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Gillian Sullivan

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Hi,

anyone doing or done - and got an "A"! - A level Art History with the AEB
in one year?

When we try previous exam questions for essays they seem so vague, requiring
opinions/analysis rather than facts.

I'm an adult student who needs some friendly tips!!!

thanks, Gi

Ginnie Redston

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Gillian Sullivan <gil...@sullivan33.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just realised no-one's picked up on this one. Not unfriendly, it's just that
I don't think anyone here is doing/has done History of Art "A". Have you
contacted the board and asked them to send a teacher's guide and marking
schemes for the last 2-3 years? They will, if you do. There'll be a charge
but they're well worth the money: you'll get an idea of what the examiners
are looking for.

HTH

Ginnie


Gillian Sullivan

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Hey thanks Ginnie, for a moment I thought I was "home alone"!

I didn't know you could get guides so that's really helpful. I will contact
the board.

Today I visited the National Gallery in London for the first time and it was
really great to see the paintings "live".

many thanks.

TTFN, Gillian


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Barry Whyte

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Gillian Sullivan <gil...@sullivan33.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hey, an Art History thread - I missed this too! (Sorry!) I did Art History
as part of Higher Art which I did last year (I'm in Scotland for those who
don't know), though I didn't so loads since it was only a small part of the
course - 25% of the overall grade. But I've got a really interesting story
to tell about it...

In the Higher Art exam paper, the first half is critical evaluation of art,
design and architecture; then the second half is essay topics on art and
design. It's the only glossy exam paper - with colour prints to use with the
first section of the paper. I was always reasonably good at art criticism -
until I opened my paper on the day of the exam... question one asked you to
compare two pieces both entitled 'Self Portrait'. The first piece was a cute
little drawing by some artist I had never heard of. The second was a
close-up photo of someone holding a human brain. I was almost sick over the
exam paper. It was the most disgusting horrible thing I had seen, and it put
me right-off a discussion of realism for section two... eugghh....

(I'm sure your exam will be oodles better - don't worry!) Just thought I'd
share that with everyone... I really liked art history. It's quite a hard
subject, but really interesting. Unlike English literature, there is no one
predefined "interpretation" of a work - you are free to express your own
opinions, and I like that.

As for how I revised, I took an A4 notepad and at the top of each page wrote
the title of each major art/design movement we were to know about (we only
did c. 1840-1930). I then listed the major features of this movement as a
bullet list underneath the title, and on the reverse of each page I wrote
down the names of some artists associated with the movement and one or two
of their notable works. I also jotted down specific points about some
paintings. I then bought some really cheap books from Bargain Books
containing a collection of paintings from a famous artist, and used these to
work from.

Good luck,
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Barry

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Flexiblegoat

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:20:53 -0000, "Barry Whyte" <bwh...@net.ntl.com>
wrote:

BLASPHEMER. There is NOT only one interpretation of any given peice of
literature. Granted the author may intend one particular thing, but
the same goes for an artist probably. Take wuthering Heights for
example. You can read it in 600 and 15 different ways. Feminist
interpretation, marxist, wierd love story interpretation, celebration
of earthly pragmaticism, allegory for man's history, the story of
Ireland's avenger. Same with say... Brideshead Revisited to pluck a
name out of the air. Er... let me think. Celebration of doomed
aristocratic world, condemnation of same world, a tract of catholicism
perhaps, the automated, heavy hand of fate in our little lives. I
friend of mine though Graham Greene was an athiest for gods sake, if
thats not evidence of differeing interpretation I don't know what is.

Its not all about what the author thought, and its not all about what
your teacher thought. You pick a thread you can see running through
it, focus it and find evidence for it, build a structure around your
thoughts and write a highly rewarding essay.


