Okay, what was with the waterbed?
Nick Preston
significance of Scully bringing it up and Mulder not knowing where he got
it (a gift?!)???
Nick
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"Inconsistancy is the only constant."
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Pangaeus
strange reason when the big switcheroo "snapped" back, Mulder's apartement and
the imbedded penny and dime didn't switch back. At the end of the episode,
you hear a sqiush- of the waterbed-then Mulder opens his apartment door and
makes sure he is in the right number. So Mulder doesn't know where it came
from either- hence "maybe it was a gift"
Katsy1121
maybe he thought it was from Scully..and when she asked him when he got himself
a waterbed, he looked at her funny cos u know..if she didnt send it..then who
did?
^ ^
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spygirl
Nick Preston <pre...@dreamscape.com> wrote in article
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> Was it a waterbed in "Dreamland II"? I forget.
Sure was, mirror, cd racks and all the remains of Morris. I LOL and loved
the references!
> What was the
> significance of Scully bringing it up and Mulder not knowing where he got
> it (a gift?!)???
Back in Dreamland II, Scully was surprised that Mulder even had a bedroom
let alone a water bed. Remember when Morris said: "....you don't like it,
do you?". So after the time-warp continuum rubber band snap back everthing
like it was before (whew.....that was alot to spit out!), Mulder,
technically, should not have a usable bedroom with all the trappings. But
he did, he even checked to make sure he was in the right apartment. I'm
surprised he didn't turn it into an X-File. I'd be a little freaked to
come home and find new fluff in my home. I'm wondering if Scully still has
her fused together dime and penny?
Spy Girl
spygirl
c7c0...@users.realize.com
> I'm wondering if Scully still has
> her fused together dime and penny?
>
> Spy Girl
I can't remember... did she have the fused coins with her when things
snapped back to normal? Remember, any of the fused objects reverted only
if they were in the same approximate area when the phenomenon reversed.
What has always bothered me about Dreamland was the gas station, though.
The guy should have unfused with the floor, but according to the pattern
established the damage would still be done, right? Shouldn't we have
ended up with a burned gas station and a corpse lying on (as opposed to
embedded in) the floor?
JH
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SatyrCane
memories were ersased at the end of that episode......niether know or remember
how Mulder got a waterbed.
CMSpurple
>you hear a sqiush- of the waterbed-then Mulder opens his apartment door and
>makes sure he is in the right number. So Mulder doesn't know where it came
Yeah,but wouldn't it show up on his credit card when the other guy charged
it.Or MAYBE the credit cd charges disappeared with the memories etc,that would
be cool huh?? I wish I could charge some stuff during a warp in the time space
continum.
Catherine
welcome to the velvet cage
Teddi Litman
cmsp...@aol.com (CMSpurple) wrote:
> I wish I could charge some stuff during a warp in the time space
>continum.
>
Be careful what you wish for. As this episode clearly shows, items charged
during a warp in the time space continum result in buldings getting blown up
with you in them ... over and over again!<G>
Teddi
Sarah E. Aalderink
wrote:
> Was it a waterbed in "Dreamland II"? I forget. What was the
>significance of Scully bringing it up and Mulder not knowing where he got
>it (a gift?!)???
>
All of those memories were erased when the time warp snapped itself
back.
My question is why does the waterbed spew like it's got pressure on
it? In the loops where Mulder is still sitting on the edge of the bed,
this makes sense but once he's gotten on the floor the presure should
be relieved and it should stop squirting water all over the room.
Granted, that doesn't stop leaks to the floor from the frame of the
bed but that shooting stream of water was the most irritating nit for
me.
Lt.Colonel Lady Sally out.
CO, 5th Business, X-Ville, alt.tv.x-files.x-ville
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"Proportional or fixed pitch?" - Stacey O.
Dayna Ann Terry
*Dream*land, and then...(I'm going to hell for it..) are you *sure* that
the waterbed had sprung a leak? ;) He may have just been thinking of some
little redhead......
Dayna
On 1 Mar 1999, Nick Preston wrote:
> Was it a waterbed in "Dreamland II"? I forget. What was the
> significance of Scully bringing it up and Mulder not knowing where he got
> it (a gift?!)???
>
> Nick
>
> --
> "Inconsistancy is the only constant."
