X-File Spinoffs?
Alan McHurshman
has there been? Right now my count is up to three. They
are:
(1) FRINGE - From J.J. "I'll never fuck things up like Chris Carter"
Abrams is so obvious a copy of the X-Files that even the producers
are admitting that upfront. I hope it turns out well but given
Abrams'
ability to take a great concept and trash it with bad writing I have
my doubts longterm.
(2) SUPERNATURAL - Two brothers investigate the unexplained
in stories right out of the X-Files (and written and produced by
some of the same writers).
(3) TORCHWOOD - Not as direct a descendent but heavily influenced
by the X-Files, Torchwood features a team investigating aliens and
the unexplained. One of the key themes of the show is that they
are "Fighting For The Future". An interesting take on the title of
the
first X-Files movie.
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AlanH
WG...@webtv.net
] (Alan McHurshman)
](1) FRINGE - From J.J. "I'll never fuck things
] up like Chris Carter" Abrams is so obvious a
] copy of the X-Files that even the producers
] are admitting that upfront. I hope it turns out
] well but given Abrams'
] ability to take a great concept and trash it with
] bad writing I have my doubts longterm.
Well if "Alias" was not a Fuck up, I do not know what is! And "Lost" has
been going "down-hill" ever since season one.
](2) SUPERNATURAL - Two brothers
] investigate the unexplained in stories right out
] of the X-Files (and written and produced by
] some of the same writers).
The only good X-Files clone out there. Probably because it has a lot of
old X-Files alumni on it.
The "Eleventh Hour" looks like it might be worth watching!
Marc
> (1) FRINGE - From J.J. "I'll never fuck things up like Chris Carter"
> Abrams is so obvious a copy of the X-Files that even the producers
> are admitting that upfront. I hope it turns out well but given
> Abrams'
> ability to take a great concept and trash it with bad writing I have
> my doubts longterm.
>
> (2) SUPERNATURAL - Two brothers investigate the unexplained
> in stories right out of the X-Files (and written and produced by
> some of the same writers).
>
> (3) TORCHWOOD - Not as direct a descendent but heavily influenced
> by the X-Files, Torchwood features a team investigating aliens and
> the unexplained. One of the key themes of the show is that they
> are "Fighting For The Future". An interesting take on the title of
> the
> first X-Files movie.
>
Heroes? Many of the "Heroes" could be stand alone X-Files episodes...
only we get their story dragged out over a whole season :)
I enjoyed season 1 but got bored during season 2. I have hugh hopes
for the next series.
Marc
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"Alan McHurshman" <alan.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0c75606-e848-4856-ba64-> (2) SUPERNATURAL - Two brothers investigate
> in stories right out of the X-Files (and written and produced by
> some of the same writers).
This sheo rocks--I binged on the first two seasons on DVD, and I got the
X-0Fies vibe immedialty. Hpwerver, I do not know which actor plasy wheich
brother, klet alone know their birthdays.
NEVER AGAIN
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"That80sGuy" <cl...@griswold.com> wrote in message
> Oh, and it's "shows" and "have there been".
Don't coem inhere and pick at Alan.
Just don't.
Sean Carroll
Don't forget 'Medium'. I'm sure that could never have aired in the pre-XF
world.
But the show that has really grabbed the torch from XF is 'Bones'. It's got
no paranormal or supernatural angle to it, but in every other way, watching
it is like watching XF all over again.
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--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com
Cameron: Where are you going?
House: To buy a 400-dollar butt plug.
Cameron: What about George?
House: He's gonna have to get his own.
Alan McHurshman
> In message news:e0c75606-e848-4856-ba64-
> 941f03e8c...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com, Alan McHurshman
>
> <alan.hursh...@gmail.com> done wrote:
> > So how many "spinoffs" or show derived from the X-Files
> > has there been?
>
{mindless nonsense snipped}
>
> Oh, and it's "shows" and "have there been".
And this is a discussion board.
