I don't think her e-mail was hacked actually. She was very confused. and
she's GONE AT FUCKING LAST!!!!!! You can FUCK OFF TOO DEREK YOU ARE NOT A
TEENAGER AND YOU PROBABLY AREN'T IN LONDON.
yes.... you are a youth worker?
maybe we should tell your boss that his 'youth worker' has been looking at
naughty things (we've been doing our research into your prostitition games).
Sure, look in, see if we care, just leave us alone.. we want to talk amongst
ourselves, the uk.teens.london - ok, maybe you are UK.LONDON, but no TEENS,
see?
how old are you? 30, 40, 50?
sure, you've been expressing your view too much, and nobody wants to read it
no more...
now, let's get back on with what we normally do, without the Russians, or
the Old Folks.
>Well, Jon, whether mail was, or wasn't hacked, only the person concerned
>would know, plus the hacker. So that issue can only be an opinion.
>As for my right to be here in this group, there is no law about youth
>workiers, or volunters, not looking into a youth club.
>And I wuld remind you, that I was simply expressing a view, that
>a young poster was, been insulted, for no good reason.
>I still fell same, and still feel that some of you could have
>been more frienly to Maria.
>Derek
Oh Maria Pedophiles are just normal people too, but only with special
needs. Derek needs you, he needs your young unPrOked body. He wants
you because he wants to hump young kiddies. Bloody horny pedos.
Argh! U can't not cross reference it with something in the real world can
you!
Look we would probably have been nice to Maria, but the way she came into
the group was not to the groups liking, and so she was flamed, end of story.
DYS, DYS, DYS, DYS!!!!!!!!!!
Of course you wont understand what that means....and I cant be bothered to
explain.
but you post upsidedown..
and how will BT help??
plus, we have seen your posts about prostitues.
> l...@spammers.com (Kenny 8oy) writes:
> > On 29 Mar 2000 21:39:38 GMT, Derek Hornby <10060...@CompuServe.COM>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Well, Jon, whether mail was, or wasn't hacked, only the person
concerned
> > >would know, plus the hacker. So that issue can only be an opinion.
> > >As for my right to be here in this group, there is no law about youth
> > >workiers, or volunters, not looking into a youth club.
> > >And I wuld remind you, that I was simply expressing a view, that
> > >a young poster was, been insulted, for no good reason.
> > >I still fell same, and still feel that some of you could have
> > >been more frienly to Maria.
> > >Derek
> >
> >
Your previous posting about posting to the newsgroup was very threatening
and I feel you are contradicting yourself about being kind to people. I
have 'contacts' in BT but honestly it doesn't help!
I want to know how BT could help you with your claim since it does nothing
about offensive Spammers or anyone who subscribes to kinky sex newsgroups.
:o)
I agree there....
True BT does own the backbone of most UK ISPs, on the BTNET network....
And that they liscence IP ranges to providers such as freeserve, however if
someone was causing offence, it would have nothing to do with BT, it would
be freeserves problem, only they have the records of which user was using
which IP address at the given time that it was allocated and used. Even
BTinternet has nothing to do with BT the telecommunications provider, infact
BTinternet was setup as a seperate company, who are infact based in Scotland
and are liscenced by BT.
Secondly contacting BT would most probably result in getting nowhere, BT are
the cuss. Also if u tried to send anything to someone at BT, they would
give you no help but tell you to send it to the right department, ie abuse.
Their network is shite, and their tech people are useless.....
Maybe one day we will see an end to their monopoly *sigh*.
Actually, the ISPs (notice the S inbetween the I and the P) are in
competition, they don't really help each other out much. Sure, they contact
each other, but still, there isn't much that they will do.. anyway, we've
got more dirt on you that you have on us:
So, Derek, if it wasn't you who posted about prostituion, who was it?
Whoever it was used your name, and your account. Is it a relative of yours -
a son maybe, a brother?
Look, YOU ARE NOT A TEENAGER GET OUT OF OUR NEWSGROUP! IF YOU DON'T WE WILL
REPORT YOU TO ABUSE - WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE NOT A TEENAGER - WE HAVE
EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE POSTED IN PROSTITUTION NEWSGROUPS - THIS WOULD LOOK
EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS, AND WE WILL WRITE TO ABUSE. OK? Sorry to shout dudes,
but I'm having *SO* much fun!
