The guy who beat Andy Anderson in ufc 1.
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Who was the 6' 7'' guy who beat any anderson in ufc 1 and why did he quit
fighting, he looked relatively well skilled? pwd...@widomaker.com
Robert Campbell
internet (pwd...@widomaker.com) wrote:
> Who was the 6' 7'' guy who beat any anderson in ufc 1 and why did he quit
> fighting, he looked relatively well skilled? pwd...@widomaker.com
Andy Anderson did not fight in UFC I, he fought in a later UFC (V or VI?).
He also refereed a current NHB even (MARS?). Boy my memory is shot on
those two. Anyways, the guy that he fought was Jon Hess. Claimed that he
was SAFTA practitioner (Strategic, Agressive Fighting Technique, or
something like that). HE came in to the UFC bragging about how people who
tapped were wimps and shouldn't be in NHB. He proceeded to pound on Andy
if a haphazard, and IMHO, unskilled manner. He dropped out after the
first round victory claiming an injured hand. Many people at that time
thought that he was being very hypocritical.
He also fought Vitor Belfort in a Hawaiian NHB tournament (can't remember
the name, there have been like 4 of them, name has changed). Apparently,
Vitor pummelled him pretty quick.
This is the way I rembember it, I may be off, been a while.
Hope it helps
Robert Campbell
AppleBomb
It was UFC 5. The guy's name was Jon Hess.
Vitor Belfort KO'ed him in Hawaii in like 18 seconds.
Robert Savage
Hess looked like a huge 7 year old fighting. He looked very unskilled and
awkward. Tank would take him apart in about 25 seconds, IMO.
Robert Campbell wrote in message <667l0v$m...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>...
>internet (pwd...@widomaker.com) wrote:
>> Who was the 6' 7'' guy who beat any anderson in ufc 1 and why did he
quit
>> fighting, he looked relatively well skilled? pwd...@widomaker.com
>
>
James Shelledy, III
There was a SAFTA school near my place a while back. The place closed
before you could blink an eye.
JRS
Robert Campbell
> JRS
Who is the US Navy SEAL that has a whole bunch of SAFTA stuff. He is
apparently the founder of the style and now how has a plethora of videos
on it?
Robert Campbell
James Shelledy, III
I'm not sure who the founder of SAFTA is. And if he was a Navy Seal,
big deal. I've sparred w/ some Navy Seals and they're fighting skills
are fairly limited. They can swim and run forever, though. BTW, the
SAFTA school I was talking about was run by John Hess himself.
JRS
Robert Campbell
> big deal. I've sparred w/ some Navy Seals and they're fighting skills
> are fairly limited. They can swim and run forever, though.
Sure, but put an MP-5 in their hands...
Robert Campbell
James Shelledy, III
Put an MP-5 in anybody's hands, and I'll be one obedient son-of-a-bitch.
JRS
TonyC41877
Believe it or not John "I'm here to break people" Hess is a stockbroker in
*real life*.
Unfortunately for him, Vitor Gracie was one "stock" he couldn't "break". ;-)
DRCOCA
His name is Jon Hess.
He is still fighting.
He lost to Belfort in Hawaii.
Robb
He was John Hess.
He claimed to fight some bullshit style called "Scientifically Applied
Fighting Techniques of America" or some crap. He looked like trash.
Terrible physical condition, poor techinque on all corners (poor
striking technique, etc). He repeatedly eye gouged and tried Anderson.
If you listen to the ref, McCarthy repeatedly was threatening to DQ him
if he kept biting and stuff. After his "win", he supposedly pulled out
the tournament for an injured hand. But, lots of people say that
injured hand was total bullshit. One group of thought at the time, was
that the UFC officials kicking him out of the event for biting and
stuff, but allowed him to save face by saying his hand was injured.
The other train of thought, was that he pulled out of the tourny out of
fear. A big badass black dude (I think it was Joe Charles) went up to
Hess after his fight and told him "You better pray you dont have to
fight me, cause Im gonna bite one of your fingers off".
So, he might have withdrawn for fear of what would happen to him, given
his poor sportsmanship he showed, and his rule breaking...
Afterwards, it comes out that Hess really studies San Soo Kung Foo, and
San Soo is known for its teaching of eye gouging and biting and other
"cheap" fighting techniques.
Whats really funny about Hess, is that he used to brag that tapping was
"for wimps" or something similar... but a year ago, Hess fought Vitor
Belfort in Belfort's first pro NHB fight. Belfort beat the piss out of
Hess in an extremely quick match. It was great.
Another funny thing... Hess was gonna come back to the UFC about a year
ago or something... all that fell through when Hess started demaning
money up front, in addition to a percentage of the PPV buy. hahaha
Like he's fucking Rickson Gracie or something.. heheh
Hess, what a wuss
-Robb
Robert Campbell
Robb (ro...@mci2000.com) wrote:
> He was John Hess.
> He claimed to fight some bullshit style called "Scientifically Applied
> Fighting Techniques of America" or some crap.
Why trash the style because of one fighter? The style may be very
effective (don't know). Is Pentak Silat, or Ninjitsu, or Shotokan a
"crap" style just because their practitioners LOST (unlike Hess who did
win, albeit, unimpressively) in short-order?
<snipped bunch about eye gouging and biting)
> Afterwards, it comes out that Hess really studies San Soo Kung Foo, and
> San Soo is known for its teaching of eye gouging and biting and other
> "cheap" fighting techniques.
You knock SAFTA and then say he is not a practioner of it??? Come on Robb
that is hardly a fair or intelligent conclusion.
Too bad too, because the rest was quite interesting, didn't know about Joe
charles (or whoever). That made me smile
Just my thoughts
Robert Campbell
Ansalander
Who was(were) the Pentjak Silat practicioner(s)? Do you remember which
event? I would like to see that one even if the fighter wasn't that good.
Ans
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Robert Campbell
Ansalander (ansal...@mindspring.com) wrote:
> Who was(were) the Pentjak Silat practicioner(s)? Do you remember which
> event? I would like to see that one even if the fighter wasn't that good.
> Ans
It was in UFC 2 in the first round. It was the 16 man tournament and on
the rental video they do not show the fight. However, it was shown on the
"Ultimate New Years Eve." to be honest I have not seen that fight. I was
trying to illustrate a point. The fighter was not in any other or further
in that UFC.
Hope that helps.
Robert Campbell
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some guy with a pony tail and a nasty look on his face nicknamed the
lion. well.. the lion got the piss knocked out of him by remco.
Ansalander wrote:
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> Who was(were) the Pentjak Silat practicioner(s)? Do you remember which
> event? I would like to see that one even if the fighter wasn't that good.
> Ans
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