Katee Sackhoff joins "24"
David
Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
By Nellie Andreeva
Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
After a couple of weeks of on-and-off negotiations, Katee Sackhoff,
best known for her role as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar
Galactica," has been tapped to co-star on Fox's "24."
On the 20th TV/Imagine TV series, she will play Dana Walsh, a smart
and competent expert data analyst at CTU with a secret past who is
involved with CTU agent Davis Cole (Freddie Prinze Jr.)
This marks the final major casting of a new regular for the show's
upcoming eighth season, which is already in production.
Sackhoff joins fellow new cast members Freddie Prinze Jr., Jennifer
Westfeldt, Mykelti Williamson, John Boyd and Chris Diamantopoulos.
Sackhoff most recently toplined NBC's pilot "Lost and Found."
She is repped by Bleu and attorney Darren Trattner.
ib...@san.rr.com
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e...
>
> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
> By Nellie Andreeva
>
> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
Man, am I glad I stopped watching this a few years ago!!
David
Don't know why. You watch much worse.
Anthony Buckland
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com...
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6c932f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
>
> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
> By Nellie Andreeva
>
> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
>
> After a couple of weeks of on-and-off negotiations, Katee Sackhoff,
> best known for her role as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar
> Galactica," has been tapped to co-star on Fox's "24."
That should liven things up, a CTU staffer with muscles
bigger than Jack's, saying (and doing) "fracking" at
frequent intervals, and able to drink anyone else in sight
under the table.
Dano
We're all very happy for you. Write if you ever find something you like.
Dano
Can't wait to see her square off with Chloe.
Rob Jensen
>On the 20th TV/Imagine TV series, she will play Dana Walsh, a smart
>and competent expert data analyst at CTU with a secret past
She's the mole this year!!!!111!!!11!!1!
>who is involved with CTU agent Davis Cole (Freddie Prinze Jr.)
Until Buffy shows up and stakes her.
-- Rob
Mason Barge
>
> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
And just when I thought 24 couldn't get any funnier!
Maybe this will get Fred to watch. Let's just hope Janeane is back next
year, so Katee and Janeane can analyze data expertly together!!!1!
Pete B
21g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...
Maybe he's torturing her to death.
Aaron
Why are we still hearing from you, then?
-Aaron
ib...@san.rr.com
Oh, look! A young pup that can't read the newsgroups line!
Looks like it's *nap* time!!
Anim8rFSK
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
My friends say I have to start from Day One.
--
MEGA-SHARK VS GIANT OCTOPUS!
A new contender for "worst film of all time"
Deborah Gibson is like a Traci Lords without talent.
Brett A. Pasternack
> That should liven things up, a CTU staffer with muscles
> bigger than Jack's, saying (and doing) "fracking" at
> frequent intervals, and able to drink anyone else in sight
> under the table.
Not to mention that she can come back completely unaffected after being
dead for even longer than Jack can! B^)
Ken from Chicago
"Rob Jensen" <Shut...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:pjvq255u2t6j8d8a5...@4ax.com...
Oh no! They've reproduced!
How many frelling cylons are there after 150,000 years?!!
-- Ken from Chicago
Kujo
news:q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com:
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i
> 6c932f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
>
> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
> By Nellie Andreeva
>
> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
>
> After a couple of weeks of on-and-off negotiations, Katee Sackhoff,
> best known for her role as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar
> Galactica," has been tapped to co-star on Fox's "24."
>
> On the 20th TV/Imagine TV series, she will play Dana Walsh, a smart
> and competent expert data analyst at CTU with a secret past who is
> involved with CTU agent Davis Cole (Freddie Prinze Jr.)
>
> This marks the final major casting of a new regular for the show's
> upcoming eighth season, which is already in production.
>
> Sackhoff joins fellow new cast members Freddie Prinze Jr., Jennifer
> Westfeldt, Mykelti Williamson, John Boyd and Chris Diamantopoulos.
>
> Sackhoff most recently toplined NBC's pilot "Lost and Found."
>
> She is repped by Bleu and attorney Darren Trattner.
I like Katee Sackhoff and all, but I have a feeling Season/Day 8 will be
pretty bad. Season 7, though flawed, was a huge upgrade over the previous
season, which was minus the first 4 hours, was absolutely awful
I hope I'm wrong. I just wish they'd never go back to this CTU crap, that
old real quick.
Is Renee Walker going to be back? I guess not, which the setting relocating
to NY. Perhaps she'll make an appearance.
ravenlynne
Freddie Prinze Jr makes the show laughable.
Ken from Chicago
"ravenlynne" <raven...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h0ksq...@news3.newsguy.com...
Prinze Jr can be good.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-C398F...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
Lies. Day 1 only lets you in on some of the in-jokes (e.g., "cougar time",
Kim).
-- Ken from Chicago
Mason Barge
> "Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com...
>> > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6c932
>> > f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
>> >
>> > Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
>>
>>
>> And just when I thought 24 couldn't get any funnier!
>>
>> Maybe this will get Fred to watch. Let's just hope Janeane is back next
>> year, so Katee and Janeane can analyze data expertly together!!!1!
>
> My friends say I have to start from Day One.
Day 1 was fairly laughable. The only ones that were actually good (at least
in part) were 2 and 3. Elisha Cuthbert is a howl in 2 but there are some
great moments. Sarah Clarke owns ep. 3 -- wait until you see her kill a
Marine escort with a Mastercard! And there's this great scene where she has
Jack tied up and sexually molests him.
Anim8rFSK
ravenlynne <raven...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
But did he drink the shampoo?
ib...@san.rr.com
If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to watch
again...
:/
Hunter
diml...@yahoo.com says...
I hope she will be more than a data Analyst! She is the perfect
female Jack Bauer!! Any fellow "Battlestar Galactica" fans (new
version) remember when she tortured the #2 Cylon model Leoben Conoy
in the episode "Flesh and Bone" (S1XE8)? And physically she would be
very convincing in fight shots even against large males so it going
to be good, when she gets out into the field for some reason. C'mon,
you KNOW she is not going to be stuck in the office analyzing data
LOL!
I would love to see her in that role! Let's just hope she knows to
keep her cellphone on vibrate. :-)
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Rob Jensen
Something over 6 Billion. At least one of them even looks like a Six.
-- Rob
Hunter
xxxh@_xsomeething.com says...
More like the other way LOL. Seriously if you are a Battlestar
Galactica fan then you saw her during the mutiny Lt. Gaeta started.
