BARRY EVANS RIP
- TRIBUTE - RIP
It was sad news this week when a once famous star of film and tv
was reported as dead, worst still when it likes like murder?
Barry Evans was the idol of many young teenagers during the late 60's
and early 70's, appearing in a number of movies. The most noteable
being his first ever role as Jamie Mcgregor in the 1967 film, "Here we
go round the mulberry bush". A film about a young lad experiencing
the permissive society. Filmed entirely on location in the (then) New
Town of Stevenage, Hertfordshire (my hometown!), it also starred Judy
Geeson, with whome he had a serious affair in real life, Adrianne Poste,
Christopher Timothy, George Layton, Shelia White, Dehmon Elliot.
He also starred in a number of other low budget productions, mostly
sex comedy, one of his biggest box office hits was the "Adventures of
a taxi driver", Judy Geeson starred again! with Robert Lindsey, Diana
Dors, (made in 1976).
His TV appearances were noteably Doctor in the House with Robin Nedwell,
and Mind your language (1978 - 1980), often pulling in 19 million
viewers.
Despite a few plays in theatres around the UK, he turned his back
on the showbusiness world, (possibly due to lack of work), and
became a taxi driver in real life - The last 12 months he was running
his own one man taxi business.
He never married, lived alone, and from gossip, never spoke too much
about his previous actors life.
I feel sad that as a fan of all movies and stars of the 60/70's
that I never had the chance to meet him, and ask him about his life
during his heyday as a star. (I bet he had some great stories to tell).
What a pity he died so young, 52, and how the press only briefly
covered the story.
If anyone knows more about Barry Evans or any movies he appeared in
please let me know.
Thank you.
Barry Evans RIP.
Aharon Nissan Varady
Dear fellow x-files watchers,
Regarding the most recent episode, I'd just like to point out that
according to Jewish lore, a golem must be formed from "pure" soil, by
this I mean according to the concept of purity in the Jewish tradition.
According to the traditional Jewish worldview, death is the negation of
life, life being a state where goodness can be done on earth, purity is
related to an objects proximity to life. Therefore, a corpse and a
cemetary are conceptually related to impurity. Golem is related to the
hebrew word for foetus, a primal Adam, Adam being formed from adamah,
the hebrew word for earth (soil). Hence, the formation of the golem in
the cemetary is inaccurate.
There are other minor inaccuracies: her father's beard would not likely
be trimmed. In yiddish, "father" is pronounced ta-tee (emphasis on the
ta), not ta-tay. Even though the weight of the melodrama was a little
overbearing at times, it was a pleasure to see the realm of Jewish
mysticism explored at least superficially, in the x-files.
Sincerely,
Aharon
P.S. (According to Moshe Idel, in his book _Golem_ the creation of an
anthropoid, a golem, by an adam, a man, is the achievement of a
kabbalist who has achieved a level of holiness, where the mystic has
achieved a very holy level of creativity like that of Divine creation.)
Raina Steiner
Aharon Nissan Varady wrote:
> There are other minor inaccuracies: her father's beard would not likely
> be trimmed. In yiddish, "father" is pronounced ta-tee (emphasis on the
> ta), not ta-tay.
Also, she would not have said Kaddish at the end because Kaddish is only
said in the presence of a minyan (10 Jewish men). There were several
other unlikelyhoods.
Raina
JN Cotton
In <3307FB...@ziplink.net> Aharon Nissan Varady
<star...@ziplink.net> writes:
>
>Dear fellow x-files watchers,
>
>Regarding the most recent episode, I'd just like to point out that
>according to Jewish lore, a golem must be formed from "pure" soil, by
>this I mean according to the concept of purity in the Jewish
tradition.
