Worst Twin Peaks subplot

Darth Nub

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Oct 4, 2003, 12:32:41 PM10/4/03

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Has to be that nonsense involving Andy, Dick & little Nicky. Not the
battle over the father of Lucy's child, though, that's pretty solid
soap material.

However, the weird idea that Nicky was a psycho or something wasn't
funny, nor was it twisted &/or disturbing. It was just stupid. Having
Andy or Dick using the Big Brother program to impress Lucy was
material for comic relief in about one segment in one episode, not a
whole story strand of its own.

Mind you, James Hurley's litle excursion into film noir rates a close
second. Boring & predictable, involving, well, the most boring &
predictable character in the series.

Any other contenders, from any season?

Darth

Björn Lindström

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Oct 4, 2003, 12:48:46 PM10/4/03

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gonzo...@hotmail.com (Darth Nub) writes:

> Has to be that nonsense involving Andy, Dick & little Nicky. Not the
> battle over the father of Lucy's child, though, that's pretty solid
> soap material.

Didn't we have this conversation about two weeks ago?

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Chance Kunga Tsering

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Oct 4, 2003, 4:18:27 PM10/4/03

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God there were so many. Audrey's tryst w/ Ben's business associate. Just
pointless, no real UST like between her and Cooper. Audrey's foray into
political action. Nadine's regression dementia and tryst w/ Mike (although
Nadine getting super strength was forshadowed in the pilot when she bends
the handles of the rowing machine, so that was kinda alright). Ben's civil
war dementia. James tryst w/ the blond bad actress.

Chance

Henry The Horse

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Oct 4, 2003, 6:14:50 PM10/4/03

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< [...] (although Nadine getting super strength was forshadowed in the pilot

when she bends the handles of the rowing machine, so that was kinda

alright). [...] >

That was somewhat consistent, but far from alright. :-)

Of course,
~Henry the Horse~

damnfine

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Oct 4, 2003, 11:30:03 PM10/4/03

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Stop saying tryst it's a stupid word.

Most of that stuff is great, you're only right in the last sentence.

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Pikemann Urge

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Oct 5, 2003, 9:51:55 AM10/5/03

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Darth Nub wrote:
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> Has to be that nonsense involving Andy, Dick & little Nicky.

[...]

> However, the weird idea that Nicky was a psycho or something wasn't
> funny, nor was it twisted &/or disturbing. It was just stupid.

I'm totally with you. They were really bored or something when they came
up with that B-grade tripe.

> Mind you, James Hurley's litle excursion into film noir rates a close
> second. Boring & predictable, involving, well, the most boring &
> predictable character in the series.

Yeah, it's almost as bad, but *could* have been interesting.

Can't stand the Nadine thing either: her going back to high-school etc.
God, how dull.

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Darth Nub

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Oct 6, 2003, 9:56:52 AM10/6/03

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Pikemann Urge <k...@MAPSONbigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:<3F8021FB...@MAPSONbigpond.net.au>...

> Can't stand the Nadine thing either: her going back to high-school etc.
> God, how dull.
>

The whole Nadine reborn as a teenager plot was pretty dumb - silly,
rather than weird. However, I did like the scene in the final episode
where she returns to normal & everything falls apart.

It wasn't a particularly bad idea, it just dragged on for too long, &
was taken to idiotic lengths - joining the wrestling team, going out
with Mike, etc. It would have been better to play it straight, & as a
result it would have turned out much stranger. She could have been a
disturbing presence at the school, with parents making complaints,
students playing cruel pranks & so on. It would have made her a much
more tragic figure.

Instead, we ended up with the sort of storyline you might get in a
moronic teen flick these days - imagine her as a male character,
played by Adam Sandler or Rob Schneider. Urrggghhh...

