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Heidi The Shipper

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I saw the incredible episode One Breath several years ago and I
have seen it over ten times. It still makes me fall in love with it
over and over again. It愀 better than Redux 2, better than Memento
Mori........ There was something little missing from them, though I
loved them both. But still One Breath has got something that is
unique and touching. That愀 why I惴 asking: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
WHO HAVE BEEN DEEPLY TOUCHED BY THIS EPISODE? I惴 thinking of
putting up a some kind of webgroup for the lovers of this episode
and I惴 especially looking for someone who could make a homepage
for the group. If you are interested in putting uop soime kind of
"One Breath Lovers" or anything, please E-mail me in ASAP. Waiting
for your E-mails,

Heidi

Rick

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Heidi,

It's my favorite episode also...

Rick

Heidi The Shipper <heidi....@pp2.inet.fi> wrote in article
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Eltanin

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On 8 Apr 1998, Heidi The Shipper wrote:

>I saw the incredible episode One Breath several years ago and I
>have seen it over ten times. It still makes me fall in love with it
>over and over again. It愀 better than Redux 2, better than Memento
>Mori........ There was something little missing from them, though I
>loved them both. But still One Breath has got something that is
>unique and touching. That愀 why I惴 asking: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
>WHO HAVE BEEN DEEPLY TOUCHED BY THIS EPISODE? I惴 thinking of
>putting up a some kind of webgroup for the lovers of this episode
>and I惴 especially looking for someone who could make a homepage
>for the group. If you are interested in putting uop soime kind of
>"One Breath Lovers" or anything, please E-mail me in ASAP. Waiting
>for your E-mails,
>
>Heidi
>

I LOVED this episode! That's the one I couldn't remember the name
of when I posted my list of favorite eps. I don't know if I could
contribute in any way to a webgroup- I just wanted to let you know that
this episode touched me too.

-Lady Eltanin
(aka Theresa)
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RSharma007

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How is One breath better than Memento Mori or ReduxII? Scully had 1 line in OB
and she was in a coma....and on a shipper note, OB would definately rank 3rd in
the tactile touches and expressions of affection category...after all how can a
hand holding beat out hugs, diary entries and in Redux II, little kisses?

Comments? how would the rest of you all rank these 3 eps?

Ruby:)

CarriKendl

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>IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
>WHO HAVE BEEN DEEPLY TOUCHED BY THIS EPISODE? I´m thinking of

>putting up a some kind of webgroup for the lovers of this episode
>and I´m especially looking for someone who could make a homepage

>for the group. If you are interested in putting uop soime kind of
>"One Breath Lovers"

I saw this episode for the first time four days after my father had triple
bypass surgery following a massive heart attack which should have killed him.
I've seen it at least eight more times. I still cry like a baby every time.
What a beautiful episode. Certainly worthy of its own page.

CarriK

Dave Fox

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I'd rank it MM, OB and RII in terms of M&S shippiness. Since when
does the word count make a difference? The most moving 'shipper line
in OB is virtually inaudible - the 'thanks' that Scully tells Mulder
after he returns the necklace.

-----
Dave Fox

"If those are my last words, I can do better."

Tiffany D McClain

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On 8 Apr 1998, Heidi The Shipper wrote:

> I saw the incredible episode One Breath several years ago and I
> have seen it over ten times.

Only ten times?

Tiffany M.

"No person is your friend who demands your silence, or denies your right
to grow."


Dave Fox

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Hope your father is doing well, Carri. I lost my father this past
fall, and ever since I haven't made it through Scully's father's scene
without tears. Last time I saw it, I started losing it when that
atmospheric music started, before he even walked into the scene. That
soliloquy is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. I can
recite it word for word.

MLopez5385

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One Breath is one of my favorites, maybe because it is the first time that we
really know how much Mulder loves Scully. I will always remember Mulder
standing at that door crying. I can actually believe he was also praying... (by
the way he open his hands and arms). And the detail of giving her the chain
with the crucifix... that was really sweet. But my *****FAVORITE***
one is REDUX II.

Maribel

laura capozzola

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RSharma007 wrote:
>
> How is One breath better than Memento Mori or ReduxII?

All of these episodes were great.