If that wasn't female Jack Bauer I don't know. She didn't torture
anyone but she had no qualms with shooting a enemy prisoner (a
mutineer) LOL!
Aaron
-Aaron
Aaron
> On Jun 8, 10:43 pm, ravenlynne <ravenly...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 6/8/2009 10:35 PM, ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 1:15 pm, David<dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e...
>>>> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
>>>> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
>>>> By Nellie Andreeva
>>>> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
>>> Man, am I glad I stopped watching this a few years ago!!
>> Freddie Prinze Jr makes the show laughable.
>
> If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to watch
> again...
> :/
Ahh, so you aren't going to start watching just because of Starbuck. So
what was the point of your other attempt at justifying your existance on
alt.tv.24?
-Aaron
ib...@san.rr.com
Wow. You were one of the *slow* kids, huh?
Anim8rFSK
<6e478242-134c-4991...@h28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
> On Jun 9, 5:18�pm, Aaron <aaron...@msn.com> wrote:
> > ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
> > > On Jun 8, 10:43 pm, ravenlynne <ravenly...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On 6/8/2009 10:35 PM, ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Jun 8, 1:15 pm, David<dimla...@yahoo.com> �wrote:
> > >>>>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content display/television/news/e...
> > >>>> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
> > >>>> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
> > >>>> By Nellie Andreeva
> > >>>> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
> > >>> Man, am I glad I stopped watching this a few years ago!!
> > >> Freddie Prinze Jr makes the show laughable.
> >
> > > If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to watch
> > > again...
> > > :/
> >
> > Ahh, so you aren't going to start watching just because of Starbuck. So
> > what was the point of your other attempt at justifying your existance on
> > alt.tv.24?
>
> Wow. You were one of the *slow* kids, huh?
He's posting from the UK, where they call the show '25'
Default User
> ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
> > If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to watch
> > again...
> > :/
>
> Ahh, so you aren't going to start watching just because of Starbuck.
> So what was the point of your other attempt at justifying your
> existance on alt.tv.24?
This thread is cross-posted to a general television newsgroup.
Brian
--
Day 128 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project
Pete B
Pete B
says...
His wife isn't listening, so he is trying here ;)
Pete B
Pete B
ANIM...@cox.net says...
> In article <bsKdnT_Xbou0ArDX...@giganews.com>,
> "Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com...
> > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6c932
> > > f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
> > >
> > > Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
> >
> >
> > And just when I thought 24 couldn't get any funnier!
> >
> > Maybe this will get Fred to watch. Let's just hope Janeane is back next
> > year, so Katee and Janeane can analyze data expertly together!!!1!
>
> My friends say I have to start from Day One.
That's not true.
You don't have any friends.
*ba bom*
Thank you very much! Don't forget to tip the waitress!
Anthony Buckland
>>Oh no! They've reproduced!
>>
>>How many frelling cylons are there after 150,000 years?!!
>
> Something over 6 Billion. At least one of them even looks like a Six.
>
> -- Rob
One of us has to enlighten the non-BGers here.
The series ended with the revelation that around
150,000 years ago the remnants of BG's
non-mechanical complement ended their journeying
on our planet, including one half-human, half-cylon
child who became Mitochondrial Eve, the real-world
female whose mitochondrial DNA we all share.
Aaron
Hardly. You still don't get the fact that if you don't watch this show,
we don't want to hear from you on this newsgroup, do you? NOW who's slow?
LMAO
-Aaron
Aaron
> In article
> <6e478242-134c-4991...@h28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
>
>> On Jun 9, 5:18 pm, Aaron <aaron...@msn.com> wrote:
>>> ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
>>>> On Jun 8, 10:43 pm, ravenlynne <ravenly...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/8/2009 10:35 PM, ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 8, 1:15 pm, David<dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content display/television/news/e...
>>>>>>> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
>>>>>>> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
>>>>>>> By Nellie Andreeva
>>>>>>> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
>>>>>> Man, am I glad I stopped watching this a few years ago!!
>>>>> Freddie Prinze Jr makes the show laughable.
>>>> If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to watch
>>>> again...
>>>> :/
>>> Ahh, so you aren't going to start watching just because of Starbuck. So
>>> what was the point of your other attempt at justifying your existance on
>>> alt.tv.24?
>> Wow. You were one of the *slow* kids, huh?
>
> He's posting from the UK, where they call the show '25'
LOL
What happened to "attack the guy who says he doesn't watch the show, on
the show's newsgroup"? Why am I the only one having fun?
-Aaron
Aaron
> Aaron wrote:
>
>> ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
>
>>> If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to watch
>>> again...
>>> :/
>> Ahh, so you aren't going to start watching just because of Starbuck.
>> So what was the point of your other attempt at justifying your
>> existance on alt.tv.24?
>
> This thread is cross-posted to a general television newsgroup.
>
>
>
>
> Brian
So?
Crossposting is a sin in and of itself. You don't need to add to his
list of crimes =D
-Aaron
Aaron
Someone gets it, at least =D
-Aaron
Rob Jensen
You've said nothing that proves your assertion that people with Cylon
mDNA are not Cylon.
In fact, by citing mDNA, you disprove your own point because -- and
note this, 'cause it's important -- Hera's mDNA is Cylon *because it
comes from her mother, Athena, who is a Cylon.*
In BSG, modern humans come from the mDNA of a half-human/half-Cylon
female. And thus, *all* modern humans in the BSGU are, in fact,
Cylons. And humans. At the same time.
Goo goo goo-joob.
-- Rob
Anthony Buckland
Well, I didn't make an assertion, I just gave background
material to 24ers who didn't watch BG. If someone back
in the chain made the assertion you cite, maybe they can
respond. Ditto regarding whoever made a point. Anyhow,
if Hera's mDNA is Cylon, and one grants the association
of the fictional Hera with the real Mitochondrial Eve, then
we all have Cylon mDNA and in that sense are Cylon.
_Your_ point is well made and I agree with it. Rob Jensen's
additional observation, that we have a Six (attractive and highly
capable blonde, for the benefit of non-BGers) among us, is
also well taken. I wonder what that actress is doing now;
24 could certainly find a place for her.
Dano
Tricia Helfer is her name. She has been a regular on Burn Notice since last
season, but I'm not sure if she'll be a part of the new season that just got
started (second episode is tonight).
