'SHIPPERS SUCK!!!!
Kath
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 00:39:28 -0800, ih...@you.losers ( ) wrote:
>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
>be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
>about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
>you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
>yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
>think David Duchovny
>refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
Thank you!! I am a shipper, and now that I have been insulted I can have a
wonderful day. I owe it all to you. Thank you!!
Kath
X-Ville BabySitter
HouseKeeping Manager-HOME Asylum
Crossapple
A great big troll wrote:
>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic!
<big snip>
Bite us. It's fun.
Carey
------------------------
"People don't mature anymore.
They just stay jackasses all their lives."
(from "She's Having A Baby")
P Bozek
ih...@you.losers wrote:
: You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
: be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
: about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
Yeah, but he also said that they would NEVER do time travel....
: you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
: yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
: think David Duchovny
: refuses to do conventions?
Maybe he doesn't like them... Who cares? It's fun to theorize about what
would happen...
: If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose Place or 90210.
No, that's if we want mindless sex where everyone is screwing everyone
else, and the so-called relationships last an average of two weeks 9and
that's if they're lucky!)
: That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean time, get a sex
: life of your own losers!
My, thank you for that inspiring insight.... I know what I must do now...
Paulina
Champey
In article <ihate-ya02408000...@news.sirius.com>,
ih...@you.losers ( ) writes:
>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully
should
>be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the
show's
>about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
>you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
>yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do
you
>think David Duchovny
>refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch
Melrose
>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
Get over yourself... everyone is entitled to their own opinions... even
you...
Now repeat after me... "It's only a TV show."... "It's only a TV
show."... "It's only a TV show."... "It's only a TV show."...
Now take a deep breath and relax...
Barbara
Mara
ih...@you.losers wrote:
>
> You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
> be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
> about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
> you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
> yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
> think David Duchovny
> refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
> Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
> time, get a sex life of your own losers!
I don't think *you* know what the show is all about...and for that,
I pity you.
--
Mara ~ 00...@nhmccd.campus.mci.net
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CONSCIOUSNESS: That annoying time
between naps.
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Andy Mantler
A big sorry sot who doesn't want to use his/her real
return address wrote (edited for brevity):
>
> You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
> be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
> time, get a sex life of your own losers!
SHE WANTS HIM HE WANTS HER THEY WANT EACH OTHER
WE WANT THEM TO WANT EACH OTHER
THEY WANT US TO WANT THEM TO WANT EACH OTHER
THEY WILL BE HAPPY *WE* *ARE* *HAPPY!*
I guess you are not. Get a love life, loser. Sex isn't everything.
Andy
--
The truth is not hard to kill,
and a lie told well is immortal.
-- Samuel Langhorne Clemens
Nancy Lemieux
In article <ihate-ya02408000...@news.sirius.com>,
ih...@you.losers ( ) wrote:
: You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
: be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
: about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
: you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
: yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
: think David Duchovny
: refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
: Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
: time, get a sex life of your own losers!
Oh gee... *that* really hurt! <guffaw>
Nancy
***********
FoLC, X-Phile Relationshipper and *ecstatic* DueSer
Princess of Roswell, NM
ih...@you.losers wrote:
>
> You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
> be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
> about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
> you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
> yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
> think David Duchovny
> refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
> Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
> time, get a sex life of your own losers!
tsk, tsk, tsk. Why get yourself all riled up about this? Many of the
people who are shippers show interest in the CHARACTER of Mulder and
Scully and want them to explore this type of plot twist. Am I a shipper?
Well, that depends on what day it is....You are probably just someone
who wants the attention of flames in a newsgroup, but to say that all
shippers are mildless, stupid, and the like is silly. Who's to say that
the show would turn into Melrose place if a relationship were to take
place? Today, I feel that Mulder and Scully are very good friends, but I
am almost positive UST exists (Actually I'm TOTALLY positive)...
So naner naner naner,
Holder of rainy days and nowhere to go,
Lover of peach ice tea (but only on full moons),
Eternally a bottle of red wine on a stone wall,
The Roswellian princess :-)
Osu
In article <ihate-ya02408000...@news.sirius.com>,
ih...@you.losers writes
>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic!
Not pathetic, hopeless I'd say. Yeah, hopeless romantics.
> If you think Mulder & Scully should
>be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
>about.
Oh are we? So what's the show about then? Is the show ABOUT mutents and
aliens? Well, sure, but that's not all. It's about two people and their
interaction with these problems. If it wasn't for Mulder and Scully,
we'd be watching Outer Limits! Mulder and Scully are the MAIN part of
the show, without them we wouldn't care two hoots about the conspiracy
and the MOTW, we need them for human interest.
