A Y2K Question
Des
1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
I've heard people say they are getting money out of the bank, and the
current local joke is about having enough toilet tissue, but I have no real
sense of what might occur. Since I'll be onstage at 12:00 and I hate not
being prepared, I'd like to know what could happen.
I'm already nervous about this gig(why oh why, did I say YES?) but since I
heard an announcement from the Prez today saying that MOST people have
nothing to worry about, though SOME might still have some...concerns, it's
been making me freak more than just the usual nervousness before a big show.
I know that there are alot of people here that work with computers and know
them inside and out.
So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
Des
*extremely* nervous about her gig AND Y2K!!
Konrad Douglas Frye
<snip>
>I know that there are alot of people here that work with computers and know
>them inside and out. So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
I'd worry about the power going out. If that happens, human stupidity will
almost certainly kick in and make a bad situation worse.
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Adhokk7
>If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
>1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
Here's what I think:
Civilization will end at midnight and the end will come in waves. Initially,
mass power outages and the resulting rioting will be the major causes of
damage. In hospitals, those attached to machines which help them breathe will
die. Aboard airplanes, people returning to their homes in Topeka, Wheeling,
Portland, and Biloxi will feel what they think and instantly pray is
turbulence, only to quickly realize they are experiencing their final moments.
There will be many gunshot injuries and savage beatings within the half-hour
after the lights go out.
In missle silos, aboard submarines, and in fortresses with electronic
connections to satellites, gauges will be monitors feverishly, but to no avail.
Missles will be launched. Defensive strikes will be launched.
Rioting will spread. Blood will spill. In those parts left unaffected by
missle strikes, chaos will become an every day fact of life.
And still, Matthew Broderick will remain famous.
-ad, optimist :-)
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>
> If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
> 1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
> current local joke is about having enough toilet tissue, but I have no
real
> sense of what might occur. Since I'll be onstage at 12:00 and I hate not
> being prepared, I'd like to know what could happen.
> I'm already nervous about this gig(why oh why, did I say YES?) but since I
> heard an announcement from the Prez today saying that MOST people have
> nothing to worry about, though SOME might still have some...concerns,
it's
> been making me freak more than just the usual nervousness before a big
show.
know
> them inside and out.
> So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
>
> *extremely* nervous about her gig AND Y2K!!
The worst thing that could happen that night is that the power could go
out. *But* there are 23 time zones before the Pacific, and 3 in North
America alone, so we'll know *way* before midnight if we're going to
have problems.
Don't worry about anything except how hot you're going to look in
that dress ;-D
--
Adora
Cherry Sundae
FEB
"Screw you guys. I'm goin' home."
Sean Carroll
>
> If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
> 1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
The only disaster on Friday will be the freaking mobs of insane,
paranoid, totally credulous people who don't have the education to even
turn on a computer let alone set the date on one who will go nuts and
release a flood of suicides, robberies, murders, terrorist acts,
assaults, vandalism, and those stupid little 'God Loves You' pamphlets,
blame everything on the decay of morals and the evils of industrialised
technology, think that a local blackout is the end of the world and
start shooting people, lose all touch with reality, start a racist
backlash against anyone who's not a Western-European Causasian, and
otherwise wreak mayhem and mischief of multitudinous means, while all
the time the computers go chugging along as smoothly as ever while Bill
Gates laughs maniacally at the sight of the power he has to bring the
world to its knees in front of him.
In other words, it will be a most typical American cultural event, just
like every other day but more so.
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power goes out." And it's a small hall, so I'll be able to call the dances. I'm
sure someone will provide candles; it's in a church basement during a First
Night shindig.
As for the home front, the 10-lb heater cat might come in handy.
--Karen in Ann Arbor
Katrina
>If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
>1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
I think the biggest problem will be companies who have ignored obscure date
references in their billing systems. Everyone was so desperate to get Tier
1/Critical apps tested that some of the accounting stuff fell by the wayside.
Katrina
^..^
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-- Dean Haglund <--fuckin' up
Doug Herzog Y1 -- or maybe not.
Sean Carroll
>
> Rioting will spread. Blood will spill. In those parts left unaffected by
> missle strikes, chaos will become an every day fact of life.
> And still, Matthew Broderick will remain famous.
So, basically, we'll have that instant anarchy you've been pushing for.
