Tea Leoni Lashes Out At Rich Hollywood Kids
Alan Hurshman
Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
children there. She says, "David and I have been
talking about returning to New York because we
don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
rich Hollywood kids."
--------------------------------------------
LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
--
Alan Hurshman
Halifax, Nova Scotia
"You don't spit into the wind. You
don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone
Ranger and you don't kill the Lone
Gunmen."
Marlene Steinberg
Alan Hurshman wrote:
> From IMDB:
>
> Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> children there. She says, "David and I have been
> talking about returning to New York because we
> don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
> up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> rich Hollywood kids."
> --------------------------------------------
>
> LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
>
> --
> Alan Hurshman
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
New York is home to both Tea and David. They still have sometime before
their children are ready for school anyway. If you are referring to the
fact that David wanted to move the show back to LA well it was because
his wife was there and so he considered LA his home.
Marlene
Marlene Steinberg
nicotinepatches wrote:
> "Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> >From IMDB:
> >
> >Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> >spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> >who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> >of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> >children there. She says, "David and I have been
> >talking about returning to New York because we
> >don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> >is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
> >up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> >rich Hollywood kids."
> >--------------------------------------------
> >
> >LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
>
> Not just that, but there are spoiled rich kids in New York (and
> everywhere else really) too. I hope they don't stick their kids in a
> private school because that would really be hypocritical.
>
> Cindy
>
> --
> drive-by meanie PineappleSundae FEB
I would bet that they would send their children to the school where
David's mom was a teacher. He went to that school too.
Marlene
LOSMYSTERIOS
>Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at spoiled rich kids in Hollywood.
The sexy star, who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick of Los Angeles,
and doesn't want to raise her children there. She says, "David and I have been
talking about returning to New York because we don't want to raise our children
in L.A. Something
is missing there.
>
Tea is hardly the first actor to utter this kind of sentiment. And while
she may have directed these remarks toward "Spoiled Hollywood Rich
Kids" it is part of a larger perception about SoCal. For those who
have had the pleasure to live in the LA area after having been raised
elsewhere this is a common reaction. There IS something missing
in the Southland. This is not a stereotypical slam at Southern
California or at its residents but a statement of common perception.
And while perception can sometimes be wrong - it isn't in this case.
There is a different value system, different mindset, different idea of
what life should be about. It is more image and money oriented and
less substantial. And no, this doesn't mean every single person in
LA buys into this. But so many do that this has formed the basis for
a stereotype. Whether or not it's better or worse in LA than anywhere
else is left up to personal opinion and generally on which side of a
line between Needles and Yuma one happens to live on.
LosMys
DDuchov42
that tea and David are IN THIS SITUATION hypocrits because when they go to New
York, they arn't going to put their kids in some NYC public school. Heck, that
is practically equivelant to CA public schools. By them stating that "NY has
better schools...rich hollywood kids." Um, sure, most likely, you send your
kids to a rich school and they will be filled with people like that.
It is so ironic that this statement is toward "rich hollywood kids," because
Madeline already is one.....talk about stereotyping. I understand their
intentions and I respect them for it. But, they haven't experienced all of
SoCal and not all of Socal has rich hollywood kids, only the places that they
would send their children.
And, yes, I am a DD fan.
Lauren
kim
> From IMDB:
>
> Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> children there. She says, "David and I have been
> talking about returning to New York because we
> don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
> up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> rich Hollywood kids."
> --------------------------------------------
>
> LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
(1) New York is "normal"? Let me tell you the most normal place either
of them have ever lived - Vancouver. If they want to move to
Bakersfield, CA, or Charlotte, NC, or Ft. Worth Texas, then we'll talk
'normal.'
(2) With their level of (a) wealth (b) fame (c) security needed
they'd live a 'normal' life in NY? Hell no. They'd have chauffers,
security, doormen, nannies, private schools and Ralph Lauren out the
yingyang, and don't tell me they're going to get to know 'ordinary'
New Yorkers. Maybe as housekeepers. Puhleeze.
(3) Whatever values they want to impart to their children, they can do
so in LA, NY, Memphis, Minnesota, or Calcutta. It's a matter of their
initiative, not their location.
This is just a big dose of Let's Make an Excuse from the ever
nonimpressive Ms. Leoni.
What do people see in her?She's so witty so this so
that....blahblahblah. Huh? Her own TV show? Stank. Her film roles?
Dubious. Her looks? She's OK. She got fake boobs for Dave. I can think
of 20 women who are more beautiful. She came from money and life so
rarely sucks when that's the case. She's probably got a publicist who
sucks the best cock around because she's always make a splash in
magazines but I look and I just don't see any there there.
Yeah yeah yeah. David's girlies are going to kick my ass for blurting
this out, but sweeties, get over it. David married her but nobody has
to love her but him. I'm glad if he is genuinely in love and happy in
his marriage. That's a blessing for everyone and anyone. But Tea comes
off just icky to me, always has, and, I think, always will.
Lynn Ditto
"Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:acuc9v$rrasa$1...@ID-118774.news.dfncis.de...
>
> Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> children there. She says, "David and I have been
> talking about returning to New York because we
> don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
> up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> rich Hollywood kids."
> --------------------------------------------
>
> LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
>
> --
And there aren't spoiled rich kids in NY?????? That's funny. Like she and
David would live in Brooklyn or something!
Lynn
Alan Hurshman
It sounds more like a complaint about new money
versus old. With famous millionaire parents these
kids are unlikely to meet anyone who is not also rich
and spoiled. Going to New York they will just be
moving into an older and possibly more stable rich
kid enviornment. Being closer to their grandparents
and other members of the two families would not be
a bad thing either.
--
Alan Hurshman
Halifax, Nova Scotia
"You don't spit into the wind. You
Alan Hurshman
> "Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote
> > --------------------------------------------
> > LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
>
> (1) New York is "normal"? Let me tell you the most normal place either
> of them have ever lived - Vancouver. If they want to move to
> Bakersfield, CA, or Charlotte, NC, or Ft. Worth Texas, then we'll talk
> 'normal.'
I wonder how Gillian feels about the friends her
daughter has made while in Vancouver?
> (2) With their level of (a) wealth (b) fame (c) security needed
> they'd live a 'normal' life in NY? Hell no. They'd have chauffers,
> security, doormen, nannies, private schools and Ralph Lauren out the
> yingyang, and don't tell me they're going to get to know 'ordinary'
> New Yorkers. Maybe as housekeepers. Puhleeze.
LOL
> This is just a big dose of Let's Make an Excuse from the ever
> nonimpressive Ms. Leoni.
I quite like her work. She can be very funny.
And she gives great interview GA & DD should
take lessons from her.
Alan Hurshman
> "Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote
> > From IMDB:
> > Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> > spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> > who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> > of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> > children there. She says, "David and I have been
> > talking about returning to New York because we
> > don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> > is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
> > up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> > rich Hollywood kids."
> > --------------------------------------------
> > LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
>
> David would live in Brooklyn or something!
Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
;-P
dee_ayy
> (2) With their level of (a) wealth (b) fame (c) security needed
> they'd live a 'normal' life in NY? Hell no. They'd have chauffers,
> security, doormen, nannies, private schools and Ralph Lauren out the
> yingyang, and don't tell me they're going to get to know 'ordinary'
> New Yorkers. Maybe as housekeepers. Puhleeze.