I liked Redux II best because of the excitement in the episode. It had
it's touching moments but it had so much other good tense moments, too.
It had a lot crammed into it: The Blevins thing, the CSM shooting
ordered by the Consortium, the CSM job offer to Mulder, the Scully
family stuff, the tense moments between Bill Scully and Mulder, the new
assassin, Samantha, the potential for Skinner to be the mole and all of
those touching Mulder/Scully scenes...you couldn't blink, you know, it
was like being on a roller coaster ride.

With Memento Mori I started crying before the opening credits rolled and
I kept crying on and off through the whole episode. Boy, did I look
awful the next day. I was just not prepared for all of that emotional
stuff with the journal. And, the scenes with the two sick women were
very emotionally intense. But the Kurt/Lonegunmen stuff was just okay.

One Breath was real good storytelling. I think it was Morgan & Wong's
best effort, ever with the show. The part with One Breath that got to
me was when Mulder returns to his ransacked apartment. But overall it
was a very well crafted story and the perfect ending to the Duane Barry,
Ascension arc.

But if I have to chose from the 3, it's Redux II.

Laura
#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#
"The truth, the truth.....there is no truth.
These men just make it up as they go along."

- Alex Krycek (Tunguska) -
#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#

zane

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i like all of the episodes but one breath and memento mori are both equal to
me. i really liked the scene of scully in the boat and nurse owens on shore,
but for expression i would have to pick R2 over one breath. the diary entry
and mulder kissing scully on the head. it was a good episode. (i guess i
am a shipper), but redux 2 was just a all around good episode. even though
cancer man got killed (i love cancer man, he is my favorite character). but
i think that out of those, memento mori would be my favorite. RULE OF THUMB:
IF AN X-FILES EPISODE BEGINS IN SOME SORT OF POETIC VERSE, IT WILL BE GOOD.

Zane Jones
zjo...@delnet.net

Sean Carroll

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Heidi The Shipper wrote:
>
> I saw the incredible episode One Breath several years ago and I
> have seen it over ten times. It still makes me fall in love with it
> over and over again. It愀 better than Redux 2, better than Memento
> Mori........ There was something little missing from them, though I
> loved them both. But still One Breath has got something that is
> unique and touching. That愀 why I惴 asking: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
> WHO HAVE BEEN DEEPLY TOUCHED BY THIS EPISODE? I惴 thinking of

> putting up a some kind of webgroup for the lovers of this episode
> and I惴 especially looking for someone who could make a homepage

> for the group. If you are interested in putting uop soime kind of
> "One Breath Lovers" or anything, please E-mail me in ASAP. Waiting
> for your E-mails,
>
> Heidi

Well, I really love "One Breath" too. It's my 2nd favorite ep of all
time, after "Paper Clip". However, judging by your name, I assume you
enjoy some kind of shipper element in this ep. I am one of the most
ardent anti-shippers you'll ever meet, so that would be where we differ
:)
I think "OB" was just ever-so-slightly a touch better than "R2" and
"MM".
In fact, those would probably be my top 4 favorites -- "PC", "OB", "R2",
and "MM".

--Sean
OBSSE
SundaeGirls Fanclub

Sean Carroll

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Uh, I'm gonna have to comment here that the shippy stuff is not what
matters. I admit being somewhat prejudiced on this point as an
anti-shipper, but I really *do* like the intimate, platonic, loving
moments between Dana and Mulder. I just think the whole ep's content and
quality matters more. By this criterion, I rank them "OB", then "R2",
then "MM". All 3 of them are among my very favorite eps. The only one I
like better is "Paper Clip".

> -----
> Dave Fox
>
> "If those are my last words, I can do better."

--Sean
OBSSE
SundaeGirls Fanclub

Sean Carroll

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Tiffany D McClain wrote:

>
> On 8 Apr 1998, Heidi The Shipper wrote:
>
> > I saw the incredible episode One Breath several years ago and I
> > have seen it over ten times.
>
> Only ten times?
>

That's right; only 10?!
I've watched many eps, such as "OB" or "Anasazi"/"TBW"/"Paper Clip",
probably 75 to 150 times each (and I think that's an underestimate) in
the just under a year and a half I've been collecting eps on tape. You
need to be more focused! :)

> Tiffany M.
>
> "No person is your friend who demands your silence, or denies your right
> to grow."

