Laurie Holden
ALFORNOS
Laurie Holden
Carrey co-star antidote to holiday blues
By ANNA DAVID
HOMETOWN: Born in Los Angeles, raised in Toronto
FAVORITE ACTORS: Susan Sarandon, Vanessa Redgrave, Judy Davis, Meryl Streep,
Gena Rowlands, Al Pacino, Kevin Spacey and "all those great British actors"
NEXT PROJECT: Right now she's meeting with execs and reading scripts "trying to
get a sense of what would be a great next gig."
WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS?: "I hope I'm married to the love of my
life with a beautiful family and doing what I love, which is acting. I would
love to be doing plays and working on quality films."
WHY DID YOU BECOME AN ACTOR?: "I love storytelling and love being part of
something that can move people: move them to laugh, to cry. The power of what
we do, whether it's theater or film, can change lives."
When Laurie Holden was only 6 she worked alongside one of Hollywood's leading
men, Rock Hudson, portraying his daughter in "The Martian Chronicles."
Today, Holden again finds herself opposite one of the screen's biggest stars:
She plays Jim Carrey's girlfriend in Warner Bros.' highly anticipated pic "The
Majestic." The film, due Dec. 21, is director Frank Darabont's follow-up to
"The Green Mile."
"The fact that she's a lawyer speaks volumes about her character," insists
Holden about the role she essays in the 1951-set pic. "It was a vocation so
latent with discrimination (back then) that only a handful of women were even
admitted into law programs."
Of course, Holden manages to bring out what she calls the woman's lighthearted,
tenacious and free-spirited sides as well.
"She's a crusader but in many ways, she's the girl next-door. She sort of
represents the best of America," Holden says of her character, adding, "It's a
very Capraesque film."
The actress came to Darabont's attention via Anna Garduno, president of
production of Darabont's Darkwoods Prods., and acting coach Larry Moss, who
works regularly with Holden in an acting workshop.
Not only did Holden end up landing the part but Carrey enlisted Moss' help for
his performance as well.
"It was all very serendipitous," Holden says.
These days, Holden, who many TV viewers will know as U.N. informant Marita
Covarrubias on "The X-Files," is logging time until "Majestic" comes out.
"I think I need to just sit in a movie theater to grasp the fact that I just
starred in a movie because it hasn't quite hit me," she says
Holden is weighing the opportunities that are out there for her, and that will
likely increase once the film is released.
"'The Majestic' opened a floodgate of doors," she says. "I've had a lot of
wonderful meetings but I haven't committed to anything yet."
As far as fame is concerned, Holden's already had a taste of what a very
attentive fan base can do.
"When I first started on 'The X-Files,' some people were worried that I was
going to somehow intervene between Mulder and Scully," Holden says with a
laugh. "The Internet fans can get quite vicious."
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Michael Walsh
ALFORNOS wrote:
> Laurie Holden is featured in Variety's annual 10 to Watch tribute.
>
> Laurie Holden
> Carrey co-star antidote to holiday blues
>
> By ANNA DAVID
>
(Snip)
> Today, Holden again finds herself opposite one of the screen's biggest stars:
> She plays Jim Carrey's girlfriend in Warner Bros.' highly anticipated pic "The
> Majestic." The film, due Dec. 21, is director Frank Darabont's follow-up to
> "The Green Mile."
>
>
> "It was all very serendipitous," Holden says.
>
> These days, Holden, who many TV viewers will know as U.N. informant Marita
> Covarrubias on "The X-Files," is logging time until "Majestic" comes out.
>
> "I think I need to just sit in a movie theater to grasp the fact that I just
> starred in a movie because it hasn't quite hit me," she says
>
> Holden is weighing the opportunities that are out there for her, and that will
> likely increase once the film is released.
>
> "'The Majestic' opened a floodgate of doors," she says. "I've had a lot of
> wonderful meetings but I haven't committed to anything yet."
Does this mean that we may never see Marita Covarrubias on "The X-Files"
again? That she might either lack availability or have become too expensive
if "The X-Files" starts doing some penny pinching.
> As far as fame is concerned, Holden's already had a taste of what a very
> attentive fan base can do.
