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UFO ROUNDUP
Volume 3, Number 30
July 26, 1998
Editor: Joseph Trainor

FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA

On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
(population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about
135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff.
According to Mary C. of Concho, Ariz., all four
cows were carrying calves at the time. "The blood
was gone (from the cattle) and the eyes were gone,"
she reported, "Also about 30 feet away from them
were the unborn calves."
The tongues of the four cows and the unborn
calves were removed by the mutilators. The loss
was estimated at $10,000. According to Mary, the
Arizona Cattleman's Association plans to
investigate the incident.
According to Terry W. Colvin, there have been
other mutilations recently in eastern Arizona.
"Something is killing and mutilating cattle, horses
and other animals in the southeastern Arizona
counties of Cochise, Pima and Santa Cruz."
"Robert Marsett, a cowhand with the Sands ranch,
told of a recent kill and mutilation," Colvin reported.
"The carcass appeared where only live cattle were seen
the day before, but the dead cow smelled as though
dead for several days. Marsett says coyotes and
vultures did not approach the carcass. Nearby cows
failed to nuzzle the carcass, as usually happens.
Some blood was drained, organs were removed, and
some samples were taken in the genital/rectal area."
(Many thanks to AGETI and Steve Wilson Sr. for these
news stories.)

TRIANGULAR UFO SEEN
OVER SEDONA, ARIZONA

On Wednesday, July 15, 1998, at 10 p.m., Karl J.
and three friends spotted "a very large UFO over the
general area of Schnebly Hill" in Sedona, Arizona
(population 7,720), a town on Highway 89A about
24 miles (38 kilometers) south of Flagstaff.
Karl described the UFO as "several times larger
than a passenger airliner such as the Concorde" and
as "a dark-colored equilateral triangle with a bright
white light on each corner and a larger light source,
a glaring orange-red light in the middle. It came from
the general direction of Flagstaff (north) and then
changed direction. It made very little, if any, sound.
The entire sighting lasted five to ten minutes, ending
when it flew out of visual range."
Another witness, Michelle, reported, "The triangular-
shaped object was moving across the sky faster than
conventional aircraft. But because of the excessive
size of the craft, it created the impression that it was
moving in a slow, steady rate. It was a dark or amber
brown in color and giving the impression of an
effervescent gilded glow" which "helped to define its
triangular shape. It came from a northerly direction
and abruptly veered off in an eastern direction."
"If I held up a watermelon at arm's length in front of
me, it would not have obscured the triangular shape
from view," she reported, adding that the object was
"perhaps bigger than a flying football field." (Many
thanks to Peter Gersten of Citizens Against UFO
Secrecy, CAUS, for forwarding these reports.)

V-SHAPED UFO FLIES OVER
SOUTHERN RHODE ISLAND

On Wednesday, July 22, 1998, at 10 p.m.,
Pamela S. and her husband were relaxing on the
deck of their home in Matunuck, Rhode Island
(population 550) when they spotted a V-shaped
UFO passing overhead.
"It was a warm evening, and I was laying down
on my deck," Pamela reported, "Suddenly, I saw
this huge V-shaped object coming from the south
heading north. It appeared to glide across the sky,
and I could not hear any engine-type noise."
Matunuck is a village on Rhode Island's
southern Atlantic Ocean shore, located on Potter
Road just off U.S. Route 1, about 40 miles
(64 kilometers) south of Providence, the state
capital.
As the UFO came in over the ocean and
flew north over Washington County (better known
to Rhode Islanders as "South County"--J.T.), she
added, "I would say it was silent. It appeared to
have several box-shaped areas that sort of glowed.
I wouldn't call it a light."
"Unfortunately, my husband was resting and
did not have his eyeglasses on, but he too saw the
V-shaped object but could not see any details."
(Many thanks for Peter Gersten of CAUS for
forwarding this report.)
(Editor's Comment: Now the UFOs are really
close to home. Your editor lives about 20 miles
north of Matunuck.)

DAYLIGHT DISC SPOTTED IN
CORVALLIS, OREGON

On Thursday, July 16, 1998, in mid-afternoon,
James D. was at his home in Corvallis, Oregon
(population 44,959) when he spotted a gleam
in the sky.
"I was in our front yard in Corvallis, Oregon,
admiring the blueness of the sky," James reported,
when he "looked up and watched a plane go by,
north to south, at a high elevation angle above the
western horizon. While still facing west with my
head turned up, I suddenly saw this whitish thing
speed by from nearly overhead, traveling toward
the west in a perfectly straight line until it disappeared
in the distance at about 20 degrees elevation. But it
was only visible for about two seconds, or maybe only
1.5 seconds, so fast was it going."
"It seemed to be at a considerable height, like 500
to 1,000 feet," he added, "It was sort of a 'misty' white
object with no shaded underside and no highlights
reflecting the sunlight."
Corvallis is at the intersection of Oregon Highways
99E and 24 approximately 81 miles (129 kilometers)
south of Portland. (Many thanks to Steve Wilson Sr.
for forwarding this report.)