--Sean
OBSSE
SundaeGirls Fanclub

Sean Carroll

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Silver Fox wrote:
>
> Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> wrote in article
> <352C3706...@phoenixat.com>...

> > I think "OB" was just ever-so-slightly a touch better than "R2" and
> > "MM".
> > In fact, those would probably be my top 4 favorites -- "PC", "OB", "R2",
> > and "MM".
> >
> > --Sean
> > OBSSE
> > SundaeGirls Fanclub
> >
>
> Acronym fun!!
>

Yep. I finally figured out how to abbreviate all the episode titles! :)
For the acronym-impaired, I meant "Paper Clip", "One Breath", "Redux 2",
and "Memento Mori" :)

> ~SF

--Sean
OBSSE
SundaeGirls Fanclub

aye...@isle.net

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Silver Fox wrote:
>
> Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com> wrote in article
> <352C3706...@phoenixat.com>...
> > I think "OB" was just ever-so-slightly a touch better than "R2" and
> > "MM".
> > In fact, those would probably be my top 4 favorites -- "PC", "OB",
> "R2",
> > and "MM".
> >
> > --Sean
> > OBSSE
> > SundaeGirls Fanclub
> >
>
> Acronym fun!!
>
> ~SF


Hmmm, "R2" umm, D2?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Actually I could have, but I was bored.

--
Cheers,
Polly
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Tiffany D McClain

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Memento Mori
Redux II
One Breath

"No person is your friend who demands your silence, or denies your right
to grow."

-Alice Walker

On 8 Apr 1998, RSharma007 wrote:

> Date: 8 Apr 1998 21:00:45 GMT
> From: RSharma007 <rshar...@aol.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.tv.x-files
> Subject: Re: IF YOU LOVED ONE BREATH, READ THIS!

FRANK STEINBERG

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Dave Fox wrote:
>
> On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:57:25 -0700, Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com>
> wrote:

>
> >Dave Fox wrote:
> >> I'd rank it MM, OB and RII in terms of M&S shippiness. Since when
> >> does the word count make a difference? The most moving 'shipper line
> >> in OB is virtually inaudible - the 'thanks' that Scully tells Mulder
> >> after he returns the necklace.
>
> >
> >Uh, I'm gonna have to comment here that the shippy stuff is not what
> >matters. I admit being somewhat prejudiced on this point as an
> >anti-shipper, but I really *do* like the intimate, platonic, loving
> >moments between Dana and Mulder. I just think the whole ep's content and
> >quality matters more. By this criterion, I rank them "OB", then "R2",
> >then "MM". All 3 of them are among my very favorite eps. The only one I
> >like better is "Paper Clip".
>
> I don't consider myself a 'shipper, but I can still rank eps on a
> 'shippiness basis - which is what the above list was about.
>
> Overall, I'd say OB is my favorite. OB was so beautifully produced,
> with lots of lasting images - the boat on the lake, the tombstone, the
> awakening scene, Scully's father, etc. I think I remember the images
> more so than the plot. R2 was much more plot-driven with so many
> things going on. Definitely in the top 5, though.
>
> -----
> Dave Fox
>
> "If those are my last words, I can do better Well i am a shipper, but that aside I would have to say for me OB was so touching. The scene when Mulder comes back to his ransacked apartment and the total helplessness he feels, my heart just broke for him. RD2 was my second fav.(for the shippy content alone) and last but not least MM it was a beautiful ep. That hug in hallway, the way they smile at each other, well I thought I died and went to heaven. Definitely my top 3 eps. Marlene S

Catherine J. Blatz

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"One Breath" has been my favorite since I saw it during the summer of
'95, when Fox saw fit to bless me by repeating it, after I had missed it
during its first run on Sky when I was living in Ireland.

I enjoyed "Redux II" for the shippy aspects and the emotional scenes. I
was less enthralled with the wrap-up of "Mulder Is Dead Part Deux:
Mulder Dies Harder" and the, I thought, disappointingly quick-fix
resolution to the Scully's cancer storyline (emotional as it was). I
also found "Redux I" somewhat dull and thought the seams (predominantly,
neither lead actor being available for much actual filming) showed
through quite a lot. I liked "Redux II," loved it even, but there were
definite flaws.