Spoken like someone who knows nothing about New York City. Unless
you're Donald Trump, celebrities in New York don't have personal
security, and don't have chauffeurs (they're called cabs), because
they are left alone. Many ride the subway, for God's sake (I've seen
Matthew Broderick and Billy Crystal on the subway). And the mere
geography of the place guarantees that you come in contact with people
from all walks of life all the time. The kid on the other end of the
see-saw in Central Park could be the child of an Arab Sultan, a
grade-school teacher, a cab driver, or someone on welfare. Even in an
exclusive uptown NYC private school the kid sitting next to you could
be John F. Kennedy, Jr., or a lower-middle-class Jewish scholarship
student from the East Village.
It's about living in a place where your children will be exposed to
people of all walks of life, with all sorts of different backgrounds
and values and things they can teach you. It's about diversity of
experience. And that is not going to happen in Malibu.
And *that* is, I believe, her point. *That* is "normal" to her and her
husband. It's something that, I think, is particularly important to,
and valued by, people who were themselves raised in such an
environment--like they were.
D
Tara
<Bakefo...@350degrees.yum> wrote:
>And there aren't spoiled rich kids in NY?????? That's funny. Like she and
>David would live in Brooklyn or something!
Excuse me.
I barely know you. But that doesn't mean I won't hurt you.
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Tara
<alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
>;-P
There are areas of the Bronx which are quite affluent.
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Tara
<snips>
>It's about living in a place where your children will be exposed to
>people of all walks of life, with all sorts of different backgrounds
>and values and things they can teach you. It's about diversity of
>experience. And that is not going to happen in Malibu.
>
>And *that* is, I believe, her point. *That* is "normal" to her and her
>husband. It's something that, I think, is particularly important to,
>and valued by, people who were themselves raised in such an
>environment--like they were.
Exactly.
Thank you.
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Jen (is not a potato)
<tara_c...@yahoo.com> fawned:
>On 28 May 2002 08:22:44 -0700, dee...@yahoo.com (dee_ayy) wrote:
>>It's about living in a place where your children will be exposed to
>>people of all walks of life, with all sorts of different backgrounds
>>and values and things they can teach you. It's about diversity of
>>experience. And that is not going to happen in Malibu.
It might not happen in Malibu, but it probably would happen in Santa
Monica, east LA or any number of more diverse areas of LA county. You
get what you look for in Southern California.
>>And *that* is, I believe, her point. *That* is "normal" to her and her
>>husband. It's something that, I think, is particularly important to,
>>and valued by, people who were themselves raised in such an
>>environment--like they were.
Normal? They can have that kind of environment anywhere they go, even
in CA. There was no need to cast aspersions on Los Angeles if they
really just want to live near David's parents or hometown.
>Exactly.
Yeah!
>
>Thank you.
Anytime. ; -)
Jen
--
XFW1 FEB ggg
~~It is a mistake to think you can solve any major
problems just with potatoes. Douglas Adams~~
http://www.geocities.com/jennifernasrin
Alan Hurshman
> On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:42:59 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
> >;-P
>
> There are areas of the Bronx which are quite affluent.
But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder
fixing the plaster?
--
Alan Hurshman
Halifax, Nova Scotia
"You don't spit into the wind. You
don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone
Ranger and you don't kill the Lone
Gunmen."
"I smell a rat, I see him forming in
the air. He is darkening the sky."
kim
> kimonth...@yahoo.com (kim) wrote in message news:<8609dbf0.02052...@posting.google.com>...
>
>
> > (2) With their level of (a) wealth (b) fame (c) security needed
> > they'd live a 'normal' life in NY? Hell no. They'd have chauffers,
> > security, doormen, nannies, private schools and Ralph Lauren out the
> > yingyang, and don't tell me they're going to get to know 'ordinary'
> > New Yorkers. Maybe as housekeepers. Puhleeze.
>
> Spoken like someone who knows nothing about New York City. Unless
> you're Donald Trump, celebrities in New York don't have personal
> security,
Excuse the fuck out of me for not having an intimate relationship with
NYC. I've visted there. I had a nice time. But, I like London, San
Francisco, Chicago, and Los Angeles much better, which is, last I
checked, my right.
And you might want to check the facts on Ms. Leoni's stated, in fact,
often stated, remarks that she and David have 24 hours personal
security due to 'stalking fans.'
> and don't have chauffeurs (they're called cabs),
You've never seen a limousine in NYC? Are you sure you've been there?
because
> they are left alone. Many ride the subway, for God's sake (I've seen
> Matthew Broderick and Billy Crystal on the subway).
Which would tell me that they don't have the personal security
situation that Ms. Leoni claims her family does.
And the mere
> geography of the place guarantees that you come in contact with people
> from all walks of life all the time.
Economic or ethnic diversity is not unique to New York. Five blocks
from me is a barrio, 6 blocks the other way is a public housing
project, and a mile to the east I've got an Asian open air market.
>
> It's about living in a place where your children will be exposed to
> people of all walks of life, with all sorts of different backgrounds
> and values and things they can teach you. It's about diversity of
> experience. And that is not going to happen in Malibu.
Malibu happens to be adjacent to where the entertainment industry is
headquartered - Los Angeles. I would have to suppose that David and
Tea are going to cut down their film/tv work schedule and/or get used
to redeye flights and temporary relocations to LA when work calls.
The last I checked, also, Los Angeles has plenty of ethnic diversity
and plenty of chances for Leoni-Duchovnys to mix with the normal
folks. Drive to fricken Van Nuys and walk down the street.
>
> And *that* is, I believe, her point. *That* is "normal" to her and her
> husband. It's something that, I think, is particularly important to,
> and valued by, people who were themselves raised in such an
> environment--like they were.
How lovely that they have you to speak for them. My point remains: if
they want to raise their kids with diversity, real values, then they
can do so anywhere. But their wealth and celebrity are also going to
go everywhere with them and unless they find a way to chuck that too,
they're going to have something of a rarified life, anywhere, and
everywhere.
Marlene Steinberg
Alan Hurshman wrote:
> "Tara" <tara_c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:42:59 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
> > >Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
> > >;-P
> >
> > There are areas of the Bronx which are quite affluent.
>
> But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder
> fixing the plaster?
>
> --
> Alan Hurshman
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
Why not? Not every guy is good at those things. If he is then yes i can
see him doing things around the house. Didn't Mitch say that he likes to
make furniture. I don't think he has the money that David has but i'm
sure he is well off.
Marlene
DDuchov42
>you're Donald Trump, celebrities in New York don't have personal
>security, and don't have chauffeurs (they're called cabs), because
>they are left alone. Many ride the subway,
NYC does have diversity and that is probabaly the best thing about
it....(besides Broadway and the fact that there is always something going on.)
But, for me, it rather pisses me off when SOME celebs go on and on about how
they are New Yorkers when, in reality, they dont take the subway to work, they
dont walk everywhere. I udnerstand there may be that select few like Broderick
and Crystal- good for them. But, out of curiousity, Rosie O'Donnell goes ON and
ON about being a New Yorker.....is she a *true* New Yorker?
VerlindaH
>From: Hank ah...@GARBAGEphilipkdick.com
>Date: 5/28/2002 9:57 AM Central Daylight Time
>
>Rumor has it that T Block put forth the following:
>
>>
>>"LOSMYSTERIOS" <losmys...@aol.com> wrote ...
>>> >From: "Alan Hurshman" alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca
>>> >
>>> >Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at spoiled rich kids in
>Hollywood.
