Mimi Rodgers is a bad actress
Mylar
Sean Carroll
>
> It's painful to try and watch Mimi
> Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
If Mimi Rogers (which is spelled, by the way, Rogers) were a bad
actress, she wouldn't be able to make hundreds of people hate her
character with a passion.
--
--Sean
http://freecenter.digiweb.com/science_fiction/Pendrell_Jr/index.html
"Nothing happens in contradiction to nature. Only in contradiction to
what we know of it." --Dana Scully
Sean Carroll
>
> Sean Carroll wrote in message <36C7A2D4...@phoenixat.com>...
> >Glaciersea wrote:
> >> It's painful to try and watch Mimi
> >> Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
> >If Mimi Rogers (which is spelled, by the way, Rogers) were a bad
> >actress, she wouldn't be able to make hundreds of people hate her
> >character with a passion.
>
> that Academy Award nomination any time now.
Ah. I see you moved to a new address and lost your killfile.
And I haven't heard much hate directed at Marita since about "Zero Sum".
Glaciersea
Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
Sure hope that character goes away pretty darn fast...
GS
Akakan
Glaciersea <glaci...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990214224542...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
See, I agree with you. I think Diana would be more fun to hate if she were
better cast. MR is incapable of bringing any depth to her role. It's
impossible to imagine what Mulder would see in her.
The other thing is, she's supposed to be pretty hot. MR just hasn't aged
well enough to carry it off.
I have a feeling, DD populates the cast with his friends.
Hurshman
>> Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
>actress, she wouldn't be able to make hundreds of people hate her
>character with a passion.
In that case, Laurie Holden can expect to be getting
that Academy Award nomination any time now.
--
Alan Hurshman
FEB,CCC,etc.
Konrad Douglas Frye
>And I haven't heard much hate directed at Marita since about "Zero Sum".
It's kind of hard to hate a character when they aren't given any screen
time. The casual fan probably just assumed she was dead after what
happened to her in 'PX'/'TRATB'.
-----
Konrad Frye (umfr...@ccu.umanitoba.ca)
Computer Engineering IV
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"Or what? You'll release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with the
bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?"
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Sean Carroll
>
> In <36C7A9CF...@phoenixat.com> Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> writes:
>
> >And I haven't heard much hate directed at Marita since about "Zero Sum".
>
> It's kind of hard to hate a character when they aren't given any screen
> time. The casual fan probably just assumed she was dead after what
> happened to her in 'PX'/'TRATB'.
Yes. Absolutely. She hasn't *done* anything. So she gets neither an Emmy
nor our hatred. Just apathy.
Sarah Meland
>
> Konrad Douglas Frye wrote:
> >
> > In <36C7A9CF...@phoenixat.com> Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> writes:
> >
> > >And I haven't heard much hate directed at Marita since about "Zero Sum".
> >
> > It's kind of hard to hate a character when they aren't given any screen
> > time. The casual fan probably just assumed she was dead after what
> > happened to her in 'PX'/'TRATB'.
>
> Yes. Absolutely. She hasn't *done* anything. So she gets neither an Emmy
> nor our hatred. Just apathy.
>
Um... I actually *liked* Marita -- and Laurie Holden's portrayal of her
-- in this ep. I've always thought she was a bit overdone in the past,
if you know what I mean, but tonight she was more genuine -- of course,
a year in a Consortium lab, being subjected to unspeakable experiments,
can do things to a person. Anyway, I felt sorry for her, in a way I
didn't when she was originally infected in TRaTB... But then, this time,
she didn't screw my Rat and steal his bargaining chip, so...
XOXOXO,
Sarah
--
"Watch where you point that."
Glaciersea
>Date: 2/14/99 7:56 PM Pacific Standard Time
>See, I agree with you. I think Diana would be more fun to hate if she were
>better cast. MR is incapable of bringing any depth to her role. It's
>impossible to imagine what Mulder would see in her.
>
>The other thing is, she's supposed to be pretty hot. MR just hasn't aged
>well enough to carry it off.
>
I think you made a good assessment. It's not that I hate her character it's
just that I can't stand watching her because she just can't pull off the
character. Her acting range is pretty limited as far as I'm concerned.
The suspense and drama of having her character interact between Mulder and
Scully could be really good if only the character was believable and brought
about the tension I'm sure CC intended. It just doesn't work with Mimi in the
role.
Bad, bad casting.
GS
Michael P. Walsh
Sean Carroll wrote:
> Glaciersea wrote:
> >
> > It's painful to try and watch Mimi
> > Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
>
> If Mimi Rogers (which is spelled, by the way, Rogers) were a bad
> actress, she wouldn't be able to make hundreds of people hate her
> character with a passion.