Here is some other Derek related material dug up by my friend:
http://www.svopa.freeserve.co.uk/
why does he always changes the city where he lives? he told me he lived in
liverpool
>
>
Mari(o/a), for your OWN SAFETY, DON'T SPEAK TO DEREK. I think he is
DANGEROUS, he is involved with prostitution (as the evidence shows) and he
is 30ish and hanging around in a TEENAGE NG - which is EXTREMELY DODGY, he
is trying to take advantage of you. Don't let him.
BT are nothing to do with it. If someone calls you a tart down the phone
would you go and sue BT? No you wouldn't, in fact it would be a matter for
the person involved. BT are simply the carriers of the message, now although
in that case that involved Demon a while back they were actually sued, it is
now the case that individuals are being sued, ala the Buckley case, a
certain Chris Buckley is currently being sued by the person he slandered,
not by BT.
HTH
*sigh*
also
I LOL at you so hard.
You can't in your previous post accuse Mr Wingrove of slander, and then use
this defence for your actions.
Also Oftel (the TELEPHONE regulator) have nothing whatsoever to do with
anything like you have suggested.
As an aside, You are not a London Teenager, this group is for London
Teenagers why are you still posting here?
And Kat and prolly Damo, remember that JJ who was here who was going to sue
us all, funny how that never happend either.
*sigh*
Why do the adults come to this teenage newsgroup? An independent person,
could infer that is was in fact becuase they wanted to try and get with a
teenager, possibly someone underage, that would make them a pedo wouldn't
it? Mr Hornby, I'm going to ask you now, is that the case? I'm not saying
you are, I'm asking.
--
Sceptic
--
"I'm so boring, my clothes wanna keep someone else warm, someone cooler.
Tax on cigarettes treats my cancer
These things elevate me above animals"
-Mansun: Being A Girl
Actually, I don't remember her saying anything of the sort.
> "BennyX"
<benSPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMisBADDDDDDDD@spamnospambadspam
smith126.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > "Derek Hornby" <10060...@CompuServe.COM> wrote in message
Where did this hacking Mario thing come from?
I hadn't heard about anyone hacking her until you mentioned it.
I think Maria has had a mix up, I noticed from some of her other posts that
she was looking to find a hacker to help her find her lost boyfriend.
And Derek you keep avoiding the question of how old you are....
Every time it is asked you change the subject......
You are way too mysterious.
Don't think so. Ask Nick.
WHY ARE YOU HERE? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? WHY WHY WHY WHY
WHY WHY WHY? WHY WHY WHY WHY? WHY DO YOU POST TO PROSSI GROUPS? WHY DO YOU
TELL MARIO YOU ARE FROM LIVERPOOL? ARE YOU TRYING MEET HER? WILL I EVER GET
MY CAPS LOCK KEY BACK? IT LOOKS LIKE MARIO IS STAYING SO I GUESS ME AND KAT
WILL HAVE TO UN KILL FILE HER YOU'D BETTER INTRODUCE YOURSELF MARIO
Uhm, possibly, but again, trialing anyone over an issue like this is
extremly dodgy.
>I've saved your post, and will pass it to my contact within BT..
>you, need to be aware, that it's an offense to slanderous comments
>inthe way you are doing. And if a joke, it's invery bad taste.
Oh is that why I cant use freeserve as my news server now ? U git u
wasted 15 mins of my time signing up for a new one. And btw its an
offence to shag prositutes Derek......
If u don`t like the humour, then fuck off to alt.perverts or
something.
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>Oh Maria Pedophiles are just normal people too, but only with special
>needs. Derek needs you, he needs your young unPrOked body. He wants
>you because he wants to hump young kiddies. Bloody horny pedos.
Hehe I guess using the number 8 as a B in Kenny 8oy didn`t work there
Kenny.
>
>Actually, the ISPs (notice the S inbetween the I and the P) are in
>competition, they don't really help each other out much. Sure, they contact
>each other, but still, there isn't much that they will do.. anyway, we've
>got more dirt on you that you have on us:
I think hes actually got my freeserve account frozen, which is a pain
coz I have to double click the icon next to freeserve now. Is this
dirt actually him ?
>So, Derek, if it wasn't you who posted about prostituion, who was it?
>Whoever it was used your name, and your account. Is it a relative of yours -
>a son maybe, a brother?
Nah probably his mother and daughters. Who knows what pimps hang
around in the prossys newsgroup.