>According to the traditional Jewish worldview, death is the negation
of
>life, life being a state where goodness can be done on earth, purity
is
>related to an objects proximity to life. Therefore, a corpse and a
>cemetary are conceptually related to impurity. Golem is related to the
>hebrew word for foetus, a primal Adam, Adam being formed from adamah,
>the hebrew word for earth (soil). Hence, the formation of the golem in
>the cemetary is inaccurate.
likely
>be trimmed. In yiddish, "father" is pronounced ta-tee (emphasis on the
>overbearing at times, it was a pleasure to see the realm of Jewish
>mysticism explored at least superficially, in the x-files.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Aharon
>
>star...@ziplink.net
>
>P.S. (According to Moshe Idel, in his book _Golem_ the creation of an
>anthropoid, a golem, by an adam, a man, is the achievement of a
>kabbalist who has achieved a level of holiness, where the mystic has
>achieved a very holy level of creativity like that of Divine
creation.)
THANK YOU! I was really hoping someone who knew something about this
could shed some light on tonight's episode. I appreciate your comments.
Nancy (no clever sig)
OBSSE ~=
Megan McLeod
Aharon Nissan Varady (star...@ziplink.net) writes:
> ta), not ta-tay. Even though the weight of the melodrama was a little
> overbearing at times, it was a pleasure to see the realm of Jewish
> mysticism explored at least superficially, in the x-files.
And it's a pleasure for someone with a lot more knowledge of Judaism to
explain a bit more about what a Golem really is. Thank you.
--
"Nobody ever lends money to a man with a sense of humour." --Peter Tork
"Everything belongs to me because I am poor." --Jack Kerouac
Kommandant Megan auf dem Wasserblupt hier. az...@freenet.carleton.ca
Parrotfish
Raina Steiner wrote:
>
> Aharon Nissan Varady wrote:
>
> > There are other minor inaccuracies: her father's beard would not likely
> > be trimmed. In yiddish, "father" is pronounced ta-tee (emphasis on the
> > ta), not ta-tay.
I could forgive all the show's inaccuracies, but this mispronunciation
of "tata" was unbearable. For all you English-speakers, imagine watching
a movie in which a daughter keeps calling her father "doody" because the
actress can't pronounce "daddy." It made it impossible to suspend
disbelief. I remember, after the goat-sucker episode, a lot of Spanish
speakers had similar problems. I guess that's the danger of telling
stories of unfamiliar cultures -- without extensive research, such
mistakes are inevitable.
Some other inaccuracies I caught:
-- The murder of Yankl Rosenbaum was mentioned as having occurred in
Williamsburg. It was actually Crown Heights.
-- The Chasidim prayed using the Hebrew accents of Middle Eastern Jews
rather than Eastern European Jews.
-- The primary sect of Chasidim living in Williamsburg are the Satmar
Chasidim, who originate in Hungary. While there are other sects in
Williamsburg, I don't believe any of them came from anywhere near
Prague. My father grew up in the Orthodox (non-Chasidic) community in
Williamsburg, and I checked this with him, so I'm pretty sure this is
right. (BTW -- The most famous version of the golem story has to do with
the great rabbi known as the Maharal of Prague, which is why the show
chose to portray this community as being from there.)
-- When M&S walked into the synagogue, those guys would've freaked out
at the presence of a woman. They took Scully's intrusion rather more
calmly than I'd have expected!
-- The beards and payos (earlocks) on the extras looked so fake, you
could practically see strings tied behind their heads! (Reminds me of a
famous story about a movie involving Chasidim that was being filmed in
the diamond district in New York. Seems some of the extras caused quite
a stir in the neighborhood when, in full costume, they walked into a
local diner and ordered blt's!)
> Also, she would not have said Kaddish at the end because Kaddish is only
> said in the presence of a minyan (10 Jewish men). There were several
> other unlikelyhoods.
> Raina
In fact, she wouldn't have said kaddish at all. She's a woman.
Parrotfish
Abe Kraus
Parrotfish wrote:
>
> Raina Steiner wrote:
> >
> > Aharon Nissan Varady wrote:
> >
> > > There are other minor inaccuracies: her father's beard would not likely
> > > be trimmed. In yiddish, "father" is pronounced ta-tee (emphasis on the
> > > ta), not ta-tay.
>
> I could forgive all the show's inaccuracies, but this mispronunciation
> of "tata" was unbearable. For all you English-speakers, imagine watching
> a movie in which a daughter keeps calling her father "doody" because the
> actress can't pronounce "daddy." It made it impossible to suspend
> disbelief. I remember, after the goat-sucker episode, a lot of Spanish
> speakers had similar problems. I guess that's the danger of telling
> stories of unfamiliar cultures -- without extensive research, such
> mistakes are inevitable.
my sister an I were wincing everytime we heard that.