>
> --
> --Sean
> http://freecenter.digiweb.com/science_fiction/Pendrell_Jr/index.html
> "Nothing happens in contradiction to nature. Only in contradiction to
> what we know of it." --Dana Scully
-------
----
Sean, I agree with you completely.
Of course, Diana Fowley must die and I don't
believe she will outlast this season. That
"Guest Star" credit doesn't indicate permanence.
Mike Walsh
Jewlz!
Glaciersea wrote in message <19990215120608...@ng67.aol.com>...
Im sorry but I will have to disagree with you here. I think picking Mimi is
the best thing to do if they wanted someone for the shippers to hate. Mimi
has done a really good job of letting me HATE the foul one. I mean I HATE
fowley! God! I wish she were dead! I absolutley HATE the thought of Flowey
(her new name since she doesn't deserve to be called by her real name) and
Mulder kissing, much less having sex of which I am convinced that they DID
do it. I HATE their personal touches and now kissing and hugging (insert
vomit here). Even if she turns good by some unfathomable way, I would still
hate her!
The only way she can redeem herself now is to acknowledge Mulder's and
Scully's love for each other. Then...I might find a tiny shred of liking
her. UNTIL then...
--
Jewlz! *ihatefouwleyihatefowleyihatefouloneihateflowey!*
Scully: We're the number one alien ass-kickers in the
universe!!
Mulder: YIPPEE!!
-MTV-CDM
RBD
clashes with her paper-white neck. "Okay fellas, we're almost out of
Covergirl here, just put it on her face to the edge of her chin and jaw."
It looks like a dry, flaky, "I use a putty knife to put on my base makeup"
mask. But, then again, I can't tolerate that on anyone.
RBD
Jewlz! wrote in message ...
Digitech
>Of course, Diana Fowley must die and I don't
>believe she will outlast this season. That
>"Guest Star" credit doesn't indicate permanence.
No, not necessarily, but Phil Hartman always got a guest star credit on the
Simpsons, and he must've been in more than 50 episodes. It just indicates
vanity/greed on the part of the guest star.
--Andrew
Anti-Spoiler Crusader
Crazy Canuck Consortium
"I'm offering you a chance to know the truth."
- CSM to Mulder, 'Redux' -- proof spoilers are evil
Digitech
>Digitech wrote:
>>Phil Hartman always got a guest star credit on the
>> Simpsons, and he must've been in more than 50 episodes. It just
indicates
>> vanity/greed on the part of the guest star.
>>
>
>Phil Hartman, it was because
>of his excessive talent. Few would challenge this, I hope!
Oh, of course!!! Hartman was the best! But excessive talent doesn't
guarantee 'Guest Star' credits. 'Guest Star' pretty much just means somebody
paid higher than the other actors and/or somebody who wanted a cool title.
Not to diminish Phil Hartman in any way, to be sure.
--A Gray (was Andrew, this is cooler)
Rex/FOX
>
> Michael P. Walsh wrote in message <36C87B74...@pacbell.net>...
>
> >Of course, Diana Fowley must die and I don't
> >believe she will outlast this season. That
> >"Guest Star" credit doesn't indicate permanence.
>
> Simpsons, and he must've been in more than 50 episodes. It just indicates
> vanity/greed on the part of the guest star.
>
Perhaps this is true with regard to Ms. Rodgers, but as for
Phil Hartman, it was because
of his excessive talent. Few would challenge this, I hope!
Rex
"Objects on our pages may be closer than they appear!"
http://www.rexmedia.com
storml...@hotmail.com
"Akakan" <NOSPAM...@ziplink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Glaciersea <glaci...@aol.com> wrote in article
> <19990214224542...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
> > Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
> >
> >
> > GS
> >
>
> better cast. MR is incapable of bringing any depth to her role. It's
> impossible to imagine what Mulder would see in her.
>
> The other thing is, she's supposed to be pretty hot. MR just hasn't aged
> well enough to carry it off.
Here I must agree. Gillian's gained a slight amount of weight, which
unfortunately is showing in her exquisite face, and she also looked exhausted
(so did DD by the way, and he doesn't carry it any better than she does) -
but Gillian still blows Rogers off the screen, IMHO. Especially in the shower
scene. When I mentioned it to my significant other, he smiled and said,
"Mm-mm, strawberry sundae!" Additional proof, as if any were needed, that he
has excellent taste in women.
Hester
pagan chick
>
> I have a feeling, DD populates the cast with his friends.
>
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storml...@hotmail.com
"Mylar" <My...@aol.com> wrote:
> I believe CC will keep her character around just to keep the fans fuming.
