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Nicole Schuster

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May 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/13/97
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I'm absolutely new at this so please bear with me. . . I think I've
included something akin to a spoiler towards the end, too.

In "Momento Mori" Mulder found that Scully's eggs had been reaped from
her body, rendering her infertile, unless you count cloning as
reproduction. I have been unable to find a FAQ that addresses these
questions below, which arose because I was really tired when I watched
the show and didn't tape it. It's been a lesson to me. Somebody please
help me.

1. Is Scully aware she has been rendered barren?
2. Does she know that Mulder took a vial of her eggs? (Thereby making
him at that point in time the only person with the ability to father
Scully's children.)
3. Has Scully in fact already been cloned? I thought I saw a
red-haired creature in one of those tanks but, of course, not clearly.
4. Where are those eggs?

And incidentally, is it possible that those eggs and clones could have
something to do with the season ender? I mean, with all those eggs,
Mulder could just recreate (regrow? regenerate? respawn?) Scully. Or,
if Scully's already been cloned, could Clone-Scully be the Judas who
loses her borrowed life? Or could the eggs be used for a cancer cure in
some way?

And simply, why isn't the violation of this woman's body, robbing her of
her ability to have children, making certain characters more upset? I
realize they're not oncologists, but they ARE lawmen, and should be able
to do something about the violation of this woman's (and others as well)
body. Good heavens, look at all the fuss people make when they find out
someone lost one kidney.

Thanks a lot.

Nicole

Jocelyn Anderson

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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u-hum...excuse me,
I am sure this was hacked out when the eggnapping was first revealed,
but simply taking ovum doesn't make a woman sterile... this is the
procedure in many fertility treatments. And another thing... A woman
has only 1 or 2 "ripe" eggs available, usually only a few days out of
the month, in her ovary anyhow...Taking all the "eggs" isn't possible,
most aren't even developed fully yet. Hormone treatments can cause
several eggs to ripen at once, but that takes time, more than your
standard abduction...

Ok sorry, I forgot! This is TV, Jocelyn, not REALITY!

****JOCE****
(who forgets what reality is at times...)
(paid lots of attention during the reproduction chapter of
anatomy/physiology)

jgng...@ix.netcom.com

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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On Tue, 13 May 1997 21:42:18 -0400, Nicole Schuster
<Nicky...@webtv.net> wrote:

>I'm absolutely new at this so please bear with me. . . I think I've
>included something akin to a spoiler towards the end, too.
>
>In "Momento Mori" Mulder found that Scully's eggs had been reaped from
>her body, rendering her infertile, unless you count cloning as
>reproduction. I have been unable to find a FAQ that addresses these
>questions below, which arose because I was really tired when I watched
>the show and didn't tape it. It's been a lesson to me. Somebody please
>help me.
>
>1. Is Scully aware she has been rendered barren?

Nope. She hasn't given an iota of a hint that she knows she's now
sterile. Come to think of it, that IS kind of odd. I've only started
reading this ng for the past month myself so maybe it's already been
covered, but if Scully has been diagnosed w/ cancer, wouldn't they've
run all manner of tests on her and wouldn't one of those tests reveal
she's now barren?



>2. Does she know that Mulder took a vial of her eggs? (Thereby making
>him at that point in time the only person with the ability to father
>Scully's children.)

Again, no. It was noted previously by several people that Mulder
could harp on Scully about the importance of trust at the end of
"Ghosts" while he's carrying around her ova.

>3. Has Scully in fact already been cloned? I thought I saw a
>red-haired creature in one of those tanks but, of course, not clearly.

I don't think so; the red-haired creature I thought was another one of
those Kurt Crawford guys.

>4. Where are those eggs?

To viewers' knowledge, Mulder has'em. How he's keeping'em "fresh" is
anyone's guess.


>
>And incidentally, is it possible that those eggs and clones could have
>something to do with the season ender? I mean, with all those eggs,
>Mulder could just recreate (regrow? regenerate? respawn?) Scully. Or,
>if Scully's already been cloned, could Clone-Scully be the Judas who
>loses her borrowed life? Or could the eggs be used for a cancer cure in
>some way?

That's a pretty nifty theory.

<snip>

>Nicole


John J Martin (really Ann)

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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Nicole Schuster <Nicky...@webtv.net> wrote:
>And simply, why isn't the violation of this woman's body, robbing her of
>her ability to have children, making certain characters more upset? I
>realize they're not oncologists, but they ARE lawmen, and should be able
>to do something about the violation of this woman's (and others as well)
>body. Good heavens, look at all the fuss people make when they find out
>someone lost one kidney.

I can just see them in court.
Judge: "Mr SKinner?"
Sk: "My client was abducted by "aliens" and they stole her eggs"
Judge: "Have a nice day."

Ann
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Steve Rountree

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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Well, in Memento Mori when Mulder finds the clones in the fertility clinic they explain to him that each
woman that was abducted underwent a procedure that involved radiation treatments that were used to make the
women "super-ovulate" so that the could harvest as many eggs as possible. He said that the procedure left
the women sterile and was also responsible for their cancer. So, true normal fertility treatments probably
don't cause infertility but, that is often why women go to fertility clinics to begin with. They are having
trouble conceiving. This, however, as you pointed out, is not reality and they deal with pseudo and/or
experimental science.