>
> "When I first started on 'The X-Files,' some people were worried that I was
> going to somehow intervene between Mulder and Scully," Holden says with a
> laugh. "The Internet fans can get quite vicious."
She is correct and she is talking about some of us in
alt.tv.x-files and alt.tv.x-files.analysis
I don't think the anti-Marita spiels ever reached the level of some of
the other hate mail.
The lowest level was reached by those who seemed disappointed
that David Duchovny had ruined their fantasy lives by marrying
Tea Leoni.
Mike Walsh
XXXXgizzieXXXX
"Michael Walsh" <mp1w...@home.com> wrote
> The lowest level was reached by those who seemed disappointed
> that David Duchovny had ruined their fantasy lives by marrying
> Tea Leoni.
IMO, the Robert Patrick haters are just as bad.
XXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXX
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pam
> "Michael Walsh" <mp1w...@home.com> wrote
> > The lowest level was reached by those who seemed disappointed
> > that David Duchovny had ruined their fantasy lives by marrying
> > Tea Leoni.
... whether they are women who hate Tea for marrying their
Fantasy!David or men (such as some ATXFers) who hate David
for marrying their Fantasy!Tea. Or people who hate David
and/or Tea for "ruining" XF by single-handedly "forcing"
it to move to Los Angeles.
> IMO, the Robert Patrick haters are just as bad.
Just as bad as the David haters and the Gillian haters have
been for *years*. I have little patience for anyone who
rails against RP bashing while continuing to engage in
David-bashing (or Gillian-bashing, or Nick-bashing) themselves.
Of course, the one thing almost everyone can probably agree on
is that Snoggers are the worst, since they manage to behave
hatefully towards David, Gillian, Tea, Clyde Klotz, Piper,
*and* West all at once. (;-P
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>XXXXgizzieXXXX wrote:
>
>> IMO, the Robert Patrick haters are just as bad.
>
>Just as bad as the David haters and the Gillian haters have
>been for *years*. I have little patience for anyone who
>rails against RP bashing while continuing to engage in
>David-bashing (or Gillian-bashing, or Nick-bashing) themselves.
>
>
>
hypocrisy. I also find the people who lash out at the anti-S8 crowd while
pissing and moaning about how bad S6 and/or S7 were to be a pretty humorous
bunch as well.
Unbound I
Unbound I
>
>As far as fame is concerned, Holden's already had a taste of what a very
>attentive fan base can do.
>
>"When I first started on 'The X-Files,' some people were worried that I was
>going to somehow intervene between Mulder and Scully," Holden says with a
>laugh. "The Internet fans can get quite vicious."
>
>
>
part too--underdeveloped though she was <g>
Unbound I
Michael Walsh
pam wrote:
I maintain the view that some of the Tea Leoni bashers were the
worst both because they went to such great lengths to be defamatory
toward her and the posts had relevance only to Duchovny's personal
life, not to "The X-Files". People who claimed about Tea's performance
in the "AD Hollywood" episode are not the subject of my comment.
That would be legitimate remarks on an X-Files episode.
What are "Snoggers"?
Mike Walsh
Konrad Douglas Frye
>What are "Snoggers"?
I take it you haven't had the misfortune of reading their
manifesto. Believe me, you're better off not knowing.
------
Konrad Frye (k f r y e @ e s c a p e . c a)
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"Or what? You'll release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with the
bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?"
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Michael Walsh
Konrad Douglas Frye wrote:
> In <3BBE1EA4...@home.com> Michael Walsh <mp1w...@home.com> writes:
>
> >What are "Snoggers"?
>
> I take it you haven't had the misfortune of reading their
> manifesto. Believe me, you're better off not knowing.
>
> ------
> Konrad Frye (k f r y e @ e s c a p e . c a)
>
OK, I believe you.
Mike Walsh
Bast Black
> The lowest level was reached by those who seemed disappointed
> that David Duchovny had ruined their fantasy lives by marrying
> Tea Leoni.
XXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXX wrote:
>IMO, the Robert Patrick haters are just as bad.
I agree.
bB,
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World Trade Center or the Pentagon, please contact the FBI at:
http://www.ifccfbi.gov
pam
> What are "Snoggers"?
