Mulder is color blind!!!
Marc Germain
Mulder is color blind....( remember the episode when scully got kind of
crazy by watching those tapes...Mulder wasn't touch because he is color
blind..).....
So...how did mulder could see those color of the college coats....
Maybe an operation we did know about?....hehehe
K. Bell
Mulder mentions to The Gunmen that he is Red and Green color blind
so....doesn't that mean he can see other colors properly??
Brandon Ray
*not* mean that you see only black and white.
Marc Germain wrote:
> Rush rush
>
> Mulder is color blind....( remember the episode when scully got kind of
> crazy by watching those tapes...Mulder wasn't touch because he is color
> blind..).....
>
> So...how did mulder could see those color of the college coats....
>
> Maybe an operation we did know about?....hehehe
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Brandon Ray wrote:
> There are different sorts of color-blindness. It most specifically does
> *not* mean that you see only black and white.
That's true; BUT it does mean specific colors are not identified
accurately. People who know they have color deficiency
tend not to trust their own accuracy in identifying colors
... I know my dad doesn't. Basically there's something
to the argument that Mulder, who claimed to be red/green
color "blind" in a previous episode, would not claim
with such cocky confidence that the colors in the video
were exactly the same as he noticed his suspect wearing
earlier.
On another note, I was watching "Rain King" last night
on FX and noticed Mulder pointing out the apparently obvious
blotch of red on the weather radar (? or whatever it's called)
indicating rain. Now I know red/green color "blindness"
doesn't mean an inability to see red; but I
do know the color also does not tend to stand out to people
who have the deficiency. The last time my dad picked me
up from the airport he missed the exit sign twice. On the third
time around, I realized the relatively small but bright green
exit sign just did not stand out for him like it did for me.
It's not that he couldn't see the sign; it just wasn't
obviously noticeable for him next to several larger
brown signs.
Teddi
Deborah
It's called, Carternuity. Mulder's color blindness was miraculously healed
when he became infected by the oileans. It's a miracle.
Deborah
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on Tue, 07 Dec 1999 23:27:42 -0500, in alt.tv.x-files. If you don't
believe me, look in <384DDE3E...@ix.netcom.com>:
Yeah - I'm red color-blind, and my main problem is telling the
difference between colors whose only difference is red, like brown and
green, blue and purple, etc.
One tip, though. If you ever meet someone who's color-blind
(red-green or whatever) DON'T ask them if they know what color your
sweater is. They will hate it. Trust me.
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StalkerChick
Wetwired that gave the writers an excuse to keep him sane enough to
solve the case. It was never mentioned before, and it has never been
mentioned since. That's what's known as a plot device pulled out of
thin air. It's also what's known as bad writing.
While one can argue for days over whether it should have affected other
episodes or not (the red blotch on the radar in Rain King is a classic
example), one would be missing out on the most important logical gap
here. The FBI does not hire color-blind agents. Visual acuity is an
extremely important criterion.
Thus the only thing to do if you're concerned about it all making sense
is pretend that episode didn't exist, or else make up your own reasons
why Mulder didn't go crazy, as the writers should have done.
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Hobbs
>I may be wrong about color blindness but I seem to remember in "Wetwired"
>Mulder mentions to The Gunmen that he is Red and Green color blind
>so....doesn't that mean he can see other colors properly??
Yes. That is exactly what it means. Right on the money!
;-)
Hobbs
my, you're being brave ;-P
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>crazy by watching those tapes...Mulder wasn't touch because he is color
>blind..).....
>
>So...how did mulder could see those color of the college coats....
Being color blind does not mean you can't see colors at all. For many it means
they are more washed out or simply that red and green look the same. The colors
he saw on the tape where i believe blue and yellow.
CMSpurple
>(red-green or whatever) DON'T ask them if they know what color your
>sweater is. They will hate it. Trust me.
And don't ever ask a tall person how the weather is up there . Same reason. My
sister is 6'1" and I think that's the only time she ever wanted to kill people
is when they pulled that stupid line on her.
