completely useless Wiseguy observations

Flux013

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98

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Hi there everyone!

I'm tired of seeing mostly spam on this board -- so, I'm being proactive and
writing something...anything. Please don't flame me, I know it's useless, but
at least it has something to do with with Wiseguy and isn't an offer on "how to
enlarge your penis" (I don't even have a penis!)

Useless observation #1: in Fascination for the Flame, the mother of the Paco's
bride is none other than Mrs. Mulder from the X-Files. I guess now we know
what *really* happened to Samantha.

Useless observation #2: Blood Dance was directed by Kim Manners, who directs
the best episodes of the X-Files. Poor Mel!

And a question: why does the name "William A. Fraker" sound so familiar? He
is/was a director...what else has he done?

Have a great MLK day. Take care!
Flux
*****
"And the rest, after a sudden wet thud, was silence."

JamesS1889

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In article <19980119164...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, flu...@aol.com
(Flux013) writes:

>And a question: why does the name "William A. Fraker" sound so
>familiar? He is/was a director...what else has he done?

You don't by any chance mean William Frakes, do you, of Star Trek
Next Gen fame? Of course, I don't remember him being in WiseGuy,
so maybe my comment is equally useless - but then, that's the
order of the day, isn't it ;-)

Speaking of which, here's one that I posted a while back, though
not formally as a UO (Useless Observation):

UO #4: Ray Sharkey, he of Sonny Steelgrave fame, played a common
thief in the pilot episode of Barney Miller back in 1974. Fish has
trouble chasing after him and he gets stuck in a cell with Marty,
a recurring homosexual character.

UO #5: Elsa Raven (Vinnie's Mom) was the "Save The Clocktower"
Lady in Back To The Future, Part I.

UO #6: William Russ (Lococco) was a police officer turned rebel
in "V: The Mini-Series" (The first one). They replaced him with a
different actor in "V: The Final Battle", and maybe replaced the
character as well.

UO #7: Tim Curry (Winston Newquay) played the prosecuting
attorney in a song entitled "The Trial" from Pink Floyd's The
Wall as performed live in Berlin in July of 1990.

(And that's avoiding the obvious ones) Guess you could say
you rang my bell. I'm the kind of person who notices these
things.
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Melody Womack

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98

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>
>>And a question: why does the name "William A. Fraker" sound so
>>familiar? He is/was a director...what else has he done?
>
>You don't by any chance mean William Frakes, do you, of Star Trek
>Next Gen fame? Of course, I don't remember him being in WiseGuy,
>so maybe my comment is equally useless - but then, that's the
>order of the day, isn't it ;-)

I checked the IMDb and they listed a William A. Fraker who's been a cinematographer for the last
30 years.

>Speaking of which, here's one that I posted a while back, though
>not formally as a UO (Useless Observation):
>
>UO #4: Ray Sharkey, he of Sonny Steelgrave fame, played a common
>thief in the pilot episode of Barney Miller back in 1974. Fish has
>trouble chasing after him and he gets stuck in a cell with Marty,
>a recurring homosexual character.

Is this "Experience"? And how about the "Protection" episode of BM he did in December, 1975?
Does he play the same thief in it or someone completely new?

UQ #1: Did the entire cast of WG appear in CRIME STORY at one time or another? Yeah, I know
I'm exagerating, but I have one tape of seven episodes and I swear I saw *6* WG people. And
that doesn't even cover behind the camera guys like David Burke and Eric Blakeney.

MelodyW

bruno

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98

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Melody Womack wrote:

> UQ #1: Did the entire cast of WG appear in CRIME STORY at one time or
> another? Yeah, I know
> I'm exagerating, but I have one tape of seven episodes and I swear I
> saw *6* WG people. And
> that doesn't even cover behind the camera guys like David Burke and
> Eric Blakeney.

Anthony Denison (John Raglin in Garment Trade arc) played one of the
main roles in it : the super-cool villain Ray Luca with a funny haircut.

John Santucci (Joey Bottles in Garment Trade arc) played Luca's right
hand Taglia.Darlanne Fluegel (Lacey in Lynchboro arc) played Torello's
wife (Torello was the main actor in CS, the FBI-agent who is hunting
after Ray Luca).Ray Sharkey, Kevin Spacey, William Russ, Patricia
Charbonneau, Patti D'Arbanville, Ted Levine (played the villain in last
WG-movie), Jon Polito (played Eddie Van Platt in "Player to be named
now") and Steve Ryan played little roles in CS. That makes allready 11 !
And Burke & Blakeney wrote also a couple of episodes, I guess.