>
And the ratings dropping.
Which, by the way, were lower than expected for "One Son". Alfornos will
provide you with more explicit information - intrepid poster that he is - but
right now the nationals look like "One Son" got a 10.0/16 - the same
household rating "Dreamland II" got. So much for luring back disaffected
mytharc fans.
Hester
pagan chick
storml...@hotmail.com
Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> wrote:
> Glaciersea wrote:
> >
> > It's painful to try and watch Mimi
> > Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
>
> actress, she wouldn't be able to make hundreds of people hate her
> character with a passion.
I think the reason many people hate Fowley has nothing to do with the actress
playing her. It's the idea of throwing in an old flame in a lame, soap-opera
attempt to keep Mulder and Scully apart. It's an offensive idea to many. I
think Mimi's performance has nothing to do with that aspect of it. Of course,
her performance is doing little to alleviate the problem either...
See, Fowley isn't like Alexis Carrington. People LOVED to hate her. In
Fowley's case, people just hate her, period. There's no enjoyment involved.
Which is why the character really needs to go - and quickly.
Hester
pagan chick
>
> --
> --Sean
> http://freecenter.digiweb.com/science_fiction/Pendrell_Jr/index.html
> "Nothing happens in contradiction to nature. Only in contradiction to
> what we know of it." --Dana Scully
>
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Rex/FOX
>
> What I can't stand on MR is the dark makeup they use on her face that
> clashes with her paper-white neck. "Okay fellas, we're almost out of
> Covergirl here, just put it on her face to the edge of her chin and jaw."
> It looks like a dry, flaky, "I use a putty knife to put on my base makeup"
> mask. But, then again, I can't tolerate that on anyone.
>
Who says X-Philes can't be cruel?
--
Rex/FOX
>
>
> If Mimi Rogers (which is spelled, by the way, Rogers) were a bad
> actress, she wouldn't be able to make hundreds of people hate her
> character with a passion.
>
attract such passionate hatred was pretty
good at their job. I think the shippers would go maniacal on
any actress that raises her skirt for Mulder, who isn't
named Scully! Ooooh, I just get tingles when I say her name!
Rex-xoF
M.Smyth
storml...@hotmail.com wrote in message
>And the ratings dropping.
You believe MR is the reason for putting of casual viewers? I really doubt
that.
M.Smyth
Glaciersea wrote in message <19990215120608...@ng67.aol.com>...
>I think you made a good assessment. It's not that I hate her character
it's
>just that I can't stand watching her because she just can't pull off the
>character. Her acting range is pretty limited as far as I'm concerned.
I haven't seen 2f/1s but I saw the Beginning and thought MR was a dreadful .
She only had one expression and always looked like there was something sharp
lodged up her backside.
Digitech
<7abiof$d20$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>And the ratings dropping.
>Which, by the way, were lower than expected for "One Son". Alfornos will
>provide you with more explicit information - intrepid poster that he is -
but
>right now the nationals look like "One Son" got a 10.0/16 - the same
>household rating "Dreamland II" got. So much for luring back disaffected
>mytharc fans.
But wasn't Stephen King's miniseries on that same night? That must have a
lot to do with it.
RBD
Rex/FOX wrote in message <36C98114...@rexmedia.com>...
>RBD wrote:
>>
>> What I can't stand on MR is the dark makeup they use on her face that
>> clashes with her paper-white neck. "Okay fellas, we're almost out of
>> Covergirl here, just put it on her face to the edge of her chin and jaw."
>> It looks like a dry, flaky, "I use a putty knife to put on my base
makeup"
>> mask. But, then again, I can't tolerate that on anyone.
>>
>
>Who says X-Philes can't be cruel?
>
It wasn't me!!
RBD
Sean Carroll
>
> Here I must agree. Gillian's gained a slight amount of weight, which
> unfortunately is showing in her exquisite face, and she also looked exhausted
> (so did DD by the way, and he doesn't carry it any better than she does) -
> but Gillian still blows Rogers off the screen, IMHO.
Well, damn, come on. There is no one Gillian *couldn't* "blow off the
screen".
Sean Carroll
As long as I've been around here, mytharc fans have always been a
minority, and very few of them have become "disaffected". What would
have been the failure here would be to attract people who *didn't* like
the mytharc before.
Digitech
>storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Well, damn, come on. There is no one Gillian *couldn't* "blow off the
>screen".
Hey, she could certainly blow me (off the screen, of course).
--A Gray (was Andrew)
Digitech
<7ad1mg$ni2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <36c9...@news.vphos.net>,
> "Digitech" <digi...@axionet.com> wrote:
>>
>> But wasn't Stephen King's miniseries on that same night? That must have a
>> lot to do with it.