I loved "Memento Mori" and it remains one of my favorites. I loved the
teaser, with the long shot of the white tunnel (death peeking out at
life, or sneaking up on Scully?). I loved Mulder's refusal to accept
what Scully said and his fidgeting and manic hopping around for most of
the episode, as well as DD's perfect delivery of "I will be right
there." I loved the frantic way Scully grabbed for Penny's hand during
her nightmare. I thought the acting of GA and DD was superb all the way
through, Scully's fear and denial was very realistic, and the scene in
the hallway was exquisite and tender. But I also thought the episode had
problems. I found the big action shooting scene a little gratuitous and
distracting. I thought it was unrealistic when Scully decided at the end
to ditch the hospital thing and go back to work because her doctor
turned out to be evil (and for the sole purpose of "wrapping it all up,"
after a very moving and earth-shaking episode, so M & S could neatly get
back to "normal" the next week). And the mishandling of the rest of the
cancer arc has, unfortunately, tainted this wonderful episode for me.

Maybe it's because the mytharc was simpler back then; maybe it's
because, before all the other traumas that were to befall them (mostly
her) became somewhat numbing, the abduction of Scully was so riveting.
But "One Breath" touched me and moved me in a way no other television
ever has. It confirmed me as a fan for life, convinced me that Mulder
and Scully were soulmates, and made me worship Morgan and Wong (until
the "TFWID" incident ;) ). Everything about it - every shot, every line
of dialogue, every movement of the actors - spoke to me. I've analyzed
it to death for my own joy (and believe me, you guys would have heard
about it had I known about this place back then), and I won't get too
deeply into it here, but I will offer a brief (for me :) ) explanation
of why I am so fond of this episode, which I feel holds up under
analysis like any great work of literature.

The core of the episode is what happens from the moment Mulder meets X
in the hallway to the moment he gets the phone call from the hospital.
This is where the central conflict plays out. We have, at this point in
the series, watched for over a year as Mulder searches for the truth,
risks his life for it, travels the world chasing it. In the last couple
of episodes, we have seen Mulder crazy with grief and fury: nearly
killing Duane Barry in his rage over Scully's abduction, wearing
Scully's cross, telling a police officer dully that "I don't sleep
anymore" in "3." In "One Breath," the truth is literally handed to him -
not on a silver platter, but in an airplane ticket. He is told that at
8:17 p.m. the people responsible for Scully's abduction will be at his
apartment, believing that he's out of town. All he has to do is wait for
them. He has his confrontation. He has his revenge. It's going to be
delivered to his door at 8:17. All he has to do is be there when it
comes.

Only, Melissa shows up. Dana is dying; doesn't he want to be with her?
He is dismissive, curt. "I expect more from you. Dana expects more,"
Melissa snaps. Mulder retreats into the darkness with his gun. We don't
see the moment in which he changes his mind. But sometime in the next
few minutes, he does. Mulder, the man whose life is consumed by a
desperate quest, abandons that quest at the precise moment that it could
finally come to fruition. He abandons it to sit at the bedside of his
dying best friend - not because it *will* save her life, but on the slim
chance that it might make a difference. He sits with her, holds her
hand, tells her he is with her. Mulder gives up his long-awaited,
custom-tailored revenge to be with Dana, just in case she needs him.

And the next morning, when he finally leaves her, nothing has changed.
He returns to his apartment. The mysterious men have been and gone.
They've ransacked the place. He missed them. He threw away his
opportunity. Mulder looks around. He sinks to the floor and cries
softly, holding his empty hands out in front of him. It is the lowest
low point in the series to date, and it is almost completely silent.
Scully will die. Samantha will never be found. His apartment is
destroyed. His enemies were in his grasp, but he let them go. Mulder is
a failure. His life is over. We fade to black.

In the background of that scene we can hear the soft chirping of birds.
Mulder does not hear them, nor does he notice the morning light that
seeps in the windows. I feel that this is a prelude to the next scene, a
harbinger that Mulder can't pick up on - morning is here, the darkness
is over, but he doesn't know it yet. We open again (after a moment of
blackness during which I ALMOST hit pause, thinking it was a commercial
- good thing I didn't) on a view of a forest. From the POV of Scully,
lying in the bed. Birds chirping, louder this time. Sunlight and leaves
making flickering shadows on Scully's legs. Hospital sounds and
furnishings begin to appear. Last to go are the dancing leaf shadows,
the sunlight replaced by fluorescent hospital light. Scully is back in
the world. There is a sense of regret - it's much plainer, not as
beautiful. But it's real, and there are people waiting to see her. It's
not her time to leave them. Not yet.

