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Chris Parks

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Jan 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/12/97
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Edward wrote:
>
> Fiona Haggart <aa...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> >Fiona Haggart wrote:
> >>
> >> According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
> >> favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
> >> he bores me".
>
> >Further to this, the illustrious Sun Newspaper, publishers of all things
> >tacky and sensasionalist, have said that she has dumped Piper on daddy in
> >order to be with the toyboy.
>
> >If this is true, so much for the image of GA, super-mom.
>
> >Fiona
>
> It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
> work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David
> Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like
> 100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
> income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
> show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
> among many of the stars)
> Well, if this rumor is true, then GA is on the prowl again, and what
> if DD and GA got together? That'd be interesting since in XF they are
> not allowed to have a relationship.
> Poor Piper, I feel bad for her, I think GA should keep seeing her even
> if the two would be separated.

If you married a guy named Clyde Klotz would you change your last name?
Gillian Clotz? ewwwww....

Nita Dee

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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Not surprising, considering GA told McCalls (a respectable magazine)
last Spring that Clyde just didn't understand her. Its a sad thing, but
at least they have Piper as a treasure from their nearly three years
together.

And, in other news..let Scully have her little flingette--it will just
make her
appreciate Mulder all the more when they do finally get together at the
series end.

Nita Dee

DSchmouth

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Word is, the new guy she is with has a little beard. Would that be a
goatee? Because if it is, well, ya know, that could make GA a goa....nah,
forget it, I am not going there...

Danielle

Fiona Haggart

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true_b...@neptune.com

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In article <32DA61...@dial.pipex.com>, Fiona says...

>
>According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
>favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
>he bores me".
>
>The only description of the toyboy was that he had a goatee beard
>(hey, well that narrows it down a bit..?!)
>
>Fiona
>
That's Great News!!!

Finally I have my chance to ask her out. This is going to be so good. I just
know she'll like me.

Loving Dana Forever,
Georgie

j.t._jhaelan

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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In article , Fiona says...

>
>Fiona Haggart wrote:
>>
>> According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
>> favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
>> he bores me".
>
>
>
>Further to this, the illustrious Sun Newspaper, publishers of all things
>tacky and sensasionalist, have said that she has dumped Piper on daddy in
>order to be with the toyboy.
>
>If this is true, so much for the image of GA, super-mom.

I am new to this newsgroup, although not new to the show. Is it standard for unsubstantiated rumour to pass for truth here? If so, then please pardon my rudeness, as it is unintended. But shouldn't someone at least post the referenced article with attached credits so that others reading the rumour may investigate its validity? Just wondering (and again, apologies for any offense if my ignorance has led me to speak out of turn).

j.t. jhaelan
>
>Fiona
>

Raul A. Velez

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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Edward, my man --

Where is it written that the man needs to make more money that the
woman?

In my book, she can have them, I'll raise them and cook for Her!

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Fiona Haggart

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
he bores me".

The only description of the toyboy was that he had a goatee beard

Rufie710

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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In article <5bfl9f$2...@newsflash.concordia.ca>, l_l...@alcor.concordia.ca
( LISA LOISELLE ) wrote:

> In article <5ben0s$f...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>,
> Edward <gsh...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
> >show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> >more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
> >among many of the stars)
> >Well, if this rumor is true, then GA is on the prowl again, and what
> >if DD and GA got together? That'd be interesting since in XF they are
> >not allowed to have a relationship.
> >Poor Piper, I feel bad for her, I think GA should keep seeing her even
> >if the two would be separated.
> >

at which point Lisa commented.....
>
> Whoa. Not even gonna START a diatribe on *that* final post. All I got
> to say is: Edward, man, crawl out of that prehistoric, chavinistic cave
> you live in. I don't think you meant to be sexist *on purpose*, which
> makes me even more sad at your ignorance. Just because a woman doesn't
> take a man's name is not grounds for divorce. And I think there's TONS
> of men out there who'd *love* to have a rich wife... and wouldn't be ashamed.
> Welcome to the 90s, Edward.
>
> Lisa
My husband would like to register as one of those men....... Ruth , who
didnt change her name
but who doesnt get to be the rich wife ( luckily he likes me anyway)

--
rufie710
"I tried Reality once, I found it too confining"

sdsuser

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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> It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
> work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David
> Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like
> 100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
> income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to

> show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
> among many of the stars)
> Well, if this rumor is true, then GA is on the prowl again, and what
> if DD and GA got together? That'd be interesting since in XF they are
> not allowed to have a relationship.
> Poor Piper, I feel bad for her, I think GA should keep seeing her even
> if the two would be separated.

I saw an article about her dumping Clyde in the New York Post. Not the
most reputable of newspapers, perhaps, but certainly much more reliable
than The Enquirer or such. Anyway:
As for her annual income, based on her $60000/ep, plus other little side
projects, I'd say she earns between $1.5 and $2 million a year (before
agent's fees, of course).
As for her not changing her, right, many do not. Besides, "Gillian
Klotz"? I don't think so!
If I were Clyde, (and for two years, I have wished I were!) you
couldn't drag me away from her side when in public ("OK, so *she* makes
all the money, but I get to wake up next to her every morning." Forgive
the crudeness, but you get the idea).
Finally, I feel bad for all three of them. Piper for obvious reasons.
Clyde for obvious reasons. And Gillian, because as much as I "love"
her, this can't be real good for her personal image, reagardless of
whether it's for us judge (it's not, but still...)

Rufie710

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Jan 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/13/97
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In article <5beqoo$o...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>,
jnco...@ix.netcom.com(JN Cotton) wrote:

> In <19970113184...@ladder01.news.aol.com> dsch...@aol.com

> I thought the same thing, but didn't have the courage to post it.
>
> LOL! Thanx.
>
> Nancy (no clever sig)

You are both very warped and I am proud to know you.

Pranab K Dutta Roy

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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In <32DA61...@dial.pipex.com> Fiona Haggart <aa...@dial.pipex.com>
writes:

Yup, I heard it too this morning on several radio stations. I heard
she was having problems, but wow! Has anyone heard anything else about
this?


JN Cotton

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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And now for something completely off topic....(Nancy gets her bristles
up....)

In <5ben0s$f...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> gsh...@ix.netcom.com (Edward)
writes:


>
>It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
>work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David
>Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like
>100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
>income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
>show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
>more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
>among many of the stars)

And what is wrong with this????????!!!!!! What is wrong with the WOMAN
earning more than her HUSBAND??????? And pray tell what is wrong with
not taking your husband's name?????? I only took my hubby's name
because it was a heck of a lot better than my own, and I liked having
the option.


>Well, if this rumor is true, then GA is on the prowl again,

On the prowl?????? Makes it sound like we're slipping in to the "Dana
Scully: Slut" thread that's been going on. Or am I reading to much into
that statement? (Bet I'm not.)

I'd watch your words a bit. They come across as rather offensive. (To
me, at least.)

Nancy (no clever sig)


JN Cotton

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Edward

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Fiona Haggart <aa...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>Fiona Haggart wrote:
>>
>> According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
>> favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
>> he bores me".

