(UFC)First MMA Death Soon?
Araxen
him now right now. It'd be a really good idea to send some prayers his
way. We couldn't get any specific news about any possible injuries, but
he's going to need some good thoughts headed his way. I'll let you know
once I hear anything more. The best thing we can do right now is to stay
patient and think positive thoughts. -UFCjunkie
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ONM
Yes please keep us updated on this if you have some type of
connection...I'm sure everyone's prayers are with him also bro.
On Jan 25, 11:32 pm, Araxen <ara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ***UPDATE -- 11:05 p.m.: Folks, Sean's family is at the hospital with
> him now right now. It'd be a really good idea to send some prayers his
> way. We couldn't get any specific news about any possible injuries, but
> he's going to need some good thoughts headed his way. I'll let you know
> once I hear anything more. The best thing we can do right now is to stay
> patient and think positive thoughts. -UFCjunkie
>
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Bill Ricardi
On 26 Jan, 04:32, Araxen <ara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ***UPDATE -- 11:05 p.m.: Folks, Sean's family is at the hospital with
> him now right now. It'd be a really good idea to send some prayers his
> way. We couldn't get any specific news about any possible injuries, but
> he's going to need some good thoughts headed his way. I'll let you know
> once I hear anything more. The best thing we can do right now is to stay
> patient and think positive thoughts. -UFCjunkie
Certainly doesn't sound good. This is Sean Salmon by the way, for those
not following the story. Send him some good karma.
Stoneco864
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Sean Salmon update
by Dave Meltzer
UFC officials reported after tonight's Ultimate Fight Night show in
Hollywood, FL, that Sean Salmon was okay.
Salmon suffered a devastating knockout from a kick to the head by
Rashad Evans in the main event of the show.
It was a scary looking situation, as Salmon didn't move for
approximately seven minutes in the ring, nor as he was carried out on a
stretcher. They went off the air without acknowledging the extent of
the knockout. Evans, in his post-match interview, only indicated being
uncomfortable that Salmon was down and not moving. They never shot near
where Salmon was, so the television viewers would not have known the
seriousness of the situation.
He was rushed to a local hospital where it was reported that he was
conscious and talking, and seemed to be fine.
ONM
no? Rashad looked so worried when they announced the win.
Does anyone know why you go stiff when you get knocked out? I noticed
Randy was pretty stiff after he got knocked out by Chuck...and in that
case Randy got hit while he was knocked out a few times also. Could it
be that you go stiff like that when you get hit after you are out
already?
On Jan 25, 11:52 pm, "Bill Ricardi" <billrica...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> On 26 Jan, 04:32, Araxen <ara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ***UPDATE -- 11:05 p.m.: Folks, Sean's family is at the hospital with
> > him now right now. It'd be a really good idea to send some prayers his
> > way. We couldn't get any specific news about any possible injuries, but
> > he's going to need some good thoughts headed his way. I'll let you know
> > once I hear anything more. The best thing we can do right now is to stay
> > patient and think positive thoughts. -UFCjunkieCertainly doesn't sound good. This is Sean Salmon by the way, for those
Bill Ricardi
On 26 Jan, 05:02, "ONM" <nickmorab...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dam this really sucks...I think the ref was a little slow jumping in
> no? Rashad looked so worried when they announced the win.
Fans are coming to realize that they can't have it both ways. There's
no such thing as a perfect stoppage. Anyone who complains about early
stoppages, please replay any given KO that is followed by fists
pounding into the face of the comatose fighter over and over and...
theoriginaldimi
On 26 jan, 05:32, Araxen <ara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ***UPDATE -- 11:05 p.m.: Folks, Sean's family is at the hospital with
> him now right now. It'd be a really good idea to send some prayers his
> way. We couldn't get any specific news about any possible injuries, but
> he's going to need some good thoughts headed his way. I'll let you know
> once I hear anything more. The best thing we can do right now is to stay
> patient and think positive thoughts. -UFCjunkie
>
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There was already at least one death in MMA. Some american guy, can't
remember his name, received some blunt force trauma to the head after a
russian guy punched it repeatedly before a ref broke them up. Happened
in AFC iirc, somewhere in the 90's
D.