>>> The sexy star, who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick of Los
>Angeles,
>>> and doesn't want to raise her children there. She says, "David and I have
>been
>>> talking about returning to New York because we don't want to raise our
>children
>>> in L.A. Something
>>> is missing there.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Tea is hardly the first actor to utter this kind of sentiment.
>>
>>Reference: _The Tubes_, White Punks On Dope, 1972 (or so)
>
>Ah, You're a beauty, Tony.
Don't fall in love.
VerlindaH
>
DDuchov42
>headquartered - Los Angeles. I would have to suppose that David and
>Tea are going to cut down their film/tv work schedule and/or get used
>to redeye flights and temporary relocations to LA when work calls.
>The last I checked, also, Los Angeles has plenty of ethnic diversity
>and plenty of chances for Leoni-Duchovnys to mix with the normal
>folks. Drive to fricken Van Nuys and walk down the street.
What the HECK is the world coming to? I agree with Kim :P
KatieMoo
"Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:acuc9v$rrasa$1...@ID-118774.news.dfncis.de...
>
> Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> children there. She says, "David and I have been
> talking about returning to
...Vancouver, where all the people are so nice, and there's such lovely
weather and everything's so lush and green."
Aw, how sweet! ;P
Katie
KatieMoo
"DDuchov42" <dduc...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020527231834...@mb-fz.aol.com...
> It is so ironic that this statement is toward "rich hollywood kids,"
because
> Madeline already is one.....talk about stereotyping. I understand their
> intentions and I respect them for it. But, they haven't experienced all of
> SoCal and not all of Socal has rich hollywood kids, only the places that
they
> would send their children.
And not of SoCal is Los Angeles.
Katie <-- in San Diego, and not a rich Hollywood kid
dee_ayy
> Excuse the fuck out of me for not having an intimate relationship with
> NYC.
So what the heck makes you qualified to tell us all what kind of life
they WILL lead if they move back to NYC? You yourself just admitted
that you don't know what you're talking about.
I've visted there. I had a nice time. But, I like London, San
> Francisco, Chicago, and Los Angeles much better, which is, last I
> checked, my right.
Who's denying you your rights? Who CARES about your rights? Like
anyone cares where New York ranks on your list of favorite cities.
Like it MATTERS. But if you don't know anything about New York, and
what life is like for the people who live there, then maybe you should
refrain from making ignorant assumptions about same, eh?
<snip more stuff displaying ignorance of life in NYC>
> > And *that* is, I believe, her point. *That* is "normal" to her and her
> > husband. It's something that, I think, is particularly important to,
> > and valued by, people who were themselves raised in such an
> > environment--like they were.
>
> How lovely that they have you to speak for them.
SPEAK FOR THEM? Do you not see the words "I believe" and "I think" in
my above statement? To any normal human being that clearly indicates I
am making an interpretation, and that the LAST thing I am deigning to
do is speak *for* them.
D
Sarabelle
>
> But, for me, it rather pisses me off when SOME celebs go on and on about how
> they are New Yorkers when, in reality, they dont take the subway to work, they
> dont walk everywhere. I udnerstand there may be that select few like Broderick
> and Crystal- good for them. But, out of curiousity, Rosie O'Donnell goes ON
and
> ON about being a New Yorker.....is she a *true* New Yorker?
She was born and raised in Long Island and now lives in Nyack, with an apartment
in Manhattan.
--
-Sarabelle
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kim
Eeeek! ::::checks outside window for signs of the Apocalpyse:::
"It's the end of the world as we know it .....and I feel fine."
;-D
kim
>
> > Excuse the fuck out of me for not having an intimate relationship with
> > NYC.
>
> So what the heck makes you qualified to tell us all what kind of life
> they WILL lead if they move back to NYC? You yourself just admitted
> that you don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't speak directly to anything about life in New York City. I
just went from what Tea said her life is like in LA and took that as a
starting point. I spoke regarding conditions that put your post about
what the Duchovnys would experience as far as normal life in NY into
perspective. Namely that:
(1) she claims they have to have 24 hour security. Would the need for
this go away in NY so that Tea, who fears for her life and for her
children, rides the subway like Joe Schmo? I don't know. If she's
afraid of weird stalkery fans, who's to say she wouldn't be afraid in
NY too? You did not speak to this point, and it is this very issue
that would largely define how 'normal' one's life would be in NY or LA
or Timbuktoo.
(2) economic/ethnic diversity is not exclusive to NY, and is present
in abundance in LA. You did not refute this point either.
(3) that no matter where they go, they will be rich and famous, and
that creates its own reality, in New York, or LA. You did not refute
this point.
You also made no comment on the fact that there ARE in fact limousines
in New York. You know it. I know it.
Please advise when you have something substantive to say about the
life conditions of the Duchovnys and how their security problems and
their wealth/fame will miraculously dissapear or not matter if they
move to New York. Until you can advise us of that, it's clear that you
really don't have anything else to add to this discussion.
Tara
<alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>"Tara" <tara_c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:42:59 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
>> >Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
>> >;-P
>>
>> There are areas of the Bronx which are quite affluent.
>
>But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder
>fixing the plaster?
Well, no...but I don't see anyone on ATXF doing that, either. ;-P
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Alan Hurshman
> >> On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:42:59 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
> >> >Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
> >> >;-P
> >> There are areas of the Bronx which are quite affluent.
> >But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder
> >fixing the plaster?
>
> Well, no...but I don't see anyone on ATXF doing that, either. ;-P
Well I've done it. Professionally. And there are
people around here who have been known to
destroy entire forests.
Sean Carroll
<tbloc...@softhome.net> wrote:
>"Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote ...
>> And there are
>> people around here who have been known to
>> destroy entire forests.
>Hey!
Now, now, Tony. Just because you're a conservative doesn't mean he's
talking about *you* everytime he mentions floral genocide. ;P
kim
Well, I don't claim to know anything about anyone's money but I rather
doubt Mitch *has* to make his own furniture. Woodworking is a great
hobby but if you start buying all the power tools you are talking both
serious money and serious need of a big workshop space.
Harrison Ford supported himself doing carpentry projects before he got
steady work as an actor.
You gotta love men who are good with their hands.
;-P~~~~~~~
Rstetradio
>>But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder fixing the plaster?
LMAO.....maybe if he got drunk on his ass first....today's Dave and manual
labor?....I think not, lol.
laura capozzola
Oh wait a second. I seem to remember a few years ago somebody,
Hank maybe, saying they were plastering their bathroom or maybe
somebody said they were plastered in their bathroom...
But just as an FYI, there are 112 atxf threads with the word
"plaster" in them since 1996. I may be anal enough to look that
up but I'm not anal enough to read them.
One thread was about Donnie Plaster... ;-D
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> From IMDB:
>
> Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> children there. She says, "David and I have been
> don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> rich Hollywood kids."
> --------------------------------------------
>
> LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
Even Greater LOL. These hypocritical Hollywood liberals suck up all
the bucks they can - hey Tea, when't Jurassic Park 4 coming out - and
then whine and complain about it. Duchovny got MILLIONS just for a few
TXF shows the last couple of years and now they hate the place! They
both BELONG there. LOL
Hattie54
>Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
>spoiled rich kids in Hollywood.
>We'd feel better if they could grow
>up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
>rich Hollywood kids."
Kudos to her !!!! The schools in NY and Conn. are better plus her parents
aren't getting younger, neither is DD's Mom.