>
>always-chancy Stephen King adaptation? I don't know. There must be some
other
>explanation.
Indeed. Perhaps it is that not *everyone* who watches the X-Files is a
mytharc addict?
<shrug>
I dunno, maybe someone can explain this.
Sean Carroll
>
> > But wasn't Stephen King's miniseries on that same night? That must have a
> > lot to do with it.
>
> Maybe. But what mytharc addict could have seriously been lured away by an
> always-chancy Stephen King adaptation? I don't know. There must be some other
> explanation.
No mytharc addict would be. But the truth is, mytharc addicts are a
nearly vanished breed. (Of course they are; how could I be one if their
viewpoint was popular?) So I don't think people being pulled away from
it for something else can be dismissed so quickly.
Sean Carroll
> >screen".
>
> Hey, she could certainly blow me (off the screen, of course).
Watch your step, you don't want to fall out of my good graces ... ;P
Digitech
>Digitech wrote:
>
>> Hey, she could certainly blow Sean (off the screen, of course).
>
>Watch your step, you don't want to fall out of my good graces ... ;P
Fine. You'll notice that I have now changed 'me' to 'Sean' in the above
quote. Happy?
Sean Carroll
>
> >> Hey, she could certainly blow Sean (off the screen, of course).
> >
> >Watch your step, you don't want to fall out of my good graces ... ;P
>
> Fine. You'll notice that I have now changed 'me' to 'Sean' in the above
> quote. Happy?
Immensely. ;)
Digitech
>Digitech wrote:
>> Fine. You'll notice that I have now changed 'me' to 'Sean' in the above
>> quote. Happy?
>
>Immensely. ;)
Ah, you're so easy to please ... here, I'll do it again.
Scully!
Scully's feet!
Scully in Chinga!
Enjoy. :)
storml...@hotmail.com
Well, your guess is as good as mine, actually, but she DOES play a
very-much-hated character that few people really wanted to see return for a
variety of reasons...so, as I said, your guess is as good as mine.
Hester
pagan chick
storml...@hotmail.com
>
> >And the ratings dropping.
>
> >Which, by the way, were lower than expected for "One Son". Alfornos will
> >provide you with more explicit information - intrepid poster that he is -
> but
> >right now the nationals look like "One Son" got a 10.0/16 - the same
> >mytharc fans.
>
> But wasn't Stephen King's miniseries on that same night? That must have a
> lot to do with it.
Maybe. But what mytharc addict could have seriously been lured away by an
always-chancy Stephen King adaptation? I don't know. There must be some other
explanation.
Hester
mlt...@accnorwalk.com
storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <01be5896$eef317c0$09930fce@default>,
> "Akakan" <NOSPAM...@ziplink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Glaciersea <glaci...@aol.com> wrote in article
> > <19990214224542...@ng-fr1.aol.com>...
> > > Rodgers act--that was some really bad casting for the part of Diana.
> > >
> > >
> > > GS
> > >
> >
> > See, I agree with you. I think Diana would be more fun to hate if she were
> > better cast. MR is incapable of bringing any depth to her role. It's
> > impossible to imagine what Mulder would see in her.
> >
> > The other thing is, she's supposed to be pretty hot. MR just hasn't aged
> > well enough to carry it off.
>
> unfortunately is showing in her exquisite face, and she also looked exhausted
> (so did DD by the way, and he doesn't carry it any better than she does) -
> scene. When I mentioned it to my significant other, he smiled and said,
> "Mm-mm, strawberry sundae!" Additional proof, as if any were needed, that he
> has excellent taste in women.
>
> Hester
> pagan chick
> >
> > I have a feeling, DD populates the cast with his friends.
> >
>
You know I actually thought GA's face looked thinner last Sunday. perhaps the
hair is growing out some. On GAWS there are pics from Sundays performance in
London and her face looks really thin now. Looks like she lost quite a bit of
weight again. If she reads this newsgroup she's probably starving herself to
get thinner. CC said he reads people's comments and sometimes gets annoyed by
them. I'm sure he wouldn't care for the "tonnage" posts about GA. Maybe
that's why we are seeing Scully "wet" scenes more often now.
Sarah E. Aalderink
wrote:
>Sean Carroll wrote in message <36CA0A93...@phoenixat.com>...
>>storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>Well, damn, come on. There is no one Gillian *couldn't* "blow off the
>>screen".
>
>Hey, she could certainly blow me (off the screen, of course).
>
<wiping forehead with the back of my hand> Whew! I thought *I was
going to have to go for the obvious perversion for a second there.