Default User
> Default User wrote:
> > Aaron wrote:
> >
> > > ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > > > If he can make Rachael Leigh Cook turn up, I may be forced to
> > > > watch again...
> > > > :/
> > > Ahh, so you aren't going to start watching just because of
> > > Starbuck. So what was the point of your other attempt at
> > > justifying your existance on alt.tv.24?
> >
> > This thread is cross-posted to a general television newsgroup.
> Crossposting is a sin in and of itself. You don't need to add to his
> list of crimes =D
I am unable derive any meaning from this comment. Sorry.
Brian
--
Day 129 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project
Rob Jensen
<anthonybuc...@telus.net> wrote:
Okay, my total bad! I think I have some reflex I didn't know about
regarding people who reacted negatively to the finale (or the finale
ten minutes) of BSG and that reflex just happens when the subject of
the BSG finale comes up no matter what side the poster is on.
Apologies!
Rob Jensen's
>additional observation, that we have a Six (attractive and highly
>capable blonde, for the benefit of non-BGers) among us, is
>also well taken. I wonder what that actress is doing now;
>24 could certainly find a place for her.
As someone else pointed out, she was on Burn Notice this past season
and i don't think she'll be without another series for too much
longer. I'd cast her as the new female lead on NCIS: The
Spin-Off-With-the-Stupid-Name now that Louise Lombard has been let go
from the show.
-- Rob
aemeijers
> On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:15:34 -0400, David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On the 20th TV/Imagine TV series, she will play Dana Walsh, a smart
>> and competent expert data analyst at CTU with a secret past
>
> She's the mole this year!!!!111!!!11!!1!
>
>> who is involved with CTU agent Davis Cole (Freddie Prinze Jr.)
>
> Until Buffy shows up and stakes her.
>
> -- Rob
In the first garage ambush scene, I hope they have Katee driving a
Viper.....
---
aem sends....
Ken from Chicago
"GASP! HORRORS! You've mixed traditional fantasy in my traditional scifi!"
> Rob Jensen's
>>additional observation, that we have a Six (attractive and highly
>>capable blonde, for the benefit of non-BGers) among us, is
>>also well taken. I wonder what that actress is doing now;
>>24 could certainly find a place for her.
>
> As someone else pointed out, she was on Burn Notice this past season
> and i don't think she'll be without another series for too much
> longer. I'd cast her as the new female lead on NCIS: The
> Spin-Off-With-the-Stupid-Name now that Louise Lombard has been let go
> from the show.
Tricia Helfer has shown on BSG that she's far more than a pretty face (legs,
hair, etc., tho she could eat a sandwich or too, being on the slender side).
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"aemeijers" <aeme...@att.net> wrote in message
news:8PhYl.64158$d36....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
But NOT the kind that transforms.
> ---
> aem sends....
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-C398F...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
>> In article <bsKdnT_Xbou0ArDX...@giganews.com>,
>> "Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com...
>>> > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6c932
>>> > f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe this will get Fred to watch. Let's just hope Janeane is back next
>>> year, so Katee and Janeane can analyze data expertly together!!!1!
>>
>> My friends say I have to start from Day One.
>
>
> least in part) were 2 and 3. Elisha Cuthbert is a howl in 2 but there are
> some great moments. Sarah Clarke owns ep. 3 -- wait until you see her
> kill a Marine escort with a Mastercard! And there's this great scene
> where she has Jack tied up and sexually molests him.
Day 5 is generally considered the best, with the first terrorist family and
... The Saga of Edgar!
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Hunter" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.24980af5f...@news.optonline.net...
> In article <q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com>,
> diml...@yahoo.com says...
>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6c932f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
>>
>> Katee Sackhoff to co-star on '24'
>> By Nellie Andreeva
>>
>> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
>>
>> best known for her role as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar
>> Galactica," has been tapped to co-star on Fox's "24."
>>
>> On the 20th TV/Imagine TV series, she will play Dana Walsh, a smart
>> involved with CTU agent Davis Cole (Freddie Prinze Jr.)
>>
>> upcoming eighth season, which is already in production.
>>
>> Sackhoff joins fellow new cast members Freddie Prinze Jr., Jennifer
>> Westfeldt, Mykelti Williamson, John Boyd and Chris Diamantopoulos.
>>
>> Sackhoff most recently toplined NBC's pilot "Lost and Found."
>>
>> She is repped by Bleu and attorney Darren Trattner.
> ---
> I hope she will be more than a data Analyst! She is the perfect
> female Jack Bauer!! Any fellow "Battlestar Galactica" fans (new
> version) remember when she tortured the #2 Cylon model Leoben Conoy
> in the episode "Flesh and Bone" (S1XE8)? And physically she would be
> very convincing in fight shots even against large males so it going
> to be good, when she gets out into the field for some reason. C'mon,
> you KNOW she is not going to be stuck in the office analyzing data
> LOL!
Bauer: "Whoa, there Special Agent Thrace. We need him alive to answer the
questions. Just beating him up won't suffice."
Thrace: "If he doesn't talk, then his corpse will be all the incentive we
need on his partner too talk. Now get your hands off me or I'll make you
wish you had died of that bioweapon."
> I would love to see her in that role! Let's just hope she knows to
> keep her cellphone on vibrate. :-)
> --
> ----->Hunter
>
> "No man in the wrong can stand up against
> a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
>
> -----William J. McDonald
> Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
Psst, Anim, they don't use metric time in the UK.
-- Ken from Chicago (who wishes there was metric time)
P.S. 100 "tics" to a "toc". 100 "tocs" to a "kron". 10 "krons" to a day and
your watch could be even simpler: 0:00:00-9:99:99.
P.P.S. 10 days to a "tenthnight", 3 "tenthnights" to a month, 12 months and
a "yearend" to a year. 5 days to a "yearend" (6 for a leap year) and all
calendars would be simple. Tenthnights would be Sunday thru Saturday plus 3
new days of the tenthnight (e.g., Octoday or Nepday, Nonoday or Pluday and
Decoday or Xenaday). All months would begin on Sundays as well as all years
and yearends. All dates would be on the same day of the tenthnight (e.g,
1st, 11th and 21st would be on Sundays, 2nd, 12th and 22nd on Mondays, 3rd,
13th and 23rd would be Tuesday, etc.) no matter what year ever.
Ken from Chicago
"Aaron" <aaro...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:h0piqv$uo8$7...@news.eternal-september.org...
You're not noticing the crosspost.