FOUR GLOWING UFOs HOVER
OVER A NEIGHBORHOOD IN
REDDING, CALIFORNIA

On Thursday, July 22, 1998, at 1:35 a.m., four
brightly luminous UFOs hovered over a suburban
neighborhood near Lake Boulevard in Redding,
California (population 66,462). The objects
were seen by a woman and her two grandchildren.
According to Bonnie R., her mother, E.R., her
12-year-old niece N. H., and her six-year-old
nephew Devon R. watched the UFO display for
over 45 minutes and even telephoned her while it
was going on.
The incident began when Devon "was awakened
by the extremely bright light coming through the
bedroom (window), and he woke his sister up. They
couldn't see any bodies (fuselage) because of the
intensity of the light, but they seemed to be the size
of a golf ball held out at arm's length. They seemed
to be white. It started at 1:35 a.m. and went on until
well past 2 a.m."
"The UFOs were in close proximity to the house,"
she added, "probably less than a tenth of a mile
(0.2 kilometers) away. It started with four bright lights
which were rising up and then sort of bobbing in the
air side-to-side maneuvers, then they 'exploded' and
more lights and smaller sparks flew around them."
"My nephew was screaming because he had never
seen such a thing, but my mom, of course, was
terrified that they had come to abduct her again.
And Devon got on the phone and" described what
they were seeing, and "he did tell a pretty good
description."
Redding is on Highway 299 approximately 212
miles (339 kilometers) northeast of San Francisco.
(Email Interview)

ANOTHER GREEN FIREBALL
IN THE MOJAVE DESERT

On Tuesday, July 14, 1998, at 12:31 a.m., Jack
L. Curtis was driving on California Highway 58
near Mojave (population 3,673) when he spotted
a mysterious bluish-green fireball cleaving the
desert's night sky.
"I was traveling eastbound on Highway 58
about 75 miles east of Bakersfield. I was about
ten miles (16 kilometers) east of Mojave when I
noticed another fireball," Jack reported.
"This one was blue/green in color and unlike
the others (Jack reported last month--J.T.) had a
short orange-yellow flickering tail. Visibility
estimated at four seconds start-to-end. The
highway at this location runs directly eastward,
and the fireball was at about 40 degrees above
the horizon at start and end on the highway.
The azimuth was approximately 70 degrees,
according to the marine compass mounted on
my dash (dashboard). It was in a very steep
descent, appearing to be flying straight toward
the ground. The size was about the size of a
fist, and the tail was about two feet in length
and was really flickering and changing (color)
between orange and yellow."
This was Jack's fourth fireball sighting since
April. Mojave is located about 80 miles
(128 kilometers) north of Los Angeles. (Email
Interview)

MICHIGAN HAS TWO MORE
UFO SIGHTINGS

On Friday, July 17, 1998, at 11:10 p.m., a
woman in Pinckney, Michigan (population 1,603)
"noticed a 'white light' flashing just outside her
kitchen window. She found this odd because the
kitchen window faces a large open field, not the
road, and that 'it does get pitch black out there.'"
Moving closer to the window, the witness
"looked outside and noticed 'a bright red light,
I mean, bright' which just appeared in the southeast
flying slowly in a northwesterly direction. It stopped
above the tree line outside her kitchen window. She
described it as 'a softball-sized, round, bright red
light...like a big tomato' with no defined edges.
The light hovered in this position for approximately
ten to fifteen minutes."
Deciding not to go outside for a closer look,
the woman watched as the UFO moved slowly
westward" before vanishing from view.
Pinckney is on Michigan Highway 36 about
52 miles (84 kilometers) west of Detroit. (Many
thanks to Alex Cavallari for this report.)
The following night, Saturday, July 18, 1998,
at 10:50 p.m., a couple in Marlette, Michigan
(population 1,924) spotted a UFO.
According to Jeffrey S. Westover of Michigan
MUFON, the couple--Lee, 54, and Norman, 52--
were "stargazing from their backyard patio" and
saw "a bright golden-yellow star-like object moving
from the northwest, near the Big Dipper, to the
southeast. 'It flew at least as twice as fast as a
(commercial) jet and traveled in a perfectly straight
line,' said Norm, 'There was no sound.'"
"Five minutes later, a second star-like object
followed exactly the same path, originating from
the northwest, passing through the Big Dipper and
traveling to the southeast. Both objects were
comparable in brightness to 2.5 magnitude stars."
At approximately 11:15 p.m., Lee and Norm
witnessed "'a single white light, moving at typical
jet speed' and as bright as a third magnitude star.
The bright light was steady, not pulsing, as it moved
through Ursa Major. With the witnesses facing
north, and the object moving away at approximately
70 degrees altitude, it suddenly flared. The flare
expanded the light to about ten times its original
size."
"'We both exclaimed, WOW! at the same time,'
Norm said. The flare lasted for about a second before
the light returned to its original size. A few seconds
later, it flared again. At this point, the light disappeared
to the north." (Many thanks to Jeffrey S. Westover of
Michigan MUFON for this report.)

TWO SAUCERS FLY OVER
RED DEER, ALBERTA

On Sunday, July 19, 1998, at 9:40 p.m., Cameron
Smith was in his hometown of Red Deer, Alberta,
Canada (population 58,134) when he "saw two
wobbly discs of a silver gray colour fly by slowly
at the speed of an aircraft."
Smith wants to know if anyone else in Alberta
had a sighting that night. Witnesses can write to
him at #8 Arquetel Close, Red Deer, Alberta
74R 1G7, Canada.
Red Deer is 84 miles (134 kilometers) south of
Edmonton, the provincial capital. (See Filer's Files
#29 for 1998. Many thanks to George A. Filer,
Eastern Director of MUFON, for this news story.)

