Mulder's Mother
Phillip J. Trobaugh
PALM
just della
On 18 May 1996 02:17:46 GMT, tali...@ix.netcom.com(Phillip J. Trobaugh ) was urged
to share:
>PALM
so cool . . .
LISA LOISELLE
I got that PALM thing, like, the moment he entered the house looking for
something. Well, I guess *we* know Mrs. No-Name Mulder never worked in
the cryptography labs...
Lisa
who is smug but still unsure
Eleven Shadows
Best Boy wrote:
>
> In article <4njc0a$7...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, tali...@ix.netcom.com(Phillip J. Trobaugh ) says:
> >
> >PALM
>
> Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
> looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
> an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
>
> But one year later, he's got riddle solving problems superior
> to the Riddler.
>
> How much more obscure can the writer be?
I think the only reason he got is was because he was searching the summer house
and it occured to him that it might be a clue as to where "it" was.
He certainly didn't recognize it right off!
-Burglar
Karen Green
On 18 May 1996, Best Boy wrote:
> >PALM
>
> Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
> looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
> an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
>
> But one year later, he's got riddle solving problems superior
> to the Riddler.
Well, Best Boy, I think everyone understands that you didn't like the
show, and are sad about the departures of Morgan, Wong, and Morgan, but I
think you haven't thought through a few of your complaints. Scully had
already told Mulder that his mother's condition can result in speech and
language problems. He simply realized, due to this, that she had
scrambled the letters as a result of the stroke, not as an encrypted clue.
Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
Karen
Kyle Dane
In <4njc0a$7...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>
tali...@ix.netcom.com(Phillip J. Trobaugh ) writes:
>
>PALM
= LAMP
Joe michael Perillo
In <4njobk$a...@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> boy@intenet (Best Boy) writes:
>
>In article <4njc0a$7...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,
tali...@ix.netcom.com(Phillip J. Trobaugh ) says:
>>
>
>Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
>looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
>an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
>
>But one year later, he's got riddle solving problems superior
>to the Riddler.
>
of the stroke or is she testing him
Lance Ball
Karen Green (kl...@columbia.edu) wrote:
: On 18 May 1996, Best Boy wrote:
: > >PALM
: >
: > Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
: > looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
: > an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
: >
: > But one year later, he's got riddle solving problems superior
: > to the Riddler.
: Well, Best Boy, I think everyone understands that you didn't like the
: show, and are sad about the departures of Morgan, Wong, and Morgan, but I
: think you haven't thought through a few of your complaints. Scully had
: already told Mulder that his mother's condition can result in speech and
: language problems. He simply realized, due to this, that she had
: scrambled the letters as a result of the stroke, not as an encrypted clue.
: Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
: shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
Come on. It wasn't that difficult. Give me another word besides
'LAMP' or 'PALM' spelled with thosse four letters. (Of course, that
said, I'm sure now that there must be). Anyway, I figured it out
the second he sat down on the couch.
BTW, Best Boy. I have to agree with Karen. There's a difference
between plot holes and witholding information so that there is something
to look forward to. There's also a difference between plot holes and
having an alien morph-guy park 50 feet away. That's not a plot hole,
that's a device which gives us time to see Mulder and Scully react,
and hear Jerimiah Smith say 'He's here to kill me'.
-LB
: Karen
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JimKing
In article <4njn1s$f...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,
ckd...@ix.netcom.com(Kyle Dane ) writes:
PAM L. Pamela Lee! "X-Files" rips off "Baywatch" again!
~ Jim
Ken Seergobin
In article <Pine.SUN.3.93L.96051...@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>,
>show, and are sad about the departures of Morgan, Wong, and Morgan, but I
>think you haven't thought through a few of your complaints. Scully had
>already told Mulder that his mother's condition can result in speech and
>language problems. He simply realized, due to this, that she had
>scrambled the letters as a result of the stroke, not as an encrypted clue.
>Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
>shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
>
>
I don't believe that stroke patients are inclined to make
phonological recoding errors (eg., PALM = LAMP). It is more
likely that the error would be of a semantic nature
(LAMP = CANDLE).
Ken
(The above represents the post finale discussion with a couple
of friends.)
Ken Seergobin
In article <DrM3E...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>,
Ken Seergobin <bes...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>In article <Pine.SUN.3.93L.96051...@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>,
>
>I don't believe that stroke patients are inclined to make
>phonological recoding errors (eg., PALM = LAMP). It is more
>likely that the error would be of a semantic nature
>(LAMP = CANDLE).
>
The above should read 'orthographic error'.