>As for how I revised, I took an A4 notepad and at the top of each page wrote
>the title of each major art/design movement we were to know about (we only
>did c. 1840-1930). I then listed the major features of this movement as a
>bullet list underneath the title, and on the reverse of each page I wrote
>down the names of some artists associated with the movement and one or two
>of their notable works. I also jotted down specific points about some
>paintings. I then bought some really cheap books from Bargain Books
>containing a collection of paintings from a famous artist, and used these to
>work from.
>
>Good luck,
>--
>Barry
>
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>
>

Paul
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- And the moral of the Tory is...? -


Ginnie Redston

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Flexiblegoat <look...@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>Barry wrote:
>
Unlike English literature, there is no one
> >predefined "interpretation" of a work - you are free to express your own
> >opinions, and I like that.
>
Upon which, before I can even reach for my English cap, the Flexible Goat
paws the turf, lowers his horned head and charges towards the haystack upon
which Barry sits harmlessly musing on Turner and Monet as he admires the
sunset.

> BLASPHEMER. There is NOT only one interpretation of any given peice of
> literature. Granted the author may intend one particular thing, but
> the same goes for an artist probably. Take wuthering Heights for
> example. You can read it in 600 and 15 different ways. Feminist
> interpretation, marxist, wierd love story interpretation, celebration
> of earthly pragmaticism, allegory for man's history, the story of
> Ireland's avenger. Same with say... Brideshead Revisited to pluck a
> name out of the air. Er... let me think. Celebration of doomed
> aristocratic world, condemnation of same world, a tract of catholicism
> perhaps, the automated, heavy hand of fate in our little lives. I
> friend of mine though Graham Greene was an athiest for gods sake, if
> thats not evidence of differeing interpretation I don't know what is.
>
> Its not all about what the author thought, and its not all about what
> your teacher thought. You pick a thread you can see running through
> it, focus it and find evidence for it, build a structure around your
> thoughts and write a highly rewarding essay.
>

> Paul

<Arrive, puffing and wheezing, having finally negotiated the stile and
trotted across the stubble>

Well, yes, ummm, stress Evidence . . . . and Structure . . . . . . and don't
forget Literary Context........

<collapses on remains of haystack by Barry's gored body>


Ginnie

Ginnie Redston

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Gillian Sullivan <gil...@sullivan33.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hey thanks Ginnie, for a moment I thought I was "home alone"!
>
> I didn't know you could get guides so that's really helpful. I will
contact
> the board.
>
> Today I visited the National Gallery in London for the first time and it
was
> really great to see the paintings "live".
>
> many thanks.
>
> TTFN, Gillian
>
<burble warning>

Yes, for me one of the good things about being at London uni was that I
could potter around the galleries on quiet afternoons (having picked up
cheap theatre tickets for the evening). I think my favourite place was the
Courtauld gallery which used to be just round the corner from Dillons (now
Waterstones?) and the Senate House. And although it was a bit out of my way
(my College was in NW land) I also loved the V and A - the richness and
variety of all the stuff they've got there, huge jewel-coloured Persion silk
carpets, Buddhas, European historical costumes AND paintings.

<end burble>

Ginnie

Barry Whyte

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Flexiblegoat <look...@dircon.co.uk> wrote

> >(I'm sure your exam will be oodles better - don't worry!) Just thought
I'd
> >share that with everyone... I really liked art history. It's quite a hard
> >subject, but really interesting. Unlike English literature, there is no

one
> >predefined "interpretation" of a work - you are free to express your own
> >opinions, and I like that.
>
> BLASPHEMER. There is NOT only one interpretation of any given peice of
> literature.

Hehe... I *knew* you were going to pick up on this :-)

Never thought you'd pick up so quickly though - a reply in 25 mins... this
must be contraversial :-)

> Granted the author may intend one particular thing, but
> the same goes for an artist probably. Take wuthering Heights for
> example. You can read it in 600 and 15 different ways. Feminist
> interpretation, marxist, wierd love story interpretation, celebration
> of earthly pragmaticism, allegory for man's history, the story of
> Ireland's avenger. Same with say... Brideshead Revisited to pluck a
> name out of the air. Er... let me think. Celebration of doomed
> aristocratic world, condemnation of same world, a tract of catholicism
> perhaps, the automated, heavy hand of fate in our little lives. I
> friend of mine though Graham Greene was an athiest for gods sake, if
> thats not evidence of differeing interpretation I don't know what is.

