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Nick Sayer

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Feb 18, 1991, 8:06:04 PM2/18/91
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[ When I saw the intro, I knew this one had real potential. I was
not disapointed. This one's in the top 20. ]

"And All That Rot"
Written by Eddie Fitzgerald
Directed by Rich Arons
[ Buster, Babs, Monty, Elmyra ]

[ Double length short. This one was really funny. I cracked up every
second. I loved how they made fun of other cartoon stars. I just
wonder how a US Mail box was to be found on the shores of Merry Olde
England. A ]

"Day for Knight"
Written by Earl Kress, Tom Minton & Jim Reardon
Directed by Rich Arons
[ Buster, Babs, Woody Allen cameo: Hamton, Sweetie, Shirley, Monty, Arnold ]

[ This was another winner. The Monty Python references were
great. The Woody Allen Dragon was another nice touch. A ]

Music by Richard Stone

Starring the voices of:

Charlie Adler as Buster
Tress MacNeille as Babs
Cree Summer as Elmyra
Danny Cooksey as Montana
Frank Welker as Furrball
Maurice LaMarche as Dizzy
Gail Matthius as Shirley
Rob Paulsen as Concord
Jeff Bergman as Yosemite Sam
Don Messick as Hamton

[ Come on! Concord and Yosemite Sam?! Why don't they just tell us who
they REALLY were?! Who did Woody Allen? ]

Animation services - Freelance Graphics Ltd. [And they're not bad]

Guy who thinks it's 1947 - Charlie Bean [These are getting stupid]

Tag - Elmyra: "Let the show begin!"

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Erik Donley Olson

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Feb 18, 1991, 11:24:27 PM2/18/91
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OK, I'm annoyed now! They showed a repeat of "Furrball's Travels"
on KSTW today. Blech.
Anyone else's programming schedule deviate from Nick's?

--
Erik D. Olson don...@milton.u.washington.edu

Quoth the raven... "Eat my shorts!" "BART!!!"

Larry Setlow

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Feb 18, 1991, 11:55:31 PM2/18/91
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In article <16...@milton.u.washington.edu> don...@milton.u.washington.edu (Erik Donley Olson) writes:
OK, I'm annoyed now! They showed a repeat of "Furrball's Travels"
on KSTW today. Blech.
You mean you weren't already annoyed with the almost-always cut tags
and most-of-the-time cut joke credits and Rosco's explanation that ALF
is coming up next (which obscures the credits, usually during the
voice credits)? You've more patience than I. I think I'll buy a
house, just so I can get a satellite dish.

Anyone else's programming schedule deviate from Nick's?

Yeah, is KSTW just completely wrong in the head?

Jeffrey Klein

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Feb 19, 1991, 10:26:01 AM2/19/91
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mra...@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer) writes:

>"And All That Rot"
>Written by Eddie Fitzgerald
>Directed by Rich Arons
>[ Buster, Babs, Monty, Elmyra ]

>[ Double length short. This one was really funny. I cracked up every
>second. I loved how they made fun of other cartoon stars. I just
>wonder how a US Mail box was to be found on the shores of Merry Olde
>England. A ]

Did anybody get the feeling this was supposed to be a Plucky episode? I
wouldn't think of Buster being naturally mean to a little dog, or jumping
to obviously inaccurate conclusions, or ending an episode lost in Alaska...
Babs didn't act very zany either.

>Guy who thinks it's 1947 - Charlie Bean [These are getting stupid]

This guy was in the credits - what's he do?


- Jeff Klein

Erik Donley Olson

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Feb 19, 1991, 12:41:56 PM2/19/91
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p...@cpac.washington.edu (Larry Setlow) writes:

>You mean you weren't already annoyed with the almost-always cut tags
>and most-of-the-time cut joke credits and Rosco's explanation that ALF
>is coming up next (which obscures the credits, usually during the
>voice credits)? You've more patience than I. I think I'll buy a
>house, just so I can get a satellite dish.