Paul Poroshin
> 1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
at 12:00 (assuming you mean AM) on December 31, 1999 nothing will happen.
now 12:00 AM, January 1, 2000, that's the Y2K thing, which is nothing more
than hype.
Lulu
>Don't worry about anything except how hot you're going to look in
>that dress ;-D
I agree with this post :-) Try not to worry, but if you must, listen to
Katrina and Adora here, and *not* ad, who is being a poopyhead ;-P
Good luck at the gig!
.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Lulu
KKGB, Proud new Protector of S.R. 819
"mwagok!"--Mulder, TGV
Caffeine Cal
Konrad Douglas Frye wrote in message
<2Lha4.24607$JS.7...@typhoon.mbnet.mb.ca>...
>"Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> writes:
>
><snip>
>
>>I know that there are alot of people here that work with computers and
know
>>them inside and out. So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
>
Tell you what, those of us who aren't in the States will get to celebrate
Y2K (as opposed to the Millennium which happens next year, Maths Geeks!)a
few hours before you. I'm in GMT which is 5 hours before EST so I'll post
to the ng as soon after midnight, here, as I can. I don't think my family
would be too happy to have me surfing at the stroke of midnight!
Hopefully, all will be well and we'll all be too busy partying to worry
about getting bitten by the millennium bug!
Cal
GJJ
I have designed/built/tested whole electronic systems, individual
computers, electronic chips and software (in fact - my present job is
testing software).
The bad thing is: NO ONE knows IF there will be problems, HOW
WIDESPREAD any problems may be, HOW LONG any problems will last, WHEN
any problems will occur nor HOW SEVERE any problems may be. The
President of the United States does not have any special insight nor
clairvoyance nor control over worldly things...he HAS to say that as a
matter of policy.
Computers (and I include microprocessors and other timing chips) with
date/time dependent software/hardware are very widespread. Furthermore
- no one can view the amount of "connectivity" of these systems nor
predict any kind of "ripple effect" or "weakest link in the chain". I
know through experience in my work that I CANNOT possibly come up with
tests for ALL the possible ways a single piece of relatively simple,
small software will fail.
I know I didn't allay any fears with what I just wrote but let me
relate a little story:
Years ago, I was flying on a Lockheed L1011 jumbo jet (oddly enough -
to go interview with Boeing in Seattle). Around this timeframe, several
well-publicized crashes of DC-10s and L1011s were happening. There were
not many passengers on board this late at night during this time of
year enroute to Seattle. I was about the only person sitting in the
middle section of seats back in economy. There was a young guy sitting
in one of the outer section seats next to the window almost directly
over the wings. I swear that virtually the whole time we were in flight
- he was frightened (I could see him sweating, white-knuckled hands
with a "death grip" on the armrests, constantly moving his head around
out the window (it was a nighttime flight so I know he wasn't doing
much sightseeing). And I realized that - once that aircraft lifted off
the ground - there was NOTHING I could do about any major problems with
the aircraft. So - why worry about it?! If there is a minor emergency
INSIDE the aircraft - I MAY be able to assist in solving the problem.
If the plane crashes and I'm still alive - then I'll solve whatever
problems I have in front of me then.
The bottom line is: there is no sense worrying about Y2K problems NOW!
There ain't much you can do about any problems anyhow. Just take some
reasonable precautions (I have an earthquake survival pack in my car
that I've had for years, I took out a little extra cash and I plan on
filling up my car's tank but that's just me). Otherwise - I'll deal
with any day-to-day problems as they come up. Remember - we'll all be
in this together. I say: wow 'em at your gig!
GJJ
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Adhokk7
>Adhokk7 wrote:
>>
>> Rioting will spread. Blood will spill. In those parts left unaffected by
>> missle strikes, chaos will become an every day fact of life.
>> And still, Matthew Broderick will remain famous.
>
>So, basically, we'll have that instant anarchy you've been pushing for.
Most certainly not. I, despite my reactionary tendencies, would never advocate
forced anarchy through destruction. Anarchy would be achieved in that
scenario, but the delivery method is no good.
You do me a disservice by insisting to present only one possible outcome of
anarchy as the only outcome. To the contrary, with no overwhelming centralized
government I hold that many governments would fill that vacuum which you seem
to believe would breed only chaos. Governments would rightfully revert to
local manifestations. Not that those new local governments would unanimously
"good", but those which one found to be oppressive could be more easily avoided
than would an omnipresent and ubiquitous centralized government. In any
scenario, anarchy is a limited process because humans want to be governed. Or,
at least, humans want those yahoos down the street governed. But, the balance
of power which best maintains the individual's freedom to be what he or she
wants is best held by no or many small and diverse governments.