>Further to this, the illustrious Sun Newspaper, publishers of all things


>tacky and sensasionalist, have said that she has dumped Piper on daddy in
>order to be with the toyboy.

>If this is true, so much for the image of GA, super-mom.

>Fiona

It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David
Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like
100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
among many of the stars)

GG

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In article <19970113184...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
dsch...@aol.com (DSchmouth) wrote:

> Word is, the new guy she is with has a little beard. Would that be a
> goatee? Because if it is, well, ya know, that could make GA a goa....nah,
> forget it, I am not going there...
>
> Danielle

Baaa-aaaaa! Just say it!!! Chupa Scully Cabra!!! ;)

-Gil
*lover of all things even-slightly-related-to sheep!*

***************
Note to myself:
"You GO, girl!"
***************

LISA LOISELLE

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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In article <5ben0s$f...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>,
Edward <gsh...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Whoa. Not even gonna START a diatribe on *that* final post. All I got
to say is: Edward, man, crawl out of that prehistoric, chavinistic cave
you live in. I don't think you meant to be sexist *on purpose*, which
makes me even more sad at your ignorance. Just because a woman doesn't
take a man's name is not grounds for divorce. And I think there's TONS
of men out there who'd *love* to have a rich wife... and wouldn't be ashamed.
Welcome to the 90s, Edward.

Lisa
...reeling, just *reeling*

Nick Pedicini

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JN Cotton <jnco...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<5bet4h$p...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>...

> And now for something completely off topic....(Nancy gets her bristles
> up....)
>
> In <5ben0s$f...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> gsh...@ix.netcom.com (Edward)
> writes:
> >
>
> And what is wrong with this????????!!!!!! What is wrong with the WOMAN
> earning more than her HUSBAND??????? And pray tell what is wrong with
> not taking your husband's name?????? I only took my hubby's name
> because it was a heck of a lot better than my own, and I liked having
> the option.
>

Personally, I think it was the chauffeur's cap that did him in...........

NJP

Paul Wartenberg

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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Do you realize how many GATBers are suddenly calling dibs on
her? Last count was 4,543...

<sigh> Poor Piper. Now all she has for a father figure are all
these guys in monster suits...

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Kiley

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> > It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
> > work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David
> > Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like
> > 100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
> > income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
> > show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> > more.

Oh my God, this is stuff for Ricki Lake-
"Husbands who are ashamed because they make less than their wife"

Why is it that guys always have to make more money? More money = more control
=man of the house or some macho bs like that?


You know, you never see women who are ashamed because their hubbys make more
money than them. Grow up!

Queecek

gabrielle

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z004...@bcfreenet.seflin.org (Paul Wartenberg) wrote:


> Do you realize how many GATBers are suddenly calling dibs on
>her? Last count was 4,543...

And 54 GAEBers, as well!

-gab
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http://www.teatime.com/grh/


ECPROR8

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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Extra also reported it last night.GA's publicist stated the separation was
amicable
c

Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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In <5bef13$m...@lana.zippo.com> j.t. jhaelan writes:

>I am new to this newsgroup, although not new to the show. Is it
>standard for unsubstantiated rumour to pass for truth here?

Yeah, it's part of our playtime, we say STUFF, then argue about
it.

> If so, then please pardon my rudeness, as it is unintended. But
>shouldn't someone at least post the referenced article with attached
>credits so that others reading the rumour may investigate its
validity?

Actually, Fiona saying "according to my local radio station"
and "Sun Newspaper have said" is way WAY more information than you will
usually see on a first-day rumor here.

>> Just wondering (and again, apologies for any offense if my
>>ignorance has led me to speak out of turn).

No offense taken, and you don't have to raise your hand
here.

Welcome to the party...check your sanity at the door.....

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Magine

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dsch...@aol.com (DSchmouth) wrote:
>Word is, the new guy she is with has a little beard. Would that be a
>goatee? Because if it is, well, ya know, that could make GA a goa....nah,
>forget it, I am not going there...
>
>Danielle

I *was* going to say it, but I restrained myself. :>

-Magine


Alan Hurshman

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Kiley <kil...@frontiernet.net> wrote in article
<5bglck$l...@node2.frontiernet.net>...

>
> Why is it that guys always have to make more money? More money = more control
> =man of the house or some macho bs like that?

I think you might find there are a lot fewer men who
would be bothered by this than you think. _SOME_ men
would but not as many as 20 years ago. In the current
economy you cannot afford this sort of overweening
pride.


> You know, you never see women who are ashamed because their hubbys make more
> money than them. Grow up!

No, but I have seen them ashamed of how little their
husbands make. And a very loud shame it can be.

--
Alan Hurshman,
The Spa, X-Ville.

(Halifax, Nova Scotia)


Mac Nooge

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Edward wrote:
Gillian Anderson makes like
> 100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
> income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
> show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
> among many of the stars)

Hmmm. That would explain why Pamela (Anderson) Lee's marriage has been
*such* a smashing success---she changed her name! (Oh, no, wait did I
read that she and Tommy were actually having problems? SO much for that
theory!)

In fact, whether or not thw woman and the man have the same last name is
probably not the best indicator of chances of marital success. I know of
several divorcing couples who both use the husband's last name. I also
know at least a couple of happily-married pairs in which the wife had
the same name before and after the ceremony.

Instead we might look to changes of interest, commitment to the
relationship, stresses and strains of careers, or any of a number of
lifestyle and temperment factors which better predict the compatibility
of a couple.

(I even have it on good authority that in some areas of the world it is
completely normal for married couples to have different last names!
Lucien Bouchard's wife, Audrey Best, is a fairly-well-known example of
this custom in Quebec.)

*sigh* don't even feel like getting into the income thing.
Can't we all just give a little sympathy and not play second-hand
counsellors?

(dogs don't even pretend to mate for life let alone change our names--we
have limited brain space for that sort of thing)

-Beagle
Director, QM SYD RH/BS

ron...@aa.net

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On 14 Jan 1997 02:33:59 GMT, giz...@ix.netcom.com(Coleen
Sullivan-Baier) wrote:

>
> Welcome to the party...check your sanity at the door.....
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

hey gizzie , who's sane???????????????????? >;->


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true_b...@neptune.com wrote:

>>According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
>>favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
>>he bores me".
>>

>>The only description of the toyboy was that he had a goatee beard
>>(hey, well that narrows it down a bit..?!)
>>
>>Fiona
>>

>That's Great News!!!

>Finally I have my chance to ask her out. This is going to be so good. I just
>know she'll like me.

>Loving Dana Forever,
>Georgie

Actually, that's really horrible news! I know I shouldn't care, but
I've had this weird attachment to Clyde, and I'm really kind of bummed
out that their marriage has become just like any old Hollywood couple.
I have a hard time believing that GA would actually quote that 'he
bores me' line too... that's a little harsh to send out to all her
fans I think.