SILVER TRIANGULAR UFO
SEEN IN WOLVERHAMPTON

On Saturday, July 18, 1998, at midnight,
Stephen T. was on Wellington Road in Bilston, a
suburb of Wolverhampton, West Midlands, UK,
when he sighted a triangular UFO.
"It appeared to be silver in colour and was
traveling eastward," Stephen reported, "There were
no apparent lights that I could see. The object
appeared to be only 1,000 feet up. It was traveling
fairly fast. The object had rounded aerodynamic
corners. It was about 80 degrees above the horizon.
It was a fairly clear night with little cloud in place.
I had the object in view for about five to ten seconds,
after which time it reached the horizon and disappeared
into a cloud in the distance." (Email Interview)

UFOs FLY OVER LONDON AND
HERTFORDSHIRE

On Sunday, July 12, 1998, at 7:10 p.m., a man
driving on motorway A505 in Royston, Hertfordshire,
UK suddenly spotted a squadron of "eight to ten
UFOs" hovering over a field.
"The witness was driving at the time of viewing the
objects and had first viewed them from the A10
Royston roundabout (rotary in the USA). The objects
were interacting with each other" and remained in one
single portion of the sky. "Their movement seemed
unflowing (quirky) and electrical. The objects were
hovering just above the peak of the hill. The sighting
lasted approximately two minutes. As it was still
early evening and pretty light out, the objects were
reflecting the fading sunlight...a silver or white colour
coming off the objects."
On Sunday, July 19, 1998, at 3:30 a.m., two
witnesses in the Vauxhall section of central London
"noticed two golden-orange luminous objects"
crossing the sky. "The objects came from the south
and were heading east." The UFOs moved in close
tandem, "almost as a single object," and remained in
view for one minute, 45 seconds before disappearing
behind some nearby buildings. (Many thanks to
Roy Hale of ELUFON and Errol Bruce-Knapp for
these news stories.)

BLACK HELICOPTERS ACTIVE
IN MANY STATES OF THE USA

Black helicopters were sighted last week in
Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and
North Carolina.
On Saturday, July 18, 1998, "an all-black
helicopter with no markings" was seen by motorists
just north of Madison (population 191,262), the
state capital of Wisconsin.
Also on Saturday, July 18, at 12:30 a.m., "three
helicopters flew west to east over XPI's headquarters.
'The helicopters flew so low they knocked the power
off the VCRs,' said Scott Leeper, who was inside
the building" in Rockwell, North Carolina (population
1,598), a small town on Highway 52 about 130 miles
(208 kilometers) southwest of Raleigh.
XPI is a ufological investigation group closely
affiliated with American UFO Newsletter. AUFON
editor Stefan Duncan was not in the building at the
time of the overflight.
On Sunday, July 19, 1998, the solo black
helicopter was seen again, this time south of Madison,
Wis. Eyewitnesses said the pilot "flew a grid pattern
over the area." The helicopter "remained in sighr for
approximately ten minutes."
On Monday, July 20, 1998, at 5:39 p.m., a single
black AH-1 Cobra attack helicopter was spotted flying
west above Interstate Highway 76 about two miles
south of King of Prussia, Pennsylvania (population
18406), a suburb of Philadelphia.
Also on Monday, July 20, at about 2 p.m., a
motorist on Interstate Highway 94, just west of
Ann Arbor, Michigan, reported sighting "a black
helicopter with no markings at all, just a few
numbers on the tail (boom)."
At least one Michigan helicopter was identified
as belonging to the Michigan Air National Guard.
While flying over the Thornapple River near Hastings,
Michigan (population 6,549), the crew was searching
for hidden marijuana fields when they spotted a man
on the ground "shaking his fist" at them and "acting
in a suspicious manner."
When the man climbed into a truck and drove
away, the ANG helicopter notified authorities and
gave them a description of the vehicle. Police
arrested the man, Mark Koernke, 41, also known
as "Mark from Michigan," a militia spokesman
and co-host of the radio talk show Intelligence Report.
Koernke had been wanted by Michigan authorities
for weeks on charges of assault and failure to appear
in court.
According to radio co-host John Stadtmiller,
Koernke and another woman, Annie Dawson, were
being held at the Washtenaw County Jail near Ann
Arbor pending an upcoming court appearance.
Hastings is on Michigan Highway 37 about
38 miles (61 kilometers) southwest of Lansing,
the state capital.
On Tuesday, July 21, 1998, a private pilot
waiting to take off from Midway Airport, at the
intersection of 55th Street and Cicero Road in
Chicago, Illinois saw "three black helicopters
parked out at the far end of the runway."
On Thursday, July 23, 1998, AUFON editor
Stefan Duncan reported seeing "a small black
unmarked helicopter fly fast and low over the
trees about 100 yards" from the XPI building
in Rockwell, North Carolina.
(See American UFO Newsletter #13 for 1998,
the Grand Rapids, Michigan Free Press and
the Battle Creek, Michigan Enquirer for July 22,
1998. Many thanks to all the readers who
contributed reports to this story.)
(Editor's Note: Mark Koernke's videotapes
America In Peril 1 and 2 were among the
items confiscated from the Heaven's Gate
group's cache in Encino, California in
late March 1997. See UFO Roundup, Volume 2,
Number 13.)

from the UFO Files...

