so but
because they have proven themselves over time. And he spoke of ideas that have failed,
yet continue to have significant numbers of adherents because the people who hold them
care more about maintaining power over others than they do about liberty and
independence.
Giuliani related how his Italian grandfather had just $20 in his pocket when he left
America to return to Italy to pick up his sister. How did he and his sister survive?
They survived, said Giuliani, "because they kept thinking about this idea in their
head, this ideal of America, America, America.'' He spoke of their hard work to reach
this ideal and how we are (or used to be) tied together by our belief in political
democracy, religious freedom, capitalism, a free economy and respect for the rule of
law.
These ideas and ideals are being challenged today by a new generation which knows
little of sacrifice and believes all ideas are equal and none is to be preferred over
another because someone might feel bad and excluded.
Giuliani said if he had taken the advice of the New York Times editorial board and
other critics, New York City would be bankrupt. Instead, the city, which had a $2.3
billion deficit in 1993, now has a surplus of $1 billion and a bright financial
future. Crime dropped significantly because Giuliani rejected the advice of his
critics and re-invented policing. It worked, while other cities that applied different
techniques saw crime increase. Same with new construction, which many opposed, but
which has helped renew New York City, expanding its tax base, reducing unemployment
and contributing to the city's financial strength. Welfare and homelessness? There
were far fewer homeless and welfare recipients under Giuliani's leadership.
"These are ideas,'' said Giuliani, "ideas that replaced bad ideas.'' Yes, some ideas
are bad, a notion that requires a standard for objective truth, without which they
have no meaning. People are hurt, not helped, when they are on welfare. People should
work and take care of themselves, not depend on government, which can only help them
exist, not find the meaning of life or meaningful work.
In fact, "the kindest, most generous and most loving way to take care of someone is to
respect their independence and give them the ability to take care of themselves'' said
Giuliani.
In his address to Congress Sept 20, President Bush said, "We are in a fight for our
principles, and our first responsibility is to live by them.''
How can we live by them if the next generation and the one following are not taught
what they are? Do they begin with a kind of "pluralism'' which says that nothing is
always right or always wrong and each person has to make up his or her own mind about
truth? Such a principle did not start or sustain America through war and peace,
prosperity and depressions.
We must return to debating ideas, their history and their worth. The ones that work
should be implemented and embraced. The ones that don't work must be discarded.
A New Year, with its special challenges following Sept. 11, offers a rare opportunity
for us to abandon our post modernism and re-embrace...shall we call it
"pre-modernism,'' when everything old can seem new again?
Scott
Wag <w...@nada.com> wrote in message
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> "These ideas and ideals are being challenged today by a new
> generation which knows little of sacrifice and believes all ideas
> are equal and none is to be preferred over another because
> someone might feel bad and excluded. "
Thanks man.
appreciated
Scott
good read
Wag
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>
>
> Thanks man.
>
> appreciated
> Scott
> good read
Hey, the truth's the truth, and good points are good points, whether
they be from Cal Thomas, Walt Williams, Georgie Geyer, Molly Ivins,
Anna Quinlan, or even Roger Ebert! lol
Good to see you back where you belong, too.
HNY and all the best-
Wag
Brainspiller
modernist'??
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong...but doesn't that mean the future??
adam - only half joking
Cybernetic Tiger
> generation which knows little of sacrifice and believes all ideas
> are equal and none is to be preferred over another because
> someone might feel bad and excluded. "
>
>
That was dynamite! I love it! Excellent post.
tiger.
Wag
"Brainspiller" <ad...@hewitt17.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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I used it as meaning "this is where we ended up after the modernism
thinking movement had enough time to be reviewed".
HTH
Wag
Wag
"Cybernetic Tiger" <sdro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Apparently too excellent...
replied
Wag
...as he noticed the definite lack of responses. ;-)
Sharon
Sorry, I didnt even read it. If it has more than ten lines and it isnt
written by someone I know, it gets marked as read ASAP.
sharon
Brainspiller
Yes, but isn't post modernism a term in itself? In like art, or decorating,
or architecture or something? I've just never understood what it means...