>Look, YOU ARE NOT A TEENAGER GET OUT OF OUR NEWSGROUP! IF YOU DON'T WE WILL
>REPORT YOU TO ABUSE - WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE NOT A TEENAGER - WE HAVE
>EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE POSTED IN PROSTITUTION NEWSGROUPS - THIS WOULD LOOK
>EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS, AND WE WILL WRITE TO ABUSE. OK? Sorry to shout dudes,
>but I'm having *SO* much fun!
LOL ! Flipping horny pedos
>Here is some other Derek related material dug up by my friend:
>
>http://www.svopa.freeserve.co.uk/
>
>http://www.zohrab.org/wov94.html
>
>http://www.obs.org.uk/Bulletins/Bullsum99d.htm
>And Derek you keep avoiding the question of how old you are....
>Every time it is asked you change the subject......
>You are way too mysterious.
Hes not mysterious, hes a flipping pervert interested in 13 year old
girls.
Well I think the dirt dug up here shows quite clearly that Derek Hornby is
definatly not a teenager....Infact he must be way into his thirties, maybe
even 40.
<snip>
> May I remind you Mr Hornby, or even enlighten you that BennyX has a lot
more
> contacts in the legal business than you do so I doubt very much that any
> prosecution can take place, since that the law is still very hazy when it
> comes to the Internet. That is the point of FAQ's to allow people to know
> what is and what isn't respected in a newsgroup. If you care to look at
our
> FAQ you will find that you contravene the charter by being too old and not
> from London so any opinion you have shall be noted, and then chucked in
the
> bin.
Yes a court case is all a bit too much really....
I mean if you insulted someone on the street, the police would just ask you
to leave.....
Yet on the internet if someone is insulted, people want to take up a whole
court case about it..........its just a ludicrous waste of time and money if
you ask me...
Or is that just my opinion? Cause I personally know that I wouldn't care
what somebody called me on the internet, because (a) I dont care and (b)
they didnt say it to my face.
The thing above is equivalent to the whole internet 'do you know who I am'
thing. It's fucking ludicrous, the number of times I've ben threatened with
slander, oh well, not happened yet :)
Does anyone want to point out his major spelling mistake that infact changes
the position of the text he just posted?
yup thats the thing with the net....
Its worldwide, thereby its not the case of one law firm or police force, but
the entire world...
Plus essentially everyone is an equal on the internet, aside from the speed
of their connection, I suppose you could call it communist like...
And now matter how important people make themselves out to be, they are no
more important than anyone else..
Ie - If you were the President of the United states, you would have no more
online authority than a 12 yr old kid on daddys home computer.
you sound like an ok person. wanna help us get rid of Mr. Hornby? :-)
maybe you mean "does anyone want to pointion out his major spelling mistake"
:-)
I got suspended from school once for sending an 'offensive and threatening'
message..
it's amazing what lengths people go to...
Shame for Mr. Hornby that I don't use my real name... muhahahaha...
? Stop talking out your arse
That's it, you are still posting here, and you are still going against the
FAQ, time for a TOSing methinks.
Oh ffs. A settlement out of court does not infer that you'd win a case,
becuase I can tell you right now, you wouldn't. It's as simple as that,
firstly you'd have to prove that the person you are trying to sue actaully
posted the messages, becuase if you tried to sue me I'd take your attitude,
of saying that I didn't post it. Once again your stupidity is proved, and
out of court settlement does not equal any finding of fact.
What's your point? You have offered no tangible proof that you didn't post
to that group, and in fact that's absolute rubbish isn't? I put it to you
that you in fact posted those messages, and you are lying to cover your
tracks.
i don't unkillfile people, if she says anythin remotely interesting, quote
properly then i'll see it
>
>
Heheh, I mentioned him before, he was really odd, and the scary thing is I
think I know him from work, but he doesn't know me is me :)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE find out the tinniest little sliver of information
about a person before you make slanderous comments about them.
IIRC Kenny is in fact of a different ethnic , he is of Chinese origin.
That rules out the racism part of your message, as he talks to us as equals
and we are of a different race.
To my knowledge Kenny does not have a criminal record, therefore that
rules out him being a thief or mugger (unless he is a very good one ;o))
And Kenny has not made a single negative comment about your disability.
...So with all your accusations discounted, i may as well study the
evidence against you...