1970: A UFO ENCOUNTER IN
NEW SOUTH WALES

"On Thursday, 30th July 1970, a Mr. Phillips was
standing on a lookout above Laura Cascades which
overlooks the Jamison Valley" of New South Wales
"when directly ahead of him, a strange object of brilliant
falmaing silver colour suddenly appeared from behind
Mount Solitary. The time was 5:30 p.m. and the sky
was clear. Mr. Phillips judged the object to be about
10 kilometres (6 miles) away across the valley, and four
or five degrees east of due south and about the same
angle above the horizon."
"The object was quite large, as big as a large
aircraft, and emitted no noise. It was shaped like a
sphere, the top being joined to a cylinder and the
conical section between them appearing to follow an
exponential curve. After remaining motionless for
half a minute after its appearance, the mysterious
craft suddenly moved off at a terrific speed, soaring
upward into the sky and disappearing from sight."
(See MYSTERIOUS AUSTRALIA by Rex Gilroy,
Nexus Publishing, Mapleton, Qnld., Australia, 1995,
page 25)

Twenty-five years ago, on July 26, 1973, astronauts
Allan L. Bean, Owen K. Garriott and Jack R. Lousma
blasted off from Cape Canaveral for a rendezvous with
the orbiting Skylab. Their 59-day mission was the
USA's first serious attempt at a long-duration space
flight.

And we'll be back next weekend with more saucer
news from around the planet, brought to you by
"the paper that goes home--UFO Roundup." See
you then.

UFO ROUNDUP: Copyright 1998 by Masinaigan
Productions, all rights reserved. Readers may post
items from UFO Roundup on their websites and in
newsgroups provided that they credit the newsletter
and its editor by name and list the date of issue in
which the item first appeared.


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Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:

>---- Begin Forwarded Message
> UFO ROUNDUP
> Volume 3, Number 30
> July 26, 1998
> Editor: Joseph Trainor
>
> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
>
> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about

> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.

When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.

Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.


If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
little of robbing, and from robbing he comes next to drinking and
Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.

Thomas De Quincey - Murder Considered as One of the Fine Arts

SPHINX Technologies

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Jul 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/27/98
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In article <6pibd3$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
<twi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>
>>---- Begin Forwarded Message
>> UFO ROUNDUP
>> Volume 3, Number 30
>> July 26, 1998
>> Editor: Joseph Trainor
>>
>> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
>> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
>>
>> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
>> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
>> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about
>> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
>
>When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
>were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
>knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
>themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
>
>Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
>the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
>

Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?

Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.

Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.

Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
uncaring sonofabitch?

-John S.

bear

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SPHINX Technologies wrote:

> In article <6pibd3$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
> <twi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
> >

> >>---- Begin Forwarded Message
> >> UFO ROUNDUP
> >> Volume 3, Number 30
> >> July 26, 1998
> >> Editor: Joseph Trainor
> >>
> >> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
> >> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
> >>
> >> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
> >> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
> >> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about

> >> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
> >
> >When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
> >were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
> >knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
> >themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
> >
> >Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
> >the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
> >
>
> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>
> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>
> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>
> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
> uncaring sonofabitch?

Twitch, I don't think you're uncaring. :) bear

>
>
> -John S.


Brian RA Sterling

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>>> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
>>> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
>>> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about
>>> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
>>
>>When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
>>were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
>>knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
>>themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
>>
>>Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
>>the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
>>
>
> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>
> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>
> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>
> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
> uncaring sonofabitch?
>
> -John S.

John, he is most likely just that, an immoral uncaring sonofabitch cause
either way to write what he writes, he would have to be that, even IF he
was getting paid to spread lies.

Just my .02 $


--
*Remember your future*
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CNN is misinformation
Entertainment Tonight is the truth

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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sph...@world.std.com (SPHINX Technologies) wrote:

>In article <6pibd3$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
> <twi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>>

<snip>


>>>
>>> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
>>> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
>>> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
>>> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about

>>> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
>>
>>When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
>>were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
>>knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
>>themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
>>
>>Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
>>the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
>>
>
>Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
>animals funny?

No.

But I do find funny the assinine reasons that some people
come up with to explain it.

It is sort of like the people who think that the CIA FOIA
documents show a massive cover-up so we won't find out about
them having alien spacecraft.

Or people who believe that the AF has consistently changed
their story on Roswell.

We have a lot of loonies on these newsgroups.

>Or the destruction of a business person's property,
>to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>
>Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.

Thank you.

I do enjoy laughing at idiocy.

>
>Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,

Don't I wish!

What a neat way to supplement my retirement income.

Do you know how I can apply for such a job? What is the
vacancy announcement?

>to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
>starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.

Deflect?

Hell, I am the one who posts real info, unlike those idiots
that claim that the CIA FOIA documents show a cover-up or
that the AF has consistently changed its tune about Roswell.


>
>Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
>uncaring sonofabitch?
>

A or B, huh?

I choose option C.

Option C = Knowledgeable skeptic who posts real info.

What are you, John, A or B?

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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bear <int...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>SPHINX Technologies wrote:
>
>> In article <6pibd3$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
>> <twi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>> >
<snip>
>> >>

>> >> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
>> >> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
>> >> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
>> >> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about

>> >> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
>> >
>> >When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
>> >were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
>> >knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
>> >themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
>> >
>> >Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
>> >the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
>> >
>>
>> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm

>> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,


>> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>>
>> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>>

>> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,

>> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
>> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>>

>> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
>> uncaring sonofabitch?
>

>Twitch, I don't think you're uncaring. :) bear
>

My cat loves me too!