If you ask me (which you wouldn't, but tough, I'm telling you anyway)
The X-files is about a man, and his pursuit for the truth, then along
comes a female sceptic, who has been sent to debunk his work. Except,
she doesn't and she becomes involved in his quest too.
Have you ever heard Chris Carter speaking about how he came up with the
X-Files? A direct quote from the Brian Lowry book, The Truth Is Out
There, - "The show, then would focus on two FBI agents, one a believer,
one a sceptic."
See? The show IS about them. It is about their interaction, not only
with the problems they face, but also with each other. The communiation
between them is essential to the success of the show, think of all the
episodes that no-one likes (Teso Des Bichos, Space etc). What's missing
from them? Decent interaction between Mulder and Scully, without this
the show is soul-less. The majority of the really good episodes are
focussed on the relationship between the two leads, like Ice, or Memento
Mori, and you think Chris created a show that was nothing to do with
their relationship do you? Well, that's interesting, cos let's look at
Syzygy. Not everyones favourite episode, but it focussed on the
relationship between Mulder and SCully and how this was affected not
only by cosmic forces, but also the inroduction of another woman into
their dynamic. And who wrote that? Oh, looky, it's Chris Carter.
Face it buddy, Chris Carter knows what sells his show, and he plays on
it!
> Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
>you continue to waste time on the subject
Personally I don't think I'm wasting any time! I indulge in X-files
banter as a fun and HARMLESS way to relax, afraid I can't say the same
about the way you spend your time.
Yes Chris Carter has said that you will never see Mulder and Scully in
bed together, making googly-eyes at each other, but the question is why
will we never see this?
Because the sexual element doesn't exist? That would be stupid to deny.
No, the main reason is because it would ruin what they already have. The
audience (including me) is hooked on the UST, and resolving that could,
in Chris Carters eyes, ruin the show, because consumated sex, is a lot
more boring than unconsumated! People tune in for the UST, (just look at
how they cashed in on this with Small potatoes), and that makes the
bosses very happy.
Having said that, don't you know that Chris carter has usually finished
that statement by saying, "but this is the X-files, and anything can
happen"? He has even come almost right out and said that some
relationship elements will occur in the X-Files movie...and as someone
else pointed out, he also said that the X-files would never deal with
time travel, and along comes Synchrony!
> and make complete asses of
>yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
>think David Duchovny
>refuses to do conventions?
Why do you assume that just because someone is a shipper, they are
automatically a weird nitpicky fan?
I think if research was done, you'd probably find that the ones that ask
stupid nitpicking questions of Chris Carter and the like, are not
shippers, but sad teenage boys with an unhealthy interest in the show!
Why would shippers be asking stupid questons? The only one I can think
of, is, will they ever get together? and I think that only newbies ask
that kind of thing. Shippers don't need to ask silly questions about why
the handwriting on mulders ID badge is different from the handwriting at
the bottom of his resignation, we're too busy watching Scully take
Mulder's hand, three thousand times!
LOL!
I don't think it's shippers that scare DD off, (and it's not X-villians
either!!), I think it's people like you who feel they own the show and
take the whole thing far too seriously.
How often to you see shippers posting messages with headers that say,
"NOROMOS SUCK!!!!!!"? We know our belief is unlikely (but getting more
likely by the day) but we can laugh at ourselves, and we respect those
who disagree with us.
> If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.
And what's your idea of a relationshiP? Jumping into bed with your best
friends girlfriend? Marrying someone for money and then trying to kill
them? Sleeping with every good-looking guy in sight to get up the
ladder? Having affairs with two women at once? That's the type of thing
you'll see on Melrose Place, and those are not relationships. A
relationship is about trust, and loyalty and friendship and comfort, and
being there for the person. Hmm, remind you of anything?
My intellectual level? Well, I've been told by university tutors that I
am the best they have ever at my specialist subject, can you say the
same?
>In the mean
>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
Oh, I have a one to my satisfaction, thank you very much. Although,
unlike some I don't need it to define myself, I know what a great person
I am.
And you? How are Pam and her five sisters? I know you spend every
evening in their company.
Damn!! I've just seen this has no name, and the email is
IHateyou@losers!! I am an idiot for wasting my time on this moron...ah,
but it felt good!
--
Osu
Proprietor of XVille's stationery store-The Paper Clip Project
Novice of OBSSE
SMAK me!!!
"Faux Mulder/Real Mulder. Potayto/Potato."