Plus, in my worldview of anarchy, Matthew Broderick is stripped of his satanic
powers.
Btw, you're too young to discuss with. ;P
-ad, not the garden of Eden
Sean Carroll
>
> You do me a disservice by insisting to present only one possible outcome of
> anarchy as the only outcome.
Well ... <blink blink> ... of *course* I do. The whole point is to do
you a disservice, because I disagree with your views. ;P
> Plus, in my worldview of anarchy, Matthew Broderick is stripped of his satanic
> powers.
That can only be enforced by a strong central authority. The
dictatorship of the proletariat is the only way to end the tyranny of
Broderick!
> Btw, you're too young to discuss with. ;P
Nah, you're just too old.
Adhokk7
>Adhokk7 wrote:
>>
>> You do me a disservice by insisting to present only one possible outcome of
>> anarchy as the only outcome.
>
>Well ... <blink blink> ... of *course* I do. The whole point is to do
>you a disservice, because I disagree with your views. ;P
I'll grant that there is a nice logic to that.
>> Plus, in my worldview of anarchy, Matthew Broderick is stripped of his
satanic
>> powers.
>
>That can only be enforced by a strong central authority. The
>dictatorship of the proletariat is the only way to end the tyranny of
>Broderick!
See, there ya go. Sell it to me based on what it can do for me. Of course,
this could just be a case of "any enemy of my enemy is my friend".
>> Btw, you're too young to discuss with. ;P
>
>Nah, you're just too old.
Yeah, but as long as he's alive, I'll never be older than Tom Cruise.
-ad, not Tom Cruise (I'm younger)
Sean Carroll
>
> Sean Carroll <se...@kua.net> wrote:
>
> >That can only be enforced by a strong central authority. The
> >dictatorship of the proletariat is the only way to end the tyranny of
> >Broderick!
>
> See, there ya go. Sell it to me based on what it can do for me.
Right, exactly. Do you really think that a whole bunch of local
governments, simultaneously and at once, will be able to legislate
against the evil forces of Broderick? Of course not. A single place that
did so would be crushed by the influence of all the Broderick-controlled
city-states around it. The only way to defeat Broderick's power is with
the force of world-wide socialist government!
> Of course,
> this could just be a case of "any enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Quite an undialectical way of looking at things, but hell -- if it
drives you over to my side, you didn't hear me say that.
Adhokk7
>Adhokk7 wrote:
>
>> Of course,
>> this could just be a case of "any enemy of my enemy is my friend".
>
>Quite an undialectical way of looking at things, but hell -- if it
>drives you over to my side, you didn't hear me say that.
I am the Hegelianest. Or would that be the UnHegelianest?
Sean Carroll
> >drives you over to my side, you didn't hear me say that.
>
> I am the Hegelianest. Or would that be the UnHegelianest?
It would be the Hegelianest, AntiHegelianest, and SynHegelianest.
Katrina
>I agree with this post :-) Try not to worry, but if you must, listen to
>Katrina and Adora here, and *not* ad, who is being a poopyhead ;-P
I agree with this post!
AD!!1! UR trouble!!1
Meg, the pasty paste eating diva
-0500, Sean Carroll <se...@kua.net> went forth and said:
>Right, exactly. Do you really think that a whole bunch of local
>governments, simultaneously and at once, will be able to legislate
>against the evil forces of Broderick? Of course not. A single place that
>did so would be crushed by the influence of all the Broderick-controlled
>city-states around it. The only way to defeat Broderick's power is with
>the force of world-wide socialist government!
Don't even try to defeat Broderick. Ed Rooney spent a good 90+ minutes
trying to figure out how to win over the Power of a
Broderick-controlled city, and he got nothing but bruises from
Jennifer Grey.
Meg
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Michael P. Walsh
Konrad Douglas Frye wrote:
> "Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I know that there are alot of people here that work with computers and know
> >them inside and out. So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
>
> I'd worry about the power going out. If that happens, human stupidity will
> almost certainly kick in and make a bad situation worse.
>
> ------
> Konrad Frye (k f r y e @ e s c a p e . c a)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Or what? You'll release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with the
> bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?"