Lt.Colonel Lady Sally out.
CO, 5th Business, X-Ville, alt.tv.x-files.x-ville
FEB, PAA - lab assistant to the Chairman
"Proportional or fixed pitch?" - Stacey O.
storml...@hotmail.com
Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> wrote:
> storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Here I must agree. Gillian's gained a slight amount of weight, which
> > unfortunately is showing in her exquisite face, and she also looked
exhausted
> > (so did DD by the way, and he doesn't carry it any better than she does) -
> > but Gillian still blows Rogers off the screen, IMHO.
>
> screen".
Damn straight.
Hester
pagan chick
DonChep
> In article <36CA0A93...@phoenixat.com>,
> Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> wrote:
> > storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Here I must agree. Gillian's gained a slight amount of weight, which
> > > unfortunately is showing in her exquisite face, and she also looked
> exhausted
> > > (so did DD by the way, and he doesn't carry it any better than she does) -
> > > but Gillian still blows Rogers off the screen, IMHO.
> >
> > Well, damn, come on. There is no one Gillian *couldn't* "blow off the
> > screen".
>
I say this, and I think I speak for a lot of the guys here, I don't think
there are too many guys who wouldn't want Gillian to blow them off the
screen :)
--------------------------------------------------------
Solemnity is always used by authority to stop
critical thinking. - Matt Groening
Jose Bermudez
FEB - "Goodnight Stacey"
Si Se Puede!
--------------------------------------------------------
Chris 'Coz' Costello
>And the ratings dropping.
>
>Which, by the way, were lower than expected for "One Son". Alfornos will
>provide you with more explicit information - intrepid poster that he is - but
>right now the nationals look like "One Son" got a 10.0/16 - the same
>household rating "Dreamland II" got. So much for luring back disaffected
>mytharc fans.
If a shippy episode got those exact same ratings, you'd be shouting
from the rooftops how it was evidence that the 'ship is what everyone
wants. The consistency with which you twist everything and anything
to support what is no more than your own opinion is mind-numbing.
Later,
COZ
NP: _Polytown_
--
Chris 'Coz' Costello | http://www.enteract.com/~coz/ | c...@enteract.com
"H I P N E S S I S T R A N S I E N T...you've got to change
in order to be continually hip." - Vinnie Colaiuta
Sean Carroll
>
> Ah, you're so easy to please
Not really ... except for when it comes to Scully. ;)
> ... here, I'll do it again.
>
> Scully!
>
> Scully's feet!
>
> Scully in Chinga!
>
> Enjoy. :)
Mmm. <drool> I think I need to play a tape ...
storml...@hotmail.com
c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >And the ratings dropping.
> >
> >Which, by the way, were lower than expected for "One Son". Alfornos will
> >provide you with more explicit information - intrepid poster that he is - but
> >right now the nationals look like "One Son" got a 10.0/16 - the same
> >household rating "Dreamland II" got. So much for luring back disaffected
> >mytharc fans.
>
> If a shippy episode got those exact same ratings, you'd be shouting
> from the rooftops how it was evidence that the 'ship is what everyone
> wants. The consistency with which you twist everything and anything
> to support what is no more than your own opinion is mind-numbing.
The hell I would. "Dreamland II" got those exact same ratings and frankly I
wondered what exactly was going on. Then I did a little homework and
realized that the ratings ALWAYS go up and down for TXF from episode to
episode - just take a look at last season. The ratings there went as high as
a 16 and as low as an 8.
The significant thing in this case is that the two parter was supposed to be a
huge blockbuster-type ratings-grabber - FINALLY answers were going to be
provided to a five-year mystery, and this ploy was supposed to lure back what
somebody up at Fox/1013 assumed were disaffected viewers. The actual numbers
fell well short of blockbuster. Read into that what you will. Myself, I think
that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied with a
reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
storml...@hotmail.com
Chris 'Coz' Costello
>that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
>better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied with a
>reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
I want to be sure...
Later,
COZ
NP: Frank Zappa, _You Are What You Is_
Sarah E. Aalderink
wrote:
>Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
>10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
>I want to be sure...
>
Gods, I love watching Coz stir things up.
DonChep
> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >Myself, I think
> >that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
> >better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied with a
> >reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
>
> Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
> 10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
> I want to be sure...
>
That's the way I bet on sports teams. Damn! No wonder I've been having
lousy luck. I've been leaving the spread too wide open with me giving the
losing teams 1 point or better. :)
Reverend Dragonspirit
from a dirty book store. She stars as one of the nurses.