Ian could be posting a reply in rec.arts.tv.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
No, OFFTOPIC crossposting is the sin. Topical crossposting is legit.
The problem is that so often crossposting is so abused, crossposting
offtopically that it's become commonly assumed by more recent posters that
complaints about crossposts by veteran posters were only about the
crossposts themselves and not realize the complaints were really about the
off-topical nature of them (often highlighted by the fact they were
crossposted to political, religious and the ever ubiquitous wrestling
newsgroups).
-- Ken from Chicago
The Shadow
More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
Anim8rFSK
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
Silly Ken. That wasn't a metric joke, it was a frames per second joke!
Kweeg
news:MPG.24980af5f...@news.optonline.net...
> In article <q9sq25dltqqmfdf29...@4ax.com>,
> diml...@yahoo.com says...
>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6c932f87e11ed33aaa77cfe803942851
>>
>> Actress cast as a regular in the drama's next season
>> By Nellie Andreeva
>>
>> Jack Bauer will be getting help from Starbuck next season.
>>
>> best known for her role as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on "Battlestar
>> Galactica," has been tapped to co-star on Fox's "24."
> I hope she will be more than a data Analyst! She is the perfect
> female Jack Bauer!! Any fellow "Battlestar Galactica" fans (new
> version) remember when she tortured the #2 Cylon model Leoben Conoy
> in the episode "Flesh and Bone" (S1XE8)? And physically she would be
> very convincing in fight shots even against large males so it going
> to be good, when she gets out into the field for some reason. C'mon,
> you KNOW she is not going to be stuck in the office analyzing data
> LOL!
>
> keep her cellphone on vibrate. :-)
and here I thought she was gonna play "Faceman" Templeton in the upcoming
ATeam movie, the one that Liam Neeson is playing Hannibal Smith in.
{{;-/>
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
1,079,252,848.8 km/h, not just a good idea, it's the law.
"So say we all!"
Dano
>
> Tricia Helfer has shown on BSG that she's far more than a pretty face
> (legs, hair, etc., tho she could eat a sandwich or too, being on the
> slender side).
She's OK. Did a decent...if limited...job in Burn Notice too.
I think Katee Sackoff is a better actress at this point. But the couple of
roles I've seen her in (BSG...Six Million Dollar Chick or whatever that
was...an episode of L&O) were somewhat juicier. She has a less traditional
beauty too...I like that.
Dano
>
> More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
I take it you won't be satisfied until they all look like Barbie dolls?
Dano
>
> and here I thought she was gonna play "Faceman" Templeton in the
> upcoming ATeam movie, the one that Liam Neeson is playing Hannibal
> Smith in. {{;-/>
Good one. Wouldn't THAT really piss off you-know-who?
Kweeg
news:h10nmo$2lh$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Indeed. Regardless of whether the movie was good or bad I woulda laughed my
ass off.
Hunter
Shut...@aol.com says...
You're right but we are only PART Cylon, we are mostly,
overwhelmingly human, Colonial human and native New Earth human; but
you are right that part of our genome can be traced all the way back
to Athena through Hera. Now it is possible that we have other Cylon
genes from the patriarchal line. We can't trace back with precision
to our furthers common male ancestor. It is conceivable that perhaps
Baltar and Six had a kid, a male child who in turn had children with
a human so perhaps other Cylon genetic code survived but do to the
overwhelming number of pure humans (38,000 colonials and several
hundred thousands if not millions of Native humans) and the highly
unlikely hood of Cylons having off spring among themselves, or genes
are probably 99% Colonial/native human. We are humans with a tiny bit
of Cylon genes. With of course a tenuous tiny bit of an ability to
Project and share projections hence Bob Dylan rewriting Sam Anders's
"All Along the Watchtower" 150,000 years later and other things-or so
it is in the Battlestar Galactica Universe LOL.
Can't wait for "Caprica" to start. I liked the pilot movie.
SoHillsGuy
> Tricia Helfer is her name. She has been a regular on Burn Notice since last
> season, but I'm not sure if she'll be a part of the new season that just got
> started (second episode is tonight).
Unless there's a resurrection ship somewhere close, Tricia's character
will not be back on "Burn Notice"...
SoHillsGuy
>
> Is Renee Walker going to be back? I guess not, which the setting relocating
> to NY. Perhaps she'll make an appearance.
Renee Walker is returning next season.
Dano
Yeah...I guess you're right...I know she was shot...are you sure they
determined she was dead? Short attention span these days...but as a Lost
and 24 fan, one never knows what dead really means any more on some shows.
They sure left little doubt about Michael Shank's character...too bad.
You also could have assumed Michael was shark bait in last season's finale.
BTW...does anyone else think Moon Bloodgood is horribly miscast as the
detective?
This might be the first thing I've seen her in that didn't involve time
travel. I'm not liking the writing so far this season either.
Hunter
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
Yes she is a great actress although I have been wowed at some of the
performances of Grace Park on BSG. Grace would look better with at
least another 10-15 pounds on her, but I would gladly take her as she
is!
Hunter
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
Edgar's death caught me completely by surprise. :-) Day 5 was great.
I wonder if we will ever see the terrorist family's son? Is he looked
up or in witness protection as a reward for helping CTU? He'd be a
grown man by now, taking into account the time jumps between the
days.
Ken from Chicago
<snip>
>> Tricia Helfer has shown on BSG that she's far more than a pretty face
>> (legs,
>> hair, etc., tho she could eat a sandwich or too, being on the slender
>> side).
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
> ---
> Yes she is a great actress although I have been wowed at some of the
> performances of Grace Park on BSG. Grace would look better with at
> least another 10-15 pounds on her, but I would gladly take her as she
> is!
> --
> ----->Hunter
Agreed. Same goes for Grace.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. Stupid Hollywood / fashion world, let the women eat! It's not a crime
if they weigh in the triple digits.
Ken from Chicago
The clock went silent!
> I wonder if we will ever see the terrorist family's son? Is he looked
> up or in witness protection as a reward for helping CTU? He'd be a
> grown man by now, taking into account the time jumps between the
> days.
> --
> ----->Hunter
My bad, the first terrorist family was Season 4. Season 5 had a "dead" Jack
Bauer brought back in from the cold.
24 is arguably in 2018 by now.
Season 1 debuted November 2001 (after being edited after 9/11) set in the
election year campaign of David Palmer from California, so 2001+3 = 2004.