Harriet
Hattie54
>> Tea is hardly the first actor to utter this kind of sentiment.
Or the last . <G>
Harriet
Hattie54
>just went from what Tea said her life is like in LA and took that as a
>starting point.
Tea just wants to go back home .Nothing wrong with that .
Harriet
Alan Hurshman
> Tara wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 May 2002 19:15:06 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
> > >> On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:42:59 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
> > >> >Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
> > >But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder
> > >fixing the plaster?
> > Well, no...but I don't see anyone on ATXF doing that, either. ;-P
> Oh wait a second. I seem to remember a few years ago somebody,
> Hank maybe, saying they were plastering their bathroom or maybe
> somebody said they were plastered in their bathroom...
Hasn't gizzie done both?
Alan Hurshman
Moving back ho,me to be with family is a good idea.
But why dump on people who are very much from
the same segment of society you are? Actors have
reputations every bit as bad as the spoiled rich kids
of LA. Worse even.
Hattie54
>TXF shows the last couple of years and now they hate the place! They
>both BELONG there. LOL
>
Leaving Malibu will be harder on DD than Tea . Read Tea loves the cold and rain
and DD really doesn't.
Harriet
Alan Hurshman
YAY!!!!
{uses super brain powers to send Vancouver weather to NYC}
XXXXgizzieXXXX
"Alan Hurshman" <> wrote
> Well I've done it. Professionally. And there are
> people around here who have been known to
> destroy entire forests.
I smooshed a tree stump today. Does that count?
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"Alan Hurshman" <> wrote
> "laura capozzola" <> wrote
> > Hank maybe, saying they were plastering their bathroom or maybe
> > somebody said they were plastered in their bathroom...
> Hasn't gizzie done both?
Damn, you beat me to it :)
XXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXX
DDuchov42
That is utter bullshit.
Schools are better in NY...how about, no?
Perhaps the overall educational status of NY isn't amongst the worst in the
nation, but its not like all of CA produces dumbass, stereotypical people that
so many of you suggest. (okay, I'm exaggerating...argh)
To argue that going to NY for you children's schooling is unbelievable, there
are plenty fine public/private schools that HAVE DIVERSITY and arn't
associated with the so-called 'Hollywood Rich Kids.'
Go to NY to be where you grew up, because you enjoy the city, be by your family
or whatever. But, dont talk shit about the CA schools...muwhaha <grumble> the
vast majority of the best universities are on the west anyways <grumble>
Lauren....who doesn't know why she even discusses this topic because, why the
heck does it even freakin matter? Go to Antartica for schooling, damn it
dee_ayy
> I didn't speak directly to anything about life in New York City.
You didn't? Let me refresh your memory. THIS is what you said about
life in New York City:
"(1) New York is "normal"? Let me tell you the most normal place
either
of them have ever lived - Vancouver. If they want to move to
Bakersfield, CA, or Charlotte, NC, or Ft. Worth Texas, then we'll talk
'normal.'
(2) With their level of (a) wealth (b) fame (c) security needed
they'd live a 'normal' life in NY? Hell no. They'd have chauffers,
security, doormen, nannies, private schools and Ralph Lauren out the
yingyang, and don't tell me they're going to get to know 'ordinary'
New Yorkers. Maybe as housekeepers. Puhleeze."
And you followed that up with the lovely "Excuse the fuck out of me
for not having an intimate relationship with NYC."
So, based on this admitted LACK of knowledge of New York City, on what
basis do you make claims (1) and (2) about how "normal" it is there,
and what the Duchovny's life would be like there? (I don't see any "I
think" or "I believe"s coming from *you*.) By your own admission,
none.
So. Let's summarize. You have no idea what kind of life celebrities
(or people in general) lead in New York City. So you do not know that
New Yorkers are nonplussed by celebrities in their midst. They leave
them alone. You do not know that this may be attributed to the fact
that the large number of people fitting into a relatively small space
means the people must allow others psychological, if not physical,
space on the streets. That the lack of eye-contact that tourists call
rude is actually a habit borne of consideration and self-preservation.
And because that's the prevailing behavior on the streets of NYC,
celebrities walk them without security and whatnot, and by and large
not be bothered. You know none of this, because you admittedly have no
"intimate relationship with NYC."
And you do not know that if you opened the doors to all those limos on
the streets in NYC you would NOT find celebrities who live in the
city. You will find visiting rich folks making a splash. You will find
visiting businesspeople being treated well by the companies with which
they are in town to do business. You will find lots of people who have
hired a limo to take them to the airport (it's often CHEAPER than a
cab). And you'll find the odd visiting celeb, provided the limo by
their film company or whatnot. You WILL NOT find New Yorker
celebrities--except, as I already mentioned, those of the Donald Trump
ilk. Famous actors, though? No. Go to Broadway, where Liam Neeson,
Chris O'Donnell, Alicia Silverstone, Alan Rickman, Kathleen Turner,
and I can't remember who else, are all starring in plays. When the
show is over, do their limos pull up to the stage door? Nope. They
leave, go to the corner, and hail a cab, just like everyone else. In
New York, celebs CAN live just like everyone else. They ride cabs and
subways, they walk, they shop, they take their kids to the park and
sit in the window at Starbucks and people-watch. And their fellow New
Yorkers leave them alone. But you wouldn't know that, because you have
no "intimate relationship" with New York.
So why don't you just stop right now, since you admit over and over
and over (even in this reply you state "Would the need for [security]
go away in NY. . . . I don't know.") that you have NO basis to be
making any assumptions whatsoever about what life is like for celebs
in New York, or would be like for the Duchovnys should they move
there. Yes, celebrity has its own reality. But many many many
celebrities believe, firmly, that the "reality" in New York is much
preferable to that in LA. Celebs come to New York to blend in, be
invisible. And by and large, they succeed. Being famous isn't the
*point* in New York. Sush a large number of New Yorkers aren't
impressed by celebrity that those who *are* impressed don't act it,
because that's not the proper way to act there. But still, living in
New York is not easy in general, and that's probably why more celebs
don't try it. But for Tea and David, both born-and-raised New Yorkers?
Those things that would be challenges to a transplant (noise, traffic,
human congestion, etc.) are old hat to them. It's NORMAL. And that
makes New York City the obvious choice for them if their current home
doesn't provide the kind of environment that they want for their
children. It's their hometown, after all.
A town you admittedly know nothing about.
D
Jen (is not a potato)
fawned:
>Lauren....who doesn't know why she even discusses this topic because, why the
>heck does it even freakin matter? Go to Antartica for schooling, damn it
And you are arguing with Hattie, the most clueless, racist poster at
ATXF. What's the point?
Jen
product of CA public schools
former CA public school teacher
current CA public university prof
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> Jen
> product of CA public schools
> former CA public school teacher
Hooray for CA public schools!! As a product of one myself, you have my
thanks and appreciation.
<bows down>
Brie
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KatieMoo
> > The schools in NY and Conn. are better plus her
>
> That is utter bullshit.
> Schools are better in NY...how about, no?
> Perhaps the overall educational status of NY isn't amongst the worst in
the
> nation, but its not like all of CA produces dumbass, stereotypical people
that
> so many of you suggest. (okay, I'm exaggerating...argh)
The Superintendant and Chancellor of Education in the San Diego city school
district are both from the NYC district, and the administration in SD in the
last 4 years has been modeled after that in NY, and SD is beginning to come
across the same problems that NY is having.