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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We should be all OK unless the software idiots shown on one
of the Millenium shows are in charge somewhere.
The real Y2K problems won't be computer problems, but
worry about your fellow humans getting unhinged.
Mike Walsh
Michael P. Walsh
Sean Carroll wrote:
> Des wrote:
> >
> > If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
> > 1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
>
> The only disaster on Friday will be the freaking mobs of insane,
> paranoid, totally credulous people who don't have the education to even
> turn on a computer let alone set the date on one who will go nuts and
> release a flood of suicides, robberies, murders, terrorist acts,
> assaults, vandalism, and those stupid little 'God Loves You' pamphlets,
> blame everything on the decay of morals and the evils of industrialised
> technology, think that a local blackout is the end of the world and
> start shooting people, lose all touch with reality, start a racist
> backlash against anyone who's not a Western-European Causasian, and
> otherwise wreak mayhem and mischief of multitudinous means, while all
> the time the computers go chugging along as smoothly as ever while Bill
> Gates laughs maniacally at the sight of the power he has to bring the
> world to its knees in front of him.
>
> In other words, it will be a most typical American cultural event, just
> like every other day but more so.
>
> --
> --Sean
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/9613/
> 'The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways. The
> point is to change it.' --Karl Marx
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Quite a blast!
Do you really believe Western-European Causasians are the
only nuts in the world?
It seems that there is enough madness to go around, but
hopefully not a large number in any particular group.
Mike Walsh
maryanne
>
>If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at
>happen?
"Your identity will be deleted.
The bank will lose your money.
Your computer will fry.
Robot monkeys will eat your brain.
Yeah -- It's the end of the world."
--shamelessly stolen from FX promo for the "Millennium" marathon
maryanne
Muttering "Big piles of manure."
maryanne
>
>Adhokk7 wrote:
>> I am the Hegelianest. Or would that be the
>>UnHegelianest?
>
>It would be the Hegelianest, AntiHegelianest, and
>SynHegelianest.
Ooof!!! Very impressive!!! <doffing chapeau to Sean>
Ellie Presner
> Well, Des...
>
> I have designed/built/tested whole electronic systems, individual
> computers, electronic chips and software (in fact - my present job is
> testing software).
<snip>
> Years ago, I was flying on a Lockheed L1011 jumbo jet (oddly enough -
> to go interview with Boeing in Seattle). Around this timeframe, several
> well-publicized crashes of DC-10s and L1011s were happening. There were
> not many passengers on board this late at night during this time of
> year enroute to Seattle. I was about the only person sitting in the
> middle section of seats back in economy. There was a young guy sitting
> in one of the outer section seats next to the window almost directly
> over the wings. I swear that virtually the whole time we were in flight
> - he was frightened (I could see him sweating, white-knuckled hands
> with a "death grip" on the armrests, constantly moving his head around
> out the window (it was a nighttime flight so I know he wasn't doing
> much sightseeing). And I realized that - once that aircraft lifted off
> the ground - there was NOTHING I could do about any major problems with
> the aircraft. So - why worry about it?! If there is a minor emergency
> INSIDE the aircraft - I MAY be able to assist in solving the problem.
> If the plane crashes and I'm still alive - then I'll solve whatever
> problems I have in front of me then.
>
>
> The bottom line is: there is no sense worrying about Y2K problems NOW!
> There ain't much you can do about any problems anyhow. Just take some
> reasonable precautions (I have an earthquake survival pack in my car
> that I've had for years, I took out a little extra cash and I plan on
> filling up my car's tank but that's just me). Otherwise - I'll deal
> with any day-to-day problems as they come up. Remember - we'll all be
> in this together. I say: wow 'em at your gig!
U make some great sense there, GJJ! In a similar (but shorter;-)) vein,
I'd like to share a little thing with everyone. (Apologies to those who
might've seen this before):
WHY WORRY
Why worry?
Either you are sick or you are well.
If you are well, you have nothing to worry about.
If you're sick, you have only two things to worry about.
Either you could get better or you could die.
If you get better, you have nothing to worry about.
If you die, you have only two things to worry about.
Either you could go to Heaven, or you could go to Hell.
If you go to Heaven, you have nothing to worry about.
If you go to Hell, you'll be so busy saying "Hi!" to all your old
friends, you'll be too *busy* to worry about anything!