You forgot about the last week where they've cut off the bottom 1/3 of the
screen with the "Stop Calling. We've already given away today's prize"
message for 10 minutes. Yes, I hate KSTW's attitude and mono broacasts
and really lousy Rosco spots (in fact I usually give the TV the finger
when they cover a credit). I'll be quite happy if TTA's signing on with
Fox means they'll be picked up by KCPQ-13 which doesn't do such junk
(and broadcasts in stereo!).

David H. Huang

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Feb 19, 1991, 10:10:43 PM2/19/91
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In article <SJE.91Fe...@bubba.ma30.bull.com> s...@bubba.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:

> Regrettably, many stations common step on the end credit roll
>either by truncation or by wiping out the audio. I am really

KBVO here in Austin is very good about not messing with the Tiny Toons
credits, although they do plug Head of the Class and ALF on some other
'toons. They show it way too early though... 7 in the morning! Ack!

On a different subject: I loved today's _The Raven_. It was even
better than the one on the Simpsons Halloween special.

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Ron Prine

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Feb 19, 1991, 4:53:36 PM2/19/91
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In article <kMB...@quack.sac.ca.us> mra...@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer) writes:

>[ This was another winner. The Monty Python references were
>great. The Woody Allen Dragon was another nice touch. A ]

stuff deleted


>Jeff Bergman as Yosemite Sam

On Larry King (radio show) of 2/18 Jeff Bergman was on. He did all
the voices of the Bugs Bunny movie. He did his woody Allen and other
voices during the show and I was very inpressed. One thing about the
show that I found nice was the sound of the voices was much better on
the radio than on the cartoons.

For those muppet fans. He (Bergman) made a comment that he was
willing to do Kermit and also was willing to learn puppetry. From
what I heard of his skills, he could very well fill the voice in
perfectly.

Later
--
Ron Prine pr...@image.lle.rochester.edu

Steven J. Edwards

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Feb 19, 1991, 3:59:22 PM2/19/91
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Regrettably, many stations common step on the end credit roll
either by truncation or by wiping out the audio. I am really
surprised that the various guilds haven't complained about this; I'm
sure that crediting issues are well covered in artists' and actors'
contracts.

One of the Tiny Toon carrier offenders is WLVI (channel 56,
Cambridge, Massachusetts). These clowns regularly wipe the last part
of the credit roll for some stupid repetitive advertisement for their
own schedule. They have been notified of this, but do nothing.

Another goon is WPIX (channel 11, New York City); these
misanthropes regularly wipe end credit audio, perform a visual
compression, and overlay an obnoxious local news chit-chat with audio
at the bottom of the screen.

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Curtis R Anderson

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Feb 20, 1991, 7:43:33 PM2/20/91
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>s...@bubba.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:
>
>
> Regrettably, many stations common step on the end credit roll
> either by truncation or by wiping out the audio. I am really
> surprised that the various guilds haven't complained about this; I'm
> sure that crediting issues are well covered in artists' and actors'
> contracts.

I thought WUTV, Fox 29 in Buffalo was bad. Their biggest "crime" is a ten
second station ID instead of five. So we lose ca. 5 seconds of the ending of
TTA 50-60% of the time, only once (that I know) was the toon tag clipped, but
still recognizable. So we essentially lose the Amblin Entertainment and Warner
Brothers Television Distribution bumpers at the end (ca. 5 seconds).

As far as "stepping on the audio," Fox 29 runs a 15 second audio dub for the
next show, TMNT, while preserving some of the audio.

One other problem. No stereo as of yet (at least our ABC, CBS, NBC, and one of
our two PBS stations all use stereo).

--Curtis

p.s. the other PBS station owned by the same group (quite legal for
noncommercial stations) only broadcasts half the day anyway. We get that
because Toronto is close enough for a largeLargeLARGE viewing audience in the
US and Canada willing to send in pledges.