Season 2 was 18 months later.
Season 3 was 36 months later.
Season 4 was 18 months later.
2004 + 72 mos = 2004 + 6 yrs = 2010
Season 5 was 18 months later.
Season 6 was 20 mos later.
2010 + 38 mos = 2010 + 3 yrs and 2 mos = 2013 and 2 mos.
2004+1.5+3+1.5+1.5+1.666=2013.166
Season 7 the Redemption movie was at new prez inaugural: Jan 2017
Season 8 going by history would likely be 18 months hence: Sep 2018
"Behrooz Araz", played by then 14 year-old Jonathan Ahdout, would be 8 years
older in Season 8. The same actor, now 20 years old, could arguably play the
character again.
-- Ken from Chicago
The Shadow
Me?
No, I like the anatomy of real women.
Anim8rFSK
The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
Katie Sackoff looks like many things, none of them being a woman.
Wouter Valentijn
> "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:h10nmo$2lh$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Kweeg wrote:
>>>
>>> and here I thought she was gonna play "Faceman" Templeton in the
>>> upcoming ATeam movie, the one that Liam Neeson is playing Hannibal
>>> Smith in. {{;-/>
>>
>> Good one. Wouldn't THAT really piss off you-know-who?
>
>
> Indeed. Regardless of whether the movie was good or bad I woulda
> laughed my ass off.
Does that mean that Dirk Benedict is gonna play professor Bickford's son?
--
Wouter Valentijn www.j3v.net
Buffy: This is the Initiative Xander. Military guys and scientists do not
make out with each other.
Xander: Well maybe that's wrong with the world. Ever think about that?
'Buffy the Vampire Slayer 4x14: Goodbye Iowa'
liam=mail
Kweeg
> In article <l4WdnWtJauhRiajX...@bright.net>,
> The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>
>> Dano wrote:
>> > The Shadow wrote:
>> >> More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
>> >
>> > I take it you won't be satisfied until they all look like Barbie dolls?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Me?
>>
>>
>> No, I like the anatomy of real women.
>
> Katie Sackoff looks like many things, none of them being a woman.
Whatta maroon. Sounds like Anim8r wouldn't know what to do with a woman
unless she had staples though her navel....
and Anim8r opinion is usually sooo right too.... after all he's the genius
who told us the new Star Trek movie was gonna suck *months* before he or
anyone else had seen it.
The Shadow
> In article <l4WdnWtJauhRiajX...@bright.net>,
> The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>
>> Dano wrote:
>>> The Shadow wrote:
>>>> More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
>>> I take it you won't be satisfied until they all look like Barbie dolls?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Me?
>>
>>
>> No, I like the anatomy of real women.
>
> Katie Sackoff looks like many things, none of them being a woman.
>
Well, she is not my type.
However, her performance in Nip/Tuck as the homicidal anesthesiologist
is top notch.
Anim8rFSK
The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
I'll take your word for it; I've only seen her in BSG and Moronic Woman.
Granted she was better in the latter, but it wasn't exactly a nuanced
performance.
Ian J. Ball
> In article <S6ednXfgN_e6r6jXnZ2dnUVZ_oedn...@bright.net>,
> The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>
> > However, her performance in Nip/Tuck as the homicidal anesthesiologist
> > is top notch.
>
> I'll take your word for it; I've only seen her in BSG and Moronic Woman.
> Granted she was better in the latter, but it wasn't exactly a nuanced
> performance.
The only thing I've ever seen Sackhoff be halfway decent in was a
Lifetime movie. I guess, based on that, she's capable. But I think
she's woefully miscast as one of these 'tough, ball-busting' chicks.
If the Lifetime movie was any indication, she'd actually be better at
playing more normal, girl-next-door types...
Mason Barge
wrote:
>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:ANIM8Rfsk-A0695...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
>> In article <l4WdnWtJauhRiajX...@bright.net>,
>> The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dano wrote:
>>> > The Shadow wrote:
>>> >> More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
>>> >
>>> > I take it you won't be satisfied until they all look like Barbie dolls?
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Me?
>>>
>>>
>>> No, I like the anatomy of real women.
>>
>> Katie Sackoff looks like many things, none of them being a woman.
>
>
>Whatta maroon. Sounds like Anim8r wouldn't know what to do with a woman
>unless she had staples though her navel....
No doubt correct, but Sackhoff still sux. My gosh, have you ever seen
how ugly her feet are?
And what does "staples through her navel" mean, anyway?
Kweeg
news:vssa35h56pva2kqm2...@4ax.com...
whatever Mr foot fetishist
> And what does "staples through her navel" mean, anyway?
sigh... centrefolds usually have staples though their navels
Brad Templeton
for the work that actors from a show do in another show. I'm not
saying the actors on BSG aren't good actors, aren't worth of fans
who like to follow what they do. But they aren't more (or less)
worthy of that because they were on BSG (or any other show you like.)
It's like there is this automatic assumption that, if I liked BSG,
I am particularly likely to be a Sackhoff fan. Not saying that I
am or am not.
I see this around nearly every show. The message boards will get
long threads about what the actors are doing, sometimes in their
personal lives, sometimes in their work. I would understand it if
you were talking about the writers, directors, producers, or actors
in a "star vehicle" show where the one actor is clearly what made
the show what it was. But there's a difference from saying that
you enjoyed Sackhoff's work to saying that she was the reason to
tune into the show.
But the phenomenon clearly goes beyond that. I will often see
threads about actors who very clearly are not first-rate, who
very clearly were not a primary reason fans tuned in. It is
as though the fact that they were in a show you liked somehow
blesses them, and makes them more interesting in another show.
It's also part of our over-fascination with actors, who are of
course the visible front of a show. My own feeling is that
while good acting is always worthwhile, and indeed necessay to
true quality, writing, direction and production are far more
important. You can have a great show with good writing and
mediocre actors, but you can't have a great show with great
actors and mediocre writing.
Now I gave up on 24 long ago, it just got too ridiculous that
I could no longer suspend disbelief. So Sackhoff's appearance
won't bring me back to it. Nor, can I say, would it really shift
my view if I were on the edge.
So for those who do have this fascination, who would say, "I was
not going to watch 24 but I will now that Sackhoff is in it,"
what are your reasons? Is it because you've become a true fan of
hers and think she is first rate, and you simply came to that
conclusion by watching her in BSG? Is it because she reminds
you of your dear departed favourite show? Something else?