-- author unknown to me
Here's hoping for a Y2K-bug-free New Year's... but I'm *not* gonna worry
about it!
Ellie
--
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only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments
that differentiate me from a doormat."
-- Rebecca West, 1913
Michael P. Walsh
Sean Carroll wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:48:24 -0800, "Michael P. Walsh"
> <mp_w...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Do you really believe Western-European Causasians are the
> >only nuts in the world?
>
> Of course not, but American culture in particular has a marked
> tendency towards certain unique *brands* of nut-case-edness.
>
> --Sean
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/9613/
> 'The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways.
> The point is to change it.' --Karl Marx
---
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---
Well, I do agree with you, especially since I live in southern California
where there is a higher percentage than normal.
I will quibble about limiting it to Caucasians. We are fairly
equal-opportunity in the nut population out here.
Mike Walsh
Des
> "Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> wrote:
>
> >If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December
31
> >1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
>
> Civilization will end at midnight and the end will come in waves.
Initially,
> mass power outages and the resulting rioting will be the major causes of
> damage. In hospitals, those attached to machines which help them breathe
will
> die. Aboard airplanes, people returning to their homes in Topeka,
Wheeling,
> Portland, and Biloxi will feel what they think and instantly pray is
> turbulence, only to quickly realize they are experiencing their final
moments.
> There will be many gunshot injuries and savage beatings within the
half-hour
> after the lights go out.
> In missle silos, aboard submarines, and in fortresses with electronic
> connections to satellites, gauges will be monitors feverishly, but to no
avail.
> Missles will be launched. Defensive strikes will be launched.
by
> missle strikes, chaos will become an every day fact of life.
> And still, Matthew Broderick will remain famous.
Remind me NOT to come to you when I need support Ad. If, by some stroke of
fate I happen to forget that and come to you, please be a doll and remind me
of this post. OK?
Des
Des
> >Adora" hea...@nospam.ctaz.com
>
> >Don't worry about anything except how hot you're going to look in
> >that dress ;-D
>
LOL!!
> Try not to worry, but if you must, listen to
> Katrina and Adora here, and *not* ad, who is being a poopyhead ;-P
Yeah!! And here I thought we were friends :(
> Good luck at the gig!
> Lulu
Thanks, sweetie!
> KKGB, Proud new Protector of S.R. 819
Why does S.R. 819 need protecting?
Des
Des
> "Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> wrote:
> >
> > If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December
31
> > 1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
> > current local joke is about having enough toilet tissue, but I have no
> real
> > sense of what might occur. Since I'll be onstage at 12:00 and I hate not
> > being prepared, I'd like to know what could happen.
> > I'm already nervous about this gig(why oh why, did I say YES?) but since
I
> > heard an announcement from the Prez today saying that MOST people have
> > nothing to worry about, though SOME might still have some...concerns,
> it's
> > been making me freak more than just the usual nervousness before a big
> show.
> know
> > them inside and out.
> > So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
> >
> > *extremely* nervous about her gig AND Y2K!!
>
> The worst thing that could happen that night is that the power could go
> out. *But* there are 23 time zones before the Pacific, and 3 in North
> America alone, so we'll know *way* before midnight if we're going to
> have problems.
Ahh, that' s a good point.
> Don't worry about anything except how hot you're going to look in
> that dress ;-D
> Adora
Yeah that's my point! The lights go out and then some drunken reveler sees
it as the perfect opportunity to go after the girl in the gold dress!
Kicking some man's butt is not exactly how I planned on bringing in the New
Year :p
Des
Des
> Des wrote:
> >
> > If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December
31
> > 1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
>
> paranoid, totally credulous people who don't have the education to even
> turn on a computer let alone set the date on one who will go nuts and
> release a flood of suicides, robberies, murders, terrorist acts,
> assaults, vandalism, and those stupid little 'God Loves You' pamphlets,
> blame everything on the decay of morals and the evils of industrialised
> technology, think that a local blackout is the end of the world and
> start shooting people, lose all touch with reality, start a racist
> backlash against anyone who's not a Western-European Causasian, and
> otherwise wreak mayhem and mischief of multitudinous means, while all
> the time the computers go chugging along as smoothly as ever while Bill
> Gates laughs maniacally at the sight of the power he has to bring the
> world to its knees in front of him.
> In other words, it will be a most typical American cultural event, just
> like every other day but more so.
Gee, another encouraging post.