:-)
Wag
"Sharon" <safesou...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Hey, *I* wrote the middle part, I just tucked the whole article at the bottom
so as not to annoy those with short attention spans. ;-)
Wag
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> > That was dynamite! I love it! Excellent post.
>> >
>> > tiger.
>>
>> Apparently too excellent...
>>
>> replied
>> Wag
>> ...as he noticed the definite lack of responses. ;-)
>
>Sorry, I didnt even read it. If it has more than ten lines and it isnt
>written by someone I know, it gets marked as read ASAP.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
Wojo
Wojo
>> I used it as meaning "this is where we ended up after the modernism
>> thinking movement had enough time to be reviewed".
>>
>> HTH
>> Wag
>
>Yes, but isn't post modernism a term in itself? In like art, or decorating,
>or architecture or something? I've just never understood what it means...
Well, break it down.
Post = after
Modern = present.
Post modern = futuristic
Wojo
Wag
Post modernism, as in thinking, defines the whole "I'm okay, you're okay"
school of thought. Now that it's been around long enough to have it's
results studied, we're seeing where that school of thought falls short.
Woefully short. I think, but check me on it- that the "modern" period
ran from the late fifties to where it's at now... petering out, just as is
post modernism thinking.
Clear as mud?
;-)'d
Wag
Wag
"Wojo" <ke...@isoc.net> wrote in message
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Actually, I think that's how I used it, but what BS is talking about is
Andy Warhol and I.M. Pei, the architect and sculptor, whose works
pretty much defined the "modern" era...
In a nutshell, the thinking is that if the art looks like something any
old Joe off the street could create, it's probably "modern art". ;-)
Wag
Brainspiller
> > > > Before I say anything else...could someone please explain the phrase
> > 'post
> > > > modernist'??
> > > > I mean, correct me if I'm wrong...but doesn't that mean the future??
> > > >
> > > > adam - only half joking
> > >
> > > I used it as meaning "this is where we ended up after the modernism
> > > thinking movement had enough time to be reviewed".
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > Wag
> >
> > Yes, but isn't post modernism a term in itself? In like art, or
decorating,
> > or architecture or something? I've just never understood what it
means...
> > :-)
>
> Post modernism, as in thinking, defines the whole "I'm okay, you're okay"
> school of thought. Now that it's been around long enough to have it's
> results studied, we're seeing where that school of thought falls short.
> Woefully short. I think, but check me on it- that the "modern" period
> ran from the late fifties to where it's at now... petering out, just as is
> post modernism thinking.
>
> Clear as mud?
>
> ;-)'d
> Wag
Doubtless :-)
I think what got me you explained in your last sentence. That 'modern' ran
from the 50's or whatever.
Brainspiller
Yeah, and your mum...
:-)
Sharon
Ah, sorry looked like political/religious/annoying drivel to me :)
sharon
Sharon
Heh heh heh heh, why?
sharon
Ken Woyach
spoke:
> > >written by someone I know, it gets marked as read ASAP.
> >
> > GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>
> Heh heh heh heh, why?
Because, my immune system can't handle you.
Sharon
> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Sharon thusly
> spoke:
> > > >Sorry, I didnt even read it. If it has more than ten lines and it isnt
> > > >written by someone I know, it gets marked as read ASAP.
> > >
> > > GET OUT OF MY HEAD
> >
> > Heh heh heh heh, why?
>
> Because, my immune system can't handle you.
Too toxic for you?
sharon
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>Beware Ken Woyach, my dear, when the moon is fat....
>> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Sharon thusly
>> spoke:
>> > > >Sorry, I didnt even read it. If it has more than ten lines and it isnt
>> > > >written by someone I know, it gets marked as read ASAP.
>> > >
>> > > GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>> >
>> > Heh heh heh heh, why?
>>
>> Because, my immune system can't handle you.
>
>Too toxic for you?
Yeah...like European beer...
Wojo
Sharon
> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Sharon
> thusly spoke:
>
> >Beware Ken Woyach, my dear, when the moon is fat....
> >> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Sharon thusly
> >> spoke:
> >> > > >Sorry, I didnt even read it. If it has more than ten lines and it isnt
> >> > > >written by someone I know, it gets marked as read ASAP.