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Toltic2

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98

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>Useless observation #1: in Fascination for the Flame, the mother of the Paco's
bride is none other than Mrs. Mulder from the X-Files. I guess now we know
what *really* happened to Samantha.>

I noticed that as well. It is amazing how many of today's popular actors got
their start in WG. That and how many of yesteryear stars were in WG. Wiseguy
was truly an exceptional show!

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JamesS1889

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98

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In article <19980120045...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, I wrote:

>You don't by any chance mean William Frakes, do you, of Star Trek
>Next Gen fame? Of course, I don't remember him being in WiseGuy,
>so maybe my comment is equally useless - but then, that's the
>order of the day, isn't it ;-)

Meanwhile, In article <6a0qi3$d63$1...@monteverdi.ednet.co.uk>,
"Jette Goldie" <boss...@ednet.co.uk> writes:

>Dunno - I've never heard of him; but I might *think* I'd heard
>of him.....William T Riker/Jonathon Frakes. Mix it up a little <g>

Arghhhh. This is a mistake I've even made before ... William
Frakes, indeed ;-) Oh well, you wanted entertainment, didn't you ;-)

bruno

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JamesS1889 wrote:

> Arghhhh. This is a mistake I've even made before ... William
> Frakes, indeed ;-) Oh well, you wanted entertainment, didn't you ;-)

Just did a search on IMDb on William A. Fraker and it looks like the guy
must have been a famous cinematographer before he did Wiseguy. He was 5
times nominated for the Oscars with films like "Looking for Mr.
Goodbar", "1941", "Heaven can't wait" and "Murphy's Romance". The
strange thing is that he didn't do a big movie anymore since Wiseguy.

judith lawrence

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I loved Crime Story as much as I love WG. They both had good writing,
excellent acting, good directing, etc. I was upset when both were canceled.
Did the same production company make them? I noticed lots of the same
actors in both productions. Love Anthony John Dennison. In some shows he's
now Anthony Dennison.
--
Judy L Uni...@gte.net

Melody Womack

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In article <19980121033...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
flu...@aol.com (Flux013) wrote:

>>How about things that with more than one WG actor/actress was in? (Obviously
>>besides WG.)
>
>Oooh! I can do that!
>
>Joan Severence & Kevin Spacey in "See No Evil, Hear No Evil."
>
>I do NOT recommend it, though. It's pretty awful. ;)
>

I've got a couple. Jonathan Banks did HIGHLANDER after Jim Brynes joined the cast. And recently
Dennis Lipscomb was on FIRED UP.

MelodyW

Jette Goldie

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98

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Flux013 wrote in message

>And a question: why does the name "William A. Fraker" sound so familiar?
He
>is/was a director...what else has he done?
>

Dunno - I've never heard of him; but I might *think* I'd heard of

him.....William T Riker/Jonathon Frakes. Mix it up a little <g>

Jette Goldie (Joe's my jo!) boss...@ednet.co.uk
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Flux013

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98

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>Just did a search on IMDb on William A. Fraker and it looks like the guy
>must have been a famous cinematographer before he did Wiseguy. He was 5
>times nominated for the Oscars with films like "Looking for Mr.
>Goodbar", "1941", "Heaven can't wait" and "Murphy's Romance". The
>strange thing is that he didn't do a big movie anymore since Wiseguy.
>
>Bruno.

AHA!! I knew I'd heard of him! I used to work in this trendy (read:
pretentious) video store near NYU where cinematographers had their own section.
:) Thanks everyone.

MERRICAT K

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98

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Useless? I do useless real well.

How about things that with more than one WG actor/actress was in? (Obviously
besides WG.)

Ray Sharkey & Jonathan Banks were both in Who'll Stop the Rain?

Merricat

The unlived life is not worth examining.
--Robert Hughes

Flux013

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>How about things that with more than one WG actor/actress was in? (Obviously
>besides WG.)

Oooh! I can do that!

Joan Severence & Kevin Spacey in "See No Evil, Hear No Evil."

I do NOT recommend it, though. It's pretty awful. ;)

JamesS1889

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In article <6a1n4v$4...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Melody Womack
<mwo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

I wrote:
>>UO #4: Ray Sharkey, he of Sonny Steelgrave fame, played a
>>common thief in the pilot episode of Barney Miller back in 1974.
>>Fish has trouble chasing after him and he gets stuck in a cell
>>with Marty, a recurring homosexual character.

>Is this "Experience"?

Yes.