Paul Whitehead

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In article <Ewrv4...@world.std.com>, SPHINX Technologies
<sph...@world.std.com> writes

>
>Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
>animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
>to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>
Maybe he has learned his humour from alt.paranormal-crop.circles

>Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.

We all are there


>
>Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
>to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
>starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.

Ah, paranoia!


>
>Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
>uncaring sonofabitch?
>

We generally find that corn circle people are rather nice-ish if rather
silly at times, but ufo people are cynical bastards.

PHEW


--
Paul Whitehead

Lou Minatti

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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SPHINX Technologies wrote:
>
> In article <6pibd3$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
> <twi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
> >
> >>---- Begin Forwarded Message
> >> UFO ROUNDUP
> >> Volume 3, Number 30
> >> July 26, 1998
> >> Editor: Joseph Trainor
> >>
> >> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
> >> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
> >>
> >> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
> >> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
> >> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about
> >> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
> >
> >When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
> >were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
> >knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
> >themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
> >
> >Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
> >the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
> >
>
> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?

Personally, I find the idea that alien beings travel billions of miles
to molest our cattle VERY funny. I don't see how UFOology lore can top
that one for sheer wackiness.

--
spOOk Central!
http://www.concentric.net/~Slaroche/

Scott A. Munro

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On 28 Jul 1998 20:33:05 EDT, Lou Minatti <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
>Personally, I find the idea that alien beings travel billions of miles
>to molest our cattle VERY funny. I don't see how UFOology lore can top
>that one for sheer wackiness.

I understand some people will walk a mile for a camel.

-----
Scott A. Munro http://www.nextdim.com/users/smunro/
UFOs, Jack the Ripper, politics, fiction, art, etc.
Read more of my fiction at http://tale.com
Proud member, Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy™

Paul Whitehead

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Jul 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/29/98
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In article <35BE6C...@yahoo.com>, Lou Minatti <loumi...@yahoo.com>
writes

>Personally, I find the idea that alien beings travel billions of miles
>to molest our cattle VERY funny. I don't see how UFOology lore can top
>that one for sheer wackiness.
>
Who sez us ufo people aint whacky? But the corcn circle piple are
whackier.

Paul
--
Paul Whitehead

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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smu...@nextdim.com (Scott A. Munro) wrote:

>On 28 Jul 1998 20:33:05 EDT, Lou Minatti <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>

>>Personally, I find the idea that alien beings travel billions of miles
>>to molest our cattle VERY funny. I don't see how UFOology lore can top
>>that one for sheer wackiness.
>

>I understand some people will walk a mile for a camel.
>

Scott, that was truly horrible!

Congratulations and, god, I wish I'd said it!

Paul Whitehead

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In article <35be8349...@news.nextdim.com>, Scott A. Munro
<smu...@nextdim.com> writes

>On 28 Jul 1998 20:33:05 EDT, Lou Minatti <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Personally, I find the idea that alien beings travel billions of miles
>>to molest our cattle VERY funny. I don't see how UFOology lore can top
>>that one for sheer wackiness.
>
>I understand some people will walk a mile for a camel.
>
>-----
>Scott A. Munro

To mutilate it, or merely to set it on fire?

Paul
--
Paul Whitehead

Steven

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Jul 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/30/98
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> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>
> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>
> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>
> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
> uncaring sonofabitch?
>
> -John S.

Um... is it just me or does anybody else find the price of 10,000 dollars for
the loss of eight friggen cows just a tad much considering that 4 of said cows
weren't even born yet? Eh?
--

"We are like ants, trying to view reality with very limited perceptive
equipment and then basing our theologies and philosophies on what are
essentially misperceptions. The real problem is that there is a much larger
reality around us that we cannot see but only sense. While we grovel on our way
to the 21st Century, someone or some thing is watching with amusement...We are
biochemical robots helplessly conrolled by forces that can scramble our brains,
destroy our memories and use us in any way they see fit. They have been doing
it to us forever." -- John Keel.

"Um... yeah... suuurrrreeeee..." -- Me.

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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Steven <fied...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
>> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
>> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>>
>> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>>
>> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
>> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
>> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>>
>> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
>> uncaring sonofabitch?
>>
>> -John S.
>
> Um... is it just me or does anybody else find the price of 10,000 dollars for
>the loss of eight friggen cows just a tad much considering that 4 of said cows
>weren't even born yet? Eh?
>--

You have to realize that the Greys only use the best cows.

Steven

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twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> You have to realize that the Greys only use the best cows.
>
> If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
> little of robbing, and from robbing he comes next to drinking and
> Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
>
> Thomas De Quincey - Murder Considered as One of the Fine Arts

Oh I see... or maybe they were including the cost of having to clean it up and
somebody got really overbilled.

--
"Nobody really cares if you're miserable, so you might as well be happy." --
Cynthia Nelms

LEE STEVENS

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BECAUSE GREYS CAN ONLY EAT COWS THAT SPEAL ENGLISH

Jeremiah Lesley wrote:

> twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> >
> > Steven <fied...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
> > >> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
> > >> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
> > >>
> > >> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
> > >>
> > >> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
> > >> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
> > >> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
> > >>
> > >> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
> > >> uncaring sonofabitch?
> > >>
> > >> -John S.
> > >
> > > Um... is it just me or does anybody else find the price of 10,000 dollars for
> > >the loss of eight friggen cows just a tad much considering that 4 of said cows
> > >weren't even born yet? Eh?
> > >--

> > You have to realize that the Greys only use the best cows.
>

> Then why aren't they mutilating Kobe beef cattle?
>
> Chris Lesley
>


twi...@worldnet.att.net

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
to
Steven <fied...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>
>twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
>> You have to realize that the Greys only use the best cows.
>>

>> If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
>> little of robbing, and from robbing he comes next to drinking and
>> Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
>>
>> Thomas De Quincey - Murder Considered as One of the Fine Arts
>
>Oh I see... or maybe they were including the cost of having to clean it up and
>somebody got really overbilled.
>

Well, a gov't project I worked on paid if one of their
people hit a cow.

