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David A Southwood

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Mar 30, 1992, 3:23:57 PM3/30/92
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The Black Lodge and all of the characters in it come from a 1917 book by
Alexis Crowley called 'MOONCHILD'. It is about a girl named Lisa who
travels into the 4th dimension and encounters the black lodge. Many
characters are described in the black lodge, including a dwarf that listens
to music, a beautiful woman in horrible pain, a king, an very evil man (but
he isn't named Bob), etc. . This was Crowleys only novel. His other books
seem to dwell on writings for his cult. According to his bibliography, they
believed in LSD, sex, science and magic as a combined power.

Brett J. Vickers

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Mar 30, 1992, 6:44:07 PM3/30/92
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dre...@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood) writes:
>The Black Lodge and all of the characters in it come from a 1917 book by
>Alexis Crowley called 'MOONCHILD'.

You mean Alistair Crowley?

>It is about a girl named Lisa who
>travels into the 4th dimension and encounters the black lodge. Many
>characters are described in the black lodge, including a dwarf that listens
>to music, a beautiful woman in horrible pain, a king, an very evil man (but
>he isn't named Bob), etc.

Wow! This all sounds very familiar. It looks like Lynch and Frost did
a little reading up on Crowley. I wonder who the King would represent,
and what was it that Major Briggs was mumbling about the "King of
Rumania" in one of the latter episodes?

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Philip (The Ronman) Lee Tanner

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Apr 1, 1992, 3:50:15 AM4/1/92
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A recent posting mentioned the source of the Lodge and many other Peaks
things as by an author named Alexis Crowley. Is this correct, or is it
the infamous Satan-worshipper Crowley, whose name was actually (I think)
Allister (sp?)???

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Michael Dorotich

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Apr 1, 1992, 11:55:31 AM4/1/92
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In article <rbtg7...@agate.berkeley.edu>, phil...@ocf.berkeley.edu (Philip (The Ronman) Lee Tanner) writes:
|> A recent posting mentioned the source of the Lodge and many other Peaks
|> things as by an author named Alexis Crowley. Is this correct, or is it
|> the infamous Satan-worshipper Crowley, whose name was actually (I think)
|> Allister (sp?)???

You are correct. And the spelling of his name is "Aleister".

Brian Wood

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Apr 1, 1992, 2:57:16 PM4/1/92
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>>The Black Lodge and all of the characters in it come from a 1917 book by
>>Alexis Crowley called 'MOONCHILD'.

>You mean Alistair Crowley?

>>It is about a girl named Lisa who
>>travels into the 4th dimension and encounters the black lodge. Many
>>characters are described in the black lodge, including a dwarf that listens
>>to music, a beautiful woman in horrible pain, a king, an very evil man (but
>>he isn't named Bob), etc.

>Wow! This all sounds very familiar. It looks like Lynch and Frost did


>a little reading up on Crowley. I wonder who the King would represent,
>and what was it that Major Briggs was mumbling about the "King of
>Rumania" in one of the latter episodes?

There was also a scene about a 'throne room' that was cut.


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Lane Molpus

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Apr 1, 1992, 4:19:20 PM4/1/92
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In article <rbtg7...@agate.berkeley.edu> phil...@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Philip (The Ronman) Lee Tanner) writes:
> A recent posting mentioned the source of the Lodge and many other Peaks
> things as by an author named Alexis Crowley. Is this correct, or is it
> the infamous Satan-worshipper Crowley, whose name was actually (I think)
> Allister (sp?)???
>
>
>
> --
> Philip Lee Tanner, BASW 1992, 2QT2BSTR8. Internet:
phil...@ocf.berkeley.edu
>

The book being discussed is *Moonchild* by Aleister (yes, Aleister)
Crowley. It was still in print as of 1989.

He was indeed the infamous satan-worshipper (with the alleged sexual
passion for either gender, so long as they were ugly [according to
Umberto Eco]).