I'm not saying we should have no interest in the actors, of course.
Just that we seem to have a lot more than is warranted.
--
Has it been more than a year since you last donated to the EFF?
http://www.templetons.com/brad/eff.html
Dano
"Brad Templeton" <b...@templetons.com> wrote in message
<long dissertation on liking or disliking certain actors snipped>
> I'm not saying we should have no interest in the actors, of course.
> Just that we seem to have a lot more than is warranted.
> --
You seem to have really spent a lot of time concerning yourself about this.
Given THAT any thought? <g>
Ken from Chicago
"Kweeg" <kw...@nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:hVeZl.49227$jT6....@newsfe17.iad...
> "Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vssa35h56pva2kqm2...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:18:10 -0700, "Kweeg" <kw...@nospam.shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:ANIM8Rfsk-A0695...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>> In article <l4WdnWtJauhRiajX...@bright.net>,
>>>> The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dano wrote:
>>>>> > The Shadow wrote:
>>>>> >> More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I take it you won't be satisfied until they all look like Barbie
>>>>> > dolls?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Me?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I like the anatomy of real women.
>>>>
>>>> Katie Sackoff looks like many things, none of them being a woman.
>>>
>>>
>>>Whatta maroon. Sounds like Anim8r wouldn't know what to do with a woman
>>>unless she had staples though her navel....
>>
>> No doubt correct, but Sackhoff still sux. My gosh, have you ever seen
>> how ugly her feet are?
>
> whatever Mr foot fetishist
>
>> And what does "staples through her navel" mean, anyway?
>
> sigh... centrefolds usually have staples though their navels
Yes, as in fitting the "centerfold" standard, akin to someone having
"fashion model" looks. Some looks are more unconventional.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
> In article <S6ednXfgN_e6r6jX...@bright.net>,
> The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> > In article <l4WdnWtJauhRiajX...@bright.net>,
>> > The Shadow <mie...@bright.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dano wrote:
>> >>> The Shadow wrote:
>> >>>> More then likely she will be back on next seasons Nip/Tuck as well.
>> >>> I take it you won't be satisfied until they all look like Barbie
>> >>> dolls?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Me?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No, I like the anatomy of real women.
>> >
>> > Katie Sackoff looks like many things, none of them being a woman.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, she is not my type.
>>
>> However, her performance in Nip/Tuck as the homicidal anesthesiologist
>> is top notch.
>
> I'll take your word for it; I've only seen her in BSG and Moronic Woman.
> Granted she was better in the latter, but it wasn't exactly a nuanced
> performance.
Plus it was enhanced by comparison to the peformance in the latter of the
titular character.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
>I have to admit I remain perplexed at the intense fascination fans show
> for the work that actors from a show do in another show. I'm not
> saying the actors on BSG aren't good actors, aren't worth of fans
> who like to follow what they do. But they aren't more (or less)
> worthy of that because they were on BSG (or any other show you like.)
>
> It's like there is this automatic assumption that, if I liked BSG,
> I am particularly likely to be a Sackhoff fan. Not saying that I
> am or am not.
>
> I see this around nearly every show. The message boards will get
> long threads about what the actors are doing, sometimes in their
> personal lives, sometimes in their work. I would understand it if
> you were talking about the writers, directors, producers, or actors
> in a "star vehicle" show where the one actor is clearly what made
> the show what it was. But there's a difference from saying that
> you enjoyed Sackhoff's work to saying that she was the reason to
> tune into the show.
<snip>
It's art.
People bond emotionally to art and by extention the artists involved in
their creation, be they actors, writers, directors, producers, musicians,
singers, painters, dancers, etc. The bond can be particularly strong with tv
actors because they can be often seen as their characters weekly--if not
daily--in the comfort of one's own home, further cementing the emotional
bonds.
A variation of it exists among fans. If we all like a show, then we must
have something in common, and thus it becomes all the more shocking when we
disagree about liking another show. "How could these people who have the
goodly sense to like A but not like B or who like A yet like C which is A's
polar opposite?"
Then again, some tastes are just individual. For example, why would someone
think Katee Sackhoff is hideous looking in BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-USUS291US313&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=katee+sackhoff
Yet adores Lisa Ryder in ANDROMEDA?
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-USUS291US313&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=lisa+ryder
When both actresses resemble each other so much they could be sisters? Not
to mention their respective characters resemble each other, the tough as
nails pilot with a more sensitive but wounded heart of gold?
Then again, it could be something common to animation: The "uncanny valley".
Where the resemblence of two items come so close that the audience stop
focusing on the resemblence and instead focus on the differences.
Maybe that applies to audiences seeing actors playing different roles, or
similar roles (e.g., Sarah Michelle Gellar starring in various horror
stories yet as differing characters in I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER,
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, SCREAM 2, THE GRUDGE, SCOOBY DOO). The resemblence
is so great that the differences are focused on until the audience responds
on a visceral level.
-- Ken from Chicago
Hunter
janea...@yahoo.com says...
Dirk Benedict? LOL!
Dano
Anim8r likes them more cartoonish. I'm thinking Jessica Rabbit.
Mason Barge
Templeton) wrote:
...
...
>So for those who do have this fascination, who would say, "I was
>not going to watch 24 but I will now that Sackhoff is in it,"
>what are your reasons?
I was going to watch 24 and will continue to do so even though Katee
is in it. I mean, I made it through this season with the
even-more-toxic Janeane Garofolo.
>Is it because you've become a true fan of
>hers and think she is first rate, and you simply came to that
>conclusion by watching her in BSG?
The only conclusion that I came to from watching her in BSG is that
she was sleeping with someone important and, by extension, that
someone important is extremely hard up.
> Is it because she reminds
>you of your dear departed favourite show? Something else?
I had some bad tuna fish last week, she sorta' reminds me of that.
Brad Templeton
>
>People bond emotionally to art and by extention the artists involved in
>their creation, be they actors, writers, directors, producers, musicians,
>singers, painters, dancers, etc. The bond can be particularly strong with tv
>actors because they can be often seen as their characters weekly--if not
>daily--in the comfort of one's own home, further cementing the emotional
>bonds.
Yes, I understand this, but it still seems to go beyond that. I wonder
if people who truly feel this have a rational, rather than emotional
explanation for it.