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AlanH
kimba
> In message news:40e40737-f817-46af-9535-
> b59f0d61c...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, Alan McHurshman
>
>
>
> <alan.hursh...@gmail.com> done wrote:
> > On Aug 9, 3:22 pm, That80sGuy <cl...@griswold.com> wrote:
> >> In message news:e0c75606-e848-4856-ba64-
> >> 941f03e8c...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com, Alan McHurshman
>
> >> <alan.hursh...@gmail.com> done wrote:
> >> > So how many "spinoffs" or show derived from the X-Files
> >> > has there been?
>
> >> Just like TXF is just a ripoff of a combination of Twin Peaks
>
> > {mindless nonsense snipped}
>
> >> Oh, and it's "shows" and "have there been".
>
> > And this is a discussion board.
>
Hmmm...
good discussion technique there...
I am!
Kimba
BTW- Chris Carter himself has said that XF had it's genesis from
Kolchak:the Night Stalker.
If you haven't watched an episode or two, I suggest you do - it's
available on DVD.
XXXXgizzieXXXX
> In message news:40e40737-f817-46af-9535-
> b59f0d...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, Alan McHurshman
That's **focused**. FOCUSED asshole.
And he's OUR focused asshole...
T Block
> In message news:40e40737-f817-46af-9535-
> b59f0d...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, Alan McHurshman
> <alan.h...@gmail.com> done wrote:
>
Plonk.
Or, I guess, virtual plonk because I don't remember how to plonk, and
really dont want to put that much effort into it for this asshole anyway.
--
Tony, hasn't had a good plonk in longer than he cares to remember
Truebluestef
> That80sGuy wrote:
> > In message news:40e40737-f817-46af-9535-
> > <alan.hursh...@gmail.com> done wrote:
>
> >> On Aug 9, 3:22 pm, That80sGuy <cl...@griswold.com> wrote:
> >>> In message news:e0c75606-e848-4856-ba64-
> >>> 941f03e8c...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com, Alan McHurshman
>
> >>> <alan.hursh...@gmail.com> done wrote:
> >>>> So how many "spinoffs" or show derived from the X-Files
> >>>> has there been?
> >>> Just like TXF is just a ripoff of a combination of Twin Peaks
> >> {mindless nonsense snipped}
>
> >>> Oh, and it's "shows" and "have there been".
> >> And this is a discussion board.
>
> > And you're an obsessive asshole.
>
> Plonk.
>
> Or, I guess, virtual plonk because I don't remember how to plonk, and
> really dont want to put that much effort into it for this asshole anyway.
>
> --
> Tony, hasn't had a good plonk in longer than he cares to remember
You know, they have medicine for that.
TrueBlueStef
Brad Filippone
inspired by X-Files, are not by definition spin-offs. A spin-off is a
show that directly borrows characters from an existing show and starts
them in a show of their own. "The Lone Gunmen" is the only one I know of
for X-Files, though "Millenium," it could be argued ENDED on the X-Files.
Does that make "Millenium" a "spin-on?"
Brad
Alan McHurshman
> I could really stir things up by pointing out that these shows, while
> inspired by X-Files, are not by definition spin-offs. A spin-off is a
> show that directly borrows characters from an existing show and starts
> them in a show of their own.
That may be your use of the term but it is not the
meaning of the word "spinoff". AS you can see from
the original post I am not limiting my discussion
to simply the Network TV use of the word. Shows
inspired by the X-Files can indeed be called spinoffs.
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AlanH
Brad Filippone
: On Aug 20, 1:07=A0pm, al...@chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote:
: > I could really stir things up by pointing out that these shows, while
: > show that directly borrows characters from an existing show and starts
: That may be your use of the term but it is not the
: meaning of the word "spinoff". AS you can see from
: the original post I am not limiting my discussion
: to simply the Network TV use of the word. Shows
: inspired by the X-Files can indeed be called spinoffs.
http://crazyabouttv.com/miscpages/spinoffs.html
Brad
Marc
> Shows
> inspired by the X-Files can indeed be called spinoffs.