> To argue that going to NY for you children's schooling is unbelievable,
there
> are plenty fine public/private schools that HAVE DIVERSITY and arn't
> associated with the so-called 'Hollywood Rich Kids.'
> Go to NY to be where you grew up, because you enjoy the city, be by your
family
> or whatever. But, dont talk shit about the CA schools...muwhaha <grumble>
the
> vast majority of the best universities are on the west anyways <grumble>
Public universities, anyway. I wouldn't say much for the private ones out
here. ;P
Katie
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"Brie" <bbo...@stanford.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.020529...@cardinal3.Stanford.EDU...
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, Jen (is not a potato) wrote:
>
> > Jen
> > product of CA public schools
> > former CA public school teacher
>
> Hooray for CA public schools!! As a product of one myself, you have my
> thanks and appreciation.
>
> <bows down>
And then you went to Stanford. Humph. ;P
Katie <-- only really gets school spirit when she's on the ng
Kipler
what it's like to live in EITHER city), I gotta say that they *both* look weird
to the folks in middle America. (Riding in a CAB to school? What's THAT
about?!)
But I'm sure middle America looks weird to the folks in NY and LA.
Everything's relative.
--Kipler
Hattie54
>vast majority of the best universities are on the west anyways <grumble>
I didn't say colleges, I'm talking about regular schools .
Harriet
Alan Hurshman
> "Alan Hurshman" <> wrote
> > Well I've done it. Professionally. And there are
> > people around here who have been known to
> > destroy entire forests.
>
> I smooshed a tree stump today. Does that count?
I'm not sure. We will have to ask Tara for
an opinion on this. ;-D
Alan Hurshman
> Go to NY to be where you grew up, because you enjoy the city, be by your
family
> or whatever. But, dont talk shit about the CA schools...muwhaha <grumble>
the
> vast majority of the best universities are on the west anyways <grumble>
>
> Lauren....who doesn't know why she even discusses this topic because, why
the
> heck does it even freakin matter? Go to Antartica for schooling, damn it
Better still, go to Churchill, Manitoba. The polar bears
up there make sure the kids don't spoil.
kim
Blahblahblah. What a lot of anger! Why don't you take several deep
cleansing breaths! What's your chip on your shoulder about? And what's
your investment in making New York City seem like Normaltown USA?
Pretending otherwise is deluded, arguing that it's just so normal is
laughable.
So, getting to the matter at hand, you're saying that the
Duchovny/Leoni family's security problem would vanish in New York
because New Yorkers are so blase about celebrities?
Listen up, toots, here come the questions:
Does that or does that not get rid of the stalker(s) of which Ms.
Leoni complains?
Is the zeitgeist of New York enough to take care of the threat
situation for which the Duchovnys hire 24 hour security, yes or no?
You're talking about how very cool New Yorkers in general are. And
even if we take that in general as true, the salient points that I
mentioned are not to the coolness of the population in general (which
would also be true of celeb-soaked Angelenos) but to the 24 hour
security situation in which the Duchovnys find themselves trapped.
Thus, exactly what I mentioned - security, doormen, nannies, maybe
even the dreaded limo, are all still on the table. How could they not
be? Nothing you have said about how NY population in general behaves
refutes this.
Perhaps you need to read up on what it is to be stalked, or at least
frightened or hounded enough to hire 24 hour security, which is,
apparently what the situation is with the Duchovnys. There's an
excellent book called "I Know You Really Love Me" by Doreen Orion.
As for the transporation situation for our friends on Broadway, I have
to admit you're quite right there. When I saw Ralph Fiennes and
Francesca Annis (reeking of strong perfume and face cream so much that
every person she came near had to sniffle or cough) leaving the
Belasco after "Hamlet" - you're completely right, they didn't take a
limo. It was a Lincoln Continental. With a driver.
And you're further right that I know nothing of a town called New
York. There isn't one. It's a city. Your city, apparently. A nice
place in many ways, I guess, despite your less than genial
ambassadorship.
Brie
>
> "Brie" <bbo...@stanford.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.020529...@cardinal3.Stanford.EDU...
> > On Thu, 30 May 2002, Jen (is not a potato) wrote:
> >
> > > Jen
> > > product of CA public schools
> > > former CA public school teacher
> >
> > Hooray for CA public schools!! As a product of one myself, you have my
> > thanks and appreciation.
> >
> > <bows down>
>
> And then you went to Stanford. Humph. ;P
Yeah, with its sky-high admission rates and dismal job placement. It's a
real tragedy.
kim
Yes I doubt you have anything to say about college, at least not from
first-hand experience.
kim
>
> > Jen
> > product of CA public schools
> > former CA public school teacher
>
> Hooray for CA public schools!! As a product of one myself, you have my
> thanks and appreciation.
There's a good education to be had in many many public school systems
around the country. It's a matter of finding the schools within any
district that are working best. My neighbor's son who just got into
Annapolis not only made good grades, but also seemed to get a very
good education, at a local inner city public school.
All that said, however, I will pay $20 to the charity of the first
claimant's choice if West Duchovny or PlayerToBeNamedLater Duchovny
ever go to a public school, in New York, in LA or anywhere. I just
don't see that as a reality for Movie Star Kids these days.
Anna
<sniphappy>
Have you started your internship at Miramax yet?
Anna
Anna
>
> All that said, however, I will pay $20 to the charity of the first
> claimant's choice if West Duchovny or PlayerToBeNamedLater Duchovny
> ever go to a public school, in New York, in LA or anywhere. I just
> don't see that as a reality for Movie Star Kids these days.
I think GA's daughter attended a public school in Vancouver. I'm not sure where I read that so it may not be true.
Anna
W. Blaine Dowler
> I think GA's daughter attended a public school in Vancouver. I'm not
> sure where I read that so it may not be true.
>
> Anna
I don't have hard evidence to back that up, but it's certainly
consistent with her "I want my child to have the most normal childhood
possible" attitude.
Of course, Piper would have been around three years old when the show
moved out of Vancouver, so I'm more likely to believe that she'd been
planning to send her to a Vancouver public school and then ended up
sending her to public school elsewhere.
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>
> Of course, Piper would have been around three years old when the show
> moved out of Vancouver, so I'm more likely to believe that she'd been
> planning to send her to a Vancouver public school and then ended up
> sending her to public school elsewhere.
I thought Piper went to school in Vancouver
as a result of an agreement with Piper's father.
Michael Walsh
Kipler wrote:
I came out of Mineral Point, Wisconsin which I believe falls in what
could be called "middle America" and is a town of about 2300 people.
I now live in a condo in Van Nuys, California which is (at least currently)
part of the city of Los Angeles. The area around here doesn't look rich
and isn't very near Hollywood. Tea Leoni and David Duchovny could
certainly move into a poorer neighborhood in Los Angeles if they so
desired.
From my perspective LA looks quite a bit weirder than my old
home town.
Mike Walsh
W. Blaine Dowler
> I thought Piper went to school in Vancouver
> as a result of an agreement with Piper's father.
It's possible. I'm not that familiar with the intimate details of their
private lives. Hell, I'm obviously not even familiar with the major
details.
Anna
>
> It's possible. I'm not that familiar with the intimate details of their
> private lives. Hell, I'm obviously not even familiar with the major
> details.
No, she's definitely in school in Vancouver. Its one of the reasons GA
wanted to work less in Seasons 8 and 9. She wanted to be able to visit with
her daughter in Vancouver.