-Reverend Dragonspirit
robert...@schwab.com
<...>
>
> I think you made a good assessment. It's not that I hate her character it's
> just that I can't stand watching her because she just can't pull off the
> character. Her acting range is pretty limited as far as I'm concerned.
I've got to agree. I don't know if the character is simply beyond
her or if she just isn't any good as an actress, but lately it's
gotten so bad that I find myself booing the TV whenever she comes
on. She's just flat out awful and putting her in a scene with GA
just amplifies that awfulness to the point where it's unendurable.
CSM's got to have a couple more bullets in that gun. If he can kill
his son, he should be able to do in son's so-called partner as well.
> The suspense and drama of having her character interact between Mulder and
> Scully could be really good if only the character was believable and brought
> about the tension I'm sure CC intended. It just doesn't work with Mimi in the
> role.
I'm guessing that's what he was after and I think that's half the
problem. Fowley wasn't brought in because she was somehow interesting
in and of herself. She was brought in to make Scully jealous and even
GA's normally subtle acting can't disguise how blatantly manipulative
the writing has become on this subject. Point in case, even the shippers
aren't buying this crapola. They know there's no chemistry between
Mulder and Fowley. If CC does read any of this stuff, I hope he reads
this and writes a quick exit for Fowley.
Robert St. James
(lights in the sky)
Alisoun
> Rumor has it that Sarah E. Aalderink put forth the following:
> >Gods, I love watching Coz stir things up.
>
> rouser. ;P
>
But he's so dreeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaammmmmmy!
--
Alisoun
FEB, LOON, MM, CotHP, GABAL grrrrl
Slayerette-in-training
h e r b t i e h @ u s a . n e t
storml...@hotmail.com
c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >Myself, I think
> >that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
> >better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied with
a
> >reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
>
> Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
> 10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
> I want to be sure...
Yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear on that. What I MEANT to say, was a 10 or 10.5 or
some such, which is pretty much the average rating so far this season. Which
is still pretty darned good.
Hester
pagan chick
>
> Later,
> COZ
>
> NP: Frank Zappa, _You Are What You Is_
>
> --
> Chris 'Coz' Costello | http://www.enteract.com/~coz/ | c...@enteract.com
>
> "H I P N E S S I S T R A N S I E N T...you've got to change
> in order to be continually hip." - Vinnie Colaiuta
>
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storml...@hotmail.com
sard...@dallas.net (Sarah E. Aalderink) wrote:
> On 17 Feb 1999 21:39:03 GMT, c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello)
> wrote:
>
> >Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
> >10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
> >I want to be sure...
> >
I don't think he was stirring. I think I didn't make myself clear, and he was
asking for clarification. A very reasonable request.
Hester
pagan chick
storml...@hotmail.com
DonChep <jber...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> On 17 Feb 1999, Chris 'Coz' Costello wrote:
>
> > <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> > >Myself, I think
> > >that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
> > >better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied
with a
> > >reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
> >
> > 10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
> > I want to be sure...
> >
>
> lousy luck. I've been leaving the spread too wide open with me giving the
> losing teams 1 point or better. :)
Okay! Okay! I apologize all over the place!
Hester
pagan chick
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Solemnity is always used by authority to stop
> critical thinking. - Matt Groening
>
> Jose Bermudez
> FEB - "Goodnight Stacey"
> Si Se Puede!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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Chris 'Coz' Costello
> c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
>> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
>> >Myself, I think
>> >that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
>> >better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied with
>a
>> >reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
>>
>> Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
>> 10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
>> I want to be sure...
>
>some such, which is pretty much the average rating so far this season. Which
>is still pretty darned good.
So, what you're saying is that the much-ballyhooed "disappointing
ratings" aren't really disappointing at *all*, except maybe in light
of unrealistic expectations, and that your arguments over the past
two and a half months claiming that ratings were bad because the
ads weren't shippy enough, or because shippers were becoming
disillusioned en masse because the episodes themselves weren't
shippy enough, were wrong?
Later,
COZ (suddenly considering a law degree)
NP: Tony Williams Lifetime, _The Collection_
Rufie710
ah...@GARBAGEusa.net (Hank) wrote:
> >>
> >Gods, I love watching Coz stir things up.
>
> He's just an instigator. That's all he is. A common, two-bit rabble
> rouser. ;P
>
>
> Hank Vaughn,
and he's a really cute rabble rouser.......the best kind.
Ruth , who needs some rabble roused.
--
rufie710
"I tried Reality once, I found it too confining"
Jewlz!
Rufie710 wrote in message ...
>In article <36cc40ed...@nntp.best.ix.netcom.com>,
>ah...@GARBAGEusa.net (Hank) wrote:
>
>
>> >>
>> >Gods, I love watching Coz stir things up.