Sorry - don't beleive you! For too long I have suffered at the hands of
English teachers telling me "NO! Thats not what the authour meant!" to be
taken in by your calculated ploys to enslave me into the land of literature.
For years I endured marking schemes which did not respect my intepretation
and only had time for someone elses. No more! I've had enough! (In fact, I
had enough last May when I dropped English :-) )

> Its not all about what the author thought, and its not all about what
> your teacher thought. You pick a thread you can see running through
> it, focus it and find evidence for it, build a structure around your
> thoughts and write a highly rewarding essay.

Oooh the joys of literature - I still prefer paintings though d;-p
--
Barry

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Matthew M. Huntbach

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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Ginnie Redston (gin...@globalnet.co.uk) wrote:
> Gillian Sullivan <gil...@sullivan33.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message

> > anyone doing or done - and got an "A"! - A level Art History with the
> > AEB in one year?

> Just realised no-one's picked up on this one. Not unfriendly, it's just

> that I don't think anyone here is doing/has done History of Art "A".

I did History of Art O-level, and I think it was the best O-level I did.
Mainly because it kept me writing essays and practicing my English
language and power of thought at a time when I was the typical hard science
type. Up till then, it seemed to me that writing essays had always been
about "creative writing", but for the first time I discovered it could be
about explaining ideas about real things rather than telling stories.
The teacher was one of those quirky sorts who was treated as a bit of a
joke by most pupils, but had a way of getting through to the odd one or
two - I suspect the school kept this O-level going, which never attracted
many takers, as a personal indulgence to him.

Matthew Huntbach

Chris Share

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:53:56 GMT, nd...@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Niall
Saville) wrote:

>On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:13:14 -0000, "smurf" <em...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>where where where where where where where where where can I get chuckie egg?
>>
>>I haven't turned on my bbc since new year (haven't got chuckie egg on it
>>anyway) as I'm sure it's got the millenium bug and that would be such a sad
>>end for the poor little thing.
No! The BBC does not get the millennium bug. Ha! Well, the A, B and B+
don't but the BBC master series do. Mine thinks it's 1952.
>
>I'm getting a BBC soon! *bounce* and I'm going to get Chuckie Egg
>ASAP..
>
>http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/bbc/sw/AF/ChuckieEgg.zip
>
>:)
>
>--
>Niall Saville
Welcome to the world of REAL computing!! I've got 3 beebs ATM, so I'll
hopefully be safe for a few decades yet. I actually prefer playing
chuckie on my PC, emulated or PC port, because it's very annoying
trying to find the right disk. However, I'll be getting an old econet
server from school soon, so I'll be able to play as much as I want.
Btw, get Mainc Miner and Repton. Those, along with chuckie make the 3
best 80's games. Hungry Horace was brilliant too, but it was only
released on the Dragon 32 and an inferior version for the speccy.
Get the speccy version of jetpac - that's good too, but the BBC
version is crap.
If you want any of these games, I can send them to you via e-mail.
chris

Niall Saville

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 23:18:42 GMT, chris...@newscientist.net (Chris
Share) wrote:

>Welcome to the world of REAL computing!! I've got 3 beebs ATM, so I'll
>hopefully be safe for a few decades yet. I actually prefer playing
>chuckie on my PC, emulated or PC port, because it's very annoying
>trying to find the right disk. However, I'll be getting an old econet
>server from school soon, so I'll be able to play as much as I want.
>Btw, get Mainc Miner and Repton. Those, along with chuckie make the 3
>best 80's games. Hungry Horace was brilliant too, but it was only
>released on the Dragon 32 and an inferior version for the speccy.
>Get the speccy version of jetpac - that's good too, but the BBC
>version is crap.
>If you want any of these games, I can send them to you via e-mail.