In his apartment, Mulder gets a phone call. He almost doesn't pick up.
But he is still connected to the world, by the most fragile of threads.
He answers. And smiles. He goes to the hospital. Scully is there, pink
and alive (no coincidence, I think, that she went from a chilly blue
hospital gown to a rosy pink one) and smiling. "I had the strength of
*your* beliefs," she says. She heard him after all. His being with her
made a difference.

Some other things I loved about this episode:

1. The very first frame. Sheila Larken's sweet voice begins "Once...when
she was a little girl..." as we see a shot of clouds high above the
earth. In my mind, the episode starts off from Dana's point of view - we
don't know if she is dead, or merely "up there" somewhere (OK, we do,
because we know GA is coming back, but for the purposes of the story we
don't), but it is as if she is listening; her mother relates the tale of
Dana and the snake as if reading a bedtime story. I feel that this ties
in nicely with Dana in the boat, watching the others as they speak to
each other, and says in a beautiful metaphorical way that Dana is still
with them. The rest of the teaser is just as good: the rosy yet poignant
childhood memory of Dana shooting a snake and then crying over it, then
the return to the somber present, with Margaret and Mulder waiting for
Dana's gravestone.

2. Mulder in the hospital. DD plays it perfectly. Walking, then running
down the hall. At first interrogating, then shouting at the doctors and
anyone who will listen while Scully lies silently on the bed. Quiet
again, numb with shock, as the doctor explains that Dana's living will
requests that life support be terminated. Remembering with disbelief
that he witnessed the will himself.

3. Scully in the boat. I found this particularly chilling and well done.
Mulder and Melissa bicker over whether Scully can hear them or not.
Meanwhile, in Scully's mind, they stand on the shore looking at her, and
she sits in the boat, staring right back at them. For all Mulder's
denial, even all Melissa's talk of negative energy, the truth is crystal
clear from her point of view: of *course* Dana can hear them. She's
looking right *at* them, but they don't see her. She can't call them;
she can't move to get their attention; she can't even change her facial
expression. GA's perfectly blank stare, with her unwavering gaze at the
people on the shore - and their own inability to look back at her - the
only sign that all is not right, affected me deeply - far more so than
hours of crying and angsty mugging would have done.

4. DD's voice crack on "Why her?" when he interrogates CSM. He's angry
Action!Mulder, all right, but unlike in "Emily," for example, where he
seemed mainly thuggish, it's clear that his emotions are riiiight under
the surface.

5. Sheila Larken's sharp "Fox," as he turns away during their discussion
about pulling the plug. I loved that word when I first saw the ep, and
was delighted to read later that SL had felt the same way. It was a
"mother" voice, and Mulder's (and DD's) response was very natural. (I
was also astonished when I found out that Sheila Larken was Bob
Goodwin's wife. I'd assumed they'd conducted a massive casting operation
to find such a wonderful Mrs. Scully. Couldn't believe she'd been around
all along.)

6. Dana's father's monologue. Not much to say about it that hasn't
already been said; it was extremely touching.

7. Nurse Owens. Well, mostly. I agree that this was a bit unnecessary in
parts. But I was especially moved, for some reason, by how she called
Dana "honey" and "sweetheart." Maybe because, in this show, there is no
coddling, no lovey-dovey nicknames. Such a thing is very noticeable, and
served a purpose - Nurse Owens was there to help Dana back into the
world. She existed solely to be nurturing and loving; Dana (who'd
probably kick Mulder if he called her "honey") needed the nurturing and
the extra affection. (I was really glad she didn't give her cross away
at the end as she intended, though.)

8. Most of all, I think, the penultimate scene, when Mulder goes to
visit Scully after she awakens. His quiet joy is wonderful; her "I had
the strength of *your* beliefs" thrilling. I think my favorite moment in
this scene, though, was when he hands her her cross. "I was holding this
for you," he says. She looks at him and moves her lips briefly, hardly
at all. Looking back at her, he opens his mouth briefly as well. It's
obvious they're communicating. It's clear what they are saying. This
illustrates again the magical unspoken communication between them.