Catherine
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SatyrCane
Mulder is color blind....( remember the episode when scully got kind of
crazy by watching those tapes...Mulder wasn't touch because he is color
blind..).....
So...how did mulder could see those color of the college coats....
Maybe an operation we did know about?....hehehe
Mulder is "red/green" color blind. None of those colors were red or green.
SpookysToy
>Kissmescully <kissme...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:19991208002127...@ng-fx1.aol.com...
>> >Mulder is color blind
>> >So...how did mulder could see those color of the college coats....
>
>> Being color blind does not mean you can't see colors at all
>
>
>Mulder is no longer color blind. There hasn't been a mention of it since
>Wetwired. I tell you, the oileans miraculously cured him.
So the writers are supposed to mention in every episode each characteristic or
flaw the characters possess?
Spooky's Toy
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"...one couldn't help but notice Fowley immediately assumed the position
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SpookysToy
>It's rumored that on 08 Dec 1999 08:08:05 GMT, spook...@aol.comedy
>(SpookysToy) shared the following:
>
>>Deborah opined:
>>
>>>Mulder is no longer color blind. There hasn't been a mention of it since
>>>Wetwired. I tell you, the oileans miraculously cured him.
>>
>>So the writers are supposed to mention in every episode each characteristic
>or
>>flaw the characters possess?
>
>Of course not. The writers made this an issue, however, when they made
>Mulder being red/green color blind a major plot point back in Wetwired.
>That was the only reason given for him being unaffected by the control
>signal. If they didn't want something to have consequences, they should
>never have added this in to Mulder's history.
>
>The fact that it's been ignored in ever episode since is merely more proof
>that 1013 isn't concerned if their stories contradict one another.
Not that I'm disputing the lack of concern for continuity, but what other eps
should have made use of Mulder's red/green colorblindness?
Teddi Litman
SpookysToy wrote:
>
>
> Not that I'm disputing the lack of concern for continuity, but what other eps
> should have made use of Mulder's red/green colorblindness?
>
Other episodes (i.e. the ones mentioned in this thread) shouldn't
*contradict* his color vision deficiency. His color perception
is different enough from Scully's to keep him sane while
she became psychotic in "Wetwired." He shouldn't be calling
her attention to specific colors in "Rush" and "Rain King"
when it has been established he's consciously aware that they perceive
colors differently. My experience with people who know they have
color vision deficiencies is that they tend to avoid making
definitive statements about the color of things even in trivial
matters. Mulder should not have confidently pointed to his suspect using
*color* as evidence!
Teddi
Marilyn Mosher
>Tom wrote:
Well, in "Roland", Mulder *shouldn't* have been able to pick Roland's green
shirt out of all the shirts in the closet. Which probably proves that he had
temporary colourblindness.
Marilyn
>Not that I'm disputing the lack of concern for continuity, but what other eps
>should have made use of Mulder's red/green colorblindness?
>Spooky's Toy
Christina Buck
and dreams? the point of light he was to "follow" in the dreams was
RED. so is he not color blind in his dreams?
i know analyzing every single detail ad nauseam is the m.o. for this ng
but c'mon!!!
Alicia Mae
like that of the coat would've been a very distinctive grey would it not?
By the way...I didn't know he was colorblind!
Which episode was it?
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Marc Germain <servi...@videotron.ca> wrote in article
<1xj34.330$nx1....@wagner.videotron.net>...
> Rush rush
>
> Mulder is color blind....( remember the episode when scully got kind of
> crazy by watching those tapes...Mulder wasn't touch because he is color
> blind..).....
>
> So...how did mulder could see those color of the college coats....
>
Deborah
SpookysToy <spook...@aol.comedy> wrote in message
news:19991208030805...@ng-ce1.aol.com...
> Deborah opined:
> >Mulder is no longer color blind. There hasn't been a mention of it since
> >Wetwired. I tell you, the oileans miraculously cured him.
>
> So the writers are supposed to mention in every episode each
characteristic or
> flaw the characters possess?
> Spooky's Toy
No, but when is the last time you heard it referred to or saw evidence of
it? It was used as a plot device in Wetwired and then summarily dropped.