Those who believe that DD & GA have been and/or are
deeply in luuuuuuuuuvvvv.
As I understand it, the bare bones are:
-- DD and GA had an affair at the beginning of TXF,
resulting in her illegitimate pregnancy
-- Since DD & GA were either contractually or implicitly
forbidden by FOX to marry, GA entered into a loveless marriage
with Clyde Klotz to cover up her illegitimate pregnancy
-- Piper is really DD's child
-- TL is an evil manipulative talentless bitch who trapped
the hapless DD into a loveless marriage, then trapped him
into staying in that marriage by getting pregnant with
her demon spawn, West (who may or may not be DD's child)
-- TL is an evil manipulative talentless jealous bitch who
forced DD to force CC to move TXF from Vancouver to LA
purely out of spite, in order to cruelly tear GA away from
the city she loved and tear Piper away from the only home
she had ever known.
Either:
-- DD & GA have both been pining for each other all
this time, and DD can't wait until the day when he can
finally divorce Tea and be reunited with GA & Piper.
or:
-- GA has been unrequitedly pining for DD all this time,
while he is either a heartless callous cad who cruelly
abandoned her & Piper for TL & West, *or* he is a
weak-minded, spineless twit who has been brainwashed by
TL into believing that he loves TL & West instead of GA &
Piper. When he finally comes to his senses, he'll divorce
TL & her demon spawn and be reunited with GA & Piper.
Special Bonus: some Snoggers believe that West is *also*
actually DD & GA's child, but that DD & TL are trying to
pretend that she is theirs so as to lend legitimacy to their
sham marriage. As soon as DD & GA are finally free to wed,
DD will divorce TL and take Piper with him, and he & GA
& Piper & West will be reunited as one big happy family.
There is much more, but those seem to be the basics.
Northdue
West.
What a funny name for a girl.
[Why not North, South or East?! <g>]
I thought her name was Madelaine...??
Julie
Julie
Michele Jackson
"pam" <ptpl...@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
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> There is much more, but those seem to be the basics.
>
Thanks for the Snoggers recap. Let me admit that I liked the Naked Truth so
much that I followed it from ABC when it got canceled. Since then, however,
I have made no attempt to watch TL in anything. I think I actually avoided
"Family Man." What's changed between now and then? Coincidence or
something much darker? Hmmm.
In all fairness, I think people who constantly disparage DD, GA and RP, the
more fully-fleshed leads, should be separated from those who complain about
the rest of the cast.
Even when it comes to Mimi, there are OBJECTIVE reasons to hate her
character, the rendition of that character, the character's wrongdoing, or
the limited, misguided use that 1013 put that character to. Not all of the
criticism of Diana, Krycek, CSM, Skinner or Marita is simply blind
resentment of people (played by Emmy-worthy performers) who might come
between Scully and Mulder. Some of it is just hatred, pure and simple, but
you know -- I was as glad to see her in Requiem as anyone, still I can't say
that Laurie didn't lisp on occasion. Michele
XXXXgizzieXXXX
> Even when it comes to Mimi, there are OBJECTIVE reasons to hate her
> character, the rendition of that character, the character's
wrongdoing, or
> the limited, misguided use that 1013 put that character to.
Hating characters and hating the people who portray them are two
different things.
One is based in reality, one in fantasy, IMO.
Also IMO, the emotions love and hate should only be applied to
people you actually
**know**.
XXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXX
(who really doesn't "love" ANY celebrity)
Michael Walsh
pam wrote:
> Michael Walsh wrote:
> > What are "Snoggers"?
>
> Those who believe that DD & GA have been and/or are
> deeply in luuuuuuuuuvvvv.
Well, I probably was just as well off not knowing all of this
but it certainly is weird
Mike Walsh
Michael Walsh
Michele Jackson wrote:
I did like Mimi Rogers as Diana and thought that Diana got dumped a bit
prematurely.
However, while I disagree with some of the comments about characters I
feel that it is quite appropriate to comment on their place in the show and
whether you like the way the portray them or not.
What I object to is when the commentary spills over into bile about the
individual's personal lives.