It is amazing how many of those scraggy, stringy animals
were prize winning ones.

At least if you believed the rancher.

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
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Jeremiah Lesley <jle...@gj.net> wrote:

>twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>>
>> Steven <fied...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
>> >> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
>> >> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>> >>
>> >> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>> >>
>> >> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like this,
>> >> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
>> >> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>> >>
>> >> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
>> >> uncaring sonofabitch?
>> >>
>> >> -John S.
>> >
>> > Um... is it just me or does anybody else find the price of 10,000 dollars for
>> >the loss of eight friggen cows just a tad much considering that 4 of said cows
>> >weren't even born yet? Eh?
>> >--

>> You have to realize that the Greys only use the best cows.
>

>Then why aren't they mutilating Kobe beef cattle?
>

Those cattle are protected by ninjas.

Harry Bosch

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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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Ninja cow butt guards? Really?

What will they think of next?

Harry
--
========================================
"No one really listens to anyone else,
and if you try it for a while you'll
see why." - Goethe
========================================

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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Aug 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/3/98
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Harry Bosch <har...@chatlink.com> wrote:

Hey, them cattle cost big bucks... er.. Yen.

Blue Resonant Human

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Those cattle are protected by ninjas.

That's probably why there are NO UFO's in Egypt. I mean, I know it
sounds crazy, but EVERY SINGLE WOMAN THERE IS DRESSED LIKE A NINJA!

What an absolutely brilliant deployment of the Scarecrow Stratagem.

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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Hmmm...

You know, Brother Blue, this idea is a lot better than any
of Max Headroom's and makes a lot more sense!

Paul Whitehead

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In article <35c72e11...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
twi...@worldnet.att.net writes

>dens...@cts.com.org.net (Blue Resonant Human) wrote:
>
>>twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>>
>>> Those cattle are protected by ninjas.
>>
>>That's probably why there are NO UFO's in Egypt. I mean, I know it
>>sounds crazy, but EVERY SINGLE WOMAN THERE IS DRESSED LIKE A NINJA!
>>
>>What an absolutely brilliant deployment of the Scarecrow Stratagem.
>>
>>
>Hmmm...
>
>You know, Brother Blue, this idea is a lot better than any
>of Max Headroom's and makes a lot more sense!
>
I don't want to make a link between wimmin and cows, but...
is this why both women and our four hoofed friends are being examined at
an intimate level by The Guys In Gray?

PHEW+

Josh Norton

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On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:29:11 +0100, Paul Whitehead
>>dens...@cts.com.org.net (Blue Resonant Human) wrote:
>>>That's probably why there are NO UFO's in Egypt. I mean, I know it
>>>sounds crazy, but EVERY SINGLE WOMAN THERE IS DRESSED LIKE A NINJA!
>>>
>>>What an absolutely brilliant deployment of the Scarecrow Stratagem.
>>
>I don't want to make a link between wimmin and cows, but...
>is this why both women and our four hoofed friends are being examined at
>an intimate level by The Guys In Gray?

What? Are the cows dressed as Ninjas too?

Josh


---------------------------
Josh Norton -- browe at one.net
Enochian magick at http://w3.one.net/~browe

Paul Whitehead

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In article <35c759a1...@news.one.net>, Josh Norton
<send...@here.org> writes

>On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:29:11 +0100, Paul Whitehead
>>>dens...@cts.com.org.net (Blue Resonant Human) wrote:
>>>>That's probably why there are NO UFO's in Egypt. I mean, I know it
>>>>sounds crazy, but EVERY SINGLE WOMAN THERE IS DRESSED LIKE A NINJA!
>>>>
>>>>What an absolutely brilliant deployment of the Scarecrow Stratagem.
>>>
>>I don't want to make a link between wimmin and cows, but...
>>is this why both women and our four hoofed friends are being examined at
>>an intimate level by The Guys In Gray?
>
>What? Are the cows dressed as Ninjas too?
>
>Josh
>
Euston, yes, we have a problem.

PHEW at Kings cross

Josh Norton

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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:30:59 +0100, Paul Whitehead
<weste...@western-pr.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>>
>Euston, yes, we have a problem.
>

Just trying to make your day a little more surreal.

Josh


I try to make everyone's day just a little bit more surreal.

Anonymous

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---- Begin Forwarded Message


Note for the UFOR Editor: Obtained from the NUFORC Web Site, where the
article is archived.

National UFO Reporting Center
Letter to Scientific American
December 18, 1886

NUFORC Home Page


_________________________________________________________________



Preface: One of the questions frequently asked in ufology is how long
the UFO phenomenon has been around. This letter-to-editor of
Scientific American, although proof of nothing, seems highly
suggestive of some of the more recent, and well-documented sightings,
e.g. the Cash-Landrum Case of December 29, l980, near Houston, Texas.
The letter was published in the December 18, 1886, issue of that
magazine.