Besides, I was just having a little fun with 1013's Carternuity.
Deborah
Deborah
snip
> >Mulder is no longer color blind. There hasn't been a mention of it since
> >Wetwired. I tell you, the oileans miraculously cured him.
> So the writers are supposed to mention in every episode each
characteristic or
> flaw the characters possess?
> Spooky's Toy
Let me get this right, you are saying there is no continuity problem, that
Mulder IS colorblind?
Well that's just wrong. :o)
Deborah
wherever
just saw TOE again the other night on FX and boy does that one sting -
he was NOT kidding when he delivered that line) which has been a
recurring theme all through the beginning of the series from the
Pilot, how can they be expected to remember that he was color blind,
something that only came up in one ep?
Continuity? What continuity?
On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 23:27:42 -0500, that poster we all love, Teddi
Litman <dayb...@ix.netcom.com> summoned up all their courage and
blurted out:
wherever, at primenet dot com
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Deborah
StalkerChick <stalke...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
snip god reasoning
> Thus the only thing to do if you're concerned about it all making sense
> is pretend that episode didn't exist, or else make up your own reasons
> why Mulder didn't go crazy, as the writers should have done.
Ahem! It was a miracle I tell you. :o).
Deborah
Brandon Ray
StalkerChick wrote:
> Mulder's color blindness was a "deus ex machina" in the episode
> Wetwired that gave the writers an excuse to keep him sane enough to
> solve the case. It was never mentioned before, and it has never been
> mentioned since. That's what's known as a plot device pulled out of
> thin air. It's also what's known as bad writing.
>
> While one can argue for days over whether it should have affected other
> episodes or not (the red blotch on the radar in Rain King is a classic
> example), one would be missing out on the most important logical gap
> here. The FBI does not hire color-blind agents. Visual acuity is an
> extremely important criterion.
Yep. When it's subtle, it can also be very hard to detect. This topic
has been discussed time and again in the various xf ng's, and people who
are color blind or know those who are report that sometimes the person
with the visual defect does not, herself, know that she has it. It can
espect detection for years, and apparently sometimes develops later in
life. From these accounts, it does not seem impossible that Mulder's
color blindness could have escaped the Bureau's attention. All of the
complaints that this represents bad writing and that Mulder would never be
able to see Scully's hair color or be an FBI agent appear to me to
represent a misunderstand of what color blindness is and is not.
Brandon Ray
wherever wrote:
> Well, if the writers can't remember than Mulder is a psychologist (I
> just saw TOE again the other night on FX and boy does that one sting -
> he was NOT kidding when he delivered that line) which has been a
> recurring theme all through the beginning of the series from the
> Pilot, how can they be expected to remember that he was color blind,
> something that only came up in one ep?
>
> Continuity? What continuity?
>
Of course, Mulder is *not* a psychologist. There's nothing on the show to
suggest that he's ever worked with patients in a clinical setting. He's just
a cop with a degree in psychology, and there *is* a difference. I think his
statement in ToE was correct.
XXXXgizzieXXXX
Teddi Litman <> wrote
>He shouldn't be calling
> her attention to specific colors in "Rush"
If we REALLY want to pick a nit (who, us??), Mulder is studying the
image, makes an "ah-HA!" face, Scully says "What?" and Mulder
**questions** "You recognize these colors, Scully?"
Maybe he wasn't sure, because he couldn't see them. Maybe.
XXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXX
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Spooky's Toy
Did I *say* there is no continuity problem? <checking the above
statement> No. Do I agree that there is a continuity problem? Heck yeah.
Personally, I think that argument can be successfully made with several
episodes, Wetwired included.
> Well that's just wrong. :o)
LOL I just imagine them adding lyrics to the opening theme, explaining
who each main character is and describing a few of their strengths and
weaknesses! It's like those bad YA series I remember reading as a kid,
where each new entry included a wrap-up of events in the previous books.
"Janey thought about the last month's prom dance, where Suzie had too
much spiked punch and danced with every boy the whole night!"