Cpwaldo362

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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In article <5lb59q$gm7$1...@newsd-101.bryant.webtv.net>, Nicole Schuster
<Nicky...@webtv.net> writes:

>And simply, why isn't the violation of this woman's body, robbing her of
>her ability to have children, making certain characters more upset? I
>realize they're not oncologists, but they ARE lawmen, and should be able
>to do something about the violation of this woman's (and others as well)
>body. Good heavens, look at all the fuss people make when they find out
>someone lost one kidney.
>

>Thanks a lot.
>
>Nicole
>

You got me there Nicole. That's something that has been bugging me for a
long time
not just because of the eggs, and Scully's cancer, but the fact that
Scully was abducted, and no one seems to feel the urgency to catch the
perpetuators. THEY EXPERIMENTED ON HER FOR GOD'S SAKE! Don't you think
that Scully might be filled with a little rightous anger about this? I
mean she has no problem standing up for victims and seeing justice done,
why can't she feel the same passion for herself? That's what got me so
mad when she went to the shrink in Elegy. Is her loyalty to Mulder the
only reason why she works on the X-files? Come on Scully - get pissed
off! Find those bastards that did this to you.

Waldo


Lee Burwasser

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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Jocelyn Anderson wrote:

> 4. he is trying to make little mulders, mixing them up in the kitchen
> sink!(ok, I know not scientifically possible.) He will have Scully's
> baby a'la Swartzenegger in <what was that movie?>.....
> --
> ****JOCE****

The movie was _Junior_, and it was the bomb of the year. I know
Schwartzenegger likes to do goofy comedies -- more power to him! -- but
there's a difference between goofy and dumb. The only decent thing
about it was Schwartznegger turning in his usual professional job of
work. I was especially impressed with how he handled the cross-dressing
scene; it was as stupid as the rest, but he managed not to add
facetiousness.

Off-topic. Sorry. I'll shut up, now.


Lee Burwasser lburw...@crs.loc.gov
*working stiff--don't blame me for policy*

Gail Pamphilon

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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Quoth Nicole Schuster <Nicky...@webtv.net>:

>1. Is Scully aware she has been rendered barren?

I wondered about this too. Was every one of her ova taken? If so,
surely she would have found out. It only takes one month, not two
years. (Biologists, please feel free to tell me I don't know what I'm
talking about, because I don't!) :-P

>2. Does she know that Mulder took a vial of her eggs? (Thereby making
>him at that point in time the only person with the ability to father
>Scully's children.)

LOL! The irony! I wonder who would bear them? I want to know why he
doesn't arrange to have Scully's stolen property returned to her. This
could be done at a fertility clinic, surely? Or the Kurt clones could
do it for her, unless they have all been murdered.

Of course, I have only seen up to Memento Mori (not Momento, damn it
all!) so there may be some developments I know nothing about.

>3. Has Scully in fact already been cloned? I thought I saw a
>red-haired creature in one of those tanks but, of course, not clearly.

They were probably more Kurt clones. Didn't the Kurts have reddish
hair? I forget. I'll have to watch MM again to find out.

>4. Where are those eggs?

Perhaps we are supposed to find out in a future episode. After all,
the show's writers followed up on the first suggestion of Scully's
cancer a year later. They seem to be quite good at continuity, most of
the time.

>And incidentally, is it possible that those eggs and clones could have
>something to do with the season ender? I mean, with all those eggs,
>Mulder could just recreate (regrow? regenerate? respawn?) Scully. Or,

It wouldn't be the same. The clone wouldn't have her memories or
education, so she would be another person entirely.

>if Scully's already been cloned, could Clone-Scully be the Judas who
>loses her borrowed life? Or could the eggs be used for a cancer cure in
>some way?

Now that is a good idea. Better than the Jeremiah solution, anyway.

>And simply, why isn't the violation of this woman's body, robbing her of
>her ability to have children, making certain characters more upset? I

Good point, but why doesn't Mulder get into serious strife for the way
he constantly flouts the law and knocks people around? It's just
poetic licence.

Gail
)
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Theresa L. Griffin

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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Jocelyn Anderson wrote:
>
> Nicole Schuster wrote:
> <snip>
> > In comclusion:
> > I'm thinking evidence gathered through illegal methods and having only
> > one, fragile living victim might have something to do with the
> > non-action on egg-napping problem. BUT WHAT IS MULDER THINKING?!?!?!?
> > The man 1. knows something about what caused her cancer, 2. is carrying
> > around her eggs (some love token!), and 3. doesn't have the curtesy to
> > inform his partner that she is the victim of a very serious crime. What
> > gives here?
> >
> > Nicole, OBSSE

> 4. he is trying to make little mulders, mixing them up in the kitchen
> sink!(ok, I know not scientifically possible.) He will have Scully's
> baby a'la Swartzenegger in <what was that movie?>.....
> --
> ****JOCE****

I'd like to know if anyone gets the connection between Pendrell (red
hair) and the clones (similar features).....

Theresa (who hates the fact that Pendrell's dead)
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RFScruggs

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STAR Magazine, 5/27/97:
"Tea Leoni's Sexy Honeymoon Secret - She's Pregnant!"