_________________________________________________________________



CURIOUS PHENOMENON IN VENEZUELA

To the Editor of the Scientific American:

The following brief account of a recent strange meteorological
occurrence may be of interest to your readers as an addition to the
list of electrical eccentricities:

During the night of the 24th of October last, which was rainy and
tempestuous, a family of nine persons, sleeping in a hut a few leagues
from Maracaibo, were awakened by a loud humming noise and a vivid,
dazzling light, which brilliantly illuminated the interior of the
house.

The occupants completely terror stricken, and believing, as they
relate, that the end of the world had come, threw themselves on their
knees and commenced to pray, but their devotions were almost
immediately interrupted by violent vomitings, and extensive swellings
commenced to appear in the upper part of their bodies, this being
particularly noticeable about the face and lips.

It is to be noted that the brilliant lights was not accompanied by a
sensation of heat, although there was a smoky appearance and a
peculiar smell.

The next morning, the swellings had subsided, leaving upon the face
and body large black blotches. No special pain was felt until the
ninth day, when the skin peeled off, and these blotches were
transformed into virulent raw sores.

The hair of the head fell off upon the side which happened to be
underneath when the phenomenon occurred, the same side of the body
being , in all nine cases, the more seriously injured.

The remarkable part of the occurrence is that the house was uninjured,
all doors and windows being closed at the time.

No trace of lightning could afterward by observed in any part of the
building, and all the sufferers unite in saying that there was no
detonation, but only the loud humming already mentioned.

Another curious attendant circumstance is that the trees around the
house showed no signs of injury until the ninth day, when they
suddenly withered, almost simultaneously with the development of the
sores upon the bodies of the occupants of the house.

This is perhaps a mere coincidence, but it is remarkable that the same
susceptibility to electrical effects, with the same lapse of time,
should be observed in both animal and vegetable organisms.
I have visited the sufferers, who are now in one of the hospitals of
this city; and although their appearance is truly horrible, yet it is
hoped that in no case will the injuries prove fatal.

Warner Cowgill.
U. S. Consulate,
Maracaibo, Venezuela
November 17, 1886


-> Send "subscribe iufo " to majo...@world.std.com
-> Posted by: Francisco Lopez <d005...@dc.seflin.org>

Paul Whitehead

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In article <35c8b000...@news.one.net>, Josh Norton
<send...@here.org> writes

>On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:30:59 +0100, Paul Whitehead
><weste...@western-pr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>Euston, yes, we have a problem.
>>
>
>Just trying to make your day a little more surreal.
>
>Josh
>

>Euston, yes, we have a problem.

I nicked this joke from a joke in a British satirical magazine, Private
Eye. It's based on the fact that British trains don't run well when
there are leaves on the lines. In the cartoon, a train company employee
is speaking anxiously into his mobile, while looking at a single leaf on
the track: 'Euston, we have a problem,' he says.

Euston is a station in London. It also sound like Houston.

Hence the famous line fom Apollo 13 or Gemini 11 or whatever it was:
'Houston, we have a problem.'

Paul
:-}
--
Paul Whitehead

Anonymous

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---- Begin Forwarded Message
-----Original Message-----
From: gerry [mailto:e...@farshore.force9.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 12:28 PM
To: Skywatch International
Subject: Close Encounter of 1923


Source: Evansville Courier (Indiana, USA)
Date: Aug 12 1998
Header:Close encounter
Sub-header: Illinois man convinced he saw a UFO 75 years ago
Byline: Len Wells

MOUNT ERIE, Ill. — It's been 75 years since Norman Massie led a team
of horses into a pasture near his Mount Erie home, looked up and saw
what he is convinced to this day was a spaceship.

"You can call me anything you want, but I know in my heart and in my
mind what I saw that evening, and it was some kind of spaceship,"
Massie said.

Massie, 85, was 10 years old when he encountered the object. The
retired high school math teacher and coach says he kept quiet about
the incident until 1990 because his father told him never to breathe
a word about what he saw because "people would talk."

Massie's UFO sighting happened in June 1923 on the family farm in
northern Wayne County.

"I opened the gate to let the horses into the pasture. I let them
through, and as I was closing the gate I looked back down the field
and there was an object with lights all around it," Massie said.

"I kept walking closer to the object until I got about 50 feet away.
I stood there and watched the five men who were on board."

Massie described the men as being about 4* feet tall with blond hair.
"I got close enough that I could hear them talk," Massie said. "One
guy sat in a chair and the others called him the commander. Four
others made trips back and forth in the ship. I didn't know what was
going on until the end."

Massie claims he heard one of the crew members tell his commander
that "the repairs had been made."

"The machine was metallic and stood on three legs. The top was a dome
with holes in it. The best way I could describe the top was it looked
like melted glass," Massie said.

The encounter lasted only about five minutes, Massie said. "In a
minute, it came to a hovering position. The tripod legs telescoped up
into the belly of the thing, and it went straight up about 200 feet
and whizzed off to the west like a bullet," he said.

Startled by what he saw, Massie says he ran home and told his
parents, Grover and Laura Massie, and his 8-year-old brother,
Lyveere.

"Mom and Dad tried to convince me that I really hadn't seen anything,
and was making up the whole thing," he said.

He says his dad announced he wanted no member of his family
mentioning the incident to anyone because they might think Norman was
"crazy in the head, or an idiot."