In some ways, it has counter-factors. When you become a fan of an actor
and a show, it becomes hard to see them in their new character. You are
constantly reminded of their old role. Many actors have seen their careers
fail because of this, directors don't want to cast them. It takes a bigger
actor to get over this. Harrison Ford got past people seeing him as Han
Solo. And I'm impressed that in Dollhouse, I stopped seeing Penikett as
Helo -- perhaps because his role in Dollhouse was larger. Shatner I now
see as Shatner rather than Kirk, but not as his new character.
>
>Then again, some tastes are just individual. For example, why would someone
>think Katee Sackhoff is hideous looking in BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?
>http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-USUS291US313&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=katee+sackhoff
>Yet adores Lisa Ryder in ANDROMEDA?
>
>http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_en-USUS291US313&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=lisa+ryder
>
>When both actresses resemble each other so much they could be sisters? Not
I don't think so but I have an unusual perspective. Lisa's my brother's
ex. Not that I know her very well, I've seen her on screen more than
in real life since we diddn't see one another a lot at that time.
I thought Lisa looked nicer in that vampire show she was in, and
that Lexa Doig looked better in Andromeda.
But Starbuck's a deeper-written character than Beka, no fault of Lisa's -
the writing on BSG was much better, as much as I might hat the ending,
so I can see people having different perspectives.
--
Analysis blog for Battlestar Galactica Fans -- http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar
Mason Barge
Templeton) wrote:
>In article <LPWdndFF7NbKi6vX...@giganews.com>,
>Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>It's art.
>>
>>People bond emotionally to art and by extention the artists involved in
>>their creation, be they actors, writers, directors, producers, musicians,
>>singers, painters, dancers, etc. The bond can be particularly strong with tv
>>actors because they can be often seen as their characters weekly--if not
>>daily--in the comfort of one's own home, further cementing the emotional
>>bonds.
>
>Yes, I understand this, but it still seems to go beyond that. I wonder
>if people who truly feel this have a rational, rather than emotional
>explanation for it.
Well, it's an emotional phenomenon. You can try to explain it
rationally but it would take a lot of effort.
If fiction did not fool part of our minds into thinking it is real, at
some level, nobody would watch it. I flew a 747 simulator once and I
became extremely anxious. People duck in 3d movies when things fly
off the screen at them. People cried like babies when Old Yeller
died, even though no dog actually died and the dog portrayed as dying
had little in common with the dog on screen. Hell, the fictional dog
might actually have been two different dogs, like Lassie.
You know, St. Augustine wondered about this. It's an old question.
Anthony Buckland
> In article <LPWdndFF7NbKi6vX...@giganews.com>,
> Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>It's art.
>>
>>People bond emotionally to art and by extention the artists involved in
>>their creation, be they actors, writers, directors, producers, musicians,
>>singers, painters, dancers, etc. The bond can be particularly strong with
>>tv
>>actors because they can be often seen as their characters weekly--if not
>>daily--in the comfort of one's own home, further cementing the emotional
>>bonds.
>
> Yes, I understand this, but it still seems to go beyond that. I wonder
> if people who truly feel this have a rational, rather than emotional
> explanation for it.
>
> In some ways, it has counter-factors. When you become a fan of an actor
I'm reminded of one particular example of the opposite
problem, an actor dies and the role isn't written out but
kept with a new actor. This happened with the Ewing
matriarch on Dallas. The rest of the family were still
there, acted by the people we'd gotten used to for years.
But here they are, talking to this strange woman -- don't
they realize this isn't JR's mother? How is this imposter
fooling them?
It works with Dr. Who, of whom it is expected that he will
die periodically and come back with a strange face, but
that's a very special case. It works with James Bond
because ... well, it just does.
redhawk
> In article <LPWdndFF7NbKi6vXnZ2dnUVZ_gKdn...@giganews.com>,
> Ken from Chicago <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >It's art.
>
> >People bond emotionally to art and by extention the artists involved in
> >their creation, be they actors, writers, directors, producers, musicians,
> >singers, painters, dancers, etc. The bond can be particularly strong with tv
> >actors because they can be often seen as their characters weekly--if not
> >daily--in the comfort of one's own home, further cementing the emotional
> >bonds.
>
> Yes, I understand this, but it still seems to go beyond that. I wonder
> if people who truly feel this have a rational, rather than emotional
> explanation for it.
>
There are plenty of rational reasons that humans respond positively to
a familiar face. Sticking together and keeping the tribe intact once
were evolutionary imperatives of survival. The brain naturally
recognizes the faces of people it "knows," and is pleased to see them,
unless of course it recognizes them as hostile. The effect works even
when we only "know" the person from television or the movies, they are
still a member of "our tribe" in a basic natural sense.
phil k.
> And I'm impressed that in Dollhouse, I stopped seeing Penikett as Helo
> -- perhaps because his role in Dollhouse was larger.
Lucky you.
Especially in one of the final episodes, in which Peniket gave his "you
can't erase a human's soul" kinda speech (which really got on Topher's
and /my/ nerves) he was very Helo to me.
And if Helo is onto something that stinks, he magically is always right
-- be it the murdering Doctor or that Athena can be trusted -- or as in
Dollhouse's case: it's of course true that there is an omnius something
inside (or maybe worse: outside ^^) a human's brain that can't be erased.
phil k.
<snipped all the true stuff>
> You can have a great show with good writing and mediocre actors, but
> you can't have a great show with great actors and mediocre writing.
I concure, and yet I am as well guilty of this behaviour. I tuned into
quite a few shows because I learned that there was an actor in it, I
liked. It's just this stupid urge that you want to know what your
"friends" are doing, as it's almost like you "know" the guys.
I started Sarah Connor Chronicles but turned the pilot off after 10
minutes, as soon as I heard they actually had Summer Glau (Firefly)
playing in it, I was back on.
I tuned in Castle because of Nathan Fillion (Buffy/Firefly), and I just
like the guy. The script doesn't do much to destroy that impression so I
am staying with it.
Funny sidenote: David Boreanaz (Angel) was one aspect that got me into
the show, and one of the first who got me out of it. His character became
such an unlikeable asshole, and was often reduced to a sheer comic
relief. (And he solved a case by having a dream and another by seeing a
ghost ...)
> Now I gave up on 24 long ago, it just got too ridiculous that I could no
> longer suspend disbelief.
It's the same here. I watched the first season as it really was something
new the time it came out, but the Rambo-attitude of Jack Bauer got me off
the show after watching the pilot of the second season.