> Some other inaccuracies I caught:
>
> -- The primary sect of Chasidim living in Williamsburg are the Satmar
> Chasidim, who originate in Hungary. While there are other sects in
> Williamsburg, I don't believe any of them came from anywhere near
> Prague. My father grew up in the Orthodox (non-Chasidic) community in
> Williamsburg, and I checked this with him, so I'm pretty sure this is
> right.
Actually though you are right that Williamsburg is dominated by the
Satmar Chassidim, there are a number of Chassidic sects that originated
or settled near Prague. Two of my grandparents are from two of those
sects. There aren't many in Williamsburg (mostly in Borough Park),but
there are some.
(BTW -- The most famous version of the golem story has to do with
> the great rabbi known as the Maharal of Prague, which is why the show
> chose to portray this community as being from there.)
>
> -- When M&S walked into the synagogue, those guys would've freaked out
> at the presence of a woman. They took Scully's intrusion rather more
> calmly than I'd have expected!
Absolutely!!
>
> -- The beards and payos (earlocks) on the extras looked so fake, you
> could practically see strings tied behind their heads! (Reminds me of a> famous story about a movie involving Chasidim that was being filmed
in the diamond district in New York. Seems some of the extras caused
quite
> a stir in the neighborhood when, in full costume, they walked into a
> local diner and ordered blt's!)
> The movie was A Stranger Among Us and it was pathetically inaccurate!
> > Also, she would not have said Kaddish at the end because Kaddish is only
> > said in the presence of a minyan (10 Jewish men). There were several
> > other unlikelyhoods.
> In fact, she wouldn't have said kaddish at all. She's a woman.
>
> Absolutely correct Parrotfish!
Naomi P. Kraus
np...@hotmail.com
Ryann Gerber
Parrotfish wrote:
>
> -- When M&S walked into the synagogue, those guys would've freaked out
> at the presence of a woman. They took Scully's intrusion rather more
> calmly than I'd have expected!
Not to mention the fact that Scully kept touching the men...I think
there would have been a little more reaction then that!
> In fact, she wouldn't have said kaddish at all. She's a woman.
Women say Kaddish...isn't it said at every Yom Tov (holiday)? Don't
women go to yom tov services? It may not be commanded but that doesn't
mean they don't know/can't say it.
Abe Kraus
Kaddish is said every day, not just at holidays. Women do not recite
Kaddish but may answer amen to some of its blessings.
Naomi P. Kraus
np...@hotmail.com
rdk...@facstaff.wisc.edu
In article <3308C2...@ibm.net>, Parrotfish <parro...@ibm.net> wrote:
>-- When M&S walked into the synagogue, those guys would've freaked out
>at the presence of a woman. They took Scully's intrusion rather more
>calmly than I'd have expected!
I don't think they would have freaked out. Williamsburg is a
very closed community for people of Jacob Weiss's generation
(per a sociological study called, iirc, "The Jewish Community
of Williamsburg"). Most of that generation had social contacts
exclusively in their own community, and so the men praying
with Jacob Weiss would all be likely to know about Weiss's
troubles and the earlier visit by the FBI.
When Mulder and Scully walk in, their response would have
been exactly what was portrayed: closed faces that
reveal nothing to outsiders who represent a threat to one
of their own (and of course, Jacob Weiss does run, a moment
later).
A woman of the community intruding might have surprised them,
but why should they be surprised by the boorishness of outsiders?
Raina Steiner
Abe Kraus wrote:
>
> > In fact, she wouldn't have said kaddish at all. She's a woman.
> >
> > Absolutely correct Parrotfish!
>
> Naomi P. Kraus
Okay, I take your word for it in regard to the Chassidic world and much
of the orthodox world. But I it is permitted for a woman (if not common
practice) to say kaddish. They do in our (o) shul.
Raina
Tony Marelich
Given the extenuating (sp?) circumstances of her husbands re-death, her
bereavment, and the risk of additional loss of life, it would seem fair to
me that she said Kaddish when she did.
