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Imran

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Sep 6, 2000, 1:30:43 PM9/6/00
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Anyone know if most universities are willing to release the average UCAS points
of accepted students on their courses before the next years prospecti comes out
?

It would be handy when you've got several similar courses at a university to
know which one would be more easy to get in to, especially this year after the
empty 11,000+ places.

Imran
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rob martin

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Sep 6, 2000, 3:13:54 PM9/6/00
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>Anyone know if most universities are willing to release the average UCAS points
>of accepted students on their courses before the next years prospecti comes out

It would be quite interesting to see the average points score - I know
the Oxford Chemistry dept. includes the average in their prospectus
and I read that for last year, the figure stood at 29.5.

I assume this is calculated on the best three A Levels, so it doesn't
really indicate what people were getting in their fourth A Level.

Rob

Simon Pearson

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Sep 6, 2000, 3:46:20 PM9/6/00
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or fifth or sixth or tenth...

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rob martin

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Sep 6, 2000, 7:09:59 PM9/6/00
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>or fifth or sixth or tenth...

Of course, I was been self-centred again, assuming people only do four
A Levels.

Rob

Daniel Tuck

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Sep 6, 2000, 7:32:12 PM9/6/00
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What about average school score?

Ours is 20.3 (from highest 3)

It would have been lower if you had excluded GS


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JHP

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Sep 7, 2000, 4:46:11 AM9/7/00
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Simon Pearson <simo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:13:54 GMT, robm...@btinternet.com (rob
> martin) of BT Internet blathered on about:
>
> >>Anyone know if most universities are willing to release the average UCAS
points
> >>of accepted students on their courses before the next years prospecti
comes out
> >
> >It would be quite interesting to see the average points score - I know
> >the Oxford Chemistry dept. includes the average in their prospectus
> >and I read that for last year, the figure stood at 29.5.
> >
> >I assume this is calculated on the best three A Levels, so it doesn't
> >really indicate what people were getting in their fourth A Level.
>
> or fifth or sixth or tenth...
>
> Si
>

Our School (Bath Uni Management School) release average A level scores. This
year it will be 29 points for both the Business Admin course and the
International Mgt with Languages. I think it's fairly common.

And, no we don't count more than 3 A levels for entry. We don't particularly
want people who do handfuls of A levels.

John


Josh Smith

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Sep 7, 2000, 9:28:54 AM9/7/00
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>
> Our School (Bath Uni Management School) release average A level scores.
This
> year it will be 29 points for both the Business Admin course and the
> International Mgt with Languages. I think it's fairly common.

Holy shit. I didn't think Bath was that high.

Josh


mr-evil

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Sep 7, 2000, 11:23:22 AM9/7/00
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Bath is a shithole
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JHP

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Sep 7, 2000, 12:10:16 PM9/7/00
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The Business Admin course is, but I believe only Mech. Eng. and Pharm are
also.
I only teach the 4th year ugs and last year was a bit poor but I gather that
stems from an admissions error three years ago! (It's a 4 year course).
I think it compares very very favourably with other degrees I've been
associated with.
John


Ginnie Redston

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Sep 7, 2000, 12:22:52 PM9/7/00
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Well it's in the top 5 in most league tables, isn't it, John?

Ginnie


rob martin

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Sep 7, 2000, 1:15:26 PM9/7/00
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>What about average school score?

Ours wobbles between 10 and 19 each year, some years it is high,
others it is low.

The AS Level score is even less predicable, it actually managed to
average about 2.5 pts per subject last year, though, if you took out
two or three high performing Yr12's, it would be somewhere around 0.5.
The AS scores at my school are typically terrible.

Rob

JHP

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Ginnie Redston <gin...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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It varies from subject to subject. Certainly the Business Thingies are in
the top three, but like most universities we have weaker areas.
To tell you the truth I don't follow them with great attention, because I
believe that as far as applicants are concerned the match of personal
requirements against the specifics of the course etc are far more important
than where the university as a whole stands in any league tables. I believe
that applicants should do much more research about the quality of teaching
in the specific subject and course they are considering. It could be (I
speak theoretically here) that Thames Valley might be far more respected
for, say linguistics than (ummm - arbitrary choice) Nottingham.