Anna
Rstetradio
>All that said, however, I will pay $20 to the charity of the first
>claimant's choice if West Duchovny or PlayerToBeNamedLater Duchovny
>ever go to a public school, in New York, in LA or anywhere. I just
>don't see that as a reality for Movie Star Kids these days.
Darlin', you said it all in a nutshell. West and PTBNL Duchovny will not be
seen at public schools, count on it.
DDuchov42
>Darlin', you said it all in a nutshell. West and PTBNL Duchovny will not be
>seen at public schools, count on it.
PTBNL...PTBNL....what the heck is that? Their child yet to be born named Pat
the Bare Naked Lady?
Anna
http://leonionline.com/articles/movieline2000.htm
Q: You went to a number of privileged schools. Will you put your children in
private or public schools?
A: Given the state of California public schools, I'd put them in private schools.
We can afford it. I'm not going to play with my child's mind or education to make
some sort of political statement. I think David and I will probably move back to
New York to get access to certain schools. I can't imagine sticking my daughter
in a car on the Pacific Coast Highway, the most dangerous highway in America,
twice a day for umpteen years to get to a school. We grew up in New York, and
there's something terribly important about seasonal changes, about your not being
the biggest thing--your activities and choices are going to be made for you by
this earth.
That should settle it.
Anna
Tara
<alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>"XXXXgizzieXXXX" <xxgiz...@attbi.com> wrote
>> "Alan Hurshman" <> wrote
>> > Well I've done it. Professionally. And there are
>> > people around here who have been known to
>> > destroy entire forests.
>>
>> I smooshed a tree stump today. Does that count?
>
>I'm not sure. We will have to ask Tara for
>an opinion on this. ;-D
A stump is what a TREE was when it was a TREE. Smooshing a stump is
not hurtful to the TREE.
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Tara
<laur...@erols.com> wrote:
>Tara wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 May 2002 19:15:06 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
>> <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tara" <tara_c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:42:59 -0300, "Alan Hurshman"
>> >> >Well they might buy a fixer-upper in the Bronx.
>> >> >;-P
>> >>
>> >> There are areas of the Bronx which are quite affluent.
>> >
>> >But do you see preppy boy up on a ladder
>> >fixing the plaster?
>>
>> Well, no...but I don't see anyone on ATXF doing that, either. ;-P
>
>Oh wait a second. I seem to remember a few years ago somebody,
>Hank maybe, saying they were plastering their bathroom or maybe
>somebody said they were plastered in their bathroom...
>
>But just as an FYI, there are 112 atxf threads with the word
>"plaster" in them since 1996. I may be anal enough to look that
>up but I'm not anal enough to read them.
Watch out. Katie might make another webpage for you. ;-P
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Tara
>Perhaps the overall educational status of NY isn't amongst
Among.
>the worst in the
>nation, but its not like all of CA produces dumbass, stereotypical people that
>so many of you suggest. (okay, I'm exaggerating...argh)
>To argue that going to NY for you children's
your children's
>schooling is unbelievable, there are plenty fine
plenty *of* fine
>public/private schools that HAVE DIVERSITY and arn't
aren't
>associated with the so-called 'Hollywood Rich Kids.'
>Go to NY to be where you grew up, because you enjoy the city, be by your family
>or whatever. But, dont talk shit about the CA schools...muwhaha <grumble> the
>vast majority of the best universities are on the west anyways
West anyway.
><grumble>
Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell, MIT...
>Lauren....who doesn't know why she even discusses this topic because, why the
>heck does it even freakin matter? Go to Antartica for schooling, damn it
Antarctica.
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Product of the NYC Public School system.
Sean Carroll
<jenn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Jen
>product of CA public schools
>former CA public school teacher
>current CA public university prof
>never been to Antarctica
Dammit, you just ruined the NG. We were going to spend the time
between now and the next movie speculating on how you got out of
Antarctica. Thanks a LOT. :P~~~
XXXXgizzieXXXX
"T Block" <tbloc...@softhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "XXXXgizzieXXXX" <> wrote
I smooshed a tree stump today. Does that count?
> Smooshed? You make it sound so easy.
It was easy--the treee has been cut down for ten years, the stump
was pithy and rotten.
--
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deering
kim wrote:
>
> dee...@yahoo.com (dee_ayy) wrote in message news:<eca67799.02052...@posting.google.com>...
>
> Listen up, toots, here come the questions:
>
> Does that or does that not get rid of the stalker(s) of which Ms.
> Leoni complains?
>
> Is the zeitgeist of New York enough to take care of the threat
> situation for which the Duchovnys hire 24 hour security, yes or no?
>
> You're talking about how very cool New Yorkers in general are. And
> even if we take that in general as true, the salient points that I
> mentioned are not to the coolness of the population in general (which
> would also be true of celeb-soaked Angelenos) but to the 24 hour
> security situation in which the Duchovnys find themselves trapped.
> Thus, exactly what I mentioned - security, doormen, nannies, maybe
> even the dreaded limo, are all still on the table. How could they not
> be? Nothing you have said about how NY population in general behaves
> refutes this.
>
> Perhaps you need to read up on what it is to be stalked, or at least
> frightened or hounded enough to hire 24 hour security, which is,
> apparently what the situation is with the Duchovnys. There's an
> excellent book called "I Know You Really Love Me" by Doreen Orion.
One question: if one is being stalked, why on earth announce that
you are thinking of moving back to New York (or announce anything
about your possible destination?)
C.
**
W. Blaine Dowler
> One question: if one is being stalked, why on earth announce that
> you are thinking of moving back to New York (or announce anything
> about your possible destination?)
Because your public statement lie about where you're moving to?
--
- Blaine (hears Anchorage is nice this time of year)
deering
"W. Blaine Dowler" wrote:
>
> deering wrote:
>
> > One question: if one is being stalked, why on earth announce that
> > you are thinking of moving back to New York (or announce anything
> > about your possible destination?)
>
> Because your public statement lie about where you're moving to?
Er. . .well, why not just keep quiet about the whole thing? Stalkers
spend their lives second-guessing and pursuing their targets--why
give them any fodder?
C.
**
dee_ayy
> Blahblahblah. What a lot of anger! Why don't you take several deep
> cleansing breaths! What's your chip on your shoulder about? And what's
> your investment in making New York City seem like Normaltown USA?
> Pretending otherwise is deluded, arguing that it's just so normal is
> laughable.
Normal is relative. To a New Yorker, life in New York is normal. It's
really not a hard concept to grasp. Nothing would be more ABNORMAL to
me than to be forced (and it would take force) to live in Texas. I'm
sure you'd disagree. Get it?
And I'll let people read your posts and mine, and decide for
themselves who has anger issues. It's what they call a no brainer,
toots.
D
Jen (is not a potato)
<santo....@sympatico.ca> fawned:
>http://leonionline.com/articles/movieline2000.htm
>
>Q: You went to a number of privileged schools. Will you put your children in
>private or public schools?
>A: Given the state of California public schools, I'd put them in private schools.
>We can afford it. I'm not going to play with my child's mind or education to make
>some sort of political statement. I think David and I will probably move back to
>New York to get access to certain schools. I can't imagine sticking my daughter
>in a car on the Pacific Coast Highway, the most dangerous highway in America,
>twice a day for umpteen years to get to a school.