>>
>> He's just an instigator. That's all he is. A common, two-bit rabble
>> rouser. ;P
>>
>>
>> Hank Vaughn,
>
>and he's a really cute rabble rouser.......the best kind.
>
>Ruth , who needs some rabble roused.
ROTFLMAO!!
>
>--
>rufie710
>"I tried Reality once, I found it too confining"
--
Jewlz!
Scully: We're the number one alien ass-kickers in the
universe!!
Mulder: YIPPEE!!
-MTV-CDM
>
Michael P. Walsh
storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > >Yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear on that. What I MEANT to say, was a 10 or 10.5 or
> > >some such, which is pretty much the average rating so far this season. Which
> > >is still pretty darned good.
> >
> > So, what you're saying is that the much-ballyhooed "disappointing
> > ratings" aren't really disappointing at *all*, except maybe in light
> > of unrealistic expectations, and that your arguments over the past
> > two and a half months claiming that ratings were bad because the
> > ads weren't shippy enough, or because shippers were becoming
> > disillusioned en masse because the episodes themselves weren't
> > shippy enough, were wrong?
>
> The ratings for the two-parter WERE disappointing. FWIW, an article in
> today's USA Today pointed out that the ratings for the two-parter "barely
> capped" the average this season. Fox was expecting blockbuster. So apparently
> the "unrealistic expectations" were those of Twentieth Century Fox, not li'l
> ol' moi. I think the ratings this season have been fine, except for "SR819",
> which lost out to a rerun of "The Fugitive", for crying out loud.
> Interestingly, that ep followed the airing of "Rain King" which FWIW many
> shippers found offensive. And "One Son" didn't even make the top 20 this week
> in the ratings, and any shipper that read spoilers knew that the dreaded
> Fowley-Mulder kiss was in that episode. So I don't think it's unreasonable
> that shipper disaffection may have played a part here. Now this is just a
> theory of mine; I have no hard numbers to back it up, I'll freely admit. But
> I think it's a reasonable theory nonetheless.
>
> Hester
> pagan chick
------
---
Thinking over another set of numbers there are perhaps
1000 postings per day to this newsgroup with many of
them multiple postings by the same people.
My belief is that the entire newsgroup, including
lurkers is statistically insignificant. The posturings
of the people in this newsgroup, on whatever side,
has meaning only to the people in this newsgroup.
Just in case Chris Carter doesn't realize this (unlikely)
and was possibly over-reacting to the frenzied
posters of those deluded individuals who didn't
like "Rain King" I did a posting specifically having
a subject heading referring to him. Obviously if
he reads this newsgroup and reacts to what is posted
on it the significance of the newsgroup increases vastly.
Otherwise it is just an insignificant number of people who
enjoy (or otherwise) exchanging views with other people
who discuss "The X-Files".
Mike Walsh
storml...@hotmail.com
c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >In article <7afctn$gui$1...@eve.enteract.com>,
> > c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> >> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >> >Myself, I think
> >> >that the best anyone can expect of a five-year old drama is a 10 rating or
> >> >better, and that maybe Fox could try to curb its greed and be satisfied
with
> >a
> >> >reasonable showing for a change. Like *that's* likely.
> >>
> >> Is that really what you meant to say? The *best* they could expect is a
> >> 10 or *better*? It doesn't track, and while I *think* I get your meaning,
> >> I want to be sure...
> >
Hester
pagan chick
>
> Later,
> COZ (suddenly considering a law degree)
>
> NP: Tony Williams Lifetime, _The Collection_
>
> --
> Chris 'Coz' Costello | http://www.enteract.com/~coz/ | c...@enteract.com
>
> "H I P N E S S I S T R A N S I E N T...you've got to change
> in order to be continually hip." - Vinnie Colaiuta
>
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Kristen A Kinnear
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Michael P. Walsh wrote:
> storml...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Otherwise it is just an insignificant number of people who
> enjoy (or otherwise) exchanging views with other people
> who discuss "The X-Files".
i think this is the heart of it. what did people do before
computers and instant feedback? whatever they wanted to! this show is CC's
and we are just the people that sit back and watch every week. it's nice
that they sometimes lurk to get a feel for our opinions but that's all
very subjective . . . perhaps i'm used to this sort of subjectivity given
my field of study.
the long and short of it is that this ng is pretty much a
phenomenon isolated from the general populace. just a cozy group of
'philes!