>And how about the "Protection" episode of BM he did in
>December, 1975? Does he play the same thief in it
>or someone completely new?

I'm not aware of that one, we'll have to wait until that tape arrives
from Columbia House.

And now here's one that Babylon 5 fans could truly appreciate:

John Snyder, who played Ziffo (I think? Help me out here - I
know he was the one who tried to off Don Aiuppo) in the
Mob Wars arc, had a guest spot in one episode of B5 in
season 1. The episode was entitled "By Any Means
Necessary" and he played Orin Zento, a ruthless labor
negotiator. If I had to guess it must have been his acting
on Wiseguy that got him the part because he played Zento
just about the way he played Ziffo. By the way, Zento, while
he doesn't get killed, doesn't fare very well, just like Ziffo
didn't.

bruno

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98

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JamesS1889 wrote:

> John Snyder, who played Ziffo (I think? Help me out here - I
> know he was the one who tried to off Don Aiuppo) in the
> Mob Wars arc

Little correction : he played Joey Grosset, the guy who killed Ziffo.

Melody Womack

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In article <19980121052...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
james...@aol.com (JamesS1889) wrote:

>In article <6a1n4v$4...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, Melody Womack
><mwo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
>I wrote:
>>>UO #4: Ray Sharkey, he of Sonny Steelgrave fame, played a
>>>common thief in the pilot episode of Barney Miller back in 1974.
>>>Fish has trouble chasing after him and he gets stuck in a cell
>>>with Marty, a recurring homosexual character.
>
>>Is this "Experience"?
>
>Yes.
>
>>And how about the "Protection" episode of BM he did in
>>December, 1975? Does he play the same thief in it
>>or someone completely new?
>
>I'm not aware of that one, we'll have to wait until that tape arrives
>from Columbia House.
>

Since I've never seen it, when it does arrive would you mind making a copy for a fellow WG
fan? :-)

>And now here's one that Babylon 5 fans could truly appreciate:
>

>John Snyder, who played Ziffo (I think? Help me out here - I

>know he was the one who tried to off Don Aiuppo)) in the

>Mob Wars arc, had a guest spot in one episode of B5 in
>season 1. The episode was entitled "By Any Means
>Necessary" and he played Orin Zento, a ruthless labor
>negotiator. If I had to guess it must have been his acting
>on Wiseguy that got him the part because he played Zento
>just about the way he played Ziffo. By the way, Zento, while
>he doesn't get killed, doesn't fare very well, just like Ziffo
>didn't.

Good catch, Jim. I retaped this one tonight and the connection never once clicked in my head.
On WG his character was Joey Grossett, doormat to the harridan Gina.

MelodyW

Ron Goch

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98

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how about ken wahl and tony ganios both in the movie
the wanderers.

bruno

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98

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Ron Goch wrote:

> how about ken wahl and tony ganios both in the movie
> the wanderers.

Who's Tony Ganios ?

Ron Goch

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Rbbrbndgrl wrote:

> Anyone up to playing the Kevin Bacon Game, connected to Wiseguy?

About what are you talking ?

Ron Goch

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> Anyone up to playing the Kevin Bacon Game, connected to Wiseguy?

for those inclined to do this, try this page:
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~bct7m/star_links.html
the kevin bacon game, computerized!

Melody Womack

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In article <19980121172...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
rbbrb...@aol.com (Rbbrbndgrl) wrote:

> Anyone up to playing the Kevin Bacon Game, connected to Wiseguy?
>

I am. Give us a name to get started.

MelodyW

Flux013

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Jan 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/22/98

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>Rbbrbndgrl wrote:
>
>> Anyone up to playing the Kevin Bacon Game, connected to Wiseguy?
>

>About what are you talking ?
>
>

You try to connect actors to Wiseguy in 6 steps or less. For
example...President Clinton (Letterman's on & he's goofing on him at the
moment):

(1) President Clinton was in Contact (albeit against his will) with Jodie
Foster
(2) Jodie Foster was in Silence of the Lambs w/Anthony Hopkins
(3) Anthony Hopkins was in Amistad with Matthew McConaghy (however the hell you
spell it)
(4) Matthew McConnaghy was in A Time to Kill w/Kevin Spacey... who was in
Wiseguy.

So, there you go. Anyone else?

Melody Womack

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In article <19980122045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
flu...@aol.com (Flux013) wrote:

We can trim this one down even more. McConahay was in CONTACT as well so we can go directly
from Clinton to McConhay to Spacey.

