Role Reversal
laura capozzola
turned out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett
part?
Could you see them switching parts (with some modifications, of
course) in any of the other Season 8 stand-alones?
If this was season 7 or 6, could any of the Season 8 stand-alone eps,
as written, have been done with Mulder (playing either the Doggett or
Scully part)?
Laura
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True__blue
"laura capozzola" <laur...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> How do you think the episodes Roadrunners and Via Negativa would have
> turned out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett
> part?
> Could you see them switching parts (with some modifications, of
> course) in any of the other Season 8 stand-alones?
ROADRUNNERS: Supposing for a second we can get past the reason for Doggett
being out in the middle of the Utah desert without Scully for a valid
reason, and Doggett did fall into the clutches of the Jebus!Slug cult, I
think he might have been a little more suceptible to the slug. Not
physically, but IN MY OPINION, he would have not been as suspicious of the
cult or as quick to realise what the cult was going to do to him as Scully
was. And, again, IN MY OPINION, that resistance was what enabled Scully to
resist it as long as she did, until Doggett showed up and did the
slug-ectomy. I think Doggett might have succumbed to the slug quicker, like
the hitchhiker. Keep in mind now, I've only seen it the one time, since my
VCR crapped out during this episode.
VIA NEGATIVA: I think Doggett was seriously freaked by the fact that this
guy was able to get into his dreams. He has steadfastly refused to go the
paranormal route so far this season, even when confronted by substanstial
evidence (the ABH in Within/Without, being attacked by a manbat in Patience,
the aforementioned Jebus!slug in Roadrunners, and the ghost boy in
Invocation. Now, he cannot escape it, because it is in him, in his dreams.
He has a hard time dealing with it throughout the episode. While I think
Scully would have had a difficult time with this, I think she would have
been more willing to realise what was going on and been able to deal with it
better than Doggett did. She's gone through it herself, (Beyond the Sea,
Fresh Bones, Wetwired, Field Trip) and seen other people go through it
(Mulder in Pusher and Kitsunegari, Field Trip). I also think that at her
core, Scully is one of the stronger characters on the show, and I could
totally see her facing this Tipet guy down in her dream, rather than
fighting her own darkness, like Doggett did.
> If this was season 7 or 6, could any of the Season 8 stand-alone eps,
> as written, have been done with Mulder (playing either the Doggett or
> Scully part)?
>
> Laura
Patience: Mulder taking the Doggett part, would have probably posed the
theory that Scully submitted. If the deputy had dissed Scully, Mulder would
have offered Scully the chance to dress down the deputy herself, and then if
she had not, he would have probably taken the deputy aside, not in Scully's
presence, and explained the facts of life to him.
Roadrunners: Mulder taking the Doggett part, would have been hurt/felt
betrayed by Scully running off without him. He probably wouldn't have taken
as long to get to Utah as Doggett did.
Mulder in the Scully part, I can pretty much see the episode happening in
much the same way, even down to the giving the gun to the bad guy.
Invocation: I can't see Mulder treating the little boy the way Doggett did.
He empathizes so much with the victim, I just can't see him being that
driven to tease the little boy in that way.
Sorry I didn't get more detailed, but I've been sick and it IS 12:47 am.
--
TrueBlueStef
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Alan Hurshman
> turned out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett
> part?
Well if Doggett had got the Slug there would not
have been a single word said about rape.
--
Alan Hurshman
Halifax, Nova Scotia
FEB, CCC, GABAL, #27
Order of the Holy Pup
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laura capozzola
>
> "laura capozzola" <laur...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:3A4C150B...@erols.com...
> > How do you think the episodes Roadrunners and Via Negativa would have
> > turned out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett
> > part?
> > Could you see them switching parts (with some modifications, of
> > course) in any of the other Season 8 stand-alones?
>
> ROADRUNNERS: Supposing for a second we can get past the reason for Doggett
> being out in the middle of the Utah desert without Scully for a valid
> reason, and Doggett did fall into the clutches of the Jebus!Slug cult, I
> think he might have been a little more suceptible to the slug. Not
> physically, but IN MY OPINION, he would have not been as suspicious of the
> cult or as quick to realise what the cult was going to do to him as Scully
> was. And, again, IN MY OPINION, that resistance was what enabled Scully to
> resist it as long as she did, until Doggett showed up and did the
> slug-ectomy. I think Doggett might have succumbed to the slug quicker, like
> the hitchhiker. Keep in mind now, I've only seen it the one time, since my
> VCR crapped out during this episode.
Yeah, but it would have been waaaaay cool to see Scully try to carry
Doggett. Seeing him tied to the bed with his shirt up wouldn't have
been a bad thing, either. Although, I can't see him screaming, "CUT
IT OUT! CUT IT OUT OF ME, NOW! ;-D
> VIA NEGATIVA: I think Doggett was seriously freaked by the fact that this
> guy was able to get into his dreams. He has steadfastly refused to go the
> paranormal route so far this season, even when confronted by substanstial
> evidence (the ABH in Within/Without, being attacked by a manbat in Patience,
> the aforementioned Jebus!slug in Roadrunners, and the ghost boy in
> Invocation. Now, he cannot escape it, because it is in him, in his dreams.
> He has a hard time dealing with it throughout the episode. While I think
> Scully would have had a difficult time with this, I think she would have
> been more willing to realise what was going on and been able to deal with it
> better than Doggett did. She's gone through it herself, (Beyond the Sea,
> Fresh Bones, Wetwired, Field Trip) and seen other people go through it
> (Mulder in Pusher and Kitsunegari, Field Trip). I also think that at her
> core, Scully is one of the stronger characters on the show, and I could
> totally see her facing this Tipet guy down in her dream, rather than
> fighting her own darkness, like Doggett did.