What, no Elite?!

I've actually still got to find a way to get disk images onto 5.25
disks... ho hum.

I don't like Emulation that much - not of computers though. I've got
just about all the console emulators :)

--
Niall Saville
Celibate when sober : Still eating yogurt : Maths through engineering
Find me up a cliff or mountain or way down in the pits of depression.
Trying to set up a CU Hypnosis Society - Email me for details....

Josh Smith

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 09:02:10 +0000, Niall Saville
<nd...@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>What, no Elite?!

I used to spend *days* playing Elite II -- until I got to the stage
where you've pretty much done anything. I did discover two things
though:

1) a manual land is very, very difficult -- I only managed to do it
once
2) the hardest part of the game is being an assassin. Frankly, though
you can make more money out of trading.

Josh
--
Freelance Writer
'A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything,
and the value of nothing' -- Oscar Wilde

David Gruar

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 23:18:42 GMT, chris...@newscientist.net (Chris
Share) wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:53:56 GMT, nd...@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Niall
>Saville) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:13:14 -0000, "smurf" <em...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>where where where where where where where where where can I get chuckie egg?
>>>
>>>I haven't turned on my bbc since new year (haven't got chuckie egg on it
>>>anyway) as I'm sure it's got the millenium bug and that would be such a sad
>>>end for the poor little thing.
>No! The BBC does not get the millennium bug. Ha! Well, the A, B and B+
>don't but the BBC master series do. Mine thinks it's 1952.

The Amstrad PCW is fairly untroubled too - every time you turn it on
it thinks it's 1982. Though should you want to tell it the correct
date for some obscure reason, it doesn't recognise the year 2000 or
beyond.

Ah, it brings back memories.

--
David
(Remove obvious to reply)

"One should try everything once, except incest and folk dancing."
- Arnold Bax

Chris Share

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 09:02:10 +0000, Niall Saville
<nd...@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 23:18:42 GMT, chris...@newscientist.net (Chris
>Share) wrote:
>

>>Welcome to the world of REAL computing!! I've got 3 beebs ATM, so I'll
>>hopefully be safe for a few decades yet. I actually prefer playing
>>chuckie on my PC, emulated or PC port, because it's very annoying
>>trying to find the right disk. However, I'll be getting an old econet
>>server from school soon, so I'll be able to play as much as I want.
>>Btw, get Mainc Miner and Repton. Those, along with chuckie make the 3
>>best 80's games. Hungry Horace was brilliant too, but it was only
>>released on the Dragon 32 and an inferior version for the speccy.
>>Get the speccy version of jetpac - that's good too, but the BBC
>>version is crap.
>>If you want any of these games, I can send them to you via e-mail.
>
>What, no Elite?!
>
>I've actually still got to find a way to get disk images onto 5.25
>disks... ho hum.
>
>I don't like Emulation that much - not of computers though. I've got
>just about all the console emulators :)
>
>--
>Niall Saville

I don't like Elite much - probably because the only time I played it I
just kept pressing keys until it did somethink - like reset. <g>
If I can fix my serial cable, I've got one prog that turns images into
archive format, then another to transfer archive files to beeb.
chris

- drove my chevvy to the levy, but the levy was dry -
(sp?)

Mark Thakkar

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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David,

> "One should try everything once, except incest and folk dancing."
> - Arnold Bax

My DOQ gives "You should make a point of trying every experience once,
excepting incest and folk-dancing." (Arnold Bax quoting 'a sympathetic
Scot' in "Farewell My Youth" (1943))

But your version sounds better...

Mark.

David Gruar

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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Mine comes from some Dictionary of Humorous Quotations that my granny
has, and I think I've remembered it word for word. These quotes seem
to get mangled as they get passed from person to person.

--
David
(Remove obvious to reply)

"One should try everything once, except incest and folk dancing."
- Arnold Bax

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