Melody

Melody Womack

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In article <19980122045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
flu...@aol.com (Flux013) wrote:

>>Rbbrbndgrl wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone up to playing the Kevin Bacon Game, connected to Wiseguy?
>>

I've chosen Julia Roberts who has seems to have endless ties to WG. There are probably more
than these but I got tired.

1. Julia to Anthony Dennison & Steve Ryan in CRIME STORY(1986); Dennison & Ryan to WG

2. Julia to Lesley Ann Warren in BAJA OKLAHOMA(1988); Warren to Ray Sharkey in 27 WAGONS FULL OF
COTTON(1990); Sharkey to WG

3. Julia to Anthony Zerbe in BAJA OKLAHOMA(1988); Zerbe to Ray Sharkey in WHO'LL STOP THE
RAIN(1978); Sharkey to WG

4. Julia to Dylan McDermott in STEEL MAGNOLIAS(1989); McDermott to Ray Sharkey in THE NEON
EMPIRE(1989); Sharkey to WG

5. Julia to Richard Gere in PRETTY WOMAN(1990); Gere to Ray Sharkey in NO MERCY(1986); Sharkey
to WG

6. Julia to Richard Gere in PRETTY WOMAN(1990); Gere to Steven Bauer in PRIMAL FEAR(1996); Bauer
to WG

7. Julia to Dustin Hoffman in HOOK(1991); Hoffman to Kevin Spacey in OUTBREAK(1995); Spacey to
WG

8. Julia to Dustin Hoffman in HOOK(1991); Hoffman to J.T. Walsh in OUTBREAK(1995); Walsh to Ray
Sharkey in WIRED(1989); Sharkey to WG

9. Julia to Dustin Hoffman in HOOK(1991); Hoffman to Stanley Tucci in BILLY BATHGATE(1991);
Tucci to WG

10. Julia to Peter Gallagher in THE PLAYER(1992); Gallagher to Ray Sharkey in THE
IDOLMAKER(1980); Sharkey to WG

11. Julia to Karen Black in THE PLAYER(1992); Black to Ray Sharkey in CAGED FEAR(1992); Sharkey
to WG

12. Julia to Gary Busey in THE PLAYER(1992); Busey to Ray Sharkey in ACT OF PIRACY(1987), THE
NEON EMPIRE(1989), CHROME SOLDIERS(1992); Sharkey to WG

13. Julia to Robert Carradine in THE PLAYER(1992); Carradine to Ray Sharkey in REVENGE OF AL
CAPONE(1989); Sharkey to WG

14. Julia to Nick Nolte in THE PLAYER(1992); Nolte to Ray Sharkey in WHO'LL STOP THE RAIN(1978),
HEART BEAT(1980); Sharkey to WG

15. Julia to Kim Basinger in THE PLAYER(1992); Basinger to Ray Sharkey in NO MERCY(1986);
Sharkey to WG

16. Julia to Stanley Tucci in PELICAN BRIEF(1993); Tucci to WG

17. Julia to Edward Norton in EVERYONE SAYS I LOVE YOU(1996); Norton to Richard Gere in PRIMAL
FEAR(1996); Gere to Ray Sharkey in NO MERCY(1986); Sharkey to WG

Who's next??

MelodyW

bruno

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Jan 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/22/98

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Flux013 wrote:

> So, there you go. Anyone else?

To connect the flamish nr. 1 actor Jan Decleir with Wiseguy there's only
3 steps :

1. Decleir, Jan was in Verleden, Het (1982) with Krabbé, Jeroen
2. Krabbé, Jeroen was in King of the Hill (1993) with McGovern,
Elizabeth
3. McGovern, Elizabeth was in Favor, The (1994) with Wahl, Ken

bruno

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Jan 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/22/98

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Naomi Heiman wrote:

> Also Ken Wahl and Robert Davi in The Taking of Beverly Hills

A bit more succesfull : Kevin Spacey and Chazz Palmenteri (Senator Peter
Allatore in Maffia arc) in The Usual Suspects.

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Jim wrote:

>OK,

>1) Clinton was also in Forest Gump with Tom Hanks

>2) Tom Hanks was in an (2 actually) episode of Family Ties with Michael J Fox

>3) Michael J Fox was in Back To The Future with Christopher Lloyd

>4) Christopher Lloyd was in The Search For Spock with George Takei

>5) George Takei was in The Green Berets with John Wayne

Uh, Jim--which episode was John Wayne in?