Darth

Tre

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Dec 2, 2003, 4:11:34 PM12/2/03

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i really just can't stomach james and donna at all pretty much after
halfway through the first season... and it just gets exponetially worse
as the 2nd season progresses... it basically deteriorates to their
looking lovingly into one another's eyes and she whispers "james," and
he (always on the verge of tears, it seems) grasps her hand and says "i
wanna be with you, donna." blech.. one-dimensional characters... i
sorta thought that the subplot with james and the blonde bombshell was
the only interesting thing they gave him to do... well, aside from
tricking jacoby with maddie...

do they ever explain how he got to be a bookhouse boy? i assume it's
just because he's big ed's nephew, but i think he proves over and over
that he's not mature enough to handle it...

-tre

Stephen Carlin

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Dec 2, 2003, 4:54:56 PM12/2/03

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Andy-Lucy-Dick subplot...

Tre

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Dec 3, 2003, 8:38:13 PM12/3/03

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if you hate the bob plot... how do you like the series well enough to
join this newsgroup?

-tre

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> NO NO NO! The dumbest thing was BOB!

The log

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Dec 4, 2003, 6:45:44 AM12/4/03

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>if you hate the bob plot... how do you like the series well enough to
>join this newsgroup?

Oh, come off it. All that Bob stuff was arrant nonsense. Climbing over sofas...
why didn't he just walk around them?

A very silly character indeed.

Peace,
The log- I know what I like

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The log

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Dec 4, 2003, 7:01:49 AM12/4/03

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>The bob shit really fucked up an otherwise good show.

It was so unrealistic.

Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer

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Dec 4, 2003, 11:06:39 AM12/4/03

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"The log" <row...@aol.comPLICATE> skrev i en meddelelse
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> >The bob shit really fucked up an otherwise good show.
>
> It was so unrealistic.
>
>
> Peace,
> The log- I know what I like

BOB was unrealistic, but "the log" was believable?

The log

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Dec 4, 2003, 11:14:49 AM12/4/03

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>> >The bob shit really fucked up an otherwise good show.
>>
>> It was so unrealistic.

>BOB was unrealistic, but "the log" was believable?

Well, I didn't like the whole 'talking log' idea that much. It was much too
quirky for what could have been a jolly good show.

I don't understand Mulholland Drive, either.

Peace,
The log- I know what I like

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Mikko Pihkoluoma

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Dec 4, 2003, 1:35:13 PM12/4/03

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"Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer" wrote...

"Sarcasm? No, we don't get that here."

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Stephen Carlin

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Dec 4, 2003, 3:12:19 PM12/4/03

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Surely the whole point of the log was that Margaret was so traumitised that
she became dissociated from the world and its evils. If anything bad
happened, it happened to the log.

SC

Joshua Zyber

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Dec 4, 2003, 7:28:36 PM12/4/03

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"Stephen Carlin" <Stephen...@sparrowsfall.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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You might want to take a moment to realize you're responding to a guy
who goes by the name, "The Log".

Trichome

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Dec 4, 2003, 10:53:38 PM12/4/03

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In article <bqo4je$gdb$1$8302...@news.demon.co.uk>,
"Stephen Carlin" <Stephen...@sparrowsfall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I really don't know that I can agree with that function of Margaret's
log. "I'll test my log with every branch of the tree of Knowledge", how
did that title Lynch concocted for Catherine Coulson's first incarnation
of the log? The Log is a conduit to the spirit world, a spiritual
vessel. Animal matter has souls, and so can wood.

Margaret's husband first brought home a jar of the black oii, and
then died in a fire. Fire is the devil, hiding like a coward in the
smoke. "The Arm" was a left-over spirit part of Mike. Josie ended up in
a drawer-pull made of wood.

Mr. Lanterman the lumberjack left some part of himself behind.
Margaret may have become unhinged/insightful when he died. Maybe she
inhaled the vapors of the oil.

Trichome

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Keith Gow

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Dec 4, 2003, 11:49:52 PM12/4/03

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On 04 Dec 2003 11:45:44 GMT, row...@aol.comPLICATE (The log) waxed
lyrical:

>Oh, come off it. All that Bob stuff was arrant nonsense. Climbing over sofas...
>why didn't he just walk around them?
>
>A very silly character indeed.

I've missed you, The Log.

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Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer

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>
> I really don't know that I can agree with that function of Margaret's
> log.