But I *did* like the Bill Gates remark, though.
Des
Des
> Well, Des...
>
> I have designed/built/tested whole electronic systems, individual
> computers, electronic chips and software (in fact - my present job is
> testing software).
Yes, I remember reading that somewhere.
> The bad thing is: NO ONE knows IF there will be problems, HOW
> WIDESPREAD any problems may be, HOW LONG any problems will last, WHEN
> any problems will occur nor HOW SEVERE any problems may be. The
> President of the United States does not have any special insight nor
> clairvoyance nor control over worldly things...he HAS to say that as a
> matter of policy.
So you're saying I shouldn't believe him? That he's just trying to cut-down
on the possibility of hysteria.
> Computers (and I include microprocessors and other timing chips) with
> date/time dependent software/hardware are very widespread. Furthermore
> - no one can view the amount of "connectivity" of these systems nor
> predict any kind of "ripple effect" or "weakest link in the chain". I
> know through experience in my work that I CANNOT possibly come up with
> tests for ALL the possible ways a single piece of relatively simple,
> small software will fail.
So no one can really know what's going to happen until it happens.
<snip good analogy in the interest of bandwidth>
>
> The bottom line is: there is no sense worrying about Y2K problems NOW!
> There ain't much you can do about any problems anyhow. Just take some
> reasonable precautions (I have an earthquake survival pack in my car
> that I've had for years, I took out a little extra cash and I plan on
> filling up my car's tank but that's just me).
*That* I already have, in preparation for an earthquake.
> Otherwise - I'll deal
> with any day-to-day problems as they come up. Remember - we'll all be
> in this together. I say: wow 'em at your gig!
> GJJ
Good advice. And the "wowing" is a definite goal for that night! :-)
Thanx,
Des
Des
> "Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> nervously asks:
> >
> >If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at
> >happen?
>
> "Your identity will be deleted.
> The bank will lose your money.
Well, that's not too bad!
> Your computer will fry.
Now *this* is unacceptable!
> Robot monkeys will eat your brain.
Oh now come on!
> Yeah -- It's the end of the world."
> maryanne
> shamelessly stolen from FX promo for the "Millennium" marathon
Give it back, k?
Des
Christopher Mcinerney
Adhokk7 wrote in message <19991229014952...@ng-cl1.aol.com>...
>"Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> wrote:
>
>>If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
>>1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
>
> Civilization will end at midnight and the end will come in waves.
Initially,
>mass power outages and the resulting rioting will be the major causes of
>damage. In hospitals, those attached to machines which help them breathe
will
>die. Aboard airplanes, people returning to their homes in Topeka,
Wheeling,
>Portland, and Biloxi will feel what they think and instantly pray is
>turbulence, only to quickly realize they are experiencing their final
moments.
>There will be many gunshot injuries and savage beatings within the
half-hour
>after the lights go out.
> In missle silos, aboard submarines, and in fortresses with electronic
>connections to satellites, gauges will be monitors feverishly, but to no
avail.
> Missles will be launched. Defensive strikes will be launched.
> Rioting will spread. Blood will spill. In those parts left unaffected
by
>missle strikes, chaos will become an every day fact of life.
> And still, Matthew Broderick will remain famous.
So things will carry on as normal ;D
Chris :o)
Brit Guy #1
SMUTster #4
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IM: Chris27828
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going to start taking hostages." -Scully - HTGSC.
Christopher Mcinerney
Caffeine Cal wrote in message <84dlqt$5dr$1...@fraggle.esatclear.ie>...
>
>Konrad Douglas Frye wrote in message
><2Lha4.24607$JS.7...@typhoon.mbnet.mb.ca>...
>>"Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> writes:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>know
>>>them inside and out. So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
>>
>
>Y2K (as opposed to the Millennium which happens next year, Maths Geeks!)a
>few hours before you. I'm in GMT which is 5 hours before EST so I'll post
>to the ng as soon after midnight, here, as I can. I don't think my family
>would be too happy to have me surfing at the stroke of midnight!
>
>Hopefully, all will be well and we'll all be too busy partying to worry
>about getting bitten by the millennium bug!
>
>Cal
I'll also do the same, but as i know my computer doesn't
work when the date is changed to the year 2000, i'll be
posting from Jan 1st 1998 ;)
Bah.... What Millennium bug!!!
Sean Carroll
<mp_w...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Do you really believe Western-European Causasians are the
>only nuts in the world?