It is quite proper to comment when the actor or actress makes some
comment about fans or the show, but some of the personal remarks go
well beyond the limits of fairness.
I believe that a lot of fans did take offense at any woman character they
saw as an interference between Scully and Mulder. I noticed the comments
about Marita got a lot more friendly when she was both seen as tied up
with Krycek and sick from "black oil".
Marita was not only no longer a threat to the Mulder-Scully relationship,
but in quite a few ways her character became more interesting.
Mike Walsh
Michele Jackson
"XXXXgizzieXXXX" <xxgiz...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > Even when it comes to Mimi, there are OBJECTIVE reasons to hate her
> > character, the rendition of that character, the character's
> wrongdoing, or
> > the limited, misguided use that 1013 put that character to.
>
> Hating characters and hating the people who portray them are two
> different things.
> One is based in reality, one in fantasy, IMO.
>
> Also IMO, the emotions love and hate should only be applied to
> people you actually
> **know**.
>
> XXXXXXXgizzieXXXXXXX
> (who really doesn't "love" ANY celebrity)
Yeah, but sometimes you can hate something the actress did with the
character, more than you hate the character. I mean, what's that actress
from "Suddenly Susan?" Is her name Kathy Griffin? Well, I can tell you I
hate her based on "Fight Club," (and I don't hate Fight Club, as a whole,
the way most do). Haven't seen her anywhere else. If I do I may love her
(like I hated Jeremy Irons in "Ideal Husband" and then fell madly in love
with him in "The Winslow Boy"), but right now the idea of her disgusts me,
might keep me from tuning in to a tv show or seeing a movie with her in it.
Might not be fair, but that's the reaction her small XF character inspired
and -- I don't think it was just the character, obnoxious though the
character was supposed to be. I think it was the way the ACTRESS portrayed
the character. Performers can have looks, little mannerisms, quirks, and
ticks that drive you absolutely crazy. Those things can make you dislike
their character, just as easily as hating a character can make you dislike
the actor.
I don't think that when people say they "love" or "hate celebrities that
they mean it in a literal sense. Not most people anyway, but yeah the
people on the XF news groups may simply be extremists. Generally, you can
love and hate family and friends in a different way than you love and hate
celebrities, which is still different from the way you love and hate ice
cream.
Basically, if people are going around saying Mimi is a horrible actress and
looks old, I think that can conceivably be in the realm of criticism
legitimately inspired by TXF episodes (while people writing about Someone To
Watch Over Me would have their own unique praise or criticism for the same
person). If they're going around saying stuff like "boy, Tom Cruise was
right to dump her," just because they're jealous because DF held Mulder's
hand -- well, yeah that's absurd. Michele
Michele Jackson
"Michele Jackson" <MJAC...@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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Haven't seen her anywhere else. If I do I may love her
> (like I hated Jeremy Irons in "Ideal Husband" and then fell madly in love
> with him in "The Winslow Boy"),
Should be Northam. Michele
Michele Jackson
"Michael Walsh" <mp1w...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> What I object to is when the commentary spills over into bile about the
> individual's personal lives.
I can understand this. If the criticism is personal, based on tabloid
fodder that may or may not even be based on truth . . . That's nonsense.
And if people are talking about who is sleeping with whom and this kind of
thing, then it's clear that the venom is not based on anything presented by
1013.
>
> I believe that a lot of fans did take offense at any woman character they
> saw as an interference between Scully and Mulder. I noticed the comments
> about Marita got a lot more friendly when she was both seen as tied up
> with Krycek and sick from "black oil".
What I don't know about is the conclusion concerning what actually inspired
most negative comments about Marita. I mean, since Mulder never paid half
as much attention to Marita over several years as he did to Bambi in one
episode (and Bambi never had him in her hotel room, while dressed in a
robe), I would find it hard to understand MSR fans being jealous of her.
So, when people started calling her the Uniblonder, I didn't assume it was
jealousy and insecurity at work -- though I'm sure in some cases it well
might have been.
>
> Marita was not only no longer a threat to the Mulder-Scully relationship,
> but in quite a few ways her character became more interesting.