> >> > >
> >> > > GET OUT OF MY HEAD
> >> >
> >> > Heh heh heh heh, why?
> >>
> >> Because, my immune system can't handle you.
> >
> >Too toxic for you?
>
> Yeah...like European beer...
Pansy boy. Its not my fault if you have a weak stomach ;)
sharon
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>> >> >
>> >> > Heh heh heh heh, why?
>> >>
>> >> Because, my immune system can't handle you.
>> >
>> >Too toxic for you?
>>
>> Yeah...like European beer...
>
>Pansy boy. Its not my fault if you have a weak stomach ;)
You think I do?
Well...I guess we have three months left before you're forced to test
your theory, eh? ;)
Wojo
Sharon
Yeah, we do :)
sharon
willing and able
Wojo
Sharon
> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Sharon
> thusly spoke:
>
> >Beware Wojo, my dear, when the moon is fat....
> >> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Sharon
> >> thusly spoke:
> >>
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > GET OUT OF MY HEAD
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Heh heh heh heh, why?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Because, my immune system can't handle you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Too toxic for you?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yeah...like European beer...
> >> >
> >> >Pansy boy. Its not my fault if you have a weak stomach ;)
> >>
> >> You think I do?
> >>
> >> Well...I guess we have three months left before you're forced to test
> >> your theory, eh? ;)
> >
> >Yeah, we do :)
> >
> >sharon
> >willing and able
>
> And nervous...don't forget nervous. ;)
Heh, the day I'm nervous of you, is the day you'll out drink me ;)
sharon
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> >> Well...I guess we have three months left before you're forced to test
>> >> your theory, eh? ;)
>> >
>> >Yeah, we do :)
>> >
>> >sharon
>> >willing and able
>>
>> And nervous...don't forget nervous. ;)
>
>Heh, the day I'm nervous of you, is the day you'll out drink me ;)
Hehehe (Hi Wag!)
I've actually made a decision to cut *way* back on the drinking, but
on special occasions, such as our meeting... ;)
Wojo
InviziCat
>on special occasions, such as our meeting... ;)
>
>Wojo
Did Hell freeze over and nobody told me?
And does this mean that you (and maybe Kes) are in on the April thing??? I
really have got to make my reservations!
cat
wants to go but can she afford it?
Sharon
I'm sure your liver thanks you for it.
sharon
Brainspiller
Nah, it needs alcohol, it's on strike :-)
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>>I've actually made a decision to cut *way* back on the drinking, but
>>on special occasions, such as our meeting... ;)
>>
>>Wojo
>
>Did Hell freeze over and nobody told me?
Yeah....brrrr...
(Not insinuating that I'm in hell or anything...)
>
>And does this mean that you (and maybe Kes) are in on the April thing??? I
>really have got to make my reservations!
Oh, yes...we're definitely planning to be there...that would be what
all the blather between Sharon and I about who can drink more is all
about. ;)
>
>cat
>wants to go but can she afford it?
If you reserve your tickets now, it shouldn't be that much...
Wojo
Wojo
Funny...I was just having a long discussion with my liver, and it
really *does* thank me. But, alas, the rest of me wants my BEER!
Wojo
A man who's still on his first beer of the night, and will prolly be
in bed before a third.
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>Not in the volume he consumes it. I know its only pissy but still, a
>prolonged exposure to even 4% can lead to damage.....
>
>The recommended limit of alcohol is for men is three to four units a day.
>
>1 unit = 1/2 pint (of 3% beer)
>1 pint = 560ml
>500ml = 1 bottle/can
>
>Which means that the recommended limit of alcohol for men is 1 to 2
>cans/bottles a day.
Oh, well..yeah...that's....ummm...that's my average! Yeah, my
AVERGAGE! ;)
Wojo
InviziCat
>
>Wojo
>
I just found the deal today and can buy my ticket on the 18...however...I don't
know the destination city in Florida!!!!!! Someone wanna fill me in? Thanks.
And any other details that are settled...as nobody has really told me anything
at all as of yet :-(
~cat~
"We got the right to know, which means
We got the right to misunderstand
And slant the plan to help our hand
They call it a culture, but it sucks you in like quicksand."