This kind of statement horrifies me. What does Tea Leoni know about CA
public schools? Probably only what she sees/reads in the media. That's
not the best possible portrayal of what really happens. I know LOTS of
teachers and most of them are absolutely fantastic. None of them have
gotten onto the TV news and very few have been praised in the media in
any way. The only way for a teacher to become famous is to do something
awful, like kidnap or molest a child.
Sure, there are some pretty crappy schools in California. There are
crappy schools all over the country. Some of them are even private
schools, if you can imagine. But there are just as many that are good
and even great.
>We grew up in New York, and
>there's something terribly important about seasonal changes, about your not being
>the biggest thing--your activities and choices are going to be made for you by
>this earth.
This is a lesson that I hope can be taught even in CA. Not the seasonal
changes, here in the southern part of the state! but the "not being the
biggest thing" is possible to learn.
But what do I know?
Jen
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"Jen (is not a potato)" <jenn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4gvdfuc5ffcpeqorc...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 30 May 2002 21:00:11 -0400, the pandering Anna
> <santo....@sympatico.ca> fawned:
>
>
> >http://leonionline.com/articles/movieline2000.htm
> >
> >Q: You went to a number of privileged schools. Will you put your children
in
> >private or public schools?
> >A: Given the state of California public schools, I'd put them in private
schools.
> >We can afford it. I'm not going to play with my child's mind or education
to make
> >some sort of political statement. I think David and I will probably move
back to
> >New York to get access to certain schools. I can't imagine sticking my
daughter
> >in a car on the Pacific Coast Highway, the most dangerous highway in
America,
> >twice a day for umpteen years to get to a school.
>
> This kind of statement horrifies me.
IAWTP. The kind of education her kids get depends heavily upon how much
effort she as a parent puts in, and this kind of statement leads me to
believe that Leoni doesn't want to bother much if she doesn't have to.
Hey Jen, what University are you at?
Katie
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Jen (is not a potato)
<klo...@uclink.berkeley.edu> fawned:
>IAWTP. The kind of education her kids get depends heavily upon how much
>effort she as a parent puts in, and this kind of statement leads me to
>believe that Leoni doesn't want to bother much if she doesn't have to.
Yeah! Well, I wouldn't say that Tea doesn't want to bother. Rather,
she doesn't fully understand her responsibilities in raising her kids.
>Hey Jen, what University are you at?
Umm... a public one in SoCal. But I can't tell you which one because I
fear stalkers and identity theft. I can't afford private security or
big gates or a driver, so I mustn't tell. Yeah. And no phoning my
office, either!
Dr. Jen
Kipler
schools.
We can afford it. I'm not going to play with my child's mind or education to
make
some sort of political statement. >>
And that's one of the gigantic problems that public schools face: people with
money and political clout take their kids OUT, so they have no investment in
making sure the public schools are well-supported. Then they further the gap
by making statements like this, implying that the public schools are beyond
hope, when in reality most of them are doing pretty well, thank you very much.
(I wonder if Tea and DD even know anyone who's got their kids in public
schools?) But never mind; I'll pretend that Tea and DD are going to donate
generously so that kids who are less privileged than theirs can get an
education, too.
<< there's something terribly important about seasonal changes, about your not
being the biggest thing... >>
THAT was the thing that struck me most last time I was in LA, and happened to
be with people who worked in various levels in the entertainment industry: the
perception that the entertainment industry is not only the real world, but that
it's the biggest thing. I really wanted to shake some people and say, "But you
all do know that this is just TV you're making, right? It's like... what the
rest of us do while we're waiting for our friends to pick us up so we can go
out and do something REAL"
Everyone's guilty of being caught up in their own little lives, but I do think
that the culture that surrounds people in the entertainment industry -
especially the stars - is artificial in that it constantly tells stars that
they're Very Important and Very Special. No one in other industries gets this
constant butt-kissing, so it's rare that, say, teachers or meat packers begin
to see themselves as the Biggest Thing. I "get" that while my job is important
to me, no one outside my little circle really gives a damn what I'm doing. I'm
not sure it's possible for a TV star to have that humbling yet freeing
awareness.
So, while I know that the Hollywood side of SoCal doesn't represent SoCal in
general, I do think that Tea's right in thinking that there's a definite
narcissism bred in her particular part of SoCal. She and David won't be the
first Hollywood people to take their kids out of that climate in the hopes that
they'll get a better grasp on the real world. OTOH, the non-Hollywood types in
LA are probably groaningbecause Tea is so much a part of the "star" culture
that she doesn't even get that it's a not THE culture of LA. <g>
--Kipler
Alan Hurshman
> On Thu, 30 May 2002 21:00:11 -0400, the pandering Anna
in
> >private or public schools?
> >A: Given the state of California public schools, I'd put them in private
schools.
> >We can afford it. I'm not going to play with my child's mind or education
to make
> >some sort of political statement. I think David and I will probably move
back to
> >New York to get access to certain schools. I can't imagine sticking my
daughter
> >in a car on the Pacific Coast Highway, the most dangerous highway in
America,
> >twice a day for umpteen years to get to a school.
>
> This kind of statement horrifies me. What does Tea Leoni know about CA
> public schools? Probably only what she sees/reads in the media.
I suspect she only knows what her rich spoiled
friends tell her. "What, little Billie would actually
have to carry his own books if he went to public
school. Oh, the horror!"
> Sure, there are some pretty crappy schools in California. There are
> crappy schools all over the country. Some of them are even private
> schools, if you can imagine. But there are just as many that are good
> and even great.
And some of those private schools are right now having
to deal with alleagtions of sexual abuse that various churches
have had to confront over that last decade. In Canada the
top private school has been trying to cover up what went
on inside its walls for over a decade.
Alan Hurshman
> > I smooshed a tree stump today. Does that count?
> > > Smooshed? You make it sound so easy.
> > It was easy--the treee has been cut down for ten years, the stump
> > was pithy and rotten.
> for 10 years .......
Letting stumps rot in the ground is good for the land.
So if you don't feel like pulling them out just get
yourself a Sahara Club t-shirt.
W. Blaine Dowler
> Er. . .well, why not just keep quiet about the whole thing? Stalkers
> spend their lives second-guessing and pursuing their targets--why
> give them any fodder?
If you move without telling them, they can find out your forwarding
address after you've gone. If you say you're moving to city X, but
really move to city Y, then they might try to go to city X with you and
waste time trying to track you down when you're not there. Thus, if
they had chosen to follow you, you get a brief reprieve that will
hopefully do enough damage to their savings that they may not be able
to keep following you.
--
- Blaine
W. Blaine Dowler
> What does Tea Leoni know about CA
> public schools? Probably only what she sees/reads in the media.
She's probably also basing this decision on what she's heard from
friends who send their kids to local schools.
W. Blaine Dowler
> Well, then how are you informed enough to discuss the meta-story?
> Hmm?
Someone said they didn't have proof. I chimed in to say that I don't
have proof, but that it sounded reasonable given her publically
expressed attitudes about Piper having the most normal childhood she
could possible have.
Jen (is not a potato)
<alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> fawned:
>I suspect she only knows what her rich spoiled
>friends tell her. "What, little Billie would actually
>have to carry his own books if he went to public
>school. Oh, the horror!"
Not in California. At least, not for long. There's a bill in the
assembly now to limit the weight of kids' textbooks so the poor little
dears won't become all bent from their backpacks.
Jen (is not a potato)
<fiz...@bureau42.com> fawned:
>Jen (is not a potato) wrote:
>
>> What does Tea Leoni know about CA
>> public schools? Probably only what she sees/reads in the media.