"One Breath" proved to me the bond between Mulder and Scully. It
presented them as opposites - dark and light, shouting and silent,
skeptical (Mulder's unwillingness to believe that Scully can hear him)
and calmly faithful (Scully's unwavering gaze at Mulder and Melissa) -
who are at the same time linked. It showed the power of love to heal,
and that love is more important than the most important thing on earth.
It showed that Mulder still had his soul - that in spite of his crazed
*need* for revenge, he still cared more about Scully. It showed that,
apart, Mulder and Scully cannot survive, but together they are
invincible.

I have loved many XF episodes since then. I don't feel that the series
has "gone downhill" or that it's no good anymore, though it has changed
and become more complex. I haven't ever seen an episode that can top
"One Breath" for me and I don't ever expect to.

Anyway, it's one fantastic episode. Definitely merits its own web page.
:) Too bad I don't have the means or the knowledge to give it one.

Cathy
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Silver Fox

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CarriKendl

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>Hope your father is doing well, Carri. I lost my father this past
>fall, and ever since I haven't made it through Scully's father's scene>without
tears.That soliloquy is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. I

can recite it word for word.

My father is doing very well, thank you Dave. Docs give him at least ten
years, and I plan to make the most of them. I am taking all my 2nd season eps
to him for easter. He hasn't seen them yet. I love him so much. Thank you
for sharing your feelings about your dad. CarriK

Dave Fox

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On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:57:25 -0700, Sean Carroll <se...@phoenixat.com>
wrote:

>Dave Fox wrote:
>> I'd rank it MM, OB and RII in terms of M&S shippiness. Since when
>> does the word count make a difference? The most moving 'shipper line
>> in OB is virtually inaudible - the 'thanks' that Scully tells Mulder
>> after he returns the necklace.

>
>Uh, I'm gonna have to comment here that the shippy stuff is not what
>matters. I admit being somewhat prejudiced on this point as an
>anti-shipper, but I really *do* like the intimate, platonic, loving
>moments between Dana and Mulder. I just think the whole ep's content and
>quality matters more. By this criterion, I rank them "OB", then "R2",
>then "MM". All 3 of them are among my very favorite eps. The only one I
>like better is "Paper Clip".

I don't consider myself a 'shipper, but I can still rank eps on a
'shippiness basis - which is what the above list was about.

Overall, I'd say OB is my favorite. OB was so beautifully produced,
with lots of lasting images - the boat on the lake, the tombstone, the
awakening scene, Scully's father, etc. I think I remember the images
more so than the plot. R2 was much more plot-driven with so many
things going on. Definitely in the top 5, though.

-----
Dave Fox

"If those are my last words, I can do better."

Autumn T

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In article <199804082100...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
rshar...@aol.com (RSharma007) writes:

>How is One breath better than Memento Mori or ReduxII? Scully had 1 line in
>OB
>and she was in a coma.

She had more than one line. Still no matter how many lines she had "One Breath"
was all about Scully and her impact on people. Captain Scully's speech remains
one of the most beautiful moments I've ever seen on film.

Autumn Tysko
Sister of OBSSE / "Mulder, they're worms!"
My episode reviews available at (email me for mailing list info):
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1411/main_rev.html

MLopez5385

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Well, I believe Catherine just said everything about One Breath,
good work Cathy. Just reading your lines make me go running to
my video deck and pickup the tape.. I'll probably watch the
eps, tonight!!

QFFI Mag1

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Me too. Don't have much time, since I have to get to work, but that was a
CLASSIC!


Magician ("longs to see")

nYcHen

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Dear Heidi-
I love one breathe too....
i'll be happy to volunteer to make the site..
what would you have on the site?
nancy
dp - http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6940/


Heidi The Shipper wrote:

> I saw the incredible episode One Breath several years ago and I

> have seen it over ten times. It still makes me fall in love with it

> over and over again. It´s better than Redux 2, better than Memento


> Mori........ There was something little missing from them, though I
> loved them both. But still One Breath has got something that is

> unique and touching. That´s why I´m asking: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
> WHO HAVE BEEN DEEPLY TOUCHED BY THIS EPISODE? I´m thinking of


> putting up a some kind of webgroup for the lovers of this episode

> and I´m especially looking for someone who could make a homepage

Sean Carroll

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TStar78 wrote:
> so i'm gonna have to ask...has anyone else on the ng cried through an x-files
> ep? and if so, which ones?