Sexy Tea Leoni is pregnant - that's the naked truth behind her quickie
marriage to X-Files stud David Duchovny.
STAR has learned that the lovebirds - who tied the knot in New York
earlier this month - are expecting a baby this Christmas.
"It's not a big surprise to those of us on the set," says a pal on Tea's
sitcom, The Naked Truth. "That was the buzz during the last week of
taping. She was glowing."
Tea, 31, learned the good news with a home pregnancy kit after suffering a
recent bout of morning sickness.
"The results came back positive and David was so excited he wanted to fly
off to Las Vegas and get married right away," says an insider.
"But Tea convinced him to wait a few weeks so they could invite a few
family members along. He's glad they did. It made the day even more
special for them."
Their new life together began in the honeymoon suite at the elegant Lowell
Hotel in Manhattan. David ordered a $175 bottle of Louis Roederer Cristal
champagne and a mountain of imported caviar as soon as they unpacked.
"Then they put up the 'Do Not Disturb' sign," says a source.
"No one saw hide nor hair of them till the following day."
That's when David, 36, had another bottle of champagne sent up with their
orange juice.
Finally, at about 1:30 that afternoon, the door to their love nest opened.
They came out grinning from ear to ear," says the insider.
But 20 minutes later they were back in their room - and they stayed there
until the following afternoon.
"They were in there for 17 hours straight!" marveled a hotel worker. "That
must have been a real marathon."
David, unshaven and dressed in jeans and sneakers, left the hotel alone
for a few hours of post-production work on his TV show. Meanwhile, Tea
left the suite only for a brief workout in the hotel gym.
Later that night they headed to the restaurant Arte in Greenwich Village,
where they feasted on goat cheese salad, braised rabbit and tiramisu. A
fellow diner says, "Duchovny couldn't take his eyes off his beautiful
bride. When she left for the ladies' room, he would kiss her softly on
the lips. And when she returned, he stood up to greet her."
The happy couple then headed back to their honeymoon suite for another
night of passion.
--Walter Baran

laura capozzola

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Ugh. Spare us. Goat cheese salad and braised rabbitt??? Now I'm sick.

-Laura-
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Leigh A Vrabel

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Okay, I've sunk to the point where I'm nit-picking an unconfirmed
rumor, BUT:

If you knew your wife was pregnant when you married her, why the
hell would you order two bottles of champagne? Or would you just drink it
yourself to celebrate your potency? Or would a few glasses of bubbly be
okay for a fetus?

This is the level to which I have sunk...help meeeeeeee.....

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Megadee406

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970517...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,

Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:

> If you knew your wife was pregnant when you married her, why the
>hell would you order two bottles of champagne? Or would you just drink
it
>yourself to celebrate your potency? Or would a few glasses of bubbly be
>okay for a fetus?
>
> This is the level to which I have sunk...help meeeeeeee.....

Don't fret, for I have sunk with you....I thought the same thing while
reading the article...

I am not who I am!
Meg
(it's only SATURDAY??????????)
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Nick Pedicini

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.A32.3.95.970517...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>...

On The Gossip Show on "E" one of those gossip people reported the same.
That the stick turned blue and they borrowed something and got married.....

NJP

MustangSally

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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Merna/Michael Anderson wrote:
>
> In <01bc6301$4555cfa0$2fd2bbcd@jnybny> "Nick Pedicini"
> I am sitting here laughing, and I don't know why! That second sentence
> struck me as really funny...I mean, that second sentence fragment.
>
> Myrke
> hahahahahahahaha

What really cracks me up is what Tea will look like pregnant. Probably
like a straw with a pea stuck in the middle. Or a snake that
swallowed a basketball. LOL. What can they do on The Naked Truth? I
can't see <her> hiding behind surgical scrubs for a season like GA did.
Sorry, I'm just jealous.
I'm not tall, goregeous, with my own TV show and married to one of the
hunkies guys around.
Sigh
MustangSally
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Carry000

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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Hi,

IF SHE IS Preggers ............................I REALLY WISH THEM THE
BEST..................

***************************CONGRATULATIONS********************************
*******


c

Leigh A Vrabel

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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On 17 May 1997, Nick Pedicini wrote:

> Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.A32.3.95.970517...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>...
>
> On The Gossip Show on "E" one of those gossip people reported the same.
> That the stick turned blue and they borrowed something and got married.....
>
> NJP
>

*Snort* LOL
Best keep the bubbly away from Tea, if it's so...
You know, Leigh Anne Leoni-Duchovny is the cutest name for a
kid...:)


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John Baker

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May 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/20/97
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> >What really cracks me up is what Tea will look like pregnant. Probably
> >like a straw with a pea stuck in the middle. Or a snake that
> >swallowed a basketball. LOL.

That's funny. I think Tea Leoni is cute, and still that's funny. A
marshmallow on a toothpick.

> >What can they do on The Naked Truth? I
> >can't see <her> hiding behind surgical scrubs for a season like GA did.

Hmm, this should be interesting... I think it's been done before - wasn't
Katie Sagal pregnant sometime during "Married With Children?"