Agreed. Nothing in the series suggests a psychological explanation of "the
log", that is a farfetched theory. The spiritual theory makes much more
sense within the context.

Mikkel

The log

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Dec 5, 2003, 4:18:57 AM12/5/03

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>I've missed you, The Log.

I have always been here.

Peace,
The log

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Dec 5, 2003, 9:26:53 AM12/5/03

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>> It was so stupid the way Cooper forgot who did it after the dream. Like
>you
>> would forget that!
>
>Also, everything with Audrey sucked.

She was too ugly as well.

Joshua Zyber

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Dec 5, 2003, 7:11:31 PM12/5/03

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"The log" <row...@aol.comPLICATE> wrote in message
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> >> It was so stupid the way Cooper forgot who did it after the dream.
Like
> >you
> >> would forget that!
> >
> >Also, everything with Audrey sucked.
>
> She was too ugly as well.

LOLOLOL!!!!! This thread rox!!!!!!!!!

Keith Gow

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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:11:31 GMT, "Joshua Zyber"
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And speaking of rox - what was with that shit about Dale Crapper
throwing rocks at the bottle????

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Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer

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>
> Also, everything with Audrey sucked.

I liked her - but was surprised to learn that Lynch/Frost wanted Cooper to
commence an affair with Audrey... don't think that would have worked...

Mikko Pihkoluoma

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Dec 6, 2003, 4:41:01 AM12/6/03

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"Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer" wrote...

Again with the sarcasm...
We all love Audrey, that was the point.

Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer

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>
> Again with the sarcasm...
> We all love Audrey, that was the point.

I think I got that :-)

Keith Gow

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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:24:50 +0100, "Mikkel Moldrup-Lakjer"
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[Audrey:]

>I liked her - but was surprised to learn that Lynch/Frost wanted Cooper to
>commence an affair with Audrey... don't think that would have worked...

Yes, it would have. It would have worked fine and probably, overall,
better than the Annie thing because the Audrey/Cooper thing was set up
from their first meeting - whereas Annie came in about 6 episodes from
the end and it was a bit rushed.

MacLachlan's complaint that Cooper would never do it with a schoolgirl
doesn't hold up, really. I'm sure that was the entire point of the
relationship - to get Cooper to really let his guard down.

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Baldrick

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Feb 26, 2004, 5:03:53 PM2/26/04

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"Stephen Carlin" <Stephen...@sparrowsfall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>Andy-Lucy-Dick subplot...

Ooohnonono! The introduction of Dick is hilarious. His arrogance is fabulous.
I've become an Ian Buchanan fan solely because of his Dick. :-)

Regards,
Baldrick

M E Mazzanti

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<< Andy-Lucy-Dick subplot... >>

< Ooohnonono! The introduction of Dick is hilarious. His arrogance is
fabulous. >

Yuck.

< I've become an Ian Buchanan fan solely because of his Dick. :-) >

LOL.

~ Henry the Horse ~

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Feb 29, 2004, 6:00:30 AM2/29/04

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I don't like the Harold Smith plot. Maybe it's the actor, I'm not sure.

baldrick

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dick tremayne was a great character

james hurley on the other hand and all his scenes are usually the subject of
a 'fast forwarding' i'm afraid.

Yngvar Fųlling

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In article <403f2071$0$27403$edfa...@dread16.news.tele.dk>,
Cun...@Plans.dk says...

> I have to totally aggree. When I view Twin Peaks, there are no characters as
> indifferent to me as James Hurley and Donna Hayward (when they're together).
> Apparently, James has absolutely no ability to laugh (or even smile), he's a
> little TOO soft (even for a woman, I'd think) and his leather jacket and Harley
> Davidson doesn't really fit his personality. Even the "blonde" subplot was
> rather lame to me.

I suppose it had something to do with the intentional reversal of genre
conventions. Somewhere in the DVD set (possibly in one of the
commentary tracks, and I'm not going to find out which one), they
pointed out that in Twin Peaks, it's the high school kids who are
dealing drugs, while the bikers listen to Julee Cruise rather than
heavy metal.

Yngvar