J.


lyo...@sky2.bskyb.com

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In article <19970113153...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
nit...@aol.com (Nita Dee) wrote:
>
> Not surprising, considering GA told McCalls (a respectable magazine)
> last Spring that Clyde just didn't understand her. Its a sad thing, but
> at least they have Piper as a treasure from their nearly three years
> together.
>
> And, in other news..let Scully have her little flingette--it will just
> make her
> appreciate Mulder all the more when they do finally get together at the
> series end.
>
> Nita Dee

I think we're getting a little confused between reality and television land
again, shipper. GA is having the romance, not Scully. This could not have less
to do with the show if it tried (except that GA and Clyde met on the show and
the new man was an extra on the show). But you get what I mean...

Clyde seems like a sonky, sulky sort to me, and I'm not in the least surprised
that she has broken free. I mean look at the opportunities that are coming to
her thick and fast. Her head has probably swelled with all the attention, Clyde
sulks about it, doesn't give her room to grow and explore her new found wealth
and fame, and boom, you have an unhappy marriage. This is formula stuff.
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JN Cotton

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In <8533240...@dejanews.com> lyo...@sky2.bskyb.com writes:
>
>In article <19970113153...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> nit...@aol.com (Nita Dee) wrote:
>>
>> Not surprising, considering GA told McCalls (a respectable magazine)
>> last Spring that Clyde just didn't understand her. Its a sad thing,
but
>> at least they have Piper as a treasure from their nearly three years
>> together.
>>
>> And, in other news..let Scully have her little flingette--it will
just
>> make her
>> appreciate Mulder all the more when they do finally get together at
the
>> series end.
>>
>> Nita Dee
>
>I think we're getting a little confused between reality and television
land
>again, shipper. GA is having the romance, not Scully.

Uh--no we're not. Sounds to me like the poster is addressing both the
GA breakup and the rumored Scully one night stand in "Never Again."
Two--Two--Two Subjects in One!

Nancy (no clever sig)

nau...@woods.uml.edu

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In article <5bh6fa$8g$1...@gollum.kingston.net>, flam...@mulberry.com (Sensation) writes:
>
> Actually, that's really horrible news! I know I shouldn't care, but
> I've had this weird attachment to Clyde, and I'm really kind of bummed
> out that their marriage has become just like any old Hollywood couple.
> I have a hard time believing that GA would actually quote that 'he
> bores me' line too... that's a little harsh to send out to all her
> fans I think.
>
> J.
>


Todays Boston Globe carried the story and repeated the "he bores me" line. Not
exactly proof that she did say it, but confirmation that that is the story
going around.

Sue Nault

Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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In <8533240...@dejanews.com> lyo...@sky2.bskyb.com writes:

>Clyde seems like a sonky, sulky sort to me

How did you perceive this?? I've only seen him twice, on award
shows, but both times, he was smiling and attentive to her. Not Mr
Hollywood, to be sure, but GA, 'till lately, never looked really with
it at these functions either.
Remember at the Golden Globes, two years ago, when they won "Best
Drama"?? CC couldn't shut up, DD couldn't stand still, and GA's face
was frozen in a blank-eyed shocky smile.

....and now CC is chomping on the bit to move on, DD is
charmingly, smirkily, smack-him arrogant, and GA is the "Sexiest Woman
in the World"

"...and the beat goes on, and on, and on and on and on"

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Peter Osterhoudt

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Sensation wrote:
>
> true_b...@neptune.com wrote:
>
> >>According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
> >>favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
> >>he bores me".
> >>
> >>The only description of the toyboy was that he had a goatee beard
> >>(hey, well that narrows it down a bit..?!)
> >>
> >>Fiona
> >>
> >That's Great News!!!
>
> >Finally I have my chance to ask her out. This is going to be so good. I just
> >know she'll like me.
>
> >Loving Dana Forever,
> >Georgie
>
> Actually, that's really horrible news! I know I shouldn't care, but
> I've had this weird attachment to Clyde, and I'm really kind of bummed
> out that their marriage has become just like any old Hollywood couple.
> I have a hard time believing that GA would actually quote that 'he
> bores me' line too... that's a little harsh to send out to all her
> fans I think.
>
> J.
Again don't mistake the role with the actress. Dana Scully would not
publicly say he bores me but GA would. What do you expect when they are
married ten minutes after they meet.

Bob W.

Alan Hurshman

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Mac Nooge <ssi...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in article
<32DC4E...@ns.sympatico.ca>...

>
> (I even have it on good authority that in some areas of the world it is
> completely normal for married couples to have different last names!
> Lucien Bouchard's wife, Audrey Best, is a fairly-well-known example of
> this custom in Quebec.)

You mean the USA? Audrey is from California, I think.


> (dogs don't even pretend to mate for life let alone change our names--we
> have limited brain space for that sort of thing)

I think I better go have my DNA checked. I must
have some dog genes in me somewhere.

Peter Osterhoudt

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Kiley wrote:
>
> > > It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
> > > work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David
> > > Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like

> > > 100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
> > > income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
> > > show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> > > more.
>
> Oh my God, this is stuff for Ricki Lake-
> "Husbands who are ashamed because they make less than their wife"
>
> Why is it that guys always have to make more money? More money = more control
> =man of the house or some macho bs like that?
>
> You know, you never see women who are ashamed because their hubbys make more
> money than them. Grow up!
>
> Queecek
It wasn't Clyde who wa ashamed it was Gillian!!! Anyway we should make
certain we don't mix up the difference between actor and role. Just
because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up doesn't
mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.

Bob W.

Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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> Just because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up
>doesn't mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.
>
>Bob W.


c'mon...admit it....you're Larry Fortensky, aren't you??


XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(who wants everyont to know, right out, BEFORE I'm famous, that yes, I
am a slut, but I is a very SMART slut...I KNOW stuff...I just DO)

camgib

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> Just because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up > doesn't mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.

You mean she's not brain-dead? ALLLL RIGHT!!!! GREAT!

<with a deadpan face full of sarcasam> Of course not.

Geez. Some people. Why is it automatic that women are stupid? Why is it
automatic that men are macho and therefore smarter? Why is anything this
or that?

Forget it, and just get on with your life. Oh that Clyde? Well too bad I
guess for them both, but what the hell do u want me to do sitting here
in Tampa, FL -- a million miles away from anything that's remotely
important. Like GA's hairdo?

cam gib

cam gib

Andromeda

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That's what I was thinking. The words did seem awfully harsh so until I
hear here say it herself, I won't beleive it:)

Mac Nooge

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Alan Hurshman wrote:
>
> Mac Nooge <ssi...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in article
> <32DC4E...@ns.sympatico.ca>...
> >
> > (I even have it on good authority that in some areas of the world it is
> > completely normal for married couples to have different last names!
> > Lucien Bouchard's wife, Audrey Best, is a fairly-well-known example of
> > this custom in Quebec.)
>
> You mean the USA? Audrey is from California, I think.