Massie broke his silence on the matter in 1990 when he told his son,
Jerry, who was a colonel in the Air Force at the time.

"When I got done telling him the whole story he told me there was
nothing wrong with me, that the Air Force files are full of pictures
of UFOs. He accepted my story as the truth."

Massie says he's convinced the object had to come from somewhere
other than Earth. "It doesn't bother me one bit that people might
think I'm a crazy old man. In my own mind and my own heart, it
existed and I saw it with my own two eyes."

-- end --
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > Gerry Lovell / Far Shores |http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


twi...@worldnet.att.net

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bear <int...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>SPHINX Technologies wrote:
>
>> In article <6pibd3$o...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
>> <twi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>---- Begin Forwarded Message
>> >> UFO ROUNDUP
>> >> Volume 3, Number 30
>> >> July 26, 1998
>> >> Editor: Joseph Trainor
>> >>
>> >> FOUR CATTLE MUTILATED
>> >> NEAR ST. JOHNS, ARIZONA
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
>> >> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
>> >> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about
>> >> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
>> >
>> >When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
>> >were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
>> >knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
>> >themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
>> >
>> >Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
>> >the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
>> >
>>

>> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
>> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
>> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>>
>> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>>

<snip>

Why thank you, John!


>
>Twitch, I don't think you're uncaring. :) bear
>

Well, I'd care for one of them hamburgers right about now!

I wonder why this reappeared today with today's date on it?

bear

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twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it was lost like a sock in the dryer
and mysteriously turned up. bear

Anonymous

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Aug 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/19/98
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---- Begin Forwarded Message

CAUS has just received another report on the triangular UFO seen and
videotaped in France. This report is from Mary Turner (ma...@southwind.net):

I just read this in tomorrow's (Friday) edition of the Télégramme
newspaper in Brest, France. I did a quick translation for you, the
original article in French can be read at:

http://www.bretagne-
online.tm.fr:80/telegram/htdocs/archive/1998/19980814/article/4191418.htm

A triangular UFO has overflown the Ardennes region

An unidentified flying object (UFO) of triangular form moving at a low
altitude over the region of Sedan and of Carignan (in the Ardennes
region of France) was observed by at least 150 people at the beginning
of the week, said the French Center for UFO Studies official in charge
of the region (département).

Reconnaissance patrol

"On the night of Monday to Tuesday, it was first noticed at a high
altitude and then vertically descending from Charleville-Mézières,
before making a sort of reconnaisance patrol over some thirty locales
around Sedan", he indicated.

"We have a short film made that night by two young amateur
videographers", he clarified. "The craft, a large triangle with rounded
edges, with a point turned in the direction of flight, had two red
points of light at the rear and a large white one at the front. These
lights did not blink. Two vapor trails were visible at the rear of the
UFO flying at some 500 meters in altitude", he added.

"It turned slowly above the inhabited zones as if on a spy mission, then
moved on before recommencing its spinning above another locality. I
finally disappeared behind a hill and has not been seen since", he
added.

A strange muffled sound

According to him, it could not have been a spy plane, because of its
circular motion at low altitude, not a meteorite because its flight was
horizontal, nor a comet much higher at a fixed position in the sky, nor
a helicopter or a known aircraft because of the muffled sound which was
sufficiently strange to excite the curiosity of numerous persons.

CAUS thanks all its members who have contributed to the CAUS. We must remain
alert...we must continually be vigil....and we must always....watch the slies!

Peter A. Gersten, Executive Director

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Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:

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>
>CAUS thanks all its members who have contributed to the CAUS. We must remain
>alert...we must continually be vigil....and we must always....watch the slies!
>
>Peter A. Gersten, Executive Director
>

Has Gersten dropped the plan that I heard he had formed to
launch a private rocket to the Moon to look for the Shard,
etc. reported by Hoagland?

<snip>

Mike

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Some people are truly MORONS.....


Brian RA Sterling wrote in message <6pj7sc$8...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...


>
>>>> On Monday, July 20, 1998, four cows were found
>>>> mutilated on a ranch near St. Johns, Arizona
>>>> (population 3294), a town on Highway 191 about
>>>> 135 miles (216 kilometers) east of Flagstaff. <snip.
>>>
>>>When the Sheriff asked a group of small grey tourists who
>>>were holding a bar-b-que 136 miles from Flagstaff if they
>>>knew anything, the Greys said that they were strangers here
>>>themselves and offered the Sheriff a hamburger.
>>>
>>>Anyone with information leading to the culprits can contact
>>>the Sheriff's office after he returns from the cook-out.
>>>
>>
>> Do you really find the mutilation and destruction of helpless farm
>> animals funny? Or the destruction of a business person's property,
>> to the tune of $10,000, if you prefer to put it that way?
>>
>> Gee, you're a REAL nice guy, twitch.
>>

>> Or maybe you're just paid to carry on with the ridicule in cases like
this,
>> to deflect people from actually THINKING about what was reported, and
>> starting to wonder what in the Heck is going on.
>>
>> Which is it, twitch? Are you a paid DI agent, or just an immoral,
>> uncaring sonofabitch?
>>
>> -John S.
>

>John, he is most likely just that, an immoral uncaring sonofabitch cause
>either way to write what he writes, he would have to be that, even IF he
>was getting paid to spread lies.
>
>Just my .02 $
>
>
>--
>*Remember your future*
>Hollywood is disinformation
>CNN is misinformation
>Entertainment Tonight is the truth
>.

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