Leigh A Vrabel

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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On Thu, 22 May 1997, Punk Maneuverability wrote:

> So Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> said:
>
> > Okay...it's not just me!
> > Seriously, though, if Tea is pregnant, I hope she has a darling
> >little boy. When I'm 48, Duchovny Jr. will be 24, and I can fulfill my
> >lifelong dream of impersonating Mrs. Robinson...:)
> > Just kidding, folks...today is the official beginning of the long,
> >hot summer....:)

> >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Leigh Anne Vrabel, Head of 4/27 Productions, X-Ville
> >Daleks. Lots and LOTS of Daleks...
> >"I know what you do."--Dana Scully, "Demons"
> >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>

> Ahem. *Leigh*
>
> Stealing all my good ideas again, I see :p
>
> We'll just have to share.
>
> Punk M
> who's just learned that her computer's going to get an overhaul and
> she'll be able to hang around for the summer! Yes! This means the
> internet and ngs and e-mail! Thank god. . .I would have gone batty.
> --
> I live in the castle--
> "I made this letter longer than usual because I lack
> the time to make it shorter."
> --Pascal _Provencial Letters XVI_
> -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:- -:-
>
Whoops. I was supposed to post this to the "real" newsgroup so a
lot of people wouldn't see it...the above idea was inspired by a
conversation I had in e-mail with Punk M. And when I said 'A roo hay' a
few posts ago, I was paying hommage to gizzie...
Question, since we've been talking about copyright and all...do we
have to quote each other when we're talking in here? Or if somebody comes
up with a catchphrase, does it become common property?

Megadee406

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In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970522...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,

Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:

> Look at all these rumors, surrounding us every day...isn't it
>weird how these things get started? You know, we could have a contest to
>see who can create the most outrageous rumor; the winner will be the
>person who gets his/her "creation" scooped as "truth" by those who
>eavesdrop on the newsgroup. Bonus points if it appears somewhere in
>print.


*Psst....did you all HEAR?? Not only is Leoni PREGNANT, but she already
HAD her kid, like, awhile ago, and, like, Duchovny WAS the father but
they've been secretly married for a long time and in real life they're
older than they tell everyone they are and you know WHAT? Their kid's name
is LEIGH ANNE VRABEL!*

I am not who I am!
Meg

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"I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB

Ann Martin

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fo...@magicnet.net (John Baker) wrote:

>Hmm, this should be interesting... I think it's been done before - wasn't
>Katie Sagal pregnant sometime during "Married With Children?"

And Julia Louis Dreyfus TWICE on Seinfeld.

Ann
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Punk Maneuverability

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So Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> said:

> Whoops. I was supposed to post this to the "real" newsgroup so a
>lot of people wouldn't see it...the above idea was inspired by a
>conversation I had in e-mail with Punk M. And when I said 'A roo hay' a
>few posts ago, I was paying hommage to gizzie...

That's right, scream TRIBUTE *after* the fact. <grumble grumble> :p

> Question, since we've been talking about copyright and all...do we
>have to quote each other when we're talking in here? Or if somebody comes
>up with a catchphrase, does it become common property?

Well, I suppose the said person could copyright it--but enforcing it
would be a pain. I can't imagine gizzie reading EVERY POST on this ng
searching for "A roo hay" every time someone used it. That and I've
seen it in at least three or four sigs. gizzie would be a rich
woman--she could quit the bologna and start hanging around Vancouver.
Hey. Not a bad idea. What do you think gizzie? And if you don't
want to leave the meats, I'm sure there are delis in Vancouver.

>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Leigh Anne Vrabel, Head of 4/27 Productions, X-Ville
>Daleks. Lots and LOTS of Daleks...
>"I know what you do."--Dana Scully, "Demons"
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>

All right. I was doing a little extra-curricular reading (well,
besides the fanfic, I actually checked a BOOK out of the LIBRARY, and
MULDER and SCULLY weren't even mentioned. . .can you IMAGINE?
Althought it WAS about the internet. . .)

POINT BEING--

I learned some interesting stuff about copyright and how it relates to
ngs.

By virtue of us coming up with original posts/messages--THEY BELONG TO
US! That's right. We're all authors here. If we went as far as
putting a little (c)1997 at the end of our post that gives us even
MORE credit. But because cyberprint is a little ethereal, it may be
hard to say it's a reproducable medium--so print out a copy of your
posts and then they REALLY belong to you.

So if we were going to use someone's post (like in a BOOK, *ahem*) the
correct thing to do would be ask for permission because even though
it's very easy to make a copy of someone's post from the ng or even
dejanews--it still belongs to them.

When we quote something said earlier in a thread--it's okay because
it's basically agreed upon that whatever we post will be responded to
and posted again.

Of course, I'm paraphrasing all of this, and it's well known that I'm
often full of it. (The only obvious question here is "Full of
*what*?")

But the BOOK, I read was _Netiquette_ by Virginia Shea and published
by Albion Books. It's really a great thing. I only wish it were
heavier and larger (sort of like the Oxford English Dictionary) so
when you threw it at trolls and obnoxious newbies it would hurt more.

Not like anyone is actually reading this. I'm probably just consuming
valuable bandwidth. Oh! Speaking of which. This book explains
bandwidth. Sadly it doesn't have anything to do with marching bands.