Well, I don't know if I've ever really cried, but I always get
teary-eyed at the end of Paper Clip when Melissa dies, and also in
Kitsunegari when it looks like Dana shoots herself (I knew it wasn't
real the 1st time, but it still upsets me a little whenever I see it.) I
also get pretty close in One Breath when Mulder breaks down and starts
crying, and at the end of Beyond the Sea when Dana says "He was my
father". Those are all the ones I can think of that really affect me
that way.

--Sean
OBSSE
SundaeGirls Fanclub

TStar78

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>From: laura capozzola <laur...@erols.com>
>Date: Wed, Apr 8, 1998 19:31 EDT
>Message-id: <352C08...@erols.com>

>
>RSharma007 wrote:
>>
>> How is One breath better than Memento Mori or ReduxII?
>
>All of these episodes were great.
>
>I liked Redux II best because of the excitement in the episode. It had
>it's touching moments but it had so much other good tense moments, too.
>It had a lot crammed into it: The Blevins thing, the CSM shooting
>ordered by the Consortium, the CSM job offer to Mulder, the Scully
>family stuff, the tense moments between Bill Scully and Mulder, the new
>assassin, Samantha, the potential for Skinner to be the mole and all of
>those touching Mulder/Scully scenes...you couldn't blink, you know, it
>was like being on a roller coaster ride.

definitely thought this was an awesome ep for that. I mean, it had the
emotional stuff but also the exciting heart-stopping stuff, like did CSM get
killed, and would Mulder accept his offer?

>
>With Memento Mori I started crying before the opening credits rolled and
>I kept crying on and off through the whole episode. Boy, did I look
>awful the next day. I was just not prepared for all of that emotional
>stuff with the journal. And, the scenes with the two sick women were
>very emotionally intense. But the Kurt/Lonegunmen stuff was just okay.

I'd just have to say that this was my fave in terms of the emotional ones. Oh
yeah, Laura, I too started sobbing all through this. Infact, my friends decided
to give me time to myself after this ep aired because i was crying so hard. I
guess that's why i liked it so much, i never felt as emotionally connected to
the characters as i did through this ep.

>
>One Breath was real good storytelling. I think it was Morgan & Wong's
>best effort, ever with the show. The part with One Breath that got to
>me was when Mulder returns to his ransacked apartment. But overall it
>was a very well crafted story and the perfect ending to the Duane Barry,
>Ascension arc.

I loved this ep. Infact, I have to watch it again. when this was first going
on, i think i was too fascinated as to what was gonna happen that i didn't even
let it affect me emotionally. i just wanted to know if scully was gonna live,
and actually i was still a relative newbie to the show, and therefore, hadn't
become as connected with the actors. i know if i watch it again now, i'll bawl
my eyes out. actually the first x-files ep i did cry at was Irresistible. not
quite sure why but just when Scully hugs Mulder and finally allows him to
comfort her, i think it got to me how scared they both were and what i would do
if i was in a situation like that where someone i loved was in danger like
that---also i think it had to do with the fact that it was plausible danger.
stuff we hear about everyday, not aliens and vampires etc.

so i'm gonna have to ask...has anyone else on the ng cried through an x-files
ep? and if so, which ones?

-T*


>
>But if I have to chose from the 3, it's Redux II.
>
>Laura
>#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#
>"The truth, the truth.....there is no truth.
> These men just make it up as they go along."
>
> - Alex Krycek (Tunguska) -
>#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#***#

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RSharma007

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> i know if i watch it again now, i'll bawl
>my eyes out. actually the first x-files ep i did cry at was Irresistible.

The first ep I cried at was "Conduit" at the end when Mulder is in the church
and that sad Mark Snow music comes on and Mulder is bawling...sniff....made me
cry buckets!!

Then of course "Beyond the sea" made me cry...Just the way GA's eyes kinda get
watery and she looks like she's gonna bawl at the beginning and then at the
end...made me cry! :(

For some strange reason, the end of Dod Kalm made me cry...just that speech
about the end of the world and again the Snow music..brought a tear to my
eye...sniff...

I like this thread...what eps made you cry?!