No, I mean Quebec. Audrey is a California girl, but it is the Quebec
thing where women keep their last names (I *think* that's by law, they
have to file to change to the husbands, I *think*, but I could be
totally wrong, maybe un[e] vrai[e] quebecois[e] could answer) so in fact
Audrey *is* following her husband's custom. Another example perhaps less
familiar to our non-Canadian friends is Lise LaPointe (sp?) wife of
Jacques Parizeau. (that's Parizeau, not Bonhomme de Carnival, although I
know the resemblance is frightening) Sometimes the English press calls
these women "Mrs. Bouchard" or "Lise Parizeau" but those are not their
legal names.

And to be evn more Canadian, remember poor old Joe Clark's answer to
questions of why his wife, Maureen McTeer, didn't use his name:

"It would be too confusing for the kids if we were both named Joe..."

>
> > (dogs don't even pretend to mate for life let alone change our names--we
> > have limited brain space for that sort of thing)
>
> I think I better go have my DNA checked. I must
> have some dog genes in me somewhere.
>
> --
> Alan Hurshman,
> The Spa, X-Ville.
>
> (Halifax, Nova Scotia)

Hey Alan, you have the facilties right there at the spa...check it
out...maybe it's a Scottish wolfhound or somesuch cool really big dog.

Beagle, smallish sized dog
Director, QM SYD RH/BS

'Red Crow' XVille's resident Hippie.

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In article <5ben0s$f...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>, Edward
<gsh...@ix.netcom.com> writes

>Gillian Anderson makes like
>100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her
>income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
>show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
>more. GA didn't even change her last name!

And what pray tell is wrong with the women earning more than the men? Or
the women not changing their names? Why should we? Plus, I did not see
dear Clyde jumping up to change his.

Not that I don't like Clyde, I do, and I think the stuff she is supposed
to be saying about him is uncalled for. It's just that I hate pigs that
think we still live in the dark ages, and that men are better than
women.

Anyway, Did Y'all see Krychek's (my cute VW van) Twin brother on 'The
Detectives'? My Krychek would have been on the show but, He's a little
2shy!!!

Harmony in XVille.xxxx
--
'Red Crow' XVille's resident Hippie,
And co-captain of the Doug Hutchison cheerleading squad.

Crossapple

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gizzie wrote:

> "...and the beat goes on, and on, and on and on and on"
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

And just where *ARE* Sonny and Cher when you really
need them???

Carey
---------------------------------

LISA LOISELLE

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Side comment: The reason why Lucien Bouchard's wife maintained her birth
name is because that in Quebec it costs over $500 to change your name.
And marriage constitutes an official change of name.

Lisa

Mac Nooge

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But presumably they had the cash...?
I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that she was trying to
fit in with the Big L's cultural preferences.
-Beagle

Peter Osterhoudt

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Coleen Sullivan-Baier wrote:
>
> > Just because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up
> >doesn't mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.
> >
> >Bob W.
>
>
> c'mon...admit it....you're Larry Fortensky, aren't you??
>
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> (who wants everyont to know, right out, BEFORE I'm famous, that yes, I
> am a slut, but I is a very SMART slut...I KNOW stuff...I just DO)
I don't find myself compared to Larry Fortensky very often and don't
find it flattering but Liz Taylor is a good example of my point. Liz
Taylor played Viginia Wolff, an intelligent woman, but I'm being
charitable if I describe Liz as a brain dead slut. Nothiong wrong with
being a Brain-dead slut mind you, I was merely offering a reminder of
the difference between the role and the actor.

Bob W.
Huh-huh-huh, sluts are cool!

Whitney Anne Fitzgerald

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LISA LOISELLE wrote:
>
> Side comment: The reason why Lucien Bouchard's wife maintained her
> birth name is because that in Quebec it costs over $500 to change your
> name.

Out of curiosity, is that in one lump sum ("the $500 Name Change Tax")
or several different things that have to be done to change your name
($25 to change driver's license, $50 per library card, etc.)?

Whitney (who, when she gets married in October,
will become Whitney Anne Valentine Fitzgerald Freemesser)

-------------------------------------------------
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(http://www.servtech.com/public/whitfitz)

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valk...@earthlink.net

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Peter Osterhoudt wrote:

>
> camgib wrote:
> >
> > > Just because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up
> doesn't mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.
> >
> > You mean she's not brain-dead? ALLLL RIGHT!!!! GREAT!
> >
> > <with a deadpan face full of sarcasam> Of course not.
> >
> > Geez. Some people. Why is it automatic that women are stupid? Why is it
> > automatic that men are macho and therefore smarter? Why is anything this
> > or that?
> >
> > Forget it, and just get on with your life. Oh that Clyde? Well too bad I
> > guess for them both, but what the hell do u want me to do sitting here
> > in Tampa, FL -- a million miles away from anything that's remotely
> > important. Like GA's hairdo?
> >
> > cam gib
> >
> > cam gib
> Exactly wrong!!! Women aren't stupid!!! Women who are FBI agents,
> lawyers professors accountants are not stupid!!! Actors and actresses
> are, however, nearly uniformly stupid. My point is that it seems that
> people expect GA to act like Scully who is an extremely intelligent
> woman. GA is an actress, and her public presentations have not been very
> flattering. Women are not stupid, but IMHO, this particular woman is.
>
> Bob W.
> I'm really not a bad guy.

Bob,

From one guy to another.....you're a SCHMUCK!

That's MHO, I could be wrong, but I'm going with my gut on this one.

I don't think actors and actresses are UNIFORMALLY STUPID. I think
there are just as many smart, stupid and obnoxious ones, as are
present in society in general. I don't agree with you about GA
either and even she has openly admitted that she's not super
brainy like her character. That shows a great deal of smarts in
itself. I have found that the people who think they are smart,
usually prove to be some of the dumbest people you meet.

BTW, where did the slut part come from. Just because someone
splits from their spouse doesn't make them a slut. She hasn't
been wearing her wedding band since, at least, her Letterman
appearance several monthes ago.

Valkyrie

jillian jinx

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lyo...@sky2.bskyb.com wrote:
> > And, in other news..let Scully have her little flingette--it will just
> > make her
> > appreciate Mulder all the more when they do finally get together at the
> > series end.
> >
> > Nita Dee
>
> I think we're getting a little confused between reality and television land
> again, shipper. GA is having the romance, not Scully. This could not have less
> to do with the show if it tried (except that GA and Clyde met on the show and
> the new man was an extra on the show). But you get what I mean...
>

i think she's talking about the rumor that scully is going to have a
one-night stand in an upcomming episode, not about the personal lives
of ga or dd.

jillian jinx
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********************************************************

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---A Clockwork Orange

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valk...@earthlink.net

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Coleen Sullivan-Baier wrote:
>
> In <8533240...@dejanews.com> lyo...@sky2.bskyb.com writes:
>
> >Clyde seems like a sonky, sulky sort to me
>
> How did you perceive this?? I've only seen him twice, on award
> shows, but both times, he was smiling and attentive to her. Not Mr
> Hollywood, to be sure, but GA, 'till lately, never looked really with
> it at these functions either.
> Remember at the Golden Globes, two years ago, when they won "Best
> Drama"?? CC couldn't shut up, DD couldn't stand still, and GA's face
> was frozen in a blank-eyed shocky smile.
>
> ....and now CC is chomping on the bit to move on, DD is
> charmingly, smirkily, smack-him arrogant, and GA is the "Sexiest Woman
> in the World"
>
> "...and the beat goes on, and on, and on and on and on"
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hi Giz,

I've never responded to one of your posts before, just thought
I'd say "Hi" before I said anything else.