- Todd Rundgren/Worldwide Epiphany
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>>If you reserve your tickets now, it shouldn't be that much...
>>
>>Wojo
>>
>
>I just found the deal today and can buy my ticket on the 18...however...I don't
>know the destination city in Florida!!!!!! Someone wanna fill me in? Thanks.
>And any other details that are settled...as nobody has really told me anything
>at all as of yet :-(
Well, Janet lives in Coral Springs...not sure where the nearest
Airport is. Last I knew the date was supposed to be the weekend of
April 12th, haven't heard anything else.
Wojo
Danicka
She said that Ft. Lauderdale is closer, but Miami isn't much further.
Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
Danicka
T
What are you doing, sleeping through six days a week?
T
Janet
InviziCat wrote
>
> I just found the deal today and can buy my ticket on the 18...however...I
don't
> know the destination city in Florida!!!!!! Someone wanna fill me in?
Thanks.
> And any other details that are settled...as nobody has really told me
anything
> at all as of yet :-(
Well, Ft Lauderdale is the most convenient airport but Miami is okay, too.
We're shooting for the second week in April. So, April 6th on is fine by me.
Other than that, there aren't any *settled* details. Do you need a place to
stay?
Janet
Janet
Sharon wrote
> >
> > She said that Ft. Lauderdale is closer, but Miami isn't much further.
> > Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
>
> it'll probably be Miami for me as the flights are cheaper. hehe)
> The second week in April is what I'm aiming for too, sort of 5-14th type
> thingy.
Miami is fine... just a bit further away. But, as you said, cheaper for you
: )
As for dates, I really don't have any restrictions, just be sure you all let
me know when you're coming : )
Janet
InviziCat
>> Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
>
>I agree with both parts of this, I was told Ft Lauderdale too (although
>it'll probably be Miami for me as the flights are cheaper. hehe)
>The second week in April is what I'm aiming for too, sort of 5-14th type
>thingy.
>
Thanks so much, everyone. Ft. Lauderdale is just slightly less expensive
airfair for me. Just keep me posted on details as they arise. I'm really
going to give this a shot.
~cat~
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them
alone in order to do it."
- Unknown
InviziCat
>We're shooting for the second week in April. So, April 6th on is fine by me.
>Other than that, there aren't any *settled* details. Do you need a place to
>stay?
>
>Janet
Unless you want me to stay with my parents in Delray Beach, and believe you me
that's not my idea of fun. But I don't want to impose on you...I'll do
whatever the rest of the gang is doing. I have some irons in the fire as far
as financing, etc. I might take a second week and visit the East Coast, see
some friends old and new, visit my old home town areas, etc. I haven't had a
vacation is quite awhile and by myself? HA! (If you don't count last summer,
lol.)
cat
really excited
LineNoise
I'm still hoping to do this, but finances and scheduling are completely up
in the air for me at the moment, so I won't know for a while yet.
>Janet
Brian
--
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To believe in this livin' / Is just a hard way to go
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Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> Well, Janet lives in Coral Springs...not sure where the nearest
>> Airport is. Last I knew the date was supposed to be the weekend of
>> April 12th, haven't heard anything else.
>>
>> Wojo
>
>She said that Ft. Lauderdale is closer, but Miami isn't much further.
>Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
Ar...IIRC, Miami isn't but 45 minutes South of Ft. Lauderdale.
Wojo
Wojo
spoke:
>> >Which means that the recommended limit of alcohol for men is 1 to 2
>> >cans/bottles a day.
>>
>> Oh, well..yeah...that's....ummm...that's my average! Yeah, my
>> AVERGAGE! ;)
>>
>> Wojo
>
>What are you doing, sleeping through six days a week?
LOL!
How ironic.
Well...I cut *way* back on beer intake a couple days ago, and,
ironically I've hardly been sleeping at all! I imagine there's a
correlation, but I'm not sure what it is. Last night I intentionally
stayed up until 4 am so that I might be so damned tired (after
sleeping only a couple hours the previous night) that I'd sleep
better. Still didn't sleep particularly *well*, but a bit better,
anyway. Maybe it'll cure itself with time alone. :)
Wojo
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> She said that Ft. Lauderdale is closer, but Miami isn't much further.
>> Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
>
>I agree with both parts of this, I was told Ft Lauderdale too (although
>it'll probably be Miami for me as the flights are cheaper. hehe)
>The second week in April is what I'm aiming for too, sort of 5-14th type
>thingy.
Oh, leaving the second week? I thought you were starting on the
second week (like the 12th). Okay. Makes no difference to me, so
long as we get it nailed down over the next two months or so...
Wojo
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> >Which means that the recommended limit of alcohol for men is 1 to 2
>> >cans/bottles a day.
>>
>> Oh, well..yeah...that's....ummm...that's my average! Yeah, my
>> AVERGAGE! ;)
>
>Lying bastid :)
Would I do that?
Oh! I thought you said per HOUR!
>
>oh well, its your liver.. (as well as several other internal organs)
Hey...I *said* I was cutting back, didn't I? Where's the "good for
you, pat pat" I deserve? ;)
Wojo
Ernest Fairchild
>
> LOL!
>
> How ironic.
>
> Well...I cut *way* back on beer intake a couple days ago, and,
> ironically I've hardly been sleeping at all! I imagine there's a
> correlation, but I'm not sure what it is. Last night I intentionally
> stayed up until 4 am so that I might be so damned tired (after
> sleeping only a couple hours the previous night) that I'd sleep
> better. Still didn't sleep particularly *well*, but a bit better,
> anyway. Maybe it'll cure itself with time alone. :)
It always takes me 2 or 3 days to find restful sleep during a "dry" period
;-). Beer is wonderful sleeping medicine.
Have a great day!
Ernest
_____________________
"I'd rather be programming."
Visit my website at http://www.public.asu.edu/~ernestf
Wojo
Fairchild thusly spoke:
>"Wojo" <ke...@isoc.net> wrote in message
>news:g22p3u0k9l67o0r72...@4ax.com...
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> How ironic.
>>
>> Well...I cut *way* back on beer intake a couple days ago, and,
>> ironically I've hardly been sleeping at all! I imagine there's a
>> correlation, but I'm not sure what it is. Last night I intentionally
>> stayed up until 4 am so that I might be so damned tired (after
>> sleeping only a couple hours the previous night) that I'd sleep
>> better. Still didn't sleep particularly *well*, but a bit better,
>> anyway. Maybe it'll cure itself with time alone. :)
>
>It always takes me 2 or 3 days to find restful sleep during a "dry" period
>;-). Beer is wonderful sleeping medicine.
Yeah? Well...I've been drinking pretty heavily since I lost a job
over a year ago, and this is the first "dry" period I've really had.
;)
I thought that might be the case, though.
Wojo
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>Beware Wojo, my dear, when the moon is fat....
>Ah now heres where I'm confused, I was just told the second week of
>April, which to me means the 7th to the 14th. Maybe I'm wrong... hmmm...
I don't know...I'm mostly going off what I read here...it doesn't
matter to me which it is...
Wojo
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> >Ah now heres where I'm confused, I was just told the second week of
>> >April, which to me means the 7th to the 14th. Maybe I'm wrong... hmmm...
>>
>> I don't know...I'm mostly going off what I read here...it doesn't
>> matter to me which it is...
>
>Yes it will, its when Dara told me she would aim for being there. I would
>be royally pissed to go all that way only to find she left the day before
>or was arriving the day after I had to leave... I'm sure you would be
>too.
>
>Of course, if it cant be done then I would just be happy to see Janet ;)
I'm just saying...when you guys figure out WHEN it will be, let me
know. :)
Wojo
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> >Of course, if it cant be done then I would just be happy to see Janet ;)
>>
>> I'm just saying...when you guys figure out WHEN it will be, let me
>> know. :)
>
>Eh, you all over, lazy bastid not prepeared to make any effort for what
>he wants....
What effort is there to make? Just the date, that's all, and given
you're flying from over the pond, it seems to me, that your journey
should take precedence over mine, eh?