Spooky's Toy
Deborah
Brandon Ray <pub...@avalon.net> wrote in message
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snip
> Of course, Mulder is *not* a psychologist. There's nothing on the show to
> suggest that he's ever worked with patients in a clinical setting. He's
just
> a cop with a degree in psychology, and there *is* a difference. I think
his
> statement in ToE was correct.
Well that was my take as well, but hoo boy there are a lot of folk who do
not see it this way. Some of them will probably reply.
Deborah
Deborah
Spooky's Toy <spook...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Deborah wrote:
snip
> > > >Mulder is no longer color blind. There hasn't been a mention of it
since Wetwired. I tell you, the oileans miraculously cured him.
> > > So the writers are supposed to mention in every episode each
characteristic or flaw the characters possess?
> > > Spooky's Toy
> > Let me get this right, you are saying there is no continuity problem,
that Mulder IS colorblind?
> Did I *say* there is no continuity problem?
No but I never said the writers were "supposed to mention in every episode
each characteristic or flaw the characters possess". So who started this
mistatement fest? Must have been you.
And surely you realized from the way I wrote that sentence I was
kidding--well except for the color blind part, and I stick with my statement
below. If you think Mulder is still colorblind after all these year--
> > Well that's just wrong. :o)
Deborah
No Such Agency
>
>yeah but can't color blind people see variances of grey and bright colors
>like that of the coat would've been a very distinctive grey would it not?
>By the way...I didn't know he was colorblind!
>Which episode was it?
Mulder is "red-green" colour blind. He doesn't see the world in black &
white, but he has trouble distinguishing red & green from each other. In
"Wetwired", the mind-control signal was in red and green, and so he would have
seen it all messed up and apparently nonfunctional.
Poor Mulder, never to truly appreciate the subtle nuances of his partner's
lovely hair ;-)
HTH,
Allison
SpookysToy
>SpookysToy wrote:
>>
>> Not that I'm disputing the lack of concern for continuity, but what other
>eps
>> should have made use of Mulder's red/green colorblindness?
>>
>
>Other episodes (i.e. the ones mentioned in this thread) shouldn't
>*contradict* his color vision deficiency. His color perception
>is different enough from Scully's to keep him sane while
>she became psychotic in "Wetwired." He shouldn't be calling
>her attention to specific colors in "Rush" and "Rain King"
>when it has been established he's consciously aware that they perceive
>colors differently. My experience with people who know they have
>color vision deficiencies is that they tend to avoid making
>definitive statements about the color of things even in trivial
>matters. Mulder should not have confidently pointed to his suspect using
>*color* as evidence!
Thanks for the reasonable explanation, Teddi!
SpookysToy
>Spooky's Toy <spook...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:384EB5...@yahoo.com...
>Deborah wrote:
>snip
>> > > >Mulder is no longer color blind. There hasn't been a mention of it
>since Wetwired. I tell you, the oileans miraculously cured him.
>
>> > > So the writers are supposed to mention in every episode each
>characteristic or flaw the characters possess?
>
>> > > Spooky's Toy
BTW, was there a specific reason why you responded twice in separate posts to
this particular exchange?
>> > Let me get this right, you are saying there is no continuity problem,
>that Mulder IS colorblind?
>
>> Did I *say* there is no continuity problem?
>
>No but I never said the writers were "supposed to mention in every episode
>each characteristic or flaw the characters possess".
I didn't say you said any such thing.
So who started this
>mistatement fest? Must have been you.
"Mistatement fest?" Rather an reaction, wouldn't you say? No, don't answer
that, we're obviously not anywhere near in sync. :) Don't want any more
misstatement fests!
>And surely you realized from the way I wrote that sentence I was
>kidding
Sorry for the misunderstanding, the post seemed to me somewhat snotty, but I'm
not familiar with your posting style. So this was kidding and not a
misstatement fest?
--well except for the color blind part, and I stick with my statement
>below. If you think Mulder is still colorblind after all these year--
Well, now I'm concerned that you didn't get my full response to your post. Did
you miss or simply skip the part where I agreed with you? I can repost it, if
you missed it.