We pick our students carefully because our reputation in the Business school
is founded on the obscene salaries our finalists blag out of blue-chips, who
seem to want to employ out little bunnies as they bounce out of the forest
after their 4 year holiday. Last year a colleague of mine came in
white-faced after his tutee had told him that his starting salary was
greater than the top of the Lecturer B scale! Me, I take refuge in the
thought that the high salary generally comes with long hours, major stress
and early death. Apart from the last, I've been there and didn't like it
much.
John

(Thank you, I feel much better after that)


Dr Evil

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Sep 8, 2000, 7:06:03 PM9/8/00
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> It would be quite interesting to see the average points score - I know
> the Oxford Chemistry dept. includes the average in their prospectus
> and I read that for last year, the figure stood at 29.5.

Clearly, therefore, Oxford is shit. I got 50 points, and I'm going to
Trinity College, Cambridge.


Chris Share

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Sep 8, 2000, 8:35:57 PM9/8/00
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In article <8pbrgn$psr$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>,
Dr_...@btinternet.com says...

No, you got 30 points. Becaus the ponints sytem only counts the three
best.

chris

JHP

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Sep 9, 2000, 8:35:14 AM9/9/00
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> >
> > Clearly, therefore, Oxford is shit. I got 50 points, and I'm going to
> > Trinity College, Cambridge.
>
> No, you got 30 points. Becaus the ponints sytem only counts the three
> best.
>

Spot on. we don't want people who do 6 A levels. e';d prefer someone who had
done three (at a pinch 4) really well together with other achievements.
John


Dr Evil

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Sep 9, 2000, 3:20:31 PM9/9/00
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> Spot on. we don't want people who do 6 A levels. e';d prefer someone who
had
> done three (at a pinch 4) really well together with other achievements.
> John

'Other' achievements?


rob martin

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Sep 9, 2000, 4:25:39 PM9/9/00
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>Clearly, therefore, Oxford is shit. I got 50 points, and I'm going to
>Trinity College, Cambridge.

30 is the limit though. And while many national newspapers don't
understand this, the universities certainly do.

Above three A Levels the usefullness of the points system breaks down
as it doesn't provide a fair comparison between candidates who choose
different numbers of A Levels.

Something I was discussing with chris, what how many points would be
assigned to S-Lev/STEP grades, are they worth less or more than a
single A Level? I would imagine universities would prefer students to
have AAAA1 than AAAAA unless all five A Levels are directly relevant
to the course (and the S-type grade wasn't). What does everyone think?

Rob

Alex Warren

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Sep 9, 2000, 7:38:24 PM9/9/00
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:20:31 +0100, Dr Evil pondered:

What! You mean it is possible to do things other then be educated? A
preposterous allegation, I'm sure.

Alex

JHP

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Sep 10, 2000, 7:26:19 AM9/10/00
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No, but it is possible to become educated other than by doing A-levels.
By other achievements I mean musical instruments, or sport or charity or
expeditions, or stuff.
D of E goes down well.
John


Dr Evil

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Sep 10, 2000, 11:15:49 AM9/10/00
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> No, but it is possible to become educated other than by doing A-levels.
> By other achievements I mean musical instruments, or sport or charity or
> expeditions, or stuff.
> D of E goes down well.

Aah, you mean like my own entire High Council, which presides over many
different planets and galaxies, controlling the will and direction of
governments to my own Evil ends? How do you think I got into Cambridge?
Legitimately? Ha! I'm far too unedyoucated. Indeed, this is a preposterous
suggestion. My 50 points were gained at A Level by sheer repeated hacking of
several (idiotically connected to the International Network) mainframes that
the relevant examining bodies use; not by hard work.

Did I mention I give over £3 trillion to charities every year? (Some call
this governmental international aid. I call it bringing the world up to the
speed whereby it is more useful for my Evil deeds.)

Oh, and I have Grade 8 piano.


JHP

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Outstanding. Please walk this way where we will give you a vast scholarship
and your choice of pre-moistened partner to ease you through your early
weeks of study at our humble institution.
John


Dr Evil

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> Outstanding. Please walk this way where we will give you a vast
scholarship
> and your choice of pre-moistened partner to ease you through your early
> weeks of study at our humble institution.