Melody Womack

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In article <19980123032...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
james...@aol.com (JamesS1889) wrote:

>Sorry, I realized after I sent that that it had nothing to do with
>WiseGuy. I just couldn't resist ;-)

You gave up too quick, Jim.

1. John Wayne to Lauren Bacall THE SHOOTIST(1976)

2. Bacall to Kim Basinger PRET-A-PORTER(1994)

3. Basinger to Ray Sharkey NO MERCY(1986)

4. Sharkey to WG

MelodyW

IM Sylvie

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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>
>(1) President Clinton was in Contact (albeit against his will) with Jodie
>Foster
>(2) Jodie Foster was in Silence of the Lambs w/Anthony Hopkins
>(3) Anthony Hopkins was in Amistad with Matthew McConaghy (however the hell
>you
>spell it)
>(4) Matthew McConnaghy was in A Time to Kill w/Kevin Spacey... who was in
>Wiseguy.
>

>So, there you go. Anyone else?
>

>Flux

You could have made the connection 2 steps sooner, since McConnaghy was also
in Contact. ( I don't know if that is spelled right either, and don't care --
sorry Matt!)

Nice to see some action on this board again!
Sylvie

JamesS1889

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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Sorry, I realized after I sent that that it had nothing to do with
WiseGuy. I just couldn't resist ;-)

bruno

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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Melody Womack wrote:

> I've have a separate question for Bruno. How do you put the accent
> mark above the e in Krabbe?

Strange question. It's on your keyboard as lowercase-character for "2"
(as "é"). Maybe you don't have it on your keyboard because I have a
Belgian keyboard that can be different from an American one. We're
having sepparate buttons for "é", "è", "à" and "ù" cause we use it very
offently in french and flamish. I guess that's why "Café" was spelled
with an "e" at Mel's web-site.

BTW: Does anybody here know Jan Decleir (the flamish nr. 1 actor)

Bruno.
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Wim Hemerijckx

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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People,
This is a newsgroup for wiseguy fans, not for keyboard fans.
Let's restrict our discussions to the TV show please and let's keep
private issues private.

Thank you,
Wim

Jette Goldie

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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Melody Womack wrote in message <6a95lk$a...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>...

>In article <19980123032...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
> james...@aol.com (JamesS1889) wrote:
>

>>Sorry, I realized after I sent that that it had nothing to do with
>>WiseGuy. I just couldn't resist ;-)
>

>You gave up too quick, Jim.
>
>1. John Wayne to Lauren Bacall THE SHOOTIST(1976)
>
>2. Bacall to Kim Basinger PRET-A-PORTER(1994)
>
>3. Basinger to Ray Sharkey NO MERCY(1986)
>
>4. Sharkey to WG
>

or even.

Bacall to Alexandra Van der Noot PRET A PORTER (I think that's the spelling
of her name)

Alexandra to Jim Byrnes HIGHLANDER: the Series

Jim Byrnes to WG.

Jette Goldie (Joe's my jo!) boss...@ednet.co.uk
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MERRICAT K

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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Ok, guys, top this one!

1) Me (Merricat K, aka Monica Rose) met John Sayles at the premier of Matewan

2) John Sayles directed & acted in Return of the Secaucus 7, Matewan, Brother
from Another Planet, Passion Fish (& probably others I'm not remembering) with
David Strathairn

3) David Strathairn was Sheriff Stemkowski on Wiseguy.

Merricat (who can link herself more closely to a certain guy than she ever
imagined)

MERRICAT K

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98

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Oh, Ray Sharkey & Holland Taylor--Cop & 1/2.

Merricat

"Carlotta was the kind of town where they spelled trouble t-r-u-b-i-l, and if
you tried to correct them, they killed you."
--Rigby Reardon

MERRICAT K

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Melody Womack wrote:

>>>I've have a separate question for Bruno. How do you put the accent
>>>mark above the e in Krabbe?

To which Bruno responded:

>>Strange question. It's on your keyboard as lowercase-character for "2" (as

"E"). Maybe you >>don't have it on your keyboard because I have a Belgian

keyboard that can be different from >>an American one. We're having sepparate

buttons for "E", "E", "x" and "x" cause we use it >>very offently in french and
flamish. I guess that's why "CafE" was spelled with an "e" at >>Mel's web-site.

>>BTW: Does anybody here know Jan Decleir (the flamish nr. 1 actor)

And finally Wim stepped in with:

>People,
>This is a newsgroup for wiseguy fans, not for keyboard fans.
>Let's restrict our discussions to the TV show please and let's keep private
issues private.
>
>Thank you,
>Wim

Thank *you,* Wim, for breaking up what was clearly going to be a long,
monotonous keyboard related thread. People like that should just take their
discussion over to alt.keyboards and leave us Wiseguy fans in peace. I just
hate it when people try to use this newsgroup to make actual, friendly,
personal contact; why, that might lead to actual friendships!

