What if Mulder's father shot himself?
John Ells
killing his father? Wouldn't it be an even greater insult to Mulder's
intelligence to deny something as obvious as this? What if Mulder's father
shot himself? I don't remember the wound but I believe it was a head shot. We
know Krycek was there, maybe he just had to give Mulder's father that extra
incentive to shoot himself! He was very depressed and didn't want to have
to face his son. I'd like to know what others think of this possibility. Am I
overlooking something?
John
equiv...@delphi.com
>Yeah...we actually saw the man shoot Bill Mulder...so I don't think that
>he could have committed suicide.
>
>
>Stef
We only saw Ratboy behind the curtain, with a gun and then the sound of a shot.
They didn't show Ratboy pulling the trigger. We're just assuming that he did.
Was there someone else in the bathroom? With CC..who really knows what happened?
stefanie marie elliott
Yeah...we actually saw the man shoot Bill Mulder...so I don't think that
slcc...@mo.net
I'm of the notion RB shot M. dad.
John Ells
else!
John
In article <APC&1'0'766db063'e...@igc.apc.org>,
Center for Democratic Renewal <c...@igc.apc.org> wrote:
>Yea, I think you're overlooking the fact that we saw the man who shot
>Mulder's dad (or at least a view that's had me believing this whole time
>that it definately wasn't Krychek...It has been awhile since I've rewatched
that
>episode...and this inplant in my neck is really bothering me! ;)
>
>nihilist
Mike Quigley
>Yeah...we actually saw the man shoot Bill Mulder...so I don't think that
>he could have committed suicide.
BS you did! You see Pa Mulder in the washroom, he opens the mirror, Ratboy is
reflected in it. The next scene shows Mulder on the couch and he hears the sound
of a gun.
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was no gun next to Bill Mulder in the bathroom. Krychek had to have shot
Bill Mulder, because he still had the gun that FM took away from him in
the fight outside Mulder's apt. building.
I also don't buy the theory that "Hispanic Man" killed BM, as 1.) The
more people you send into a situation, the more likely it is that
something will go wrong - so why send 2 people into a tiny bathroom
rather than just one? And if you are going to shoot someone from the
window, why send anyone into the bathroom at all? and 2.) I can't see
Krychek saying "Hey, Hispanic man, nice shooting! By the way, can I
BORROW your gun to go kill the son?" No, I think Krychek was just lying
to save his weasely butt when he told FM he didn't kill BM. Just IMHO.
Rose Marie Delckum
Just because I love playing devil's advocate, I
have to jump in here :-)
: I also don't buy the theory that "Hispanic Man" killed BM, as 1.) The
: more people you send into a situation, the more likely it is that
: something will go wrong - so why send 2 people into a tiny bathroom
: rather than just one? And if you are going to shoot someone from the
: window, why send anyone into the bathroom at all?
But by the same token, why send 2 people after Scully? If
they were working as a team, it is possible they were both there.
As I recall, Krycek was in the shower, right? Maybe he was
supposed to wait inside to make sure Mulder Sr. didn't try to
struggle or escape...
: and 2.) I can't see
: Krychek saying "Hey, Hispanic man, nice shooting! By the way, can I
: BORROW your gun to go kill the son?"
Well, we don't know exactly what Krychek was doing at Mulder's,
do we? As Scully pointed out, it would be awfully suspicious if
Mulder had shot Krycek with the same gun that had been used to
kill his father, especially since he had been acting so weird
lately. So, maybe Krycek was sent there to plant the gun in
Mulder's apartment. That way it would sure look possible that
Mulder had gone nuts and killed his father. And as a bonus,
since he would obviously be disoriented and claiminhg he was
innocent etc, the conspiracy could use that to discredit anything
he said. As CancerMan pointed out to Krycek, if they were to
kill Mulder they would make him a martyr. But if they were to
frame him for the murder of his father, they could discredit him
and also get him out of their hair. The more I think about
it the better that plan sounds.
I'm probably wrong, of course :-)
Roo
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Ajay Patel
tape, threatining him with a gun, Bill couldn't live a lie so he shot
himself hece the quote "Forgive me", Krycheck didn't kill him he merly
threatend him, and fled when Mulder came to check it out....even Cancer
man said "We had nothing to do with that"...in reference to the Bill
Mulder killing, hey we all believe him don't we.....we just don't like the
idea of it.
chaku
Ajay Patel <apa...@voyager.co.nz> wrote:
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Re: "Bill couldn't live a lie so he shot himself..."
Sorry! In "Anasazi" (2.25) Mulder Sr. called Mulder Jr. and told him he
needed to see him immediately (because of the DoD UFO files dating from
the '40's to the present being accessed by the hacker "Thinker" and the
black ops working due to the situation - Mulder Sr. wanted to alert his
son of his previous involvement with UFOs). Mulder Sr. began to tell
Mulder Jr. (who already had gotten a digital copy of the stolen files
from "Thinker" - so Mulder Jr. is aware of the black ops situation) about
his work in the State Dept (with UFOs). Then when Mulder Sr. stepped
into his bathroom he was shot and killed by *Krycek* who was hiding in
Mulder Sr's shower!
This was the same episode where CSM visited Mulder Sr. to tell him "the
documents" (the UFO files) had been breached. Mulder Sr.'s response was
asking CSM if he could protect his son (Mulder Jr.) and CSM said
something like "I've protected him up til now..." Kind of eerie, eh?!
And of course this chronologically came before the previous paragraph -
when Mulder Sr. was alive!
So, are there enough "()" for y'all?!
Sorry if this is confusing,
Tara
c67...@gold.missouri.edu
> Ajay Patel <apa...@voyager.co.nz> wrote:
> >Krycheck obviously turned up to Bill Mulders house to recover the missing
> >tape, threatining him with a gun, Bill couldn't live a lie so he shot
> >himself hece the quote "Forgive me",
No he said forgive me because he knew that fox was going to find
out about his involvement in the whole thing including the abduction on
his sister.
> > Krycheck didn't kill him he merly
> >threatend him, and fled when Mulder came to check it out....even Cancer
> >man said "We had nothing to do with that"...in reference to the Bill
> >Mulder killing, hey we all believe him don't we.....we just don't like the
> >idea of it.
> >
Yea he also told "The Project" people that he had nothing to do
with the shooting of skinnerin the last ep. And he also said the tape
had been distroyed and ...and ...and well you get the point.
Regards,
Scott
Etsuo Yamane
writes:
>You are overlooking one obvious clue for the "suicide" argument -
there
>was no gun next to Bill Mulder in the bathroom. Krychek had to have
shot
>Bill Mulder, because he still had the gun that FM took away from him
in
>the fight outside Mulder's apt. building.
Krychek obviously killed Bill M. After Mulder opened the door,
Krychek ran his sorry ass outta the window.
>
>I also don't buy the theory that "Hispanic Man" killed BM, as 1.) The
>more people you send into a situation, the more likely it is that
>something will go wrong - so why send 2 people into a tiny bathroom
>rather than just one? And if you are going to shoot someone from the
>window, why send anyone into the bathroom at all? and 2.) I can't see
>Krychek saying "Hey, Hispanic man, nice shooting! By the way, can I