Of course not, but American culture in particular has a marked
tendency towards certain unique *brands* of nut-case-edness.
--Sean
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/9613/
'The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways.
The point is to change it.' --Karl Marx
Sean Carroll
>Sean Carroll <se...@kua.net> logically informs us:
>>
>>Adhokk7 wrote:
>>> I am the Hegelianest. Or would that be the
>>>UnHegelianest?
>>
>>It would be the Hegelianest, AntiHegelianest, and
>>SynHegelianest.
>
>Ooof!!! Very impressive!!! <doffing chapeau to Sean>
You just used the words 'doffing' and 'chapeau' in a single phrase
that made sense in context and *I'm* impressive?
Caffeine Cal
Christopher Mcinerney wrote in message
<84e8bv$30j$8...@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>...
>
>Caffeine Cal wrote in message <84dlqt$5dr$1...@fraggle.esatclear.ie>...
>>
>>Konrad Douglas Frye wrote in message
>><2Lha4.24607$JS.7...@typhoon.mbnet.mb.ca>...
>>>"Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> writes:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>>>>
>>
>>few hours before you. I'm in GMT which is 5 hours before EST so I'll
post to the ng as soon after midnight, here, as I can. >>
>
>I'll also do the same, but as i know my computer doesn't
>work when the date is changed to the year 2000, i'll be
>posting from Jan 1st 1998 ;)
>
>Bah.... What Millennium bug!!!
>
>Chris :o)
Tonight we're gonna party like it's nineteen ninety eight... there's a song
there somewhere!
Cal
Sean Carroll
<mp_w...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Well, I do agree with you, especially since I live in southern California
>where there is a higher percentage than normal.
>
>I will quibble about limiting it to Caucasians. We are fairly
>equal-opportunity in the nut population out here.
Yeah, but ruling-class nuttiness and lower-class nuttiness often have
totally different characteristics ...
Adora
>
> The (acoustic) band for my gig jokes, "we'll still be able to play if
the
> power goes out." And it's a small hall, so I'll be able to call the
dances. I'm
> sure someone will provide candles; it's in a church basement during a
First
> Night shindig.
> As for the home front, the 10-lb heater cat might come in handy.
I have one at 12-lb. and one that weighs over 20, so I'm set on that front
;-)
--
Adora
Cherry Sundae
FEB
"Screw you guys. I'm goin' home."
`ik
>"Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> wrote:
>
>>If something disastrous is indeed going to happen, at 12:00 on December 31
>>1999, how exactly *would* it happen?
>
> Here's what I think:
> Civilization will end at midnight
***Which Time Zone?
--
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`ik - *It really is profound. Trust me*
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.
Measi2
>"Your identity will be deleted.
Hmm... this has interesting possibilities...
>The bank will lose your money.
*sniff* But I just put all of my Christmas gift money in the bank.
>Your computer will fry.
I'm kinda torn on this one--I'm under warranty still... I'm interested to see
how far this warranty actually goes... =)
>Robot monkeys will eat your brain.
Oh... like that doesn't happen already each time I toss back a few B52 shots.
*snort*
>Yeah -- It's the end of the world."
(everybody now!)
.. as we know it... and I feel fine...
Mel.
(who plans on celebrating the New Year by freezing her ass off at Boston's
First Night--terrorist warnings? Pah-tooey... if I'm going out, I'm going out
partying.
Adhokk7
>Remind me NOT to come to you when I need support Ad. If, by some stroke of
>fate I happen to forget that and come to you, please be a doll and remind me
>of this post. OK?
It was the Matt Broderick thing wasn't it?
Jim
considered view:
> I have an earthquake survival pack in my car
> that I've had for years
I keep a duvet in my car, just in case I get such in a blizzard. It
often comes in handy, even in summer :)
--
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Boondoggler
> It is said that on the blessed date of Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:52:43
> -0500, Sean Carroll <se...@kua.net> went forth and said:
>
> >Right, exactly. Do you really think that a whole bunch of local
> >governments, simultaneously and at once, will be able to legislate
> >against the evil forces of Broderick? Of course not. A single place that
> >did so would be crushed by the influence of all the Broderick-controlled
> >city-states around it. The only way to defeat Broderick's power is with
> >the force of world-wide socialist government!