Now, why don't you go on with that fascinating idea you had about how Vinnie
was found in San Salvador?

Merricat

Gertrude Stein was right; a mouth is a mouth is a mouth.
--Frank, "Scenes from the Class Struggle in Beverly Hills"

JamesS1889

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In article <6a95lk$a...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, Melody Womack
<mwo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>In article <19980123032...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
>james...@aol.com (JamesS1889) wrote:

>>Sorry, I realized after I sent that that it had nothing to do with
>>WiseGuy. I just couldn't resist ;-)

>You gave up too quick, Jim.
>1. John Wayne to Lauren Bacall THE SHOOTIST(1976)
>2. Bacall to Kim Basinger PRET-A-PORTER(1994)
>3. Basinger to Ray Sharkey NO MERCY(1986)
>4. Sharkey to WG

Thanks, Melody, but that would make 9 steps, and I thought
you were only allowed 6. Actually, I originally took 2 steps
to get from Hanks to Fox until I remembered the Family
Ties episodes.

I was so enamored with how topically interesting that
connection was, that I just didn't focus on WG at all. If you
are scratching your head wondering what I mean by
"topically", look at the big news story that is all over
the News yesterday and today and probably for the next
few weeks. :-|

Melody Womack

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In article <19980124075...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
james...@aol.com (JamesS1889) wrote:

>In article <6a95lk$a...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, Melody Womack
><mwo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
>>In article <19980123032...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
>>james...@aol.com (JamesS1889) wrote:
>
>>>Sorry, I realized after I sent that that it had nothing to do with
>>>WiseGuy. I just couldn't resist ;-)
>
>>You gave up too quick, Jim.
>>1. John Wayne to Lauren Bacall THE SHOOTIST(1976)
>>2. Bacall to Kim Basinger PRET-A-PORTER(1994)
>>3. Basinger to Ray Sharkey NO MERCY(1986)
>>4. Sharkey to WG
>
>Thanks, Melody, but that would make 9 steps, and I thought
>you were only allowed 6. Actually, I originally took 2 steps
>to get from Hanks to Fox until I remembered the Family
>Ties episodes.
>
>I was so enamored with how topically interesting that
>connection was, that I just didn't focus on WG at all. If you
>are scratching your head wondering what I mean by
>"topically", look at the big news story that is all over
>the News yesterday and today and probably for the next
>few weeks. :-|

I was only thinking about linking Wayne to WG. But the whole Clinton/Lewinsky brouhaha does
sound like something out of WG.

MelodyW

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In article <34C70A19...@realtime-info.be>,
bruno <B.Wil...@realtime-info.be> wrote:

>Naomi Heiman wrote:
>
>> Also Ken Wahl and Robert Davi in The Taking of Beverly Hills
>
>A bit more succesfull : Kevin Spacey and Chazz Palmenteri (Senator Peter
>Allatore in Maffia arc) in The Usual Suspects.
>

Since Bruno's brought up Kevin Spacey, LA CONFIDENTIAL is triply connected to WG because it
includes Spacey, David Strathairn, and Paul Guilfoyle. And while it doesn't measure up to

Merricat's connection, if you're willing to count buildings I drove past the Formosa from
CONFIDENTIAL three times in November. They're in the process of remodeling, probably with the
rental money they got from the film company. So I'm kinda vaguely connected to WG via Spacey
since he shot that wonderful Lana Turner scene there.

Melody

Melody Womack

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In article <34CCA706...@realtime-info.be>,
bruno <B.Wil...@realtime-info.be> wrote:

>Melody Womack wrote:
>
>> In article <34C70A19...@realtime-info.be>,
>> bruno <B.Wil...@realtime-info.be> wrote:
>>
>> >Naomi Heiman wrote:
>> >
>> Since Bruno's brought up Kevin Spacey, LA CONFIDENTIAL is triply
>> connected to WG because it
>> includes Spacey, David Strathairn, and Paul Guilfoyle. And while it
>> doesn't measure up to
>

>How many seconds was Paul Guilfoyle in it ? I just noticed him in the
>ending credits.

He's in the opening scene at the night club. But even though Cohen is killed off in short
order, it's his death and the resulting power vacuum that sets the entire story in motion.

Melody

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