Just saw Full Frontal
trajan
(Room to go back now, just in case)
Soderbergh should be ashamed of this piece of dreck. I nearly
left after 40 minutes of nothing, but stuck it out because I
wanted to see what the Canon XL15 I think that's the camera
model) could do.
Yuck.
Regards,
Trajan
(This is a highly personal opinion--flames will be ignored)
Buffy
Buffy
trajan
>
> So I guess you are in the "hate it" crowd.
>
> Buffy
Apparently. But I went in with high expectations.
T
Buffy
I haven't seen it yet (I'm not really near any of the markets where it's
opening) and I have seen people who really loved and people who really hated it
(both viewers and critics). Believe it or not, I have no expectations. From
what I have read, it kind of sounds like a movie I would like and I know DD is
only in it for a short period, but I don't know if I'll like it or not. Give
me a year, when I finally do see it, to weigh in.
Buffy
trajan
Fair enough!
T
laura capozzola
I honestly don't know what the movie is about, other than it's a
movie in a movie, but I think people in Hollywood think "their
process" for making a movie is a lot more fascinating than the
average person does.
It is much like, some actors, who when given a chance to write an
episode of their TV show, want to explore their own character
from their perspective, something that may be fascinating to them
but not entertainment to the rest of us who have to watch a story
with no plot. DD didn't do that and that's why The Unnatural is
a pretty **entertaining** episode/story. GA did and while her's
may have interested some people, it was not entertaining
story/plot-wise.
The question is, would anyone have paid attention to this FF
movie if someone other than Soderbergh had made it? I thought
Sex, Lies and Videotape was a big snooze, too, but I loved
Traffic.
Laura
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Marlene Steinberg
laura capozzola wrote:
I liked Full Frontal more then i thought i would but it's a one time
only for me. I never saw Sex, Lies and Video Tape so i haven't any idea
if the two are in any way alike. If it were not for DD being in the
movie i doubt i would have gone. Guess i am a good DD fan since i sat
through the movie for just maybe 7 minutes of DD/Gus. It's to bad,
because his character looked to be very interesting. Maybe they will
have some added footage if it comes out on DVD. I just think all those
actors that participated did this to work with Steven. Even though David
had the least time in the movie he still went out to promote it. I'll
bet anything that he will work with Steven S one day on another movie.
Marlene
trajan
>
>
> I honestly don't know what the movie is about, other than it's a
> movie in a movie, but I think people in Hollywood think "their
> process" for making a movie is a lot more fascinating than the
> average person does.
That's for sure! Actually making a film is dull, boring work.
>
> It is much like, some actors, who when given a chance to write an
> episode of their TV show, want to explore their own character
> from their perspective, something that may be fascinating to them
> but not entertainment to the rest of us who have to watch a story
> with no plot. DD didn't do that and that's why The Unnatural is
> a pretty **entertaining** episode/story. GA did and while her's
> may have interested some people, it was not entertaining
> story/plot-wise.
I agree. I seem to recall the average XF episode cost something
like $1.5 million to make. FF cost $2 million and was shot in 18
days from a script not written by Soderbergh. Yet the XF
eps--even the worst--are superior in quality of
story/production.
>
> The question is, would anyone have paid attention to this FF
> movie if someone other than Soderbergh had made it?
After having seen it, I'd have to say no. While I don't think FF
will do much to harm his reputation (his studio film work is too
good), it certainly won't help much.
I thought
> Sex, Lies and Videotape was a big snooze, too, but I loved
> Traffic.
Interesting: I had exactly the opposite reaction. I thought SL&V
was daring and original, and found Traffic to
be...um...pedestrian. :)
However, if you see FF, I hope you enjoy it. (Different strokes
and all that.)
Regards,
Trajan
laura capozzola
>
> I agree. I seem to recall the average XF episode cost something
> like $1.5 million to make.
You are waaaaaay off. They were spending $3 - 5 million per ep
towards the end there (since in LA). The $5m number I think is
what they spent on the 2 hour finale. Dark Angel was pretty
close to it, too, but since they filmed in Vancouver their budget
probably went further. I bet CC never gets money like that
again. I bet no TV executive producer does.
FF cost $2 million and was shot in 18
> days from a script not written by Soderbergh. Yet the XF
> eps--even the worst--are superior in quality of
> story/production.
Yeah, except for lighting guy and his half-face shadows and blue
lights. Do you know how many half-a-face 8x10s I have. I was
watching Season 9 rooting for them to go outdoors in the daytime
just so I would get better photos. My fave X-Files stills
(season 8 or 9) are from the episodes Without and John Doe
because they went outside a lot in the daytime. I liked the
gloom of the old X-Files but c'mon, the FBI isn't a mausoleum
inside, it's a modern building with well-lit offices...but I
digress. Yes, we have been spoiled by the production values of
The X-Files.
>
> >
> > The question is, would anyone have paid attention to this FF
> > movie if someone other than Soderbergh had made it?
>
> After having seen it, I'd have to say no. While I don't think FF
> will do much to harm his reputation (his studio film work is too
> good), it certainly won't help much.
They probably want him to do something else and this is how they
wooed him.
> I thought
> > Sex, Lies and Videotape was a big snooze, too, but I loved
> > Traffic.
>
> Interesting: I had exactly the opposite reaction. I thought SL&V
> was daring and original, and found Traffic to
> be...um...pedestrian. :)
>
> However, if you see FF, I hope you enjoy it. (Different strokes
> and all that.)
TV, maybe.
WG...@webtv.net
$2 million to make. They are predicting $3-4 million domestic, not bad
for a "Home Movie"! So even Soderbergs "Bad Movies", make a profit. I
think his job is pretty secure, and now they will let him do anything he
wants to! LOL!
BILL
trajan
>
>
>
> You are waaaaaay off. They were spending $3 - 5 million per ep
> towards the end there (since in LA).
Whoa. Heavy bread.
>
> FF cost $2 million and was shot in 18
> > days from a script not written by Soderbergh. Yet the XF
> > eps--even the worst--are superior in quality of
> > story/production.
>
> Yeah, except for lighting guy and his half-face shadows and blue
> lights. Do you know how many half-a-face 8x10s I have. I was
> watching Season 9 rooting for them to go outdoors in the daytime
> just so I would get better photos. My fave X-Files stills
> (season 8 or 9) are from the episodes Without and John Doe
> because they went outside a lot in the daytime.
The exteriors in FF (the ones shot in DV) are burned so hot they
are almost completely washed out.
I liked the
> gloom of the old X-Files but c'mon, the FBI isn't a mausoleum
> inside, it's a modern building with well-lit offices...but I
> digress.
I agree...so you can imagine how rough (read: lousy) FF is in
comparison.
Yes, we have been spoiled by the production values of
> The X-Files.
> >
> > >
> > > The question is, would anyone have paid attention to this FF
> > > movie if someone other than Soderbergh had made it?
> >
> > After having seen it, I'd have to say no. While I don't think FF
> > will do much to harm his reputation (his studio film work is too
> > good), it certainly won't help much.
>
> They probably want him to do something else and this is how they
> wooed him.
Possibly.
:)
T
trajan
I'm sure you're right! But I wasn't commenting on the box
office...just my opinion of the content/production. A lot of
people will see anything with Soderbergh's name on it--I did.
T
TPPBfan
Overseas rights were secured for 7 million,the show made money before it opened
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