Bob Ingria

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Apr 2, 1992, 2:23:13 PM4/2/92
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In article <1992Mar30....@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> dre...@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood) writes:

The Black Lodge and all of the characters in it come from a 1917 book by
Alexis Crowley

As various people have pointed out, that's Aleister Crowley.

called 'MOONCHILD'. It is about a girl named Lisa who
travels into the 4th dimension and encounters the black lodge. Many
characters are described in the black lodge, including a dwarf that listens
to music, a beautiful woman in horrible pain, a king, an very evil man (but
he isn't named Bob), etc. .

Hmm. It's been a long time since I read _Moonchild_. As I remember,
it was about a struggle between two competing groups of magicians (one
``white'', one ``black'') to produce a supernatural child and to bend
his nature to their purposes. Most of your description doesn't ring a
bell; I'll have to go look.

This was Crowleys only novel.

No, he also wrote _Diary of a Dope Fiend_, which used his real-life
commune in Cefalu, Sicily, as background. (_Moonchild_ is also set in
Italy, in Posilippo, if I remember correctly.) Crowley also wrote
several short stories, and several volumes of poetry.

His other books
seem to dwell on writings for his cult.

Crowley was a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn,
probably the most influential occult order in Britain (maybe the
English-speaking world) at the turn of the century. Other members
included William Butler Yeats (whose initiated name was ``Demon est
deus inversus'' - ``The Devil is God upside-down''; Crowley's own
initiated names were ``Fra Perdurabo'' (I will endure) and ``Master
Therion'' (therion being a Greek word for ``beast'', Crowley
identifying himself with the Great Beast 666 of Revelations) and
Arthur Machen. The G.:D:. eventually fragmented, with Crowley forming
his own orders (the A.A. and O.T.O.; there are various O.T.O.'s
floating around these days that claim to have apostolic succession
from Crowley). When Crowley first began writing about G.:D:.
teachings, he did so in code, since he was sworn to secrecy. Later,
he published G.:D:. teachings openly, mostly in his periodical _The
Equinox_. (Israel Regardie has a book out of the main G.:D:.
teachings; and Francis King published some of the more obscure texts;
all in all, just about everything is available these days.) In
addition to using codes for secrecy, Crowley was a well-educated man,
with a wicked sense of humor, who could write very well. This makes
his books rough going sometimes, between the layers of puns, codes,
and inside jokes. He was quite capable of speaking plainly when he
wanted to, as in his _Eight Lectures on Yoga_ and _The Banned Lecture_.

According to his bibliography, they
believed in LSD, sex, science and magic as a combined power.

Well, I believe LSD was mostly before Crowley's time, though he
certainly did use drugs (he was addicted to Heroin for at least part
of his life) both recreationally and for religious purposes. He also
practiced sex magic(k) or tantra. The combination of science and
magic was perhaps one of the most characteristically Crowleian
contributions. One of his rhymes went:

``We place no reliance
On virgin or pigeon
Our method is science
Our aim is religion''

Now, to go looking through _Moonchild_.

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Ye Master Choirion, his Marke

John atwell

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Apr 9, 1992, 2:10:11 AM4/9/92
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scar...@bnr.ca (Michael Dorotich) writes:

> |> A recent posting mentioned the source of the Lodge and many other Peaks
> |> things as by an author named Alexis Crowley. Is this correct, or is it
> |> the infamous Satan-worshipper Crowley, whose name was actually (I think)
> |> Allister (sp?)???
>
> You are correct. And the spelling of his name is "Aleister".

BTW...Mr. Aleister Crowley is on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
Club Band (he's to the left of Mae West, and if ya don't know where SHE
is, you need more help than I can give you). He is given a bio of
"Dabbler In Sex, Drugs and Magic". Sounds like some of the same Major
Themes in Twin Peaks! This can't be a coincidence (unlike a lot of
research presented on this net).

Did ANYBODY out there ever find any info on the Dugpas (sp.)???? PLEEESE
point me to a book on these "zanies"...I am very curious!

Here's hoping that the April release date in the USA is not a rumor!


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