Kris
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> Dam this really sucks...I think the ref was a little slow jumping in
> no? Rashad looked so worried when they announced the win.
>
> Does anyone know why you go stiff when you get knocked out? I noticed
> Randy was pretty stiff after he got knocked out by Chuck...and in that
> case Randy got hit while he was knocked out a few times also. Could it
> be that you go stiff like that when you get hit after you are out
> already?
>
Oh come on.
From the time that kick landed, to the time the ref stepped in, how much
time ellapsed? 2-3 seconds? Maybe 4?
About the same amount of time required for the ref to see Salmon was in
trouble and close the distance between himself and Rashad to pull Rashad
off.
The only way that could have been stopped sooner was if the ref either knew
the kick was coming and was ready to break it up beforehand, or if he'd been
standing right beside the fighters (risking getting KTFO himself).
Sure, it's not nice seeing a guy get smacked a couple times after he's out,
but that's part of the game. You fight till the ref tells you to stop.
Besides, Rashad knew Salmon was out, he didn't lay 3-4 huge haymakers on
him, just gave him a couple shots until the ref had time to break it up.
Rashad never laid the shit down on his KTFO opponent like some others are
prone to do. *coughWandycough*
I've been more and more impressed with how Rashad handles himself both in
the ring and out. However, Chuck would still tear him apart.
Kris
Michael
Michael
rollman
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firstdanwtf
On Jan 26, 1:00 pm, "rollman" <rolli...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> wouldn't suprise me.. those guys are balistic in their MMA...
>
> "Michael" <thissp...@for.rent> wrote in messagenews:z9ruh.1313$sX6....@newsfe05.lga...
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> > Wasn't there a death in a Russian MMA show some years back?
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I attended a kickboxing /karate point fighting/aikido demo show just a
few years ago. Every year they would promote this show but I never did
attend, but always wanted to.The main fight was a kickboxing match
between a local title holder and a Canadian that took the fight on a
weeks notice. I still have the program from the show that has the
original fighters picture; no mention of the Canadian. The fight was
very good and the local fighter was fairing well. Both could take a
punch and both had heart. The Canadian got rocked and was out on his
feet. I rooted for the local fighter and shouted from the front row
that he was out on his feet. The ref stop the fight and carried the
Canadian to his corner. He wanted the guys gloves to be tied! I
continued to complain from the front row as this took ten min to
complete since the guy was out on his feet. By the time this fiasco was
completed, the guy had somewhat recovered. They continued to fight very
hard for at least another round before the Canadian was knocked out. He
seemed to recover fine after the knockout and we all cheered for him
because he showed so much heart. A spectacular fight! The next day in
the news we found out that after returning to his motel room he started
not feeling well. He ended up going into a coma and died in less than a
week. The promoter decided to stop the anual event and has not had a
show/fight ever since. This is what came to my mind last night as I
watched him go out.
Its know ones fault in this fight, the kick is what did the damage and
thats all there is. Its good to hear he is awake and talking
Jag
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ONM
On Jan 26, 12:56 am, "Bill Ricardi" <billrica...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> On 26 Jan, 05:02, "ONM" <nickmorab...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dam this really sucks...I think the ref was a little slow jumping in
> > no? Rashad looked so worried when they announced the win.Fans are coming to realize that they can't have it both ways. There's
ONM
not an urban legend....but it was a non-sanctioned event from what I
know.
That is why the death isn't recorded as a MMA death.
ONM
other day and I thought I was going to be sick watching some guy after
a standing eight count become a heavybag for his opponenet to tee off
on.
On Jan 26, 5:30 pm, "firstdanwtf" <firstdan...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 1:00?pm, "rollman" <rolli...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > wouldn't suprise me.. those guys are balistic in their MMA...
>
> > "Michael" <thissp...@for.rent> wrote in messagenews:z9ruh.1313$sX6....@newsfe05.lga...
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> > > Wasn't there a death in a Russian MMA show some years back?