>
> Mike Walsh
>
Well, you see, you gave an unbiased reason for why the criticism might have
lessened: the character became more interesting. Maybe lots of people
complained about her because they considered the character weak, if not
silly. You know, I honestly had no idea that Jeffrey Spender might have
been introduced as a replacement for Mulder. Never occurred to me, because
I didn't read back stage news, contract comings and goings or anything like
that. So, I never imagined that Young Spender would ever usurp Mulder.
Didn't know what negotiations were with DD. Never had anything to do with
the reason I found the Jeffrey character insipid. You know, with the
recurring characters, it's just hard for me to pinpoint the motives behind
critical posts. So, I don't even try, because the supporting characters
often have so little definition and are used as tools rather than given 3
dimensions. The way they're written gives audiences plenty of legit reason
to attack.
With the leads though -- they have the chance to exhibit range. Their
characters have so many hills and valleys . . . that if they're disliked
week in and week out, with nary a complimentary word EVER coming from some
factions -- well, then I think it's safer to assume there's something
sinister at work. Doggett, for instance, has hardly been the same in every
episode. He's been tender; he's been callous. He's been scared. He's been
stoic. He's been confused. He's been over-confident. If you dislike him in
every single episode, as different as he's been in each -- then yeah, I
don't think it's really Doggett that you've got a problem with. I think its
especially funny when people claim to REALLY hate a character this year --
when they've ostensibly hated him/her for the last 8 years, judging from
their posts. But this year, to prove how far the show has sunk, they claim
they REALLY can't stand them. If you've repeatedly said you haven't liked
Scully since S2, how can you possibly like her any less in S8 than you have
for the five years preceding? You must ration your comparative adjectives.
When you exhausted your negative superlatives in 1997 or 1998, you can't go
and retract them, just for the purpose of using them over again today:
"well, I said I despised her before, but this time I really, really, really
mean it." Michele
Jerry Wayne Cox
> Michael Walsh wrote:
> > What are "Snoggers"?
>
> Those who believe that DD & GA have been and/or are
> deeply in luuuuuuuuuvvvv.
>
> As I understand it, the bare bones are:
<snip the description of these bottom feeders>
I have seen The Xx-Files from the beginning but I only been on the
Internet for almost two years. When I saw the "Pilot", I said that
these two people (actors) should be married because I had never seen
such chemistry between two people on TV in more years than I care to
remember. So when I heard that Gillian was pregnant, I said 'Yes they
are married in real life'. I believed that for six years because I had
not heard that her husband was Clyde Klotz throughout those six years.
Sorta tells ya what I think about the TV shows that were on then. I'm
glad I didn't have Smellavision. There were only a few shows that were
worthy of watching and I didn't get any hint from the times that I tuned
into Entertainment Tonight. Imagine the let-down when I finally got
online and went to GAWS and saw her bio. Now I am not one of these
bottom-feeders by any means but I have seen and know of quite a few
married couples that have less chemistry than Gillian and David. I've
said before that these two are magic onscreen and ANY movie, romantic or
not but especially romantic, would be instantly Oscar material not to
mention the money the movie would make. Gillian was asked once how she
cries so easily on The X-Files especially in episodes like "DeadAlive",
and she said that she couldn't 'cry on demand' but she said that all she
had to do was put herself in Scully's shoes and the tears come pouring
out. Some may say that's good acting and it is but it also has true
emotions behind those tears. It's one reason why David and Gillian have
brought the characters of Mulder and Scully to life and are as
believable as any real people walking around in the real world. They
belong together because David brings out the best in Gillian and Gillian
brings out the best in David. They respect each other as real-life
persons, friends, actors, writers, and directors; and in the end isn't
that the true basics for love. Imagine Gillian in Return to Me instead
of Mimi Driver and you'll know what I mean.
Jerry W. Cox
Jerry Wayne Cox
>
> I did like Mimi Rogers as Diana and thought that Diana got dumped a bit
> prematurely.
>
> Mike Walsh
Mimi Rogers is a fine actress and I will not vilify her, but Diana was a throwaway
character just to threaten Mulder and Scully's relationship. Diana was that woman
in Mulder's life would could maybe come between Mulder and Scully and steal Mulder
away from Scully. As such she was expendable which was really a shame. It was
necessary for Diana to die, but if Mimi had come into Mulder's life as just
another female FBI friend that would have been fine and she might not have had to
die.