> -Nick Preston
>
>
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>
> Was it a waterbed in "Dreamland II"? I forget. What was the
>significance of Scully bringing it up and Mulder not knowing where he got
>it (a gift?!)???
>
Yeah, I believe it was a waterbed, and the significance is that Real!Mulder
wasn't the guy on the waterbed in DLII. FakE!Mulder was the one who got the
waterbed.
VerlindaH
Debra Reynolds
Nick Preston wrote:
> Was it a waterbed in "Dreamland II"? I forget. What was the
> significance of Scully bringing it up and Mulder not knowing where he got
> it (a gift?!)???
>
Continuity.
DebR
Debra Reynolds
VerlindaH wrote:
> Yeah, I believe it was a waterbed, and the significance is that Real!Mulder
> wasn't the guy on the waterbed in DLII. FakE!Mulder was the one who got the
> waterbed.
The fact that Mulder didn't attempt to elaborate to Scully about the origins of
his waterbed hammers home (at least, to me) that "Dreamland" was real. Perhaps
time is still changing, adjusting and that's why M&S found themselves in yet
another situation where time is significantly screwed up. Counting "Triangle",
that makes three this year (for Mulder, anyway). Maybe at the end of this
season we will find ourselves right back where or rather *when* we started,
oddly enough at "The Beginning". It could happen.
DebR
flannel fish
Debra Reynolds wrote in message <36DF5C79...@ix.netcom.com>...
Oh Lord, I hope not! These time warps and wrinkles and temporal causality
loops are making me dizzy, not to mention uneasy. If there's another shower
scene this season, I'll be expecting Patrick Duffy.
*******************
Sandra (The Flannel Fish)
*******************
Frasier: What's the one thing better than an exquisite meal? An exquisite
meal with one tiny flaw we can pick at all evening.
Niles: Quite right! To impossible standards!
Debra Reynolds
flannel fish wrote:
> Debra Reynolds wrote in message <36DF5C79...@ix.netcom.com>...
> >
> >
> >VerlindaH wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, I believe it was a waterbed, and the significance is that
> Real!Mulder
> >> wasn't the guy on the waterbed in DLII. FakE!Mulder was the one who got
> the
> >> waterbed.
> >
> >The fact that Mulder didn't attempt to elaborate to Scully about the
> origins of
> >his waterbed hammers home (at least, to me) that "Dreamland" was real.
> Perhaps
> >time is still changing, adjusting and that's why M&S found themselves in
> yet
> >another situation where time is significantly screwed up. Counting
> "Triangle",
> >that makes three this year (for Mulder, anyway). Maybe at the end of this
> >season we will find ourselves right back where or rather *when* we started,
> >oddly enough at "The Beginning". It could happen.
> >
> >DebR
> >
>
> Oh Lord, I hope not! These time warps and wrinkles and temporal causality
> loops are making me dizzy, not to mention uneasy. If there's another shower
> scene this season, I'll be expecting Patrick Duffy.
>
I know, I know! But, I can't help but wonder if that isn't where we're all
headed. Why else all this fooling around with time? One episode is
understandable. But three in less than a season is a pattern forming.
Someone suggested (it may have been Autumn) that an episode showing what life
would have been like for Mulder and Scully had they never met could be in the
offing based on Mulder's observations in "Monday". Wouldn't that be yet another
example of time slippage should it occur? I admit it's scary to consider but
this year's timeline may actually be unraveling.
For those of us who haven't been pleased, *that* may be considered a blessing.
;-)
DebR
flannel fish
Debra Reynolds wrote in message <36DF641F...@ix.netcom.com>...
causality
>> loops are making me dizzy, not to mention uneasy. If there's another
shower
>> scene this season, I'll be expecting Patrick Duffy.
>>
>
>I know, I know! But, I can't help but wonder if that isn't where we're all
>headed. Why else all this fooling around with time? One episode is
>understandable. But three in less than a season is a pattern forming.
>
>Someone suggested (it may have been Autumn) that an episode showing what
life
>would have been like for Mulder and Scully had they never met could be in
the
>offing based on Mulder's observations in "Monday". Wouldn't that be yet
another
>example of time slippage should it occur? I admit it's scary to consider
but
>this year's timeline may actually be unraveling.
>
>For those of us who haven't been pleased, *that* may be considered a
blessing.