Ken
magic
On May 18, 1996 15:25:12 in article <Re: Anyone come close to missing the
PALM? Re: Mulder's Mother>, 'asyl...@ix.netcom.com(Joe michael Perillo)'
wrote:
>Did mulders mom write PALM because she wasn't thinkin straight because
>of the stroke or is she testing him
skills, which I took to be the set up for her writing PALM and not LAMP.
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Best Boy
In article <4njc0a$7...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, tali...@ix.netcom.com(Phillip J. Trobaugh ) says:
>
Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
But one year later, he's got riddle solving problems superior
to the Riddler.
How much more obscure can the writer be?
Jennifer Liu-Grushka
In article <319D84...@primenet.com>, Eleven Shadows
<Bur...@primenet.com> wrote:
> Best Boy wrote:
> >
> > In article <4njc0a$7...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,
tali...@ix.netcom.com(Phillip J. Trobaugh ) says:
> > >
> > >PALM
> >
> > Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
> > looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
> > an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
> >
He was also under the influence of drugs at the time. They were covertly
drugging the water supply to his apartment building with some pretty
mind-altering chemicals. I am not suprised his concentration and
obxervation skills were on the fritz.
-Jen
--
"I didn't say he was Alex Trebek...
I said he LOOKED like Alex Trebek.
Best Boy
In article <319D84...@primenet.com>, Eleven Shadows <Bur...@primenet.com> says:
>I think the only reason he got is was because he was searching the summer house
>and it occured to him that it might be a clue as to where "it" was.
>
>He certainly didn't recognize it right off!
>
>-Burglar
And it's usually only Scully who develops those physic Scully looks.
What is this? Equal time? Oh, no wonder, Duchovny is providing 'story'
ideas.
Best Boy
In article <Pine.SUN.3.93L.96051...@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>, Karen Green <kl...@columbia.edu> says:
>
>Well, Best Boy, I think everyone understands that you didn't like the
Actually, buried in my whopping 25 posts (but who's counting),
I actually say that I did like the show - I just said that it was flawed.
Because I'm very nonchalant and detached from pure adulation, I can
see the flaws with my spectrascopic eye piece.
>show, and are sad about the departures of Morgan, Wong, and Morgan, but I
Okay I was overdramatizing it a teeny bit.
>think you haven't thought through a few of your complaints. Scully had
>already told Mulder that his mother's condition can result in speech and
>language problems. He simply realized, due to this, that she had
>scrambled the letters as a result of the stroke, not as an encrypted clue.
>Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
>shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
>
>Karen
Why yes, why slur your words into other words, why slur LAMP to PALM and
not LMPA or even miss a vowel or consonant?
Best Boy
In article <DrM3E...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, bes...@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Ken Seergobin) says:
>
>In article <Pine.SUN.3.93L.96051...@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>,
>>Scully had
>>already told Mulder that his mother's condition can result in speech and
>>language problems. He simply realized, due to this, that she had
>>scrambled the letters as a result of the stroke, not as an encrypted clue.
>>Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
>>shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
>>Karen
>
>phonological recoding errors (eg., PALM = LAMP). It is more
>(LAMP = CANDLE).
>
>(The above represents the post finale discussion with a couple
>of friends.)
Wow finally some support, when I see slurring patients, they just
plain slur, they don't retain all the necessary vowels and consonants
and make another word with them...
Champey
In article <4njobk$a...@carrera.intergate.bc.ca>, boy@intenet (Best Boy)
writes:
>Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
>looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
>an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm
You have forgotten one vital piece of information in this scenario - - At
the time of the Navajo code situation he was under the influence of a
psychosis inducing drug that was being covertly piped into his apartment
via the water system. Hence he was running on a short fuse.
Barbara
Mary Sue Haliburton
Maybe Mrs. MUlder scrambled the word on purpose? After all, she
wrote clearly, not in shaky letters? Just in case someone else
saw it. After all, she had just had a rather trying encounter
with Cancerman (who has now been told he has cancer! Good touch)
--
For us it takes a thousand voices, a million angry shouts
To notify the ship of state to bring its course about...
James Keelaghan, song "Hold Your Ground", on My Skies album.
Karen Green
On 18 May 1996, Lance Ball wrote:
> Karen Green (kl...@columbia.edu) wrote:
> : Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
> : shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
>
> Come on. It wasn't that difficult. Give me another word besides
> 'LAMP' or 'PALM' spelled with thosse four letters. (Of course, that
> said, I'm sure now that there must be). Anyway, I figured it out
> the second he sat down on the couch.
Actually, that was my point. It wasn't that difficult so, as Gabrielle
posted, having him write it was "overkill." I would have felt more
comfortable with him saying it aloud, I guess. If they needed (for our
sakes) to show him writing it, then I just think they shouls have shown a
need for him to write it, by making at least one false start. Because
there _was_ no reason for him to write it.