Ooh, thank you. I look forward to that pre-moistened wotsit.


JHP

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

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It'll be a pleasure.

Talking about extra-curricular activities, when I was at my previous
university we had an offer from the head of a SE Asian state to come and
study wit us and we had to decide whether 4 GCSEs and a E in Economics plus
4 years as Head of State of an oppressive regime in SE Asia was equivalent
to our normal offer.
John


Dr Evil

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Sep 11, 2000, 4:45:39 PM9/11/00
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> > > Outstanding. Please walk this way where we will give you a vast
> > scholarship
> > > and your choice of pre-moistened partner to ease you through your
early
> > > weeks of study at our humble institution.
> >
> > Ooh, thank you. I look forward to that pre-moistened wotsit.
> >
> >
> It'll be a pleasure.
>
> Talking about extra-curricular activities, when I was at my previous
> university we had an offer from the head of a SE Asian state to come and
> study wit us and we had to decide whether 4 GCSEs and a E in Economics
plus
> 4 years as Head of State of an oppressive regime in SE Asia was equivalent
> to our normal offer.

Hmmm, yes. I see your quandary... Send this 'leader' to me. I shall deal
with the case in the usual fashion for Arse College applicants. I'm sure
there's some living space near the boiler...


JHP

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

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Thank you, Vice Chancellor. I shall send him to your office. Do you have
seats for the three large gentlemen accompanying him/ The ones with the
bulges under their left armpits.
John


Dr Evil

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Sep 12, 2000, 3:25:55 PM9/12/00
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> Thank you, Vice Chancellor. I shall send him to your office. Do you have
> seats for the three large gentlemen accompanying him/ The ones with the
> bulges under their left armpits.

You will forgive me for correcting your use of a title. I am not the Vice
Chancellor. I do not have any seats for them, but I believe my
near-perfected forcefield technology should suffice in this instance, if
only around myself.


Dr Evil

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Sep 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/13/00
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> Stop impersonating the Vice Chancellor immediately.

My apologies. I shall now resume my normal role of Founder, President, Owner
and Master of Arse College, Oxford.

JHP

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

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Stop impersonating the Vice Chancellor immediately.

John


Josh Smith

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > Thank you, Vice Chancellor. I shall send him to your office. Do you have
> > seats for the three large gentlemen accompanying him/ The ones with the
> > bulges under their left armpits.
>
> You will forgive me for correcting your use of a title. I am not the Vice
> Chancellor.

He's the Rectum of Arse College, I believe.

Rector, rectum --- never mind....

Josh


JHP

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Josh Smith <jo...@journalism.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

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No, that's Mr E.
John

JHP

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

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> > Stop impersonating the Vice Chancellor immediately.
>

> My apologies. I shall now resume my normal role of Founder, President,
Owner
> and Master of Arse College, Oxford.
>
>

You know, we could start selling degrees like those American places[1].
John
[1] including Harvard.

Dr Evil

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> You know, we could start selling degrees like those American places[1].
> John
> [1] including Harvard.

Yes, how much can we charge for each?

JHP

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Dr Evil <Dr_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

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The going rate appears to be about $1500 for a PhD. (Mine was cheaper than
that, of course)
we'd have some development investment to make though.
John

Dr Evil

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> > > You know, we could start selling degrees like those American
places[1].
> > > John
> > > [1] including Harvard.
> >
> > Yes, how much can we charge for each?
> >
> The going rate appears to be about $1500 for a PhD. (Mine was cheaper than
> that, of course)
> we'd have some development investment to make though.

Yes, investment of around £50, for the new plaque on the door. Having
obtained mine sometime in the 19th century, I thought it better to ask about
new rates. Mine, of course, is a bona-fide doctorate in Evil Studies, from
my Evil Medical School, so called because most of the 'inmates' need
constant medical attention.

I suggest racking up the advertising campaigns and then selling the PhDs for
around £2000. This would be far more agreeable than less than £1000,
considering the rather humiliating exchange rates this country has to face
right now.


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