Certainly over here in the UK, a spin off is something that has the same
characters or exists in the same world as the original show.
The Lone Gunman is an X-Files spinoff.
Torchwood is Dr Who spinoff.
Angel is Buffy spinoff. (I think - never watched it)
Millennium is NOT an X-Files spinoff because they were two different
worlds (ok, until the crossover episode - but the show was not conceived
from the world of X-Files)
But maybe you Americans have invented a new meaning for our word :p
Marc
Brad Filippone
: Alan McHurshman wrote:
: > Shows
: > inspired by the X-Files can indeed be called spinoffs.
: Certainly over here in the UK, a spin off is something that has the same
: characters or exists in the same world as the original show.
: The Lone Gunman is an X-Files spinoff.
: Torchwood is Dr Who spinoff.
: Angel is Buffy spinoff. (I think - never watched it)
: Millennium is NOT an X-Files spinoff because they were two different
: worlds (ok, until the crossover episode - but the show was not conceived
: from the world of X-Files)
Actually, even before the crossover episode, since one episode of
Millenium featured the Jose Chung character introduced on X-Files.
Brad
Alan McHurshman
> In message news:fc310136-c6ff-4f07-9a65-
> <alan.hursh...@gmail.com> done wrote:
> > I am not limiting my discussion
> > to simply the Network TV use of the word.
>
> definition of the word.
Ever think of buying yourself a dictionary?
> > Shows
> > inspired by the X-Files can indeed be called spinoffs.
> Bullshit. The world does not revolve around your arrogance.
Nor is it controlled by your own lack of intelligence.
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AlanH
Alan McHurshman
I'm not American. So why don't you just look up the meaning
of the word "spinoff". While words often take on new meanings
as a result of popular usage their meanings are by no means limited
to popular or even niche usages. So even in Britian a
show like "Fringe" could be referred to as an X-Files spinoff though
I suspect "ripoff" is a better term.
--
Alan
Marc
> I'm not American. So why don't you just look up the meaning
> of the word "spinoff".
OK :)
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/spinoff?view=uk
spin-off
• noun 1 a product or incidental benefit produced during or after a
primary activity. 2 a subsidiary of a parent company that has been sold
off, creating a new company.
or more specific to TV:
http://www.skillset.org/tv/article_3485_2.asp
SPIN-OFF - A new programme or series linked to a previous successful
production. An example would be a spin-off drama about a single
character that featured previously in a larger drama series. Spin-offs
can also refer to books and DVDs linked to a programme.
or:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin-off_(media)
"Media spin-off is the process of deriving new radio programs,
television programs or video games or even novels from already existing
ones. "
Nowhere have I found "A TV programme or series that takes inspiration
from a successful production" - it has to be derived from it.
Because it's not :)
Marc
kimba
OscartheGrouch
> show like "Fringe" could be referred to as an X-Files spinoff though
> I suspect "ripoff" is a better term.
>
> --
> Alan
I think you are the only one who refers to spinoffs as just some similar
show. The rest of the world knows better.
Alan McHurshman
> "Media spin-off is the process of deriving new radio programs,
> television programs or video games or even novels from already existing
> ones. "
>
> Nowhere have I found "A TV programme or series that takes inspiration
> from a successful production" - it has to be derived from it.
>
> Because it's not :)
Oh really. So Wiki is the way now? LOL
Oh, and AskOxford is just the free version
of the Oxford dictionary. Try looking it up in
the OED. Or some other complete dictionary.
Here's a couple:
Spinoff:
2. any product that is an adaption, outgrowth, or development of
another similar product: The paperback is a spin-off from the large
hardcover encyclopedia.
3: something that is imitative or derivative of an earlier work,
product, or establishment; especially : a television show starring a
character popular in a secondary role of an earlier show
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AlanH