>;-)
>
>DebR
>
Building locked in a snowglobe on the nightstand of the straightjacketed
Mulder, catatonic since the mysterious disappearance of his eight-year-old
sister in November of 1973. He is of course under the watchful eye of the
enigmatic Dr. Scully. His fellow inmates all look, well, vaguely familiar.
On the other hand, there's also the "Newhart" ending. Mulder wakes up in a
king-sized, and suspiciously plaid bed next to a sleepy-eyed Diana Fowley.
At which point he turns to her and says "Diana, you know you really ought to
think about dying your hair red."
Okay!! I'm sorry I said it. But I'm just a human being! (or words to that
effect)
Sharon Brearey
fondly).
I was disappointed with *that* ending, because I wondered how the
writers could possibly know what went on in an autistic child's mind.
Since I'm not a writer OR a doctor, I wouldn't venture to guess.
Please, CC, don't give us a "St. Elsewhere Meets Dallas" ending!
---
Sharon B. in Philly
Debra Reynolds
flannel fish wrote:
> My other thought was the "St. Elsewhere" ending. The J. Edgar Hoover
> Building locked in a snowglobe on the nightstand of the straightjacketed
> Mulder, catatonic since the mysterious disappearance of his eight-year-old
> sister in November of 1973. He is of course under the watchful eye of the
> enigmatic Dr. Scully. His fellow inmates all look, well, vaguely familiar.
>
> On the other hand, there's also the "Newhart" ending. Mulder wakes up in a
> king-sized, and suspiciously plaid bed next to a sleepy-eyed Diana Fowley.
> At which point he turns to her and says "Diana, you know you really ought to
> think about dying your hair red."
>
> Okay!! I'm sorry I said it. But I'm just a human being! (or words to that
> effect)
> *******************
My gosh! You actually scared me more than I scared you (I think). Either of
those scenarios gives me the chills, though I, at the same time, find the first
rather intriguing. Mulder literally being taken care of by Scully? It really
*is* pretty close to the truth we know, isn't it? It makes me think of a kind
of off-beat version of Holmes & Watson being played out, even more so than in
"They Might Be Giants" (a classic BTW).
DebR
realdana
Sharon Brearey wrote in message <36E07186...@philly.infi.net>...
>I thought about a "St. Elsewhere" ending, too (although not very
>fondly).
>I was disappointed with *that* ending, because I wondered how the
>writers could possibly know what went on in an autistic child's mind.
>Since I'm not a writer OR a doctor, I wouldn't venture to guess.
I hated that ending too - of course I'm a behavioral consultant for
kids/families dealing with autism. Thought it was the usual stereotypic
view of a kid with autism. Anyway - some of my kids are verbal enough to be
able to tell you what is going on in their head to some extent. Others have
difficulty expressing themselves and they always amaze me!
dana
Who also hated Silent Fall (or whatever that Richard Dreyfuss movie was
called) but liked the portrayal of the child with autism in Mercury Rising.
Boondoggler
> >
> My other thought was the "St. Elsewhere" ending. The J. Edgar Hoover
> Building locked in a snowglobe on the nightstand of the straightjacketed
> Mulder, catatonic since the mysterious disappearance of his eight-year-old
> sister in November of 1973. He is of course under the watchful eye of the
> enigmatic Dr. Scully. His fellow inmates all look, well, vaguely familiar.
>
> On the other hand, there's also the "Newhart" ending. Mulder wakes up in a
> king-sized, and suspiciously plaid bed next to a sleepy-eyed Diana Fowley.
> At which point he turns to her and says "Diana, you know you really ought to
> think about dying your hair red."
>
My favorite series ending is Northern Exposure. Iris DeMent singing Our
Town with the poignant scenes flashing by (although that whole
Chris/Maggie thing did come out of left field.) When I saw it, I thought
that was the perfect way to end a series, and I wished all of my series
would end on such a perfect note like that. But the more I think about
it, I am not sure that it would work for TXF. It's too happy. I'm not
sure what I want. But all I know is that I want it to be an ending five
minutes that I will download and watch over and over again.
--
Boondoggler
CRMV
>>It was the waterbed from Dreamland, yes. But because Mulder & Scully's
>>memories were ersased at the end of that episode......niether know orremember
>>how Mulder got a waterbed.
>so is this the first time (aside from the end of dreamland II) where mulder
>questioned where it came from? when scully asked him about it, he seemed
>really confused, almost like that was the first time he realized he even had a
waterbed.
>
>kristin
yes