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Bill Bickel

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Feb 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/22/98
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Is it my imagination, or did nobody ever expalin teh whole
shoelace thing in any way that made sense?
Vampires would leave laces untied because they're compulsive??
Sorry, being compulsive would more logically mean tehy'd TIE any
untied laces they see.

After the episode ended, I remembered having read somewhere that
vampires (by some accounts) can't abide tied laces, because it
reminds them of a cross. Therefore it would be logical for them
to untie their victims' shoes.

And this would make sense in the context of the storyline
("Scully, their shows are untied: Clear proof that vampirism's
afoot!")

My theory, then, is that this is what the script was supposed to
say, but a page got lost somehow and DD and GA decided to fudge
it and hope nobody realized they weren't making any sense.

Bill Bickel
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lynx mulderite

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Feb 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/22/98
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Bill Bickel wrote:
>
> Is it my imagination, or did nobody ever expalin teh whole
> shoelace thing in any way that made sense?
> Vampires would leave laces untied because they're compulsive??
> Sorry, being compulsive would more logically mean tehy'd TIE any
> untied laces they see.
>
> After the episode ended, I remembered having read somewhere that
> vampires (by some accounts) can't abide tied laces, because it
> reminds them of a cross. Therefore it would be logical for them
> to untie their victims' shoes.
>
> And this would make sense in the context of the storyline
> ("Scully, their shows are untied: Clear proof that vampirism's
> afoot!")
>
> My theory, then, is that this is what the script was supposed to
> say, but a page got lost somehow and DD and GA decided to fudge
> it and hope nobody realized they weren't making any sense.
>
> Bill Bickel

But I thought Mulder said that when Vampires saw knots they had to untie
them....Didn't he say that - or did I just make that up?
--
lynx
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Circe

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Feb 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/22/98
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Perhaps the shoes were already tied and the vampire untied them. Why the
heck would people run around with their shoes untied?

--
Circe
The Titanium Magnolia
SPCDD, MDL
X-Phile--We're not obsessed; we're focused.--gizzie


Bill Bickel wrote:

> Is it my imagination, or did nobody ever expalin teh whole
> shoelace thing in any way that made sense?
> Vampires would leave laces untied because they're compulsive??
> Sorry, being compulsive would more logically mean tehy'd TIE any
> untied laces they see.

> After the episode ended, I remembered having read somewhere that
> vampires (by some accounts) can't abide tied laces, because it
> reminds them of a cross. Therefore it would be logical for them
> to untie their victims' shoes.
>
> And this would make sense in the context of the storyline
> ("Scully, their shows are untied: Clear proof that vampirism's
> afoot!")
>
> My theory, then, is that this is what the script was supposed to
> say, but a page got lost somehow and DD and GA decided to fudge
> it and hope nobody realized they weren't making any sense.
>
> Bill Bickel

mox.f...@fib.gob

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:36:25 +0000, lynx mulderite <lyn...@erols.com> wrote:
[...]

> But I thought Mulder said that when Vampires saw knots they had to untie
> them....Didn't he say that - or did I just make that up?

"If he sees a knotted rope, he's got to untie it. It's in his nature."
--Mulder.


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atschool

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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I think that fm looked at his shoes in the motel and came to the conclusion
that the shoes were untied because the victims didn't have them on when they
died. Maybe the vampires couldn't tie the laces after?

Matthew Mejia K.

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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When you were a kid, did a parent ever tell you not to pull your shoes off
without untying the laces? I think that may have been the point.

Bill Bickel wrote in message <34F0EE8E...@cris.com>...

Matthew Mejia K.