So-- I think I'm getting the hang of this OFF-TOPIC. I only mentioned
M&S ONCE! I can be OFF-TOPIC. I CAN be OFF-TOPIC.

Punk M
(c)1997


--
I live in the castle--
"I made this letter longer than usual because I lack
the time to make it shorter."
--Pascal _Provencial Letters XVI_

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Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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In <33860585...@news.uoregon.edu> rma...@gladstone.uoregon.edu
(Punk Maneuverability) writes:
>

> gizzie would be a rich
>woman--she could quit the bologna and start hanging around Vancouver.
>Hey. Not a bad idea. What do you think gizzie? And if you don't
>want to leave the meats, I'm sure there are delis in Vancouver.
>

...but I MUST be Queen of Lunchmeat Land, or I can't play
....I just CAN'T...

XXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXX
(celebrating 25 years of baloney slicing...but JUST 'till my agent
calls......)

Megadee406

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In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970524...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,

Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:

> BWAHAHAHAA!
> Of course, this would explain the juvenality of my posts.
> I love my mommy because she lets me wear her clothes to preschool
>(we're the same size). Daddy's mean, though. He won't let me watch his
>TV show...once I lisped, "The twuth is aht there!" and he spanked me REAL
>HARD!

Heehee...um...um..um...*snicker*...oknocomment. (i don't want to get
myself in trouble with the davidlovers...;)

> Then he stomped around the house, screaming, "I'm a serious actor,
>damnit, and I'm going to be remembered as blankety-bleepin' Fox Mulder
for
>the rest of my life!"
> Daddy drinks a lot.
>
> Meg, you've really done it this time. Now there's gonna be a
>whole new breed of trolls bombing my mailbox....:)

*sigh* I'm just hoping it really DOES end up in print...wouldn't that be a
stich to read in Liz Smith's column?

"A very close source reported to me today that the Duchovny/Leoni
pregnancy rumor is not only TRUE, it's old news! According to my source,
who identified herself only as "Ratgirl", Leoni had her child many years
ago. They named the child Leigh Anne, after Leoni's deceased guinea pig.
This same source also tells me that Duchovny is an alcoholic, abusive
father, and that Leoni is an anorexic. The Duchovny-Leonis would not
comment......In other gossip news, a source close to acclaimed actor John
Cusack reports that the star of "Grosse Point Blank" is filing a lawsuit
against a certain Miss Vrable. According to Cusack, Vrable has been
'Stalking me for weeks...I can't get away from her anymore...' "

Leigh A Vrabel

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On 25 May 1997, Megadee406 wrote:


(in response to my goofy comments, as follows)


> > BWAHAHAHAA!
> > Of course, this would explain the juvenality of my posts.
> > I love my mommy because she lets me wear her clothes to preschool
> >(we're the same size). Daddy's mean, though. He won't let me watch his
> >TV show...once I lisped, "The twuth is aht there!" and he spanked me REAL
> >HARD!
>
> Heehee...um...um..um...*snicker*...oknocomment. (i don't want to get
> myself in trouble with the davidlovers...;)

Oh, come on...like that ever stopped you before...:)

> > Then he stomped around the house, screaming, "I'm a serious actor,
> >damnit, and I'm going to be remembered as blankety-bleepin' Fox Mulder
> for
> >the rest of my life!"
> > Daddy drinks a lot.
> >
> > Meg, you've really done it this time. Now there's gonna be a
> >whole new breed of trolls bombing my mailbox....:)
>
> *sigh* I'm just hoping it really DOES end up in print...wouldn't that be a
> stich to read in Liz Smith's column?
>
> "A very close source reported to me today that the Duchovny/Leoni
> pregnancy rumor is not only TRUE, it's old news! According to my source,
> who identified herself only as "Ratgirl", Leoni had her child many years
> ago. They named the child Leigh Anne, after Leoni's deceased guinea pig.
> This same source also tells me that Duchovny is an alcoholic, abusive
> father, and that Leoni is an anorexic. The Duchovny-Leonis would not
> comment......

Any minute now somebody's hotshot lawyer is going to call and sue
my sorry butt...:) Meg, darlin', you make the pain go away...:)

In other gossip news, a source close to acclaimed actor John
> Cusack reports that the star of "Grosse Point Blank" is filing a lawsuit
> against a certain Miss Vrable. According to Cusack, Vrable has been
> 'Stalking me for weeks...I can't get away from her anymore...' "
>
> I am not who I am!
> Meg
>
> ~
> X-Ville's Juvenile Delinquent, Part-time WIB, and Evil Music Director
> "I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB
> My website: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2080/
> Krycek's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/4226/
>
>

A spokesperson for Leigh Anne VRABEL had no comment on the
Duchovny-Leoni rumors, but would like to point out that "Ratgirl" lives in
a fictional town called X-Ville and conducts an orchestra full of
psychopaths.
Want some grits with your ad hominem, Meggy? 8)
This is entirely too much fun...