Jerry W. Cox
Northdue
>are married in real life'. I believed that for six years because I had
>not heard that her husband was Clyde Klotz throughout those six years.
Does anyone know the date Gillian got married?
Was she pregnant when she got married? Somewhere I read that she was, but that
was just because I read she met her husband in the first Season of the XF [I
did see her in a TV interview say he didn't work on the Pilot] and she was
pregnant by the end of that season.
I know they were only married for two years, but I've never seen any date given
for when she got married.
She seems to have met him, married him and got pregnant within a few months of
each other.
If, as I also read, the marriage lasted from 94 - 96, and Piper was born in
September 94 .. then the implication was that she was pregnant when she got
married.
But can you believe what you read as 'facts' anyway?!
I've no idea, and it's not important either, I'm just curious to know if anyone
knows the date, because I've never seen it anywhere.
Julie
Laurie Land Website Manager
> "pam" <ptpl...@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:3BC0C227...@NOSPAMmindspring.com...
>
> more fully-fleshed leads, should be separated from those who complain about
> the rest of the cast.
> criticism of Diana, Krycek, CSM, Skinner or Marita is simply blind
> resentment of people (played by Emmy-worthy performers) who might come
Laurie, I believe, is referring in part to the Marita Covarrubias
Hangwoman Game which she has found. Not a particularly nice thing to
see if you are the actress playing the character.
Website Manager
Laurie Land - A Laurie Holden Website
Extex1013
>actually DD & GA's child, but that DD & TL are trying to
>pretend that she is theirs so as to lend legitimacy to their
>sham marriage.
Thats scarier than anything written by Dean Koontz
extex
Michael Walsh
Jerry Wayne Cox wrote:
> Michael Walsh wrote:
>
> >
> > I did like Mimi Rogers as Diana and thought that Diana got dumped a bit
> > prematurely.
> >
> > Mike Walsh
>
> Mimi Rogers is a fine actress and I will not vilify her, but Diana was a throwaway
> character just to threaten Mulder and Scully's relationship. Diana was that woman
> in Mulder's life would could maybe come between Mulder and Scully and steal Mulder
> away from Scully.
Yes, and I liked that part of the story line. Some people didn't, but I don't
believe true love should ever run smooth in fiction.
> As such she was expendable which was really a shame. It was
> necessary for Diana to die,
I thought that it was inherent in the story line that Diana had to die, but
she was killed off-stage in a rather perfunctory manner. She also showed
a last minute change of heart that did not quite ring true to me.
> but if Mimi had come into Mulder's life as just
> another female FBI friend that would have been fine and she might not have had to
> die.
My viewpoint was that she had to die because she was in deep with CSM and
I expected her character to end up as deep-died evil.
Is the only way Mulder can be trusted is to have any competition for Scully
dispatched? Why couldn't he just reject Diana and choose Scully?
So much for possible alternative plot lines.
Mike Walsh
Unbound I
>
>Jerry Wayne Cox wrote:
>
>> Mimi Rogers is a fine actress and I will not vilify her, but Diana was a
>throwaway
>> character just to threaten Mulder and Scully's relationship. Diana was
>that woman
>> in Mulder's life would could maybe come between Mulder and Scully and steal
>Mulder
>> away from Scully.
>
>Yes, and I liked that part of the story line. Some people didn't, but I
>don't
>believe true love should ever run smooth in fiction.
>
>> As such she was expendable which was really a shame. It was
>> necessary for Diana to die,
>
>I thought that it was inherent in the story line that Diana had to die, but
>she was killed off-stage in a rather perfunctory manner. She also showed
>a last minute change of heart that did not quite ring true to me.
>
>
>
actually agree on something <g>
Unbound I
Magpie
> >> As such she was expendable which was really a shame. It was
> >> necessary for Diana to die,
> >
> >I thought that it was inherent in the story line that Diana had to die, but
> >she was killed off-stage in a rather perfunctory manner. She also showed
> >a last minute change of heart that did not quite ring true to me.