"You have no power over me." - Sara, Labyrinth
Sangdrax
In <19970423183...@ladder01.news.aol.com> cha...@aol.com>ih...@you.losers ( ) writes:
>
>>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully
>should
>>be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the
>show's
happen,
>>you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
>>yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why
do
>you
>>think David Duchovny
>Melrose
>>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the
mean
>>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
I'm with you, man...'shippers ROT!
SangDrax
RicBissell
Osu <da...@sgarden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
" If it wasn't for Mulder and Scully, we'd be watching Outer Limits!
Mulder and Scully are the MAIN part of the show, without them we wouldn't
care two hoots about the conspiracy and the MOTW, we need them for human
interest."
I disagree, and think you have it exactly backwards. If it weren't for the
conspiracy and the MOTW, we wouldn't care two hoots about Mulder and
Scully. In fact, we would probably care just as much for them as we did
for Efram Zembalist, Jr. in an old show called "The F.B.I." (a
Quinn-Martin Production!). In other words, not at all.
/< /\ />
FYI
In article <5jnsqm$n...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>, sang...@ix.netcom.com says...
>
>In <19970423183...@ladder01.news.aol.com> cha...@aol.com
>(Champey) writes:
>>
>>In article <ihate-ya02408000...@news.sirius.com>,
>>ih...@you.losers ( ) writes:
>>
>>>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully
>>should
>>>be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the
>>show's
>>>about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never
>happen,
>>>you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
>>>yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why
>do
>>you
>>>think David Duchovny
Maybe he is an asshole!!!!!!!!! Gillian went with no problems.
>>>refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch
>>Melrose
>>>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the
>mean
>>>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
>
> I'm with you, man...'shippers ROT!
> SangDrax
You are really set on this aren't you? Just as you have an opinion, so do
people who watch human nature and love to see happiness. Basically that
is what "shippers" as you call them look at it.
What I want to know is how do you guys know so much about Melrose Place
and 90210? Do you guys watch it often? Is that why you don't want
to see any resemblance of a relationship between M&S? You guys REALLY
NEED A LIFE ya know. The shippers really only look at you guys and
shake their heads pittying you.
Even the most intelligent people need love!!!!!!!!!! Even if they are
nerds.
Just my .02
FYI
KSJ
In article <ihate-ya02408000...@news.sirius.com>, ih...@you.losers ( ) wrote:
>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
>be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
>about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
>you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
>yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
>think David Duchovny
>refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
*we* make asses of ourselves? It seems that intelligent, thought provoking
declarations (NOT!) such as this would make one appear to be more of an ass
than any statement about a relationship.
I know dear, you're just a troll and cannot help your actions...but maybe
you could actually pay attention to what the shippers are saying and then
*you* wouldn't be obliged to make an ass of yourself.
Is *this* the only way you can rationalize "Small Potatoes" to yourself?
BTW, that word "suck"? Totally passe, darling...do try to be more
original...
Kristel
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shipper's_reply
In article <335ED2...@aol.com>, Andy says...
>
>A big sorry sot who doesn't want to use his/her real
>return address wrote (edited for brevity):
>>
>> be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
>> time, get a sex life of your own losers!
>
>
>
>WE WANT THEM TO WANT EACH OTHER
>
>THEY WANT US TO WANT THEM TO WANT EACH OTHER
>
>THEY WILL BE HAPPY *WE* *ARE* *HAPPY!*
>
>I guess you are not. Get a love life, loser. Sex isn't everything.
>
>Andy
>
>--
>The truth is not hard to kill,
>and a lie told well is immortal.
Andy Andy Andy,
This is your opinion, which is fine. But don't condemn those of us with
imagination. We're not looking for "sex on the screen" (well most of us).
But, we look at human life, and you have to admit that if you worked
closely with Scully and went through all the things they have, you would
fall in love with her too. So, lighten up. We DO have SEX lives (well
most of us), we are normal people. We just have an imagination and love
a happy ending.
>-- Samuel Langhorne Clemens
GravesPA2
<<I disagree, and think you have it exactly backwards. If it weren't for
the
conspiracy and the MOTW, we wouldn't care two hoots about Mulder and
Scully. In fact, we would probably care just as much for them as we did
for Efram Zembalist, Jr. in an old show called "The F.B.I." (a
Quinn-Martin Production!). In other words, not at all.>>
Actually, this underlines a basic difficulty we all seem to have in
communicating sometimes. Isn't it possible that different people like the
same show for different reasons? And that none of those various reasons
is necessarily right or wrong?