>
>She's probably also basing this decision on what she's heard from
>friends who send their kids to local schools.
If you ever read surveys of how parents feel about schools (I think Phi
Kappan puts one out in the US every year), you'll learn that they
generally give good marks to their own child's school and think that
schools in general are bad.
Of course, badmouthing schools and teachers is very fashionable. You
may be right.
W. Blaine Dowler
> Didn't read my sig, did you?
I did. I answered just in case anybody was wondering.
Jen (is not a potato)
fawned:
><< there's something terribly important about seasonal changes, about your not
>being the biggest thing... >>
>
>THAT was the thing that struck me most last time I was in LA, and happened to
>be with people who worked in various levels in the entertainment industry: the
>perception that the entertainment industry is not only the real world, but that
>it's the biggest thing. I really wanted to shake some people and say, "But you
>all do know that this is just TV you're making, right? It's like... what the
>rest of us do while we're waiting for our friends to pick us up so we can go
>out and do something REAL"
Ooo! I love this! I wish you had said it to these entertainment types.
Which is just a long way of saying, "IAWTP"
W. Blaine Dowler
> Of course, badmouthing schools and teachers is very fashionable. You
> may be right.
It depends on your perspective, too. A friend of mine was substituting
at a school that is basically a High School for the arts. You have to
pass an audition to attend the school. They get nothing but raves for
their drama, writing, and choral programs. They've got courses on
production and editing, too, with some students doing work at a local
TV station. Students who graduate from this school tend to do very
well in their chosen careers, and the school is highly regarded in
general.
The problems come in because my friend wasn't teaching these courses,
she was teaching chemistry. The students and staff didn't care about
that course. Two students were upset that they weren't allowed to hand
in chem labs two days after the other students' marked labs had already
been returned. My friend was told by staff that the normal teacher
allows this, as do the math, physics and bio teachers. She had a class
average of 70% in her two weeks there, and was reamed out by the
principal for this because the normal class average was 75%. The
principal backed off when my friend showed her the marking records.
The average mark on assignments that had been handed in was over 95%,
but the students just weren't handing them in because she was a sub.
This is something that you don't normally hear about. That school is
fantastic at the arts, but it's absolutely terrible at anything that
wasn't related to the arts. A large part of the problem was the
attitude of the staff toward the other subjects, in that they didn't
really bother with them because the students had, in essence, already
decided on their careers. (A fair number of these students get a rude
awakening when they hit the science requirements at University.)
So, the parents of students at this school would say it's great because
it does a fantastic job of the areas it's chosen to focus on. I'd say
it has serious problems because the students graduating are not up to
speed in some subjects. There are standardized tests in the province
worth 50% of your grade 12 mark, which helps, but when the teachers are
told to keep the class average high (~75%) so that the students can
bomb the final and still pass, they're not helping the students at all.
The class averages, I've been told, are generally in the 50s after the
standardized tests, so these students are getting somewhere in the 30s
on the standard tests and are still being passed.
Sorry, for the rant, but I consider this to be a problem.
Alan Hurshman
> On Fri, 31 May 2002 07:08:21 -0300, the pandering "Alan Hurshman"
> >friends tell her. "What, little Billie would actually
> >have to carry his own books if he went to public
> >school. Oh, the horror!"
> Not in California. At least, not for long. There's a bill in the
> assembly now to limit the weight of kids' textbooks so the poor little
> dears won't become all bent from their backpacks.
Wimps. Hell, in my day we didn't even use
backbacks. We wuz tough.
DonChep
> >
> > LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
>
> (1) New York is "normal"? Let me tell you the most normal place either
> of them have ever lived - Vancouver. If they want to move to
> Bakersfield, CA, or Charlotte, NC, or Ft. Worth Texas, then we'll talk
> 'normal.'
Yikes I'm from Bakersfield, Ca...I'm normal?:)
DonChep
>
> "Alan Hurshman" <alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:acuc9v$rrasa$1...@ID-118774.news.dfncis.de...
> > From IMDB:
> >
> > Stunning actress Téa Leoni has lashed out at
> > spoiled rich kids in Hollywood. The sexy star,
> > who is married to actor David Duchovny is sick
> > of Los Angeles, and doesn't want to raise her
> > children there. She says, "David and I have been
> > talking about returning to New York because we
> > don't want to raise our children in L.A. Something
> > is missing there. We'd feel better if they could grow
> > up around normal kids, not just around a bunch of
> > rich Hollywood kids."
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > LOL! I thought LA was HOME for DD?
> >
> > --
>
> And there aren't spoiled rich kids in NY?????? That's funny. Like she and
> David would live in Brooklyn or something!
Ok the key word is Hollywood. We're talking ridiculously spoiled Beverly
Hills Brats, etc. It's a whole differeent bredd from the privileged kids
in other places like Boston or NY. It's a whole created culture that has
in it the Drew Barryomores, Charlie Sheens, and anyone else who grew up in
Hollywood. I think that's a lot different from the rich kids who grew up
anywhere else.
I grew up in SoCal and have been to Bel Air..Beverly Hills..the homes
of the spoiled hollywood kids. It's not a place yopu want to raise kids at
all.
Sending your kids to private school has nothing to do with them being
spoiled..it's the atmosphere of Hollywood and its love for excess that
does that.
Rstetradio
>Letting stumps rot in the ground is good for the land.
>So if you don't feel like pulling them out just get
>yourself a Sahara Club t-shirt.
I think you mean SIERRA club, Alan. Sahara Club is where Osama goes to work on
his golf slice.
Rstetradio
>Leaving Malibu will be harder on DD than Tea . Read Tea loves the cold and
>rain
>and DD really doesn't.
LOL...Dave could always move back to his beloved Vancouver.
Rstetradio
>Yes I doubt you have anything to say about college, at least not from
>first-hand experience.
Thus spake the Professor Inflammitus Emeritus from her padded cell.
Tara
<jenn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 31 May 2002 07:08:21 -0300, the pandering "Alan Hurshman"
><alanhu...@hfx.eastlink.ca> fawned:
>
>>I suspect she only knows what her rich spoiled
>>friends tell her. "What, little Billie would actually
>>have to carry his own books if he went to public
>>school. Oh, the horror!"
>
>Not in California. At least, not for long. There's a bill in the
>assembly now to limit the weight of kids' textbooks so the poor little
>dears won't become all bent from their backpacks.
Have you ever tried to lift a child's backpack?
Tara-----Super!Bitch
Rstetradio
>PTBNL...PTBNL....what the heck is that? Their child yet to be born named Pat
>the Bare Naked Lady?
try Player To Be Named Later, courtesy of Kim.
W. Blaine Dowler
> Have you ever tried to lift a child's backpack?
Mine topped off at 47 pounds when I tried carrying my textbooks in my
first year of University. Junior High and High School loads would have
been comparable, if I had been forced to carry them all at once.
KatieMoo
> On Thu, 30 May 2002 22:38:14 -0700, the pandering "KatieMoo"
> <klo...@uclink.berkeley.edu> fawned:
>
> Umm... a public one in SoCal. But I can't tell you which one because I
> fear stalkers and identity theft. I can't afford private security or
> big gates or a driver, so I mustn't tell. Yeah. And no phoning my
> office, either!
I'll poison your dogs!
> Dr. Jen
Oh. Well, there you go.