I think GA could have actually done the Doggett nightmare scenes, too,
including the scene with the strobe and the axe. This is one example
of an ep I don't think they could have written for DD to do as Mulder.
> > If this was season 7 or 6, could any of the Season 8 stand-alone eps,
> > as written, have been done with Mulder (playing either the Doggett or
> > Scully part)?
> >
> > Laura
> Patience: Mulder taking the Doggett part, would have probably posed the
> theory that Scully submitted. If the deputy had dissed Scully, Mulder would
> have offered Scully the chance to dress down the deputy herself, and then if
> she had not, he would have probably taken the deputy aside, not in Scully's
> presence, and explained the facts of life to him.
This one would have been tricky but not impossible to see
Mulder/Scully in with just some dialogue changes. The thing that made
this ep unique for me, though, was the Doggett/Scully conversations
(in the office twice, in the car). But with some tinkering this could
have been a Mulder/Scully story with Mulder in the Scully role.
> Roadrunners: Mulder taking the Doggett part, would have been hurt/felt
> betrayed by Scully running off without him. He probably wouldn't have taken
> as long to get to Utah as Doggett did.
> Mulder in the Scully part, I can pretty much see the episode happening in
> much the same way, even down to the giving the gun to the bad guy.
The thing is that Scully wouldn't have initiated a case if Mulder was
around. That's been my whole problem with her in the past. Okay, she
screwed up by doing this herself, and it was almost fatal, but damn,
at least she's trying to be more pro-active. As a beginner in being
the initiator of cases, she's bound to make some mistakes. I'm just
happy she's trying.
>
> Invocation: I can't see Mulder treating the little boy the way Doggett did.
> He empathizes so much with the victim, I just can't see him being that
> driven to tease the little boy in that way.
I don't see that as a pivotal scene. I believe that DD could not do
Invocation (the way it was written) effectively. DD changes the pace
of an MOTW ep. In fact, I'm really looking forward to Amann writing
another Doggett ep paired with the same director. I think it's the
best thing Amann has done so far.
> Sorry I didn't get more detailed, but I've been sick and it IS 12:47 am.
Are you feeling better, now?
laura capozzola
>
> "laura capozzola" <laur...@erols.com> wrote in message
> > How do you think the episodes Roadrunners and Via Negativa would have
> > turned out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett
> > part?
>
> Well if Doggett had got the Slug there would not
> have been a single word said about rape.
I think you're right.
Toto
How do you think the episodes Roadrunners and Via Negativa would have urned
out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett part?
have had a real Kick!Ass Scully role. No, No for
Via Negativa. Only RP could have pulled off the #10 with an
arrow fear factor that was so compelling in that ep. That scene
in Skinner's office was the best piece of acting I've EVER seen
in the X-Files.
Toto
True__blue
> True__blue wrote:
> > Sorry I didn't get more detailed, but I've been sick and it IS 12:47 am.
>
> Are you feeling better, now?
>
> Laura
Yeah, it was one of those 24 hour stomach flu things. Either that, or I ate
something that didn't agree with me. But I'm all better. Now, if it would
just warm up here! But at least we're not getting the snow the way the east
coast is.
Alan Hurshman
> > > Sorry I didn't get more detailed, but I've been sick and it IS 12:47
am.
> > Are you feeling better, now?
ate
> something that didn't agree with me.
Ate something that didn't agree with you? Must have
been one of Tom's posts.
True__blue
"Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> "True__blue" <True_...@email.msn.com> wrote in
> > "laura capozzola" <laur...@erols.com> wrote in message
> > > True__blue wrote:
> > > > Sorry I didn't get more detailed, but I've been sick and it IS 12:47
> am.
> > > Are you feeling better, now?
> > Yeah, it was one of those 24 hour stomach flu things. Either that, or I
> ate
> > something that didn't agree with me.
>
> Ate something that didn't agree with you? Must have
> been one of Tom's posts.
>
> --
> Alan Hurshman
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
Couldn't have been that. I try to stay away from things that are
distasteful and indigestible.
laura capozzola
>
> "laura capozzola" <laur...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:3A4D5178...@erols.com...
> > True__blue wrote:
>
> > > Sorry I didn't get more detailed, but I've been sick and it IS 12:47 am.
> >
> > Are you feeling better, now?
> >
> > Laura
>
> Yeah, it was one of those 24 hour stomach flu things. Either that, or I ate
> something that didn't agree with me. But I'm all better. Now, if it would
> just warm up here! But at least we're not getting the snow the way the east
> coast is.
It totally missed us and we had dire predictions that we'd get big
snowfall in Maryland. Of course, in this area, when the first
snowflake is heading for the ground, they're already closing schools.
;-D
Glad you're feeling better.
laura capozzola
>
> "laura capozzola" wrote in message
> How do you think the episodes Roadrunners and Via Negativa would have urned
> out if Doggett had the Scully part and Scully had the Doggett part?
> Would have loved it if the roles were reversed in Roadrunners, then we would
> have had a real Kick!Ass Scully role.
Yeah, yeah, I think so, too. I wonder if Vince Gilligan ever thought
about it.
No, No for
> Via Negativa. Only RP could have pulled off the #10 with an
> arrow fear factor that was so compelling in that ep. That scene
> in Skinner's office was the best piece of acting I've EVER seen
> in the X-Files.
> Toto
I just read an article where MP says really good thing about doing
scenes with RP and how excited he was when he saw how well it comes
off when he watches the whole ep. That scene in the desert (I call it
the "Do I amuse you?" scene) in Without was really good, too. Maybe
we'll see them do some more scenes together.