I don't know much about the Clydester, but I was surprised
that I hadn't seen more of him with her at public deals. I
always thought it was part of the partners responsibilty to
support your mate in their life outside the marriage. I didn't
see him at the Emmy's and if I had a wife who was up for 'Best
Actress in a Drama' I'd want to be there if she won, and I would
definitely have wanted to be there if she lost. Now that may be
because she had already split with him privately, but she's
also been up for a Golden Globe before and has won the SAG. Was
he there for any of these awards, I'm asking cause I don't
know, I can't seem to remember seeing him.

As far as another post that I read is concerned,
"I hope that she still sees little Piper" or something to that
effect. I don't think it's an issue, I mean she has taken her
daughter and nanny around the world with her, Piper's on the
set with her Mom or nanny almost everyday that they shoot and
that's a 16 hour day, remember. I don't think Clyde can take
much credit for his time spent with his daughter, it seems to
me that he physically just hasn't seen that much of her. Gillian
may have left her with Dad for a short time to go do the voiceover
thing and to have some time to play house with the boytoy but
I doubt very much she's going to just dump Piper too. You
have to admit that the early stages of lust might be a bit
tough to work around a 2 1/2 yr old. I'm sure Gillian didn't
want Piper to walk in on her and goatee man while they're $#*^~*!

She should get the house too, I'm betting that her income bought
it.

My $1.50
Valkyrie.

Sandy Ng

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Maybe she'll hook up with David?!

Peter Osterhoudt

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Mitiori

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Gillian also intimated that problems to TV Guide - she said that Clyde
did not understand her need to work hard and build a career. Pretty
selfish of him!

Laura

camgib

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I don't know how you percieved my sarcasam in the previous note, but
Bob, I was AGREEING with you in GENERAL about women.

BUT, alas, I was DISAGREEING with you in that Gillian is "stupid" (your
words). I think Gillian Anderson is one of the more brilliant actresses
you could find on TV. GA and a few women on ER.

But then again, opinions are opinions.

later....
--
cam gib
-------
"What would you like with your fries today at McDonald's?"

Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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In <32DDE4...@earthlink.net> valk...@earthlink.net writes:

< snip:GA's husband not attending Emmy's>


> Now that may be
>because she had already split with him privately, but she's
>also been up for a Golden Globe before and has won the SAG. Was
>he there for any of these awards, I'm asking cause I don't
>know, I can't seem to remember seeing him.

Actually, these are exactly the two events I was refering to,
where I *did* see him with her.

.....and I was suspicious, also, when he did NOT appear with
her at the Emmy's in September.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


'Red Crow' XVille's resident Hippie.

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In article <5bisp3$6...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, Coleen Sullivan-Baier
<giz...@ix.netcom.com> writes

>In <8533240...@dejanews.com> lyo...@sky2.bskyb.com writes:
>
>>Clyde seems like a sonky, sulky sort to me
>
> How did you perceive this?? I've only seen him twice, on award
>shows, but both times, he was smiling and attentive to her. Not Mr
>Hollywood, to be sure, but GA, 'till lately, never looked really with
>it at these functions either.
> Remember at the Golden Globes, two years ago, when they won "Best
>Drama"?? CC couldn't shut up, DD couldn't stand still, and GA's face
>was frozen in a blank-eyed shocky smile.
>
> ....and now CC is chomping on the bit to move on, DD is
>charmingly, smirkily, smack-him arrogant, and GA is the "Sexiest Woman
>in the World"
>
> "...and the beat goes on, and on, and on and on and on"
>
> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I always thought Clyde looked like a nice bloke - okay, He's never going
to win 'worlds sexiest male', but in every photo I have seen Gillian is
looking at the camera, and Clyde is looking at Gillian, with a 'WOW, I'm
the luckyest man alive, she is so special' look on his face!!

I think he's adorable...Hey Clyde, I'm not doing anything tomorrow....

(You never know!!!)

Peace.xxxx

vlxxxxxx

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Mac Nooge <ssi...@ns.sympatico.ca> writes: > Alan Hurshman wrote:
> >
> > Mac Nooge <ssi...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in article
> > <32DC4E...@ns.sympatico.ca>...
> > >
> > > (I even have it on good authority that in some areas of the world it is
> > > completely normal for married couples to have different last names!
> > > Lucien Bouchard's wife, Audrey Best, is a fairly-well-known example of
> > > this custom in Quebec.)
> >
> > You mean the USA? Audrey is from California, I think.
>
> No, I mean Quebec. Audrey is a California girl, but it is the Quebec
> thing where women keep their last names (I *think* that's by law, they
> have to file to change to the husbands, I *think*, but I could be
> totally wrong, maybe un[e] vrai[e] quebecois[e] could answer) so in fact
> Audrey *is* following her husband's custom.

Well, you ask for it, so, there you have it: a real Quebecois here...
(however, the ability to write and read in English could easily have me
disqualified, but hey, it's a totally different subject and puh-lease!
don't get me started on that one...).
So, hmmm...where was I? Ah, yeah, right, last names...You are right Alan.
Here in Quebec, women don't change their last name when they get married.
Furthermore, when they have children, these children's last name can be:
a)the father's
b)the mother's
c) a combination of both last names, in the order that they choose.

Wow, I am actually starting to bore myself...

A note off-topic.

Recently, there has been much AOL
AOL
AOL
AOL
AOL
AOL bashing on this ng,
started by the annoying repitition of some posts. Well, I was with AOL,
recently switched for a Quebec server, and boy! <loooong sigh> DO I MISS
AOL! <almost crying now, in rage mostly> It took me forever to find my
way back to you, there are no more threads in that server, so all posts
get in in ramdom order, most of the time I have no idea of what I am
doing (hmmmm, that one might not be such a change...)... I mean, AOL was
so "newbie friendly"....<really sobbing now> There are exactly 19357 post
now on alt.tv.x-files, and they won't go away, they just keep coming!
THERE IS NO "MARK ALL READ" ON THIS******* SERVER, and all posts, even
those i have read, remain there.
And they keep coming in...
more and more...
It is all there...
From the beginning, 'til the end of times (or 1998, which ever comes
first)
This server has seen the birth of X-Ville...and remembers it all...
<Loosing my sanity now>
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!