One of the beautiful things about The X-Files is that it explores all the
various shades of gray between black and white. We should learn to do the
same. Why can't we, as humans, accept that perfectly intelligent,
good-hearted, admirable people are going to disagree with us sometimes,
and that's okay?
Paula G
___________________________________________________________
"Reputation? I have a reputation?" Fox Mulder - "Squeeze"
Ruefrex
Carey writes:
<<A great big troll wrote:
>You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic!
<big snip>
Bite us. It's fun.>>
LOVE your attitude, Carey!! Take a page from Carey's book. Don't rise to
the noxious bait, people!!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Remember the good old days, when people used to talk like THIS??
"I don't like the way your face is fastened on." -- 'Bullets or Ballots'
"If I turned my back long enough for Ed to put a hole in it, there'd be a hole in it."
-- 'White Heat'
"Two people dead -- just so we can live without working." -- 'Gun Crazy'
"I've got an honest man's conscience in a murderer's body." -- 'Fear In The Night'
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Existentialism for Idiots:
Rosencrantz: Do you think death could possibly be a boat?
Guildenstern: No, no, no...death is...not. Death isn't. You take my meaning. Death is the ultimate negative. Not-being. You can't not-be on a boat.
Rosencrantz: I've frequently not been on boats.
Guildenstern: No, no, no -- what you've been is not on boats.
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And for a quick getaway (Better than Poe! Better than Eliot!!):
I watched her fly away for Vegas, sure, I waved the plane out of sight,
Then I tried to drive home without stopping at a bar, but I didn't make it, quite.
And sitting with those blue-jeaned shadows there, that had been there all night,
I found myself shivering over my chilly drink, half dead of fright.
-- William Ashbless
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John P. O'Connell
ih...@you.losers wrote:
>
> You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
> be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
> you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
> yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
> think David Duchovny
> refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
> time, get a sex life of your own losers!
In the infamous words of Bugs Bunny, "WHAT A MAROON!!"
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
Natasha42
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
Terry Luck
ih...@you.losers wrote:
>
> You so called "'Shippers" are pathetic! If you think Mulder & Scully should
> be romanticly involved, then you're totally clueless as to what the show's
> about. Although Chris Carter has stated MANY times it would never happen,
> you continue to waste time on the subject and make complete asses of
> yourselves at conventions by asking incredibly obtuse questions. Why do you
> think David Duchovny
> refuses to do conventions? If it's relationships you want, go watch Melrose
> Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the mean
> time, get a sex life of your own losers!
I am probably just biting on flame bait but here goes anyway.
I am not a shipper and I agree with some of what you said but simply
dismissing the debate as a waste of time is ignorant. I think it is
interesting to read some people's views on why the should be together
and others' views on why the shouldn't. In the same manner, it is
interesting to read the way the different "camps" interprut the same
scene.
For all you pro-shippers and anti-shippers keep posting and debating.
Someone is watching you.
Terry Luck
GravesPA2
<<Even though CC said nothing would happen,both actors have said that
Mulder&Scully not only love each other but are IN-love with each
other......The truth is you really need to be"stupid" if you could
sincerelly watch Momento Mori,Pusher,One Breath,Small Potatoes......i can
keep listing......without realizing what a special LOVE they share for
each other.As long as the show is not based in M&S sex...i dont see how
the X Files would lose its high quality by letting them act out the
feelings that we KNOW are there>>
Yikes...let's not start calling names. We see this aspect. Others see
aspects that we don't see. But we all like the show, right? Let's
concentrate on what we share, not what we don't share....
John J Martin (really Ann)
FYI wrote:
>>>>Place or 90210. That's more down to your intellectual level.In the
>>mean
>>>>time, get a sex life of your own losers!
Ann
You know the guy in the new McD's commercial that says, "*This* is
my McDonalds"?? WOW.
I'm a KREIGIST.
*X-Ville- we put the FUN back in "Dysfunctional"*
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Rebecca Eschliman
<< We see this aspect. Others see aspects that we don't see. But we all
like the show, right? Let's concentrate on what we share, not what we
don't share.... >>
The X-Files, like many another televison series, becomes a mirror pool
in which we see our own individual reflections. But what makes me
curious is your statement about what we share -- what are the common
elements of XF that we share? Outside of the exact nature of the M&S
relationship on which so many disagree, what is it that you find
appealing?
As someone who has very much enjoyed your stories, I applaud the
vibrant activity of fan-fic as a way of satisfying the individual
reflections from the common pool, without compromising the Delphic
oracle nature of the show itself.
-rje-
To live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else. --
Emily Dickinson