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Leigh Anne Vrabel, Head of 4/27 Productions, X-Ville

A rock in the hand is worth two in the heart.
"Gee, Scully, I'm sorry Detective Ryan blew up."
John Cusack as Fox Mulder (he would say it!)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Megadee406

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In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970527...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,

Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:

> Any minute now somebody's hotshot lawyer is going to call and sue
>my sorry butt...:) Meg, darlin', you make the pain go away...:)

I'm sorry. You want I should give it back?


>
>In other gossip news, a source close to acclaimed actor John
>> Cusack reports that the star of "Grosse Point Blank" is filing a
lawsuit
>> against a certain Miss Vrable. According to Cusack, Vrable has been
>> 'Stalking me for weeks...I can't get away from her anymore...' "
>>
>> I am not who I am!
>> Meg
>>
>> ~
>> X-Ville's Juvenile Delinquent, Part-time WIB, and Evil Music Director
>> "I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB
>> My website: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2080/
>> Krycek's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/4226/
>>
>>
> A spokesperson for Leigh Anne VRABEL

Chicx-AH. Bad me. I shall now write VRABEL on the blackboard many times so
i remember.
VRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVR
ABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABLE- oops!


> had no comment on the
>Duchovny-Leoni rumors, but would like to point out that "Ratgirl" lives
in
>a fictional town called X-Ville and conducts an orchestra full of
>psychopaths.

And for this, she deserves a cookie.

> Want some grits with your ad hominem, Meggy? 8)
> This is entirely too much fun...

Ah, yes....summertime in atxf....ON-TOPIC? Why???

I am not who I am!

Merg

Leigh A Vrabel

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On 28 May 1997, Megadee406 wrote:

> In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970527...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,
> Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:
>
> > Any minute now somebody's hotshot lawyer is going to call and sue
> >my sorry butt...:) Meg, darlin', you make the pain go away...:)
>
> I'm sorry. You want I should give it back?

No thanks...it turns out I'm allergic to ciprofloxisin, or however
the hell you spell it, which was one of the medications I was on.
Needless to say, I'm off...ow, ow, ow..figures. Normal people are
allergic to things like strawberries or Yorkies...I'm allergic to an
antibiotic nobody can spell...

> >In other gossip news, a source close to acclaimed actor John
> >> Cusack reports that the star of "Grosse Point Blank" is filing a
> lawsuit
> >> against a certain Miss Vrable. According to Cusack, Vrable has been
> >> 'Stalking me for weeks...I can't get away from her anymore...' "
> >>
> >> I am not who I am!
> >> Meg
> >>
> >> ~
> >> X-Ville's Juvenile Delinquent, Part-time WIB, and Evil Music Director
> >> "I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB
> >> My website: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2080/
> >> Krycek's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/4226/
> >>
> >>
> > A spokesperson for Leigh Anne VRABEL
>
> Chicx-AH. Bad me. I shall now write VRABEL on the blackboard many times so
> i remember.
> VRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVR
> ABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABLE- oops!

LOL...and when you're done, make sure you bang the erasers
together...:)

> > had no comment on the
> >Duchovny-Leoni rumors, but would like to point out that "Ratgirl" lives
> in
> >a fictional town called X-Ville and conducts an orchestra full of
> >psychopaths.
>
> And for this, she deserves a cookie.

I have a REALLY off-topic story to tell about cookies. My
exboyfriend lived with three other guys, all of whom had girlfriends, so
it's the four women and the four mem, hanging out. Harry and his girl,
Cindy, bring home a box of smiley cookies from Eat N Park. We're eating
them when Louie and Helen come in. Helen, who is none too bright, says,
"Oh, cookies! Did you bake these yourself, Leigh Anne?" So of course, I
say, "Yep. Slaved over them all day. Want the recipe?" And I proceed to
give her a fake recipe for Eat N Park Smiley cookies. Everyone else was
dying of laughter, except Louie, who wanted to kill me. Oh well...:)

> > Want some grits with your ad hominem, Meggy? 8)
> > This is entirely too much fun...
>
> Ah, yes....summertime in atxf....ON-TOPIC? Why???
>
> I am not who I am!
> Merg
> ~
> X-Ville's Juvenile Delinquent, Part-time WIB, and Evil Music Director
> "I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB
> My website: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2080/
> Krycek's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/4226/
>
>

Merg? Are you morphing into Myrke? Is this like one of those
puzzles?
Meg, Merg, Merge, Merke, Myrke!

Megadee406

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In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970528...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,

Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:

>On 28 May 1997, Megadee406 wrote:
>>
>> Chicx-AH. Bad me. I shall now write VRABEL on the blackboard many times
so
>> i remember.
>>
VRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVR
>> ABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABLE- oops!
>
> LOL...and when you're done, make sure you bang the erasers
>together...:)

I would...but I'm allergic to work...;-)

>
> I have a REALLY off-topic story to tell about cookies. My
>exboyfriend lived with three other guys, all of whom had girlfriends, so
>it's the four women and the four mem, hanging out. Harry and his girl,
>Cindy, bring home a box of smiley cookies from Eat N Park. We're eating
>them when Louie and Helen come in. Helen, who is none too bright, says,
>"Oh, cookies! Did you bake these yourself, Leigh Anne?" So of course, I
>say, "Yep. Slaved over them all day. Want the recipe?" And I proceed
to
>give her a fake recipe for Eat N Park Smiley cookies. Everyone else was
>dying of laughter, except Louie, who wanted to kill me. Oh well...:)

This reminds me very much of that one Got Milk? commerical with the guy in
the full body cast and the people next to him bring over cookies and they
feed him one and then they drink huge glasses of milk, but they don't give
HIM any so he's screaming MMMPPHH!!! but they still don't give him one and
the say got milk?

it reminded me of that 'cause you said "Oh, cookies!" in your post and
that's kinda what the one guy NOT in a body cast says. "Cookies!"