jillian jinx

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valk...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Bob,
>
> From one guy to another.....you're a SCHMUCK!
>
> That's MHO, I could be wrong, but I'm going with my gut on this one.
>
> I don't think actors and actresses are UNIFORMALLY STUPID. I think
> there are just as many smart, stupid and obnoxious ones, as are
> present in society in general. I don't agree with you about GA
> either and even she has openly admitted that she's not super
> brainy like her character. That shows a great deal of smarts in
> itself. I have found that the people who think they are smart,
> usually prove to be some of the dumbest people you meet.
>
> BTW, where did the slut part come from. Just because someone
> splits from their spouse doesn't make them a slut. She hasn't
> been wearing her wedding band since, at least, her Letterman
> appearance several monthes ago.
>

exactly! you took the words out of my mouth! someone once said
that if you are a famous woman you are automatically percieved as one or
all of these three; slut, bitch, supid. as popular as a woman might be,
she eventually ends up shoved into a catagory. look at hillary clinton,
or at the other "spectrum"- pamela anderson... it makes me sick to see
such blatent stereotyping of women!!
we don't know celebrities, we don't deal with them on a daily
basis, so where do we, as the american public get off labeling them?
stars are human too, they make the same mistakes and have the same
problems as the rest of us. to judge someone because of what you
perceive them as being is just as bad as being a racist. so next time,
when we all hear a bit of gossip about how "bitchy" a celebrity is
being, think about our bad days and how we deal with them, it's probably
in the same manor.
sorry to sound preachy, i don't mean to come off that way.

Ced-X

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> >If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to
> >show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
> >more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
> >among many of the stars)

As a man myself, I can't believe such old fashioned dinosaurs
still exists.

> >Well, if this rumor is true,

rumors never get true.

> >then GA is on the prowl again, and what
> >if DD and GA got together?
> >That'd be interesting since in XF they are
> >not allowed to have a relationship.

"interesting" ? How old are you ? Are you that last Eve-6 clone ?
Or a USAF pilot, brainwashed by the shadow government ?
No : you must be an alien coming from a galaxy, far, far away !

People get together because they have something in common, because one
of them needs more money ;-), and even sometimes because they love
each other... But never because this will be "interesting".

> >Poor Piper, I feel bad for her, I think GA should keep seeing her even
> >if the two would be separated.

--> THIS IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS <--

You feel bad for a child your never saw, for a mother you never talked
to, and most probably for a woman you have nothing in common with.
I mean : you feel bad for Scully's child, and she has NO CHILD.

Can't you respect the actor's private life ? If Gillian get divorced,
this her choices and she has reasons. I'll modify her biography in my
website, and I'll hope that doesn't affect her too much.
But what do we read here ?
There is not a single post in this group "let's hope that'll make her
happier" or something like this. If all you have to say is
"gillian-got-divorced", let's hope you'll ALSO post on the news when
you get divorced, when there are rumors that your wife is doing your
best friend... When your life explodes.


I just want to tell that there are PEOPLE on this group that do not
like to read comments on this event, this is NOT our lives.

-- Cedric,
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Linda Boivie

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Although I *do* agree with what you're saying to some extent, I don't
think you have any right to be so bitter to people. This is the X-Files
we're talking about. Anything that affects the stars in the show usually
affects us, regardless if it has anything to do with our lives directly.
--
Iron Lung/Sirius/Enigma/whatever *
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vlxxxxxx <danielle...@videotron.ca> wrote in article
<5bokq0$j1i$1...@wagner.spc.videotron.ca>...

>
> way back to you, there are no more threads in that server, so all posts
> get in in ramdom order, most of the time I have no idea of what I am

I may be wrong about this but I think threading is
a function supplied not by the server but by your
client software. Did you chech to see if you had
threading turned on?

Michele

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Jan 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/18/97
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I heard the same thing, but I did not hear that Piper was being sacrificed. I am beginning to think
that maybe Gillian Anderson is not all together on the planey earth. She maintains that her "punk" behaviour
and slut lifestlye was apart of her teenage years, but I am beginning to wonder if Gillian has not yet grown up,
or maybe it is the Peter Pan syndrome.

In article <32D913...@ix.netcom.com>, Chris Parks <ign...@ix.netcom.com> says:
>
>Edward wrote:
>>
>> Fiona Haggart <aa...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Fiona Haggart wrote:
>> >>
>> >> According to my local radio station, GA has ditched husband Clyde in
>> >> favour of a toyboy. She is "quoted" as saying that "I have outgrown him,
>> >> he bores me".
>>
>> >Further to this, the illustrious Sun Newspaper, publishers of all things
>> >tacky and sensasionalist, have said that she has dumped Piper on daddy in
>> >order to be with the toyboy.
>>
>> >If this is true, so much for the image of GA, super-mom.
>>
>> >Fiona


>>
>> It's not surprising that stars' love life would easily end since their
>> work load is too heavy, just look at how many girlfriends David

>> Duchovny's got after starting the X-Files. Gillian Anderson makes like


>> 100 zillion dollars a year (anyone has an exact number of her

>> income?), while Clydes' is what? If I were Clyde I'd be ashamed to


>> show my face in the public since the wife is making like 100 times
>> more. GA didn't even change her last name! (Although this is true
>> among many of the stars)

>> Well, if this rumor is true, then GA is on the prowl again, and what


>> if DD and GA got together? That'd be interesting since in XF they are
>> not allowed to have a relationship.

>> Poor Piper, I feel bad for her, I think GA should keep seeing her even
>> if the two would be separated.
>

>If you married a guy named Clyde Klotz would you change your last name?
>Gillian Clotz? ewwwww....

Tina S

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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Peter Osterhoudt <P.J.Ost...@prodigy.net> wrote in article
<32DEC...@prodigy.net>...

>
> I don't find myself compared to Larry Fortensky very often and don't
> find it flattering but Liz Taylor is a good example of my point. Liz
> Taylor played Viginia Wolff,

Sorry, Larry, er, Bob, you're wrong. She never played Woolf (or any
alternate spellings...).

an intelligent woman, but I'm being
> charitable if I describe Liz as a brain dead slut. Nothiong wrong with
> being a Brain-dead slut mind you, I was merely offering a reminder of
> the difference between the role and the actor.

and the difference between "charity" and personal attack.

NickX15

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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laural wrote:
> One question Bob, how could an actress "nearly uniformly stupid"
> ever portray an intelligent character like Scully??
>
> Just curious as to how you explain away the wonderful
> acting talent GA has. So please respond with meaningful
> answers, not name-calling, okay?
>
>

Well, I'm not Bob, but anyway.

If GA is stupid, and I certainly don't know if she is or not...maybe her
acting ability allows her to portray and intelligent woman despite
this.

It is possible. She seems smart, but who knows? There's lots of
dumb guy actors who play smart people. As far as all the stuff about
her and her husband...do we actually know this breakup has occurred?
Wasn't it written in a tabloid along with the "Space Alien Supports
Gingrich" and "My Baby Ate the Dingo" stories?

Joe

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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Michele wrote:
>
> I heard the same thing, but I did not hear that Piper was being sacrificed. I am beginning to think
> that maybe Gillian Anderson is not all together on the planey earth. She maintains that her "punk" behaviour
> and slut lifestlye was apart of her teenage years, but I am beginning to wonder if Gillian has not yet grown up,
> or maybe it is the Peter Pan syndrome.