>
> Don't even try to defeat Broderick. Ed Rooney spent a good 90+ minutes
> trying to figure out how to win over the Power of a
> Broderick-controlled city, and he got nothing but bruises from
> Jennifer Grey.
>
Well in Mr. Rooney's defense, he did have a bad back. He really
shouldn't have been throwing anyone let alone overthrowing a city.
--
Boondoggler
XFW1114, ggg, MBC
MiGiS7 - wire rims or bust!
VerlindaH
>From: "Adora" hea...@nospam.ctaz.com
>Date: Thu, 30 December 1999 12:04 AM EST
>Message-id:
>
>"KMsSavage" <kmss...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> The (acoustic) band for my gig jokes, "we'll still be able to play if
>the
>> power goes out." And it's a small hall, so I'll be able to call the
>dances. I'm
>> sure someone will provide candles; it's in a church basement during a
>First
>> Night shindig.
>> As for the home front, the 10-lb heater cat might come in handy.
>
>I have one at 12-lb. and one that weighs over 20, so I'm set on that front
>;-)
Hey! We have a big orange tom (think Morris) that tops the scales at apx. 24
pounds--I'd better charge him up just in case.
VerlindaH
>
>--
Eric NRTJ Roberts
[snippage]
>
> The worst thing that could happen that night is that the power could go
> out. *But* there are 23 time zones before the Pacific, and 3 in North
> America alone, so we'll know *way* before midnight if we're going to
> have problems.
Actually there are *six* time zones in North America...
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eric "No Relation To Julia" Roberts
B.Comm, MCP, PDQ, LLBean, FEB(tm)
prair...@sympatico.ca
"I read somewhere that 77 percent of all the mentally ill live in poverty.
Actually I’m more intrigued by the 23 percent who are apparently doing quite
well for themselves."
- Emo Philips
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
laura capozzola
>
> "Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I know that there are alot of people here that work with computers and know
> >them inside and out. So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
>
> almost certainly kick in and make a bad situation worse.
I would have to agree here with Konrad. In your situation, Des, I would
stay at the location of your gig if that happens since driving through
the streets with New Year's drunks, no traffic lights and idiot looters
is undesirable.
Laura
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> Yeah, but as long as he's alive, I'll never be older than Tom Cruise.
>
> -ad, not Tom Cruise (I'm younger)
Yeah, but that Pretty Boy will be the love toy of someone named General
Bubba when it all goes down.
Deborah
laura capozzola wrote in message
> > Yeah, but as long as he's alive, I'll never be older than Tom Cruise.
-ad, not Tom Cruise (I'm younger)
> Yeah, but that Pretty Boy will be the love toy of someone named General
Bubba when it all goes down.
Laura
Nicole will protect him. I hear her Kung Fu is the best.
Deborah
Des
> Konrad Douglas Frye wrote:
> >
> > "Des" <des...@internetconnect.net> writes:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >I know that there are alot of people here that work with computers and
know
> > >them inside and out. So anybody know how or why or what could happen?
> >
> > I'd worry about the power going out. If that happens, human stupidity
will
> > almost certainly kick in and make a bad situation worse.
>
> I would have to agree here with Konrad. In your situation, Des, I would
> stay at the location of your gig if that happens since driving through
> the streets with New Year's drunks, no traffic lights and idiot looters
> is undesirable.
> Laura
Yes. We have a room at the hotel, to get dressed in, and to use just in case
something like that happens. Or in case some of the band members get too
tipsy to make the drive home safely.
But from everything I've seen since I've been awake, everything seems to be
running smoothly, so I'm not too worried anymore-just nervous.
Des
now hooked on ESPN's
"50 greatest athletes"
Miss Moo
Jeez, and I thought *my* cat was fat.
Oh well...added together I've got about 45 pounds of cat...enough to keep me
warm when the heater stops working, and enough to feed me when the canned food
runs out.
Marita--knows it's horrible to joke about eating cats....<g>
***
Betty, go to Snarles the Painter, and tell him to paint me a sign, with--'no
suicides permitted here, and no smoking in the parlor;'--might as well kill
both birds at once.
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maryanne
>
>Oh well...added together I've got about 45 pounds of
>cat...enough to keep me warm when the heater stops
>working, and enough to feed me when the canned
>food runs out.
Mebbe so, but like me -- with 60 pounds of cat -- you've got too many pounds of
cat to live in Arcadia...
maryanne
Muttering "Big piles of manure."