> >
> >
> >
> Hey, did the earth just stop spinning or something cuz Michael and I
> actually agree on something <g>
Possibly.
DF seemed to suffer the same fate as other secondary characters.
She treaded water for so long to make sure nothing happened between
M&S...but also do things that might make it seem like something
could happen between them. She only got interesting when they
were building her up to get rid of her, just like Spender. Krycek
was almost lucky that he was always used to some purpose because
he at least was always doing something. Unfortunately in the
end it became clear nothing he did added up.
So far, I've had problems with plenty of XF characters at times
but the only one I may end up just disliking everytime she
appears on screen is Reyes. I've never understood the wild
hatred characters like Spender and Fowley and Doggett have
inspired since you'd think we'd have learned by now that
the show's MO is to make sure no character does anything to
rock the boat so much it can't be taken back. Of course,
there's always the poor souls who don't quite seem to grasp
these ARE fictional characters, that DD is not Mulder and
therefore probably not threatened by Doggett taking Mulder's
job; and for god's sakes, that DD & GA working well together
as actors does not make them lovers, best friends or two
people who should be lovers or best friends. Honestly, how
can anybody in today's media-savvy world who isn't crazy think
two actors are in love or would "make a good couple" because
you see them play fictional characters together an hour a
week? So pathetic. I guess you could say the same thing
about DD&RP--look at how mad Mulder was at Doggett in that
one scene? Actors couldn't possibly pretend to be angry
unless they really hated each other.
-m
Michele Jackson
"Magpie" <bel...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3BC236...@attglobal.net...
> I guess you could say the same thing
> about DD&RP
Yeah.
>--look at how mad Mulder was at Doggett in that
> one scene? Actors couldn't possibly pretend to be angry
> unless they really hated each other.
>
> -m
>
Oh, I thought you were going to say that the same thing could be said about
RP and DD loving each other. Look how DD was relating to RP in Vienen. It
was Larry Sanders all over again. Michele
Magpie
LOL! That _is_ what was going through my mind during
Vienen! At one point I was sure Mulder was going
to all-out embrace him. Mulder couldn't keep
his hands off the guy. <g>
Of course, I'm sure others would say Fox was
forcing DD to do it under the orders of the
evil RP just to humiliate DD.;-P
-m
Jerry Wayne Cox
You might want to check out GAWS (the Official Gillian Anderson Web Site) at
http://gaws.ao.net/main.html for the answer. The answer should be in her bio. I
read it once but don't remember. Excuse me a moment while I check GAWS. Here is
what I found in the FAQ
NOTE: copied from GAWS:
4. Is Gillian married?
Currently no. However Gillian was married to Errol Clyde Klotz, a former
X-Files crewmember. They were married on New Years Day 1994 in Hawaii.
Says Gillian, "We kept it very, very small. In fact, it was just the two
of us
and a Buddhist priest on the 17th hole of this golf course in Hawaii."
Gillian
and Clyde have a daughter, Piper Maru Anderson - born September 25,
1994. Piper was born by Cesarean and it was due to Gillian's pregnancy
that the producers of the X-Files took a huge risk and had Gillian's
character, Scully, abducted by aliens. This later turned out to be a
pivotal
turning point in the show's history and major part of the on going
mythological episodes. Gillian missed only one episode of the x-files
("3")
while pregnant with Piper. Recently, Ms. Anderson and Mr. Klotz separated
in October of 1996. Currently Gillian was dating Rodney Rowland.
Hopes this helps.
Jerry W. Cox
Jerry Wayne Cox
Agreed, but since we don't know the full extent of Diana and Mulder's 'relationship'
before Scully came into Mulder's life in 1992-93, it's hard to say how much he was torn
between Diana and Scully in the beginning. It would have been very good to see some
flashback episodes of Diana and Mulder together when they first found the X-Files and
seen the temptation and betrayal by Diana and whether she secretly regretted the
betrayal and wished for redemption from Mulder. Truly a waste of good talent just to
provide a target with a bull's-eye on her back. Not to mention what those episodes
would mean to our understanding of the love and respect that Mulder and Scully have and
will always have for each other. Yeah wishful thinking I know, but.....
Jerry W. Cox