Gillian was not a "slut." "You grow up and you calm down" The Clash

Stephen Sisk

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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In article <32DED0...@prodigy.net>, Peter Osterhoudt
<P.J.Ost...@prodigy.net> wrote:

Oh yes you are.

I happen to be an actor in Vancouver. I also happen to have an I.Q. of 167.
You have done more, in your post, to prove that the average I.Q. level is,
by definition, 100, than I could ever have been able to do. I know Gillian,
I also know the so called "Toyboy". They are just friends (they worked
together on one episode). She had already left Clyde, and he has had a
girlfriend/fiance for quite some time. (and they are still together. You,
sir, are simply an asshole. You know none of the people of whom you speak,
therefore, your opinions ar baseless, and quite simply, assinine.

Get a life,
Steve

Cheryl Deluca

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Jan 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/20/97
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>Exactly wrong!!! Women aren't stupid!!! Women who are FBI agents,
>lawyers professors accountants are not stupid!!! Actors and actresses
>are, however, nearly uniformly stupid. My point is that it seems that
>people expect GA to act like Scully who is an extremely intelligent
>woman. GA is an actress, and her public presentations have not been very
>flattering. Women are not stupid, but IMHO, this particular woman is.

>Bob W.
>I'm really not a bad guy.

>Oh yes you are.

>I happen to be an actor in Vancouver. I also happen to have an I.Q. of 167.
>You have done more, in your post, to prove that the average I.Q. level is,
>by definition, 100, than I could ever have been able to do. I know Gillian,
>I also know the so called "Toyboy". They are just friends (they worked
>together on one episode). She had already left Clyde, and he has had a
>girlfriend/fiance for quite some time. (and they are still together. You,
>sir, are simply an asshole. You know none of the people of whom you speak,
>therefore, your opinions ar baseless, and quite simply, assinine.

>Get a life,
>Steve


Wow! I do mostly theatrical acting when I have time - It's something
I do for pleasure since I have familial obligations, but I have to
agree with Steve here. Not all actors are stupid - in fact a great
many of them are highly intelligent, and extremely focussed
individuals. Acting may seem glamorous and to some end it is, but for
the most part it can be physically tiring, and emotionally draining.
Alot of the time it is hurry up and wait, and the rest of the time
work till you drop.

Judging someone you do know is unfair, but judging someone you don't
based on rumour and speculation is idiocy. How people codunct their
lives is realistically their business and casting unfounded
accusations and insults in their direction is undiginified.


Peter Osterhoudt

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Jan 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/20/97
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>
> >Oh yes you are.
>
> >I happen to be an actor in Vancouver. I also happen to have an I.Q. of 167.
> >You have done more, in your post, to prove that the average I.Q. level is,
> >by definition, 100, than I could ever have been able to do. I know Gillian,
> >I also know the so called "Toyboy". They are just friends (they worked
> >together on one episode). She had already left Clyde, and he has had a
> >girlfriend/fiance for quite some time. (and they are still together. You,
> >sir, are simply an asshole. You know none of the people of whom you speak,
> >therefore, your opinions ar baseless, and quite simply, assinine.
>
> >Get a life,
> >Steve
>
> Wow! I do mostly theatrical acting when I have time - It's something
> I do for pleasure since I have familial obligations, but I have to
> agree with Steve here. Not all actors are stupid - in fact a great
> many of them are highly intelligent, and extremely focussed
> individuals. Acting may seem glamorous and to some end it is, but for
> the most part it can be physically tiring, and emotionally draining.
> Alot of the time it is hurry up and wait, and the rest of the time
> work till you drop.
>
> Judging someone you do know is unfair, but judging someone you don't
> based on rumour and speculation is idiocy. How people codunct their
> lives is realistically their business and casting unfounded
> accusations and insults in their direction is undiginified.
I stand corrected. My initial point , however, was the hysteria caused
by this rumors and the seeming way people intertwined the role with the
actor. Both of these rplies are correct in my making statement without
really knowing the participants involved. For this you guys are correct
in calling me an asshole. If you knew me thennyou would know I was
trying to show an absurdity by being absurd, but I did it carelessly. As
for actors being intelligent or not,they like everyone else have
intelligent members of their group and those less gifted mentally.
I humbly apologize for any offense given.

Bob W.

Cheryl Deluca

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Jan 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/20/97
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Linda Boivie <"iron lung"@globalserve.net> wrote:


>> --> THIS IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS <--
>>
>> You feel bad for a child your never saw, for a mother you never talked
>> to, and most probably for a woman you have nothing in common with.
>> I mean : you feel bad for Scully's child, and she has NO CHILD.
>>
>> Can't you respect the actor's private life ? If Gillian get divorced,
>> this her choices and she has reasons. I'll modify her biography in my
>> website, and I'll hope that doesn't affect her too much.
>> But what do we read here ?
>> There is not a single post in this group "let's hope that'll make her
>> happier" or something like this. If all you have to say is
>> "gillian-got-divorced", let's hope you'll ALSO post on the news when
>> you get divorced, when there are rumors that your wife is doing your
>> best friend... When your life explodes.
>>
>> I just want to tell that there are PEOPLE on this group that do not
>> like to read comments on this event, this is NOT our lives.

>Although I *do* agree with what you're saying to some extent, I don't


>think you have any right to be so bitter to people. This is the X-Files
>we're talking about. Anything that affects the stars in the show usually
>affects us, regardless if it has anything to do with our lives directly.

Wow... Umm. Okay - I agree that this really is none of our business.
This is about the life of someone we know only in name and through
what we read in the papers.

In regards to what Clyde made cash wise - who cares - I am one who has
never believed that how a person looks or how much money a person
makes or doesn't make is important.

An finally it's sad to see a marriage end - especially when there is a
child involved, unless ofcoarse it was a abusive relationship..

I just hope everyone comes out of this not too badly hurt by it all.


Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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In <32E3C4...@prodigy.net> Peter Osterhoudt
<P.J.Ost...@prodigy.net> writes:

>I stand corrected. My initial point , however, was the hysteria caused

<VERY cool apology snipped>

>I humbly apologize for any offense given.
>
>Bob W.


You, sir, have class.

Welcome to ATXF

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(who also has class.....it is just low.....)