Raina Steiner <rai...@efn.org> wrote in article <33080D...@efn.org>...
> Aharon Nissan Varady wrote:
>
> > There are other minor inaccuracies: her father's beard would
not likely
> > be trimmed. In yiddish, "father" is pronounced ta-tee (emphasis on the
> > ta), not ta-tay.
> Also, she would not have said Kaddish at the end because Kaddish is only
> said in the presence of a minyan (10 Jewish men). There were several
> other unlikelyhoods.
> Raina
>
o...@moonlight.com
>right. (BTW -- The most famous version of the golem story has to do with
>the great rabbi known as the Maharal of Prague, which is why the show
>chose to portray this community as being from there.)
>
Where can we find out about the golem of Prague story?
rdk...@facstaff.wisc.edu
In article <3308AD...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>, Abe Kraus
<ab...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Actually though you are right that Williamsburg is dominated by the
>Satmar Chassidim, there are a number of Chassidic sects that originated
>or settled near Prague. Two of my grandparents are from two of those
>sects. There aren't many in Williamsburg (mostly in Borough Park),but
>there are some.
I dug around my shelves last night till I found my copy of
"The Hasidic Community of Williamsburg", a sociological study
published in 1962. There are some comments to the effect that
prior to and during WWII, Williamsburg was settled by "very
religious" Jews from Eastern Europe, including Czechoslovakia.
After WWII, the Satmar Chassidim moved in, and tensions resulted
as the older group, which thought of themselves as the most
(small-o) orthodox in America mingled with an even more orthodox
group (the Satmar Chassidim). Many of the older group moved out of
Williamsburg. There are quotes from two religious-but-non-Satmar
Jews from the area, one male, one female; both complain of
being called goys by their new neighbors because they were not
observant to the standards of the Satmar.
So there would have been non-Satmars in Williamsburg when Weiss moved
there. (Yakub-Jacob/Yitzhak Weiss? I've seen both names used on this
group; I thought it was Jacob, spelled however was appropriate for
someone of Weiss's background). However, if he moved there around
1959, it seems late for a non-Satmar to go there from Israel.
Some of the data about Weiss's move from Israel to the US suggest
a much earlier date, however; if he was in Israel and facing legal
trouble with the British over his Irgun activities, then he left
Israel no later than 1946 and is plausibly a non-Satmar. I haven't
gone back to my tape to try and figure out exactly what Scully said,
so I'm not clear on the relationship of the Irgun, the British, Israel
and his move to America. It's possible, for example, that what Scully
said could be interpreted as (1) per the British, he was in the Irgun,
and (2) he left Israel in 1959, without the implication that he left
Israel to escape prosecution by the British. Personally, I think
Scully's date was wrong; why would he leave Israel in 1959 for America?
The idea that he spent a brief time in Israel is much more plausible
than the idea that he spent more than a decade there and suddenly
decided to move again.
BuDDha
, o...@moonlight.com wrote:
>
>
>Where can we find out about the golem of Prague story?
There is a website - that discusses the story of how the golem
legend came about. I believe there is a website with schoolchildrens
art representing the various passages of the origin of the golem.
Try browsing - using 'golem' as your key search word. Beware though
golem is also a 'techie' term - so you'll find a lot of hits in
relation to that particular reference.
Bill Bickel
This will be obvious to most, but searching for GOLEM and POLAND, or
GOLEM and JEWISH would probably make this a non-problem.
Bill Bickel
--
Please visit the "Comics I Don't Understand" Page, at
http://www.concentric.net/~Bbickel/bj.html
Reiney Adams
Just to let you know I appreciate all the info you (and others) have
brought to the discussion on the Golem and other ancient Jewish rituals.
I comment elsewhere that so much of what we take for granted as being
"invented" for entertainment is, in fact, lifted from Jewish traditions
and rites.....the Vulcan hand gesture, an episode of BBC's "Adventures
of Robin Hood" uses the Golem ritual to depict a Celtic rite.....etc.
Thanksamundo! It's been a learning experience for all of us, I'm sure.
Reiney