>
>Okay, I'll make sure your informed :)
Good!
Janet
Wojo wrote
> >
> >She said that Ft. Lauderdale is closer, but Miami isn't much further.
> >Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
>
> Ar...IIRC, Miami isn't but 45 minutes South of Ft. Lauderdale.
>
And how far am I from Ft Lauderdale, mister know-it-all?
Janet
prefers Ft Lauderdale
Wojo
thusly spoke:
At a guess? 15-20 miles...though I *could* look it up!
But I've *been* to Ft. Lauderdale *and* Miami, so I spoke from
experience! :)
Wojo
Janet
LineNoise
>
> I'm still hoping to do this, but finances and scheduling are completely up
> in the air for me at the moment, so I won't know for a while yet.
Woohoo!
Just keep me updated!
Janet
Janet
"Sharon wrote
>
> Ah now heres where I'm confused, I was just told the second week of
> April, which to me means the 7th to the 14th. Maybe I'm wrong... hmmm...
No, you're not.
Janet
Janet
Sharon wrote
> Beware Wojo, my dear, when the moon is fat....
> > matter to me which it is...
>
> be royally pissed to go all that way only to find she left the day before
> or was arriving the day after I had to leave... I'm sure you would be
> too.
>
*sigh*
I'm an afterthought.
Janet
Janet
Wojo wrote
As someone that's driven through Chicago, I thought you would know the
difference between miles and minutes <g>
IAC, for the record, Ft. Lauderdale is much preferred.
(Except in Sharon's case, it could save her LOTS of money)
Janet
if anyone's interested, that is.
Janet
InviziCat wrote
I think we can manage that.
Woohoo!
janet
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>
>Wojo wrote
>> Taking full advantage of the rights inherent to each of us, Janet
>> thusly spoke:
>> >Wojo wrote
>> >> >
>> >> >She said that Ft. Lauderdale is closer, but Miami isn't much further.
>> >> >Second week in April is as close as I we have as a date so far.
>> >>
>> >> Ar...IIRC, Miami isn't but 45 minutes South of Ft. Lauderdale.
>> >>
>> >
>> >And how far am I from Ft Lauderdale, mister know-it-all?
>>
>> At a guess? 15-20 miles...though I *could* look it up!
>>
>> But I've *been* to Ft. Lauderdale *and* Miami, so I spoke from
>> experience! :)
>
>As someone that's driven through Chicago, I thought you would know the
>difference between miles and minutes <g>
I do. I was remembering about how long it took to get to the airport
from our motel in Ft. Lauderdale...was I remembering wrong, or was
traffic maybe particularly light that day?
InviziCat
>
>Woohoo!
>
>janet
Woo-double-hoo!
~cat~
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We want everyone
And you want her, and she wants you
No one, no one, no one ever is to blame."
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Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> As someone that's driven through Chicago, I thought you would know the
>> difference between miles and minutes <g>
>>
>> IAC, for the record, Ft. Lauderdale is much preferred.
>> (Except in Sharon's case, it could save her LOTS of money)
>
>It'll save me close to $150 to fly into Miami. Is ft Lauderdale a smaller
>airport or is it just because it gets less tourism?
Probably you would have a layover in Miami if you flew to Ft.
Lauderdale, and then switch to a smaller plane. That costs more, thus
the increased ticket price...
...just a guess.
Wojo
Wojo
thusly spoke:
>> >It'll save me close to $150 to fly into Miami. Is ft Lauderdale a smaller
>> >airport or is it just because it gets less tourism?
>>
>> Probably you would have a layover in Miami if you flew to Ft.
>> Lauderdale, and then switch to a smaller plane. That costs more, thus
>> the increased ticket price...
>>
>> ...just a guess.
>
>Nope, the only change is at either somewhere in NY or somewhere else
>(that I cant quite remember but isnt FL)
You mean if you went to Ft. Lauderdale instead of Miami? I'm just
saying it's probably cheaper to Miami because there are probably LESS
layovers on the way there than there are on the way to Ft. Lauderdale.
More importantly, I'm just saying that because I felt like saying
*something* to keep posting at a reasonable level! ;)
Wojo