Ruby:)

mj

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In article <35305033...@phoenixat.com>, Sean Carroll
<se...@phoenixat.com> wrote:

> TStar78 wrote:
> > so i'm gonna have to ask...has anyone else on the ng cried through an
x-files
> > ep? and if so, which ones?
>

> Well, I don't know if I've ever really cried, but I always get
> teary-eyed at the end of Paper Clip when Melissa dies, and also in
> Kitsunegari when it looks like Dana shoots herself (I knew it wasn't
> real the 1st time, but it still upsets me a little whenever I see it.) I
> also get pretty close in One Breath when Mulder breaks down and starts
> crying, and at the end of Beyond the Sea when Dana says "He was my
> father". Those are all the ones I can think of that really affect me
> that way.

I bawled through TFWID. Call me a wuss, but the whole idea of not being
able to get to the one you're destined for just kills me. Of course, I
don't think it quite fit into the whole XF line, but just as a simple
*idea,* wandering and separated souls make me sniffle even now.

--
Melissa
******
********HoneySundae**********
Take the 86 bus to the Cloisters
You'll find me inside with the monks


Coleen Sullivan-Baier

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In <199804120313...@ladder01.news.aol.com> tst...@aol.com
(TStar78) writes:
>

>so i'm gonna have to ask...has anyone else on the ng cried through an
>x-files ep? and if so, which ones?

"Schizogeny", and they were tears of horror.

XXXXXXXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXXXXXX

****WUDEC****
Here's lookin' at YOU, Peep...
Chicago eXpo '98


Dave Fox

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Well, I wouldn't call it *crying*, but I do get some, uh, excessive
eye watering due to allergies and contact lens irritation once in a
while ...

On 12 Apr 1998 13:59:55 GMT, rshar...@aol.com (RSharma007) wrote:

>For some strange reason, the end of Dod Kalm made me cry...just that speech
>about the end of the world and again the Snow music..brought a tear to my
>eye...sniff...

That got to me as well and I also don't really know why. It was a
generally lousy ep and I was just impatiently waiting to see what kind
of miracle would save them, and all of a sudden my eyes were misting
over.

>I like this thread...what eps made you cry?!

I've always been an easy target for sad music, and Mark Snow seems to
have my number. The scene at Melissa's grave at the end of Apocrypha
had that simple little piano melody and I found it very moving. And
even if the mood shifted, I think it's also my favorite episode ending
- the line about "burying the dead alive" and the fade to Krycek in
the silo was great.

Carterconn

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>tst...@aol.com (TStar78)

>has anyone else on the ng cried through an x-files
>ep? and if so, which ones?

I cried when CSM was shot.

Stacey O (who's j/k ;)

Tom Dexter

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Call me a sensitive guy but I always get choked up at the end of PMP.

Tom

John Murphy

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Carterconn wrote:
>
> >tst...@aol.com (TStar78)
>
> >has anyone else on the ng cried through an x-files
> >ep? and if so, which ones?
>
OK, everyone is going to think I'm very odd now, but I nominate Jose
Chungs From Outer Space. Not the whole episode, because I think this was
the funniest episode ever, but I thought the end was very moving. When
Jose Chung says, in that very sad voice, "we are all alone", and then
the incidental music changes into the main theme - oooh, sent shivers
down my back I can tell you.
Incidentally, Jose Chung featured in the best Millellium ever as well (I
know I've spelt it wrong) - give him his own series Chris Carter!

Anastasia

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John Murphy wrote in message <353130...@virgin.net>...


>Incidentally, Jose Chung featured in the best Millellium ever as well (I
>know I've spelt it wrong) - give him his own series Chris Carter!

How can CC do that? JC's already dead!

Anastasia

J.M. Grymes

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TStar78 wrote:
>
>
> so i'm gonna have to ask...has anyone else on the ng cried through an x-files

> ep? and if so, which ones?

well, i've been known to cry at commercials, so... for me it is more
like which ones do you cry at *even after* you watch them again?

One Breath
TFWID
can't think if the name of it - the one with the stigmatas and Scully
saves the little boy - i cry at the end when Scully is in the
confessionial...
Momento Mori
Christmas Carol
Emily

I didn't tape the Reduxes for some stupid reason, but my guess is they
would be on this list also

jmg

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