>> Ah, yes....summertime in atxf....ON-TOPIC? Why???
>>
>> I am not who I am!
>> Merg

[snipped my own sig]

> Merg? Are you morphing into Myrke? Is this like one of those
>puzzles?
> Meg, Merg, Merge, Merke, Myrke!
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Leigh Anne Vrabel, Head of 4/27 Productions, X-Ville
>A rock in the hand is worth two in the heart.
>"Gee, Scully, I'm sorry Detective Ryan blew up."
>John Cusack as Fox Mulder (he would say it!)
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>

Very clever, Leigh Anne....the product of a bored mind...<g>

Leigh Anne, Lezgh Anne, Lrzgh Anne, Lrzgh Annq, Xrzgh Annq!

Going away now...

Pamela T. Pon

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Punk Maneuverability <rma...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> said:
>> Seriously, though, if Tea is pregnant, I hope she has a darling
>>little boy. When I'm 48, Duchovny Jr. will be 24, and I can fulfill my
>>lifelong dream of impersonating Mrs. Robinson...:)
>
>Ahem. *Leigh*
>Stealing all my good ideas again, I see :p
>We'll just have to share.

Hey, isn't David's brother Daniel still available? It sure sounded that
way in the NOW (UK) interview with Dad Duchovny -- in that bit when he said
that "monogamy is not in his nature" applied to both of his sons.
(It would certainly be a mindbogglingly tactless thing to say if Dad
knew that Daniel were involved in a current relationship.) Of course,
in that same article, Dad said he had "never heard of" Tea Leoni,
so maybe he's just out of the loop.
Someone posted a couple years back on this ng saying that s/he had
just run into Daniel in downtown NY, and that he looked alot like David.
Enough alike that the poster was able to get up the nerve to approach
and ask him if he was a relation of DD's.
Alas, Daniel wouldn't be able to fulfill your GRADUATE fantasies,
given that he's about 39 or 40 now -- but surely those aren't the *only*
dream scenarios you've ever entertained ...?

** please DO NOT e-mail * my mailbox is full of SPAM * please POST replies **
* * * DUE SOUTH has found a U.S. distributor! * * *
* Ask your local station to carry DUE SOUTH in syndication from PolyGram TV *

P Bozek

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Megadee406 (megad...@aol.com) wrote:
<snipping away...>

: This reminds me very much of that one Got Milk? commerical with the guy in


: the full body cast and the people next to him bring over cookies and they
: feed him one and then they drink huge glasses of milk, but they don't give
: HIM any so he's screaming MMMPPHH!!! but they still don't give him one and
: the say got milk?

What about that commercial (Got Milk?, also) with the guy coming out of
the elevator and a pleasant voice saying "Welcome to eternity", and then
he grabs this HUGE choco-chip cookie and when his mouth is stuffed, he
goes to the fridge and it's full of milk cartons, only they're all empty,
and then he screams "Where am I?!?!?!?!" and then they show the "Got
Milk?", only it's on fire, like it's hell and isn't that just so clever,
and I'm going to go now, because I'm a little hyper after that double
chocolate brownie and the large coffee I just had...

:
: I am not who I am!


: Meg
:
: ~
: X-Ville's Juvenile Delinquent, Part-time WIB, and Evil Music Director
: "I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB
: My website: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2080/
: Krycek's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/4226/

:


Nikita-42
Proprietor, XVille Ice Arena and Firing Range
Centre for the XVille FireStorm Hockey Team
***************************************************************
Respect is fine, but actually I've always wanted to be feared.
- Dr. Ross Jennings, "Arachnophobia"
***************************************************************
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Leigh A Vrabel

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On 30 May 1997, Megadee406 wrote:

> In article <Pine.A32.3.95.970528...@unix1.cc.ysu.edu>,
> Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> writes:
>
> >On 28 May 1997, Megadee406 wrote:
> >>
> >> Chicx-AH. Bad me. I shall now write VRABEL on the blackboard many times
> so
> >> i remember.
> >>
> VRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVR
> >> ABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABELVRABLE- oops!
> >
> > LOL...and when you're done, make sure you bang the erasers
> >together...:)
>
> I would...but I'm allergic to work...;-)

Me too...that's why I'm here instead of in my office, grading
papers...:)

(snip my cookie story)

> This reminds me very much of that one Got Milk? commerical with the guy in
> the full body cast and the people next to him bring over cookies and they
> feed him one and then they drink huge glasses of milk, but they don't give
> HIM any so he's screaming MMMPPHH!!! but they still don't give him one and
> the say got milk?
>

> it reminded me of that 'cause you said "Oh, cookies!" in your post and
> that's kinda what the one guy NOT in a body cast says. "Cookies!"
>

LOL...I love those commercials! Remember the one with the Aaron
Burr collector? "Ahwuhn Buhh!" He was in _That Thing You Do_, a bit
part, but he was in it. My best bud and I screamed at the screen, "It's
the Aaron Burr guy!"
Hmmm...looks like we have the same annoying movie habits....:)
quiz: When you saw _Scream,_ did you sing "Red Right Hand"
whenever it came on? Bonus points if you recognized Brad Dourif in the
previews for _Night Watchman_ and screamed, "It's Luther Lee Boggs! He's
come to kill us all!"