*** kristenk.
*** kkin...@buffalo.edu
*** http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~kkinnear
Chris 'Coz' Costello
>shippers found offensive. And "One Son" didn't even make the top 20 this week
>in the ratings, and any shipper that read spoilers knew that the dreaded
>Fowley-Mulder kiss was in that episode. So I don't think it's unreasonable
>that shipper disaffection may have played a part here. Now this is just a
>theory of mine; I have no hard numbers to back it up, I'll freely admit. But
>I think it's a reasonable theory nonetheless.
It's just a theory, and you have no numbers to back it up, but you
still feel compelled to ram this theory down the group's collective
throat at every opportunity. It really makes no difference to me
whether you have a theory or not. It's when you, and this is a
more figurative 'you,' relentlessly assert that your theory is
unequivocally right that I get annoyed. Shipper disaffection
certainly may play a part, but you go on and on and on about how it
is the key driver to the show's ultimate success, and that's narrow-
minded to the point of being painful. Let it go once in a while.
The repetition of opinion on this group, due solely to some misguided
notion that you have to reiterate your point in every single thread
on the topic lest someone not be clear as to your position (and this
is, once again, the figurative 'you'), is absolutely mind-numbing.
Especially so when trying to get through over 1000 posts.
This happens to be a pet peeve of mine. In fact, substitute "stupid
questions" for "shipper disaffection" and "wasting bandwidth" for
"the show's ultimate success," and this is exactly my problem with,
um, other people. Such adherence to one's beliefs and principles
would be admirable in an arena where it actually *counted* for
something, but here it tends to make you look like a loony.
The opposing viewpoint may not be wrong; just different. In
either case, try to understand *why* that viewpoint even exists.
Accomodating those other viewpoints, even if you disagree with
them, gives you a more accurate picture of the whole.
Otherwise, you have seen butt pieces.
<end rant>
Later,
COZ
NP: David Bowie, _Earthling_
Michael P. Walsh
Chris 'Coz' Costello wrote:
------
---
Lighten up, Mr. Coz
As for your comments:
----
This happens to be a pet peeve of mine. In fact, substitute "stupid
questions" for "shipper disaffection" and "wasting bandwidth" for
"the show's ultimate success," and this is exactly my problem with,
um, other people. Such adherence to one's beliefs and principles
would be admirable in an arena where it actually *counted* for
something, but here it tends to make you look like a loony.
----
What better area to be looked at as a loony than
alt.tv.x-files?
I have been dumping on people who didn't like
"Rain King" and defending the capabilities of
Mimi Rogers but I insist on defending:
"THE RIGHT TO RANT"
Mike Walsh
Chris 'Coz' Costello
>I have been dumping on people who didn't like
>"Rain King" and defending the capabilities of
>Mimi Rogers but I insist on defending:
>
>"THE RIGHT TO RANT"
So do I (about the right to rant). I'm just trying to advocate
the idea that if my rant disagrees with your rant, that I don't
dismiss your rant out of hand, because you may have valid reasons
for ranting. Understanding those reasons helps inform my own view.
Later,
COZ
NP: Tortoise, _TNT_
storml...@hotmail.com
c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >Interestingly, that ep followed the airing of "Rain King" which FWIW many
> >shippers found offensive. And "One Son" didn't even make the top 20 this week
> >in the ratings, and any shipper that read spoilers knew that the dreaded
> >Fowley-Mulder kiss was in that episode. So I don't think it's unreasonable
> >that shipper disaffection may have played a part here. Now this is just a
> >theory of mine; I have no hard numbers to back it up, I'll freely admit. But
> >I think it's a reasonable theory nonetheless.
>
> It's just a theory, and you have no numbers to back it up, but you
> still feel compelled to ram this theory down the group's collective
> throat at every opportunity.
Yet you read it. You shouldn't get addicted to stuff that affects you this
way, really.
Hester
pagan chick
Chris 'Coz' Costello
>In article <7akqm0$80t$1...@eve.enteract.com>,
> c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
>> It's just a theory, and you have no numbers to back it up, but you
>> still feel compelled to ram this theory down the group's collective
>> throat at every opportunity.
>
>Yet you read it. You shouldn't get addicted to stuff that affects you this
>way, really.
Get over yourself.
Later,
COZ
NP: Lenny Kravitz, _5_
storml...@hotmail.com
c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> <storml...@hotmail.com> had this to say:
> >In article <7akqm0$80t$1...@eve.enteract.com>,
> > c...@enteract.com (Chris 'Coz' Costello) wrote:
> >> It's just a theory, and you have no numbers to back it up, but you
> >> still feel compelled to ram this theory down the group's collective
> >> throat at every opportunity.
> >
> >Yet you read it. You shouldn't get addicted to stuff that affects you this
> >way, really.
>
> Get over yourself.
(Sings) Whoah, baby...there ain't no gettin' over me.