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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Marc

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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I watched this special on vampires on the Discovery Channel like 3 weeks
ago so the minute they showed the shoelaces thing, I got it. What it
is, and they did explain this, just not thoroughly enough, the ancient
vampires are rumored to to hate knots, and so they would untie them
whenever the see them. In the 1600's people would put a rope with like
100 knots tighter than ever in coffins with people who were vampires so
that when they woke up, they would have to untie the knots (taking an
eternity) before they could go attack the town. Mulders explaination
was that they were obsessive compulsive, and so they had to pick up
seeds and untie knots, but I haven't ever heard of any mention of seeds
or any other great obsessions. Hope that helped ya..

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Jeremy cox

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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mox.f...@fib.gob wrote:

: On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:36:25 +0000, lynx mulderite <lyn...@erols.com> wrote:
: [...]
: > But I thought Mulder said that when Vampires saw knots they had to untie
: > them....Didn't he say that - or did I just make that up?

: "If he sees a knotted rope, he's got to untie it. It's in his nature."
: --Mulder.

Did anywone notice if the sheriff was wearing boots? If vampires didn't like
knots, you'd think they'd avoid them on their own shoes. Of course the
old breadstick!cross trick didn't phase any of them. I wonder if they were
garlic breadsticks.

"I'm wearing loafers, no laces on my shoes."
- Steve Martin?

--

Jeremy Cox

axel heyst

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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In article <34F1FBC3...@concentric.net>,
Marc <ro...@concentric.net> wrote:

>I watched this special on vampires on the Discovery Channel like 3 weeks
>ago so the minute they showed the shoelaces thing, I got it. What it
>is, and they did explain this, just not thoroughly enough, the ancient
>vampires are rumored to to hate knots, and so they would untie them
>whenever the see them. In the 1600's people would put a rope with like
>100 knots tighter than ever in coffins with people who were vampires so
>that when they woke up, they would have to untie the knots (taking an
>eternity) before they could go attack the town. Mulders explaination
>was that they were obsessive compulsive, and so they had to pick up
>seeds and untie knots, but I haven't ever heard of any mention of seeds
>or any other great obsessions. Hope that helped ya..
>

>snip

The seeds thing is pretty much the same as the knots. In Eastern European
tradition it was thought that throwing a whole bunch of poppy or mustard
seeds-which are really tiny- over the graves of presumed vampires would
occupy them with counting until sunrise and thus stave off their
activities. I have a whole list of vampire killing stuff and such if anyone
wants.

axel heyst
"no I'm not a goth or whatever. I just have a lot of books with weird shit
in 'em."

GeoRed

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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In article <6cr8fn$q4n$1...@news1.tor.acc.ca>, "atschool" <atsc...@ican.net>
writes:

>I think that fm looked at his shoes in the motel and came to the
>conclusion that the shoes were untied because the victims didn't have them on
>when they died. Maybe the vampires couldn't tie the laces after?

No, it was because when *he* took off his shoes, he toed them off without
untying them. Therefore, when he saw his shoes untied he knew that the pizza
kid had done it and drugged him.

Heidi
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"It just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter."

Bill Bickel

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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GeoRed wrote:
>
> In article <6cr8fn$q4n$1...@news1.tor.acc.ca>, "atschool" <atsc...@ican.net>
> writes:
>
> >I think that fm looked at his shoes in the motel and came to the
> >conclusion that the shoes were untied because the victims didn't have them on
> >when they died. Maybe the vampires couldn't tie the laces after?
>
> No, it was because when *he* took off his shoes, he toed them off without
> untying them. Therefore, when he saw his shoes untied he knew that the pizza
> kid had done it and drugged him.

Sure. But what did any of that have to do with Mulder seeing teh
untied laces of teh first corpse and concluding it was the work
of a vampire because vampires are anal?

Matt Matta

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Feb 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/26/98
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Matthew Mejia K. (meji...@seas.upenn.edu) spewed:
: When you were a kid, did a parent ever tell you not to pull your shoes off

: >

There compulsion was that they could not leave any knots tied. They would
always untie them. The reason he knew he was in trouble was because when
he took his shoes off he left them tied and when he returned from the
bathroom they were untied.

-- Visigoth

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