> So Sackhoff's appearance won't bring me
> back to it. Nor, can I say, would it really shift my view if I were on
> the edge.
>
> So for those who do have this fascination, who would say, "I was not
> going to watch 24 but I will now that Sackhoff is in it,"
I wouldn't. But if they would hire Grace Park or Summer Glau, I probably
will give the show a second try ;)
> what are your
> reasons?
Well ...
> Is it because you've become a true fan of hers and think she
> is first rate, and you simply came to that conclusion by watching her in
> BSG?
No.
> Is it because she reminds you of your dear departed favourite
> show?
Not quite.
> Something else?
Let me put it this way: I'll be in my bunk.
Audie Murphy's Ghost
<usene...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Brad Templeton scribbled:
>
> <snipped all the true stuff>
> > You can have a great show with good writing and mediocre actors, but
> > you can't have a great show with great actors and mediocre writing.
>
> I concure, and yet I am as well guilty of this behaviour. I tuned into
> quite a few shows because I learned that there was an actor in it, I
> liked. It's just this stupid urge that you want to know what your
> "friends" are doing, as it's almost like you "know" the guys.
Jon Favreau once told the panel on his Dinner for Five show that, when
considering whether to do a project, an actor can take a chance on the
script, a chance on the director, or a chance on the other lead actor
-- but that an actor should never take a chance on two of those things
at once. I think it must be the same for audiences.
I agree that good, even great, actors can't make up for lackluster
writing, but a good script can make mediocre actors shine -- but
probably only with help from a really good director.
~consul
> The clock went silent!
One of the best moments on modern TV! Silent Clock, as opposed to the LOST logo where they tried to play with the mood using it differently this past season. Bleach.
> Season 4 was 18 months later.
Marwan was always my most fav villian. Calm, collected, never degenerated into crazy.
> "Behrooz Araz", played by then 14 year-old Jonathan Ahdout, would be 8 years
> older in Season 8. The same actor, now 20 years old, could arguably play the
> character again.
Good actor.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Dawnie
Templeton) wrote:
>I have to admit I remain perplexed at the intense fascination fans show
>for the work that actors from a show do in another show.
>[..] I will often see
>threads about actors who very clearly are not first-rate, who
>very clearly were not a primary reason fans tuned in. It is
>as though the fact that they were in a show you liked somehow
>blesses them, and makes them more interesting in another show.
Similar to the emotional bond Ken from Chicago mentioned, sometimes
the audience just enjoys seeing a particular actor onscreen.
Familiarity can be comforting, and can contribute to one's enjoyment
of a new show where everything else is unfamiliar.
>So for those who do have this fascination, who would say, "I was
>not going to watch 24 but I will now that Sackhoff is in it,"
>what are your reasons? Is it because you've become a true fan of
>hers and think she is first rate, and you simply came to that
>conclusion by watching her in BSG? Is it because she reminds
>you of your dear departed favourite show? Something else?
I don't exactly fall into the category of people you refer to, but I
do enjoy watching certain actors onscreen for various reasons--they're
nice to ogle <g>, they're charismatic, they have a strong screen
presence, they have a great voice etc. I may not automatically like a
show because of the actor's imminent appearance, but I *will* be more
interested in giving the show a chance because I'll get to see the
actor onscreen. Now whether or not I continue watching, is another
story. To use a marketing term, you could say that the actors I like
provide a "foot-in-the-door" effect for me.
>I'm not saying we should have no interest in the actors, of course.
>Just that we seem to have a lot more than is warranted.
Sure. Isn't that what makes them celebrities?
Zombie Elvis
>
>Funny sidenote: David Boreanaz (Angel) was one aspect that got me into
>the show, and one of the first who got me out of it. His character became
>such an unlikeable asshole, and was often reduced to a sheer comic
>relief. (And he solved a case by having a dream and another by seeing a
>ghost ...)
>
I actually had the opposite attitude towards Angel. I hated Angel when
he was on Buffy and attributed it to a lack of acting skills on
Boreanaz's part. But I tuned in to Angel because I loved Buffy and
wanted to give it a chance. I found myself pleasantly surprised at how
good Boreanaz was in Angel. In fact, his ability to go from
"unlikeable asshole" to goofy was one of the things that kept me
watching Angel even as the plot seemed to be going off the rails.
--
"Please captain, not in front of the Klingons."
-- Spock
Roberto Castillo
roberto...@ameritech.net
http://mind-grapes.blogspot.com/
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phil k.
>>Funny sidenote: David Boreanaz (Angel) was one aspect that got me into
>>the show, and one of the first who got me out of it. His character
>>became such an unlikeable asshole, and was often reduced to a sheer
>>comic relief. (And he solved a case by having a dream and another by
>>seeing a ghost ...)
My bad: I forgot to mention that I was talking about the show _Bones_. I
knew Boreanaz from Buffy/Angel, liked him there, follwed him to _Bones_,
and on _Bones_ he was the first one to turn me off.
> I actually had the opposite attitude towards Angel.
And with that out of the way, we had the same attitude towards Angel.
> I hated Angel when
> he was on Buffy and attributed it to a lack of acting skills on
> Boreanaz's part.
> But I tuned in to Angel because I loved Buffy and
> wanted to give it a chance. I found myself pleasantly surprised at how
> good Boreanaz was in Angel. In fact, his ability to go from "unlikeable
> asshole" to goofy was one of the things that kept me watching Angel even
> as the plot seemed to be going off the rails. --
Yes. But again, I was talking about _Bones_, not Angel. I beg your
pardon :)
Zombie Elvis
>Zombie Elvis scribbled:
>
>> I hated Angel when
>> he was on Buffy and attributed it to a lack of acting skills on
>> Boreanaz's part.
>> But I tuned in to Angel because I loved Buffy and
>> wanted to give it a chance. I found myself pleasantly surprised at how
>> good Boreanaz was in Angel. In fact, his ability to go from "unlikeable
>> asshole" to goofy was one of the things that kept me watching Angel even
>> as the plot seemed to be going off the rails. --
>
>Yes. But again, I was talking about _Bones_, not Angel. I beg your
>pardon :)
Interesting post-script....When Bone came out I mostly tuned in for
Boreanaz and have generally liked that show in no large part because I
like him and his character....
--
"I recall a time not long ago when a bullet in the chest meant a
sucking chest wound, not a quick bandage job and a climactic
final confrontation with a criminal mastermind atop an unfinished
skyscraper."
- Seen on The Onion