Karen
shaden marzouk
Hello! Mulder was inadvertantly on some serious drugs during that ep!
That's why his attention span and powers of concentration were
considerably diminished when he looked at the DOD tape!
shaden marzouk
shaden marzouk
Hello! Mulder was involuntarily on some serious drugs during that ep!
His powers of concentration (and patience) were compromised, and that
explains his behavior upon viewing the DOD tape!
Chris Williams
Karen Green <kl...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>On 18 May 1996, Best Boy wrote:
>> >PALM
>>
>> Everyone except Mulder would have missed it? This is a guy who
>> looked at last year's Navajo code and gave up after two seconds - not
>> an exaggeration - just rewind your tapes to confirm.
>>
>> But one year later, he's got riddle solving problems superior
>> to the Riddler.
>Well, Best Boy, I think everyone understands that you didn't like the
>show, and are sad about the departures of Morgan, Wong, and Morgan, but I
>think you haven't thought through a few of your complaints. Scully had
>already told Mulder that his mother's condition can result in speech and
>language problems. He simply realized, due to this, that she had
>scrambled the letters as a result of the stroke, not as an encrypted clue.
>Though I wish, if they were going to show him writing it, that they had
>shown at least one false start: PLAM or MALP or something.
>Karen
Interesting point, Karen. I disagree. It was necessary to smash one
lamp unfruitfully to make it reasonable to find the pigsticker in
the 2nd, and in a houseful of lamps, there's no way they could
afford the footage of film smashing, say, ten before it shows in
the 11th. But by having it be something other than the first they
address the fictional imperative to be credible without burning
too much film. For PALM -> LAMP the same constraints hold.
If there were another English word, it would work, but the way
it happened was brilliant. Mulder's spooky penchant for
quantum leaps of logic make it acceptable. And not so with
which lamp the device was in.
Chris
K81E
Karen Green (kl...@columbia.edu) wrote:
>It wasn't that difficult so, as Gabrielle
posted, having him write it was "overkill." I would have felt more
comfortable with him saying it aloud, I guess. If they needed (for our
sakes) to show him writing it, then I just think they shouls have shown a
need for him to write it, by making at least one false start. Because
there _was_ no reason for him to write it.<
I don't know if you're familiar with the theories of educational
psychologists that people tend to use one sensory method above all others
to gather info and solve problems. As a visual person, I can tell you
that I could never have worked out PALM/LAMP without a piece of paper,
whereas a audio or kinesthetic person (which you might very well be) would
never understand why I'd have to write it out. I bet FM is a visual
learner as well, or at least CC is.
Or then again, maybe I'm just analysing this way too much
Kate
"Cease and Desist, Nasty-doers!" -- The Tick
Ken Seergobin
In article <4nsskn$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, K81E <k8...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>I don't know if you're familiar with the theories of educational
>psychologists that people tend to use one sensory method above all others
>to gather info and solve problems.
This seems unlikely. I'm willing to bet that a majority
of problems encompass a number of processing modalities.
From input to output many systems (visual, auditory, language,...)
may become involved. Because the overt aspects of problem
solving may involve the use of pencil and paper (i.e.,
drawing a picture, working out a word problem) it is not
a direct indicator that one system is being utilized.
(Having said the above I can see that some problems are
inherently - visual (face recognition), auditory (music
composition), motor (throwing a ball)...Even these examples
stretch the notion of one sensory dominating.)
>As a visual person, I can tell you
>that I could never have worked out PALM/LAMP without a piece of paper,
>whereas a audio or kinesthetic person (which you might very well be) would
>never understand why I'd have to write it out. I bet FM is a visual
>learner as well, or at least CC is.
The use of pen and paper in this instance is perhaps an
expression of the processing that is occurring within
the language centres. Further writing down ones thoughts
or actions works as FEEDBACK (no learning) that modifies future
actions. So, one can easily see the chain of events being
PALM -> MALP -> LAMP *not* PALM -> MALP -> MALP -> MALP -> LAMP.
Writing down thoughts/actions reduces the burden on memory.
>
>Or then again, maybe I'm just analysing this way too much
My take on the situation is that the writer(s) were trying
to kill two birds with one stone.
1. Mulder writing down both PALM and LAMP ensured
that the entire audience followed the logic. That
is, he did not make a magical leap. As a best
guess he may have suspected that his mothers
brain injuries due to the stroke has lead to
language difficulties (common).
2. Reinforce the fact that the stroke has left Mulder's
mom at less than full capacity.
>
>Kate
>
Ken