1. There is evidence of you posting in a prostitution newsgroup.
2. You are most certainly not a teenager.
3. You ARE interested in a 13 year old girl (i am not suggesting any sexual
interest), namely Maria.
I believe this evidence proves that you are wrong and that Kenny is not
guilty of any of the things you accuse him of.
The Friendly Bonobo
99% Human
If he is guilty of what he suggests, if you can find out who his 'contact'
is, then you can get the 'contact' sacked for abusing his powers.
fuck off.. get out of hear, we don't want to hear you slating our friend.
you have no evidence for that, not even little clues...
we have seen posts from your account to prostitutes, maybe you didn't do it,
maybe you did.
do you have any posts from Kenny to mugging groups? no.
racist groups? no
anti-wheelchair groups? no
exactly, you have nothing, we have something. whether you want to discard
what we have is up to you, but you have nothing for us to even try to deny..
so you can personally suck my ass, D Hornby, GET OUT, Don't even try to say
that Kenny is bad..
look - Kenny isn't the 40 yr old in the teenage newsgroup is he???? :-)
Get your FUCKING FACTS RIGHT!
The company was taken to court because it refused to remove a message from a
newsgroup that someone else posted in the guise of one Laurence Goddfrey, he
demanded they remove it, they refused.
We got rid of hime though :o) We scared him away.
'we' hehe, as I recall it was me who took him on by spouting pages of legal
bullshit that confused his mind by being so wrong he actally had to go and
lie down :)
>
>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE find out the tinniest little sliver of information
>about a person before you make slanderous comments about them.
> IIRC Kenny is in fact of a different ethnic , he is of Chinese origin.
>That rules out the racism part of your message, as he talks to us as equals
>and we are of a different race.
> To my knowledge Kenny does not have a criminal record, therefore that
>rules out him being a thief or mugger (unless he is a very good one ;o))
> And Kenny has not made a single negative comment about your disability.
> ...So with all your accusations discounted, i may as well study the
>evidence against you...
>
>1. There is evidence of you posting in a prostitution newsgroup.
>2. You are most certainly not a teenager.
>3. You ARE interested in a 13 year old girl (i am not suggesting any sexual
>interest), namely Maria.
>
> I believe this evidence proves that you are wrong and that Kenny is not
>guilty of any of the things you accuse him of.
>
>The Friendly Bonobo
>99% Human
Wooo welcome back Bonobo ! Where have you been for so long ?
Thanx for defending me so quickly mate. Obvirously this perv Derek is
trying anything to have a go at me.
But I am such an excellent mugger. ;-)
>99% Human
Only 1% Inhuman(e) ?
>Kenny, Do you, go out and about, stealing for people?
>or, are you the type that dislikes/hates those of different
>race? or, to you laugh, and sneer at those in wheelchairs etc.
>I suggest, me doing what you suggest, is as likely as you doing
>*all* the things I've listed.
>Derek
Yes Derek I am an armed robber, and a known racist. I hate all white
people, I hope you ain`t white. Yes I laugh at cripples constantly. I
am also a rampent sex maniac.
Unlike you, I have shown no signs of any of deviant activities on
newsgroups , so the above may not be true. However you have tried to
obtain services from a hooker, which is illegal is it not ?
It has only come to my attention that you disabled, but that still
doesn`t mean you are allowed "services" eh does it.
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>fuck off.. get out of hear, we don't want to hear you slating our friend.
Ahhh ta Johnny.
>you have no evidence for that, not even little clues...
>we have seen posts from your account to prostitutes, maybe you didn't do it,
>maybe you did.
Maybe he was feeling a bit randy...
>do you have any posts from Kenny to mugging groups? no.
Yeah me and counterpart in the states share notes on attacking
grannys. Errr
>racist groups? no
>anti-wheelchair groups? no
LOL
>exactly, you have nothing, we have something. whether you want to discard
>what we have is up to you, but you have nothing for us to even try to deny..
>so you can personally suck my ass, D Hornby, GET OUT, Don't even try to say
>that Kenny is bad..
>
>look - Kenny isn't the 40 yr old in the teenage newsgroup is he???? :-)
Sure hope not !
Thanks for replying to that horny git.
4. He asked me to be his tour guide in Moscow! And i won't because i'm not
sure!
> 4. He asked me to be his tour guide in Moscow! And i won't because i'm not
> sure!
oh dear, that is more than a bit dodgy...
Is that a ephunamism for something else?