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> > > Michael- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -I attended a kickboxing /karate point fighting/aikido demo show just a
rollman
UFC 1.. guys are just getting absolutely smashed up and keep going...
no wonder Feder is such a tough bastard..
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Stirgy
footage for future promotions/commercials...
I would hope not...
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rollman
he'd be looking to put it behind him as quickly as possible..
"Stirgy" <pezo...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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firstdanwtf
> he wouln't.. but not due to any moral obligations...
>
> he'd be looking to put it behind him as quickly as possible..
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> >I wonder if Salmon did die, if Dana White would still use that knock out
> >footage for future promotions/commercials...
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> > I would hope not...
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> > "Araxen" <ara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> ***UPDATE -- 11:05 p.m.: Folks, Sean's family is at the hospital with him
> >> now right now. It'd be a really good idea to send some prayers his way.
> >> We couldn't get any specific news about any possible injuries, but he's
> >> going to need some good thoughts headed his way. I'll let you know once I
> >> hear anything more. The best thing we can do right now is to stay patient
> >> and think positive thoughts. -UFCjunkie
>
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I have not heard, is he OK?
Bill Ricardi
> I have not heard, is he OK?
They announced that he wasn't in any immediate danger and was
recovering. But the long term effects, if any, are still being
monitored. But short term, he plans to fight again. Here's his
statement:
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This post is for all the fans that have read my blogs all the way
through and/or sent me messages (emails/MySpace/or comments on this
site): THANK YOU. Your messages of "well wishing" have made this
easier to deal with.
I watched the fight, first chance I got, when I returned home from
Florida. My thoughts on the fight, after watching it: I made several
mistakes. I don't believe that I had "first-time" UFC jitters. I was
ready to go and felt mentally prepared. I was not any more nervous for
that fight than my previous 10.
My biggest mistake: letting him out of side control. I am better than
that. I consider side control the end of a fight. I was anxious to be
impressive, and he was quick to get out. Also, I did not press the
pace of the fight. I should have been forcing the clinch and scoring
takedowns to win. I did not do that. I did look gassed half way
through the first; some things happened that were out of my control,
but I will not make excuses.
Despite my mistakes, I feel I won the first round.
Going into the second, he made adjustments and I didn't. I was tired
and lazy and he was prepared for battle. There is not much I can say
about that kick. It was timed perfectly and on point.
That is the great thing about fighting: someone can be winning and
someone else can win. Trust me, there is not such thing as a lucky
kick or punch. Rashad is a skilled athlete and won.
I do feel that I showed I belonged there and can rise to the top of
the UFC. Time will tell.
Thank you to the fans that have been behind me and the ones who just
got behind me. It is not going unnoticed. I love your letters of
support.
The bottom line is this: Rashad won (he was the better fighter), but I
did not show my potential. I am better than advertised. STAY TUNED FOR
THE NEXT LEVEL.
Goodnight from Ohio,
Sean
bob from oz
> Does anyone know why you go stiff when you get knocked out? I noticed
> Randy was pretty stiff after he got knocked out by Chuck...and in that
> case Randy got hit while he was knocked out a few times also. Could it
> be that you go stiff like that when you get hit after you are out
> already?
it's basically a seizure/epileptiform event, where the brain is
completely scattered for a small(*) amount of time. it's not unknown of
fighters/accident victims to actively "fit" as in tonic-clonic
(grand-mal) seizure for an amount of time after a head injury. i read
somewhere once that every knockout like this one provides a certain
amount of unrecoverable brain (cellular) damage, and that's why there
are quite a few opponents to unprotected head hits in sports amongst
medicos. (that sentence doesn't make sense :-)
bob
(*) some Aussies may remember a head clash in the AFL years ago in
Sydney between Richard Osborne and Dale Lewis where Richard Osborne was
unconscious and fitting for 7 minutes. the docs had a shitty time
getting an IV into Richard to stop the seizure. it was quite disturbing
to watch a man convulse for that amount of time. After this event,
Osborne came back to the game weeks later wearing a helmet for the
remainder of his career.