Atropos

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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vlxxxxxx wrote:
>
> A note off-topic.
>
> Recently, there has been much AOL
> AOL
> AOL
> AOL
> AOL
> AOL bashing on this ng,
> started by the annoying repitition of some posts. Well, I was with AOL,
> recently switched for a Quebec server, and boy! <loooong sigh> DO I MISS
> AOL! <almost crying now, in rage mostly> It took me forever to find my
> way back to you, there are no more threads in that server, so all posts
> get in in ramdom order, most of the time I have no idea of what I am
> doing (hmmmm, that one might not be such a change...)... I mean, AOL was
> so "newbie friendly"....<really sobbing now> There are exactly 19357 post
> now on alt.tv.x-files, and they won't go away, they just keep coming!
> THERE IS NO "MARK ALL READ" ON THIS******* SERVER, and all posts, even
> those i have read, remain there.
> And they keep coming in...
> more and more...
> It is all there...
> From the beginning, 'til the end of times (or 1998, which ever comes
> first)
> This server has seen the birth of X-Ville...and remembers it all...
> <Loosing my sanity now>
> PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!
>

Danielle, cherie, you *do* need help if you miss AOL :). I was
with AOL Canada for a couple of months (this is back before they had
their $19.95/month for unlimited access---this btw, has created the huge
problem with all those multiply posts, trillions of AOL users staying
on-line and posting *and* taxing out the servers, which in turn causes
these servers to crash and glitch up---hence the repeat posts) and man,
was that a pocket drain. Back then AOL was designed to suck money out
of its users! I swear, AOL could've drawn blood from a stone. Anyhow,
enough of my rantings :). With regards to your problem with your news
server, call your tech support, they should be able to help you. Better
yet, just go into the settings of your browser. Netscape Navigator and
Microsoft's Internet Explorer are both very user friendly. Just fiddle
around with the settings, and you should be able to fix your problem
(i.e put a fixed limit on how many posts your news server will download
from newsgroups).

Atropos
...who hasn't slept in over 24 hrs and wonders if she's making any
sense...

PS Just out of curiosity, how much are you paying for your ISP?
Obviously, you don't have to answer that question if you don't want to.

Greg & Denise Hill

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:02:27 -0500, Peter Osterhoudt
<P.J.Ost...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Coleen Sullivan-Baier wrote:
>>
>> > Just because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up
>> >doesn't mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.
>> >

>> >Bob W.
>>
>>
>> c'mon...admit it....you're Larry Fortensky, aren't you??
>>
>>
>> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>> (who wants everyont to know, right out, BEFORE I'm famous, that yes, I
>> am a slut, but I is a very SMART slut...I KNOW stuff...I just DO)


>I don't find myself compared to Larry Fortensky very often and don't
>find it flattering but Liz Taylor is a good example of my point. Liz

>Taylor played Viginia Wolff, an intelligent woman, but I'm being


>charitable if I describe Liz as a brain dead slut. Nothiong wrong with
>being a Brain-dead slut mind you, I was merely offering a reminder of
>the difference between the role and the actor.
>

>Bob W.
>Huh-huh-huh, sluts are cool!

Bob W., YOU are WEIRD. So what if GA and her husband split? Who gives
a rat's ass? And ET can probably buy and sell you--the ability to
wisely invest one's money is incompatable with being a "brain-dead
slut." Were you ever dumped by an actress? Or a woman?

Dawn Garden

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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In article <32E27C...@iglou.com>, laural <da...@iglou.com> writes
>Peter Osterhoudt wrote:

>>
>> camgib wrote:
>> >
>> > > Just because Dana Scully is intelligent and knows which way is up >
>doesn't mean that Ga is not a typical brain-dead slut acteress.
>> >
>> > You mean she's not brain-dead? ALLLL RIGHT!!!! GREAT!
>> >
>> > <with a deadpan face full of sarcasam> Of course not.
>> >
>> > Geez. Some people. Why is it automatic that women are stupid? Why is it
>> > automatic that men are macho and therefore smarter? Why is anything this
>> > or that?
>> >
>> > Forget it, and just get on with your life. Oh that Clyde? Well too bad I
>> > guess for them both, but what the hell do u want me to do sitting here
>> > in Tampa, FL -- a million miles away from anything that's remotely
>> > important. Like GA's hairdo?
>> >
>> > cam gib
>> >
>> > cam gib
>> Exactly wrong!!! Women aren't stupid!!! Women who are FBI agents,
>> lawyers professors accountants are not stupid!!! Actors and actresses
>> are, however, nearly uniformly stupid. My point is that it seems that
>> people expect GA to act like Scully who is an extremely intelligent
>> woman. GA is an actress, and her public presentations have not been very
>> flattering. Women are not stupid, but IMHO, this particular woman is.
>>
>> Bob W.
>> I'm really not a bad guy.
>
>One question Bob, how could an actress "nearly uniformly stupid"
>ever portray an intelligent character like Scully??
>
>Just curious as to how you explain away the wonderful
>acting talent GA has. So please respond with meaningful
>answers, not name-calling, okay?
>
>~laural~


You go, Girl!!!!!!!! (a la Ricki Lake)
I have nothing of relevance to say, except to agree!!

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Patricia Steward

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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In a previous article, c...@linkline.be (Ced-X) says:
>
>I just want to tell that there are PEOPLE on this group that do not
>like to read comments on this event, this is NOT our lives.

Oh, absolutely.

Those who *do* want to read about it, however, are welcome to hie their
butts on over to alt.showbiz.gossip, pull up a chair, and set a spell.


--
"I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I
only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that
differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." Rebecca West, 1913

NGUYEN ALEXANDRIA HONG

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Jan 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/30/97
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In article <32DED0...@prodigy.net>,
Peter Osterhoudt <P.J.Ost...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Exactly wrong!!! Women aren't stupid!!! Women who are FBI agents,
>lawyers professors accountants are not stupid!!! Actors and actresses
>are, however, nearly uniformly stupid. My point is that it seems that
>people expect GA to act like Scully who is an extremely intelligent
>woman. GA is an actress, and her public presentations have not been very
>flattering. Women are not stupid, but IMHO, this particular woman is.
>
>Bob W.
>I'm really not a bad guy.

This is such an ignorant post. To lump all actors in one group and
calling them stupid is incredibly arrogant. Maybe some people who can't
act and want to get into the business don't have that many brain cells.
Maybe some *stars* who are acting right now aren't too bright. But, I
wouldn't lump Gillian in with the lot of them. I happen to know a lot of
people who are trained actors and they're smarter than anyone else I know.
Now I'm not trying to make a snobbish stereotype about theatre vs.
film/television, but Gillian is a trained theatre actor. Have you taken
any theatre courses? Not those courses for beginning actors, but those
courses that really delve into theatre acting and its techniques. It
encompasses everything from Shakespeare, Chekhov, and Pinter to Moliere
and Neil Simon. I think you have to be very intelligent, first of all to
understand the plays, and secondly to put life into those characters. A
good actor needs the ability not only to understand life, but also be able
to recreate it. Gillian has this ability - she is an incredible actress.

I think people have a misconception about GA because she's not in the
smooth-talker-sound-bite-happy mold of lots of stars. I, however, like GA
precisely because she doesn't fit the mold. In her interviews she
rambles. She seems at times painfully shy and uneasy. But she's also
charming and has a dry sense of humour. She comes across like a *real
person* rather than a star going, "Look at me. See how very witty and
smart I sound.." I bet those same stars have daily practice sessions in
front a mirror practicing their artifical smiles. GA is unassuming.
She's an Original. She's not aware of being a *star*, and I'm glad,
because there are too many artificial *stars* out there.

Ali X.

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