>
> >> Ah, yes....summertime in atxf....ON-TOPIC? Why???
> >>

> >> I am not who I am!

> >> Merg
> [snipped my own sig]
>
> > Merg? Are you morphing into Myrke? Is this like one of those
> >puzzles?
> > Meg, Merg, Merge, Merke, Myrke!
> >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Leigh Anne Vrabel, Head of 4/27 Productions, X-Ville
> >A rock in the hand is worth two in the heart.
> >"Gee, Scully, I'm sorry Detective Ryan blew up."
> >John Cusack as Fox Mulder (he would say it!)
> >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
>
> Very clever, Leigh Anne....the product of a bored mind...<g>
>
> Leigh Anne, Lezgh Anne, Lrzgh Anne, Lrzgh Annq, Xrzgh Annq!
>
> Going away now...
>

> I am not who I am!
> Meg
>
> ~
> X-Ville's Juvenile Delinquent, Part-time WIB, and Evil Music Director
> "I am who I am who I am well- who am I?" -DMB
> My website: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2080/
> Krycek's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/4226/
>
>

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Leigh A Vrabel

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On 30 May 1997, Pamela T. Pon wrote:

> Punk Maneuverability <rma...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> wrote:
> >Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> said:
> >> Seriously, though, if Tea is pregnant, I hope she has a darling
> >>little boy. When I'm 48, Duchovny Jr. will be 24, and I can fulfill my
> >>lifelong dream of impersonating Mrs. Robinson...:)
> >
> >Ahem. *Leigh*
> >Stealing all my good ideas again, I see :p
> >We'll just have to share.
>
> Hey, isn't David's brother Daniel still available? It sure sounded that
> way in the NOW (UK) interview with Dad Duchovny -- in that bit when he said
> that "monogamy is not in his nature" applied to both of his sons.
> (It would certainly be a mindbogglingly tactless thing to say if Dad
> knew that Daniel were involved in a current relationship.) Of course,
> in that same article, Dad said he had "never heard of" Tea Leoni,
> so maybe he's just out of the loop.
> Someone posted a couple years back on this ng saying that s/he had
> just run into Daniel in downtown NY, and that he looked alot like David.
> Enough alike that the poster was able to get up the nerve to approach
> and ask him if he was a relation of DD's.

Poor guy...it must be hell for him, having to worry if women
really like HIM or just his proximity to DD...of course, there has to be
at least one woman out there who could give a crap about TXF...though I
can't imagine who that would be...
Just dawned on me that both of them are DD. Damnit.

> Alas, Daniel wouldn't be able to fulfill your GRADUATE fantasies,
> given that he's about 39 or 40 now -- but surely those aren't the *only*
> dream scenarios you've ever entertained ...?
>
> ** please DO NOT e-mail * my mailbox is full of SPAM * please POST replies **
> * * * DUE SOUTH has found a U.S. distributor! * * *
> * Ask your local station to carry DUE SOUTH in syndication from PolyGram TV *
>

Heh heh heh...we won't go there....OFF-TOPIC is a summer sport,
but sometimes you have to draw a line...:)

i'm_game

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In article <5mmh55$g...@shellx.best.com>, p...@best.com says...

>
>Punk Maneuverability <rma...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>>Leigh A Vrabel <s013...@cc.ysu.edu> said:
>>> Seriously, though, if Tea is pregnant, I hope she has a darling
>>>little boy. When I'm 48, Duchovny Jr. will be 24, and I can fulfill my
>>>lifelong dream of impersonating Mrs. Robinson...:)
>>
>>Ahem. *Leigh*
>>Stealing all my good ideas again, I see :p
>>We'll just have to share.
>
>Hey, isn't David's brother Daniel still available? It sure sounded that
>way in the NOW (UK) interview with Dad Duchovny -- in that bit when he said
>that "monogamy is not in his nature" applied to both of his sons.
>(It would certainly be a mindbogglingly tactless thing to say if Dad
>knew that Daniel were involved in a current relationship.) Of course,
>in that same article, Dad said he had "never heard of" Tea Leoni,
>so maybe he's just out of the loop.
> Someone posted a couple years back on this ng saying that s/he had
>just run into Daniel in downtown NY, and that he looked alot like David.
>Enough alike that the poster was able to get up the nerve to approach
>and ask him if he was a relation of DD's.
> Alas, Daniel wouldn't be able to fulfill your GRADUATE fantasies,
>given that he's about 39 or 40 now -- but surely those aren't the *only*
>dream scenarios you've ever entertained ...?
>

39, 40 isn't too old for me. Maybe he's a little more grown up!!!!!

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