David S. Serchay

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Feb 20, 1991, 10:16:04 AM2/20/91
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s...@bubba.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:

>
> Regrettably, many stations common step on the end credit roll
> either by truncation or by wiping out the audio. I am really
> surprised that the various guilds haven't complained about this; I'm
> sure that crediting issues are well covered in artists' and actors'
> contracts.
>
> One of the Tiny Toon carrier offenders is WLVI (channel 56,
> Cambridge, Massachusetts). These clowns regularly wipe the last part
> of the credit roll for some stupid repetitive advertisement for their
> own schedule. They have been notified of this, but do nothing.
>
> Another goon is WPIX (channel 11, New York City); these
> misanthropes regularly wipe end credit audio, perform a visual
> compression, and overlay an obnoxious local news chit-chat with audio
> at the bottom of the screen.

add to that WDZL (channel 39, South Florida, who compress the credits to
one side while showing what other programs are in their "afternoon fun
zone"
Because of this I usually miss the little message in the credits (IE:
today's moral : ELmer Fudd is a jerk). does anyone have a list of those
that you can either post or e-mail me?

Dascoser

Thomas M. Shim

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Feb 21, 1991, 3:42:41 PM2/21/91
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Nick Sayer writes: "Concord and Yosemite Sam? Why don't they
tell us who they really were?!"

Um, what did you mean by that?

Also, you can't honestly say Freelance graphics did a good job,
can you? I mean, movemnent was okay, but Hamton looked like a man..

David W. Tamkin

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Feb 20, 1991, 10:47:59 AM2/20/91
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kl...@kira.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) wrote in
<1991Feb19.1...@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, quoting Nick Sayer:

| >Guy who thinks it's 1947 - Charlie Bean [These are getting stupid]
|
| This guy was in the credits - what's he do?

Maybe that's a reference to "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" WFRR was set in 1947.

David Tamkin Box 7002 Des Plaines IL 60018-7002 708 518 6769 312 693 0591
MCI Mail: 426-1818 GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN CIS: 73720,1570 dat...@ddsw1.mcs.com

David W. Tamkin

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Feb 21, 1991, 9:20:55 AM2/21/91
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da...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) wrote in <44...@ut-emx.uucp>:

| KBVO here in Austin is very good about not messing with the Tiny Toons
| credits, although they do plug Head of the Class and ALF on some other
| 'toons. They show it way too early though... 7 in the morning! Ack!

You're fortunate. We rarely see the tag and sometimes not even the gag
credit. WFLD hasn't shown the Elmyra tag *yet*.

If I could see TTA with full credits at an ungodly hour and didn't already
own a VCR, I'd beg, borrow, or buy one.

[Making note of Austin as a good place to live.]

| On a different subject: I loved today's _The Raven_. It was even
| better than the one on the Simpsons Halloween special.

At first I looked for comparison, but when TTA started to change the words
and to introduce modern appliances (and to waffle on whether Lenore was
alive), I realized they were taking a different tack and aiming for a
different audience from "The Simpsons." TTA's was more light-hearted and
easier to enjoy, but whereas Bart-as-Raven would never chase Homer around and
around through the back door, Sweetie would never get off a classic line like
"Eat my shorts."

Both had their independent merits. Still, I'm glad I didn't see them too
close together.

David W. Tamkin

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Feb 20, 1991, 10:45:29 AM2/20/91
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don...@milton.u.washington.edu (Erik Donley Olson) wrote in
<16...@milton.u.washington.edu>:

| I'll be quite happy if TTA's signing on with Fox means they'll be picked up
| by KCPQ-13 which doesn't do such junk (and broadcasts in stereo!).

Then at least Seattle has some hope. The station that mangles TTA in Chicago
*is* the Fox affiliate.

David H. Huang

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Feb 22, 1991, 3:37:52 PM2/22/91
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In article <1991Feb21.1...@ddsw1.MCS.COM> dat...@ddsw1.MCS.COM (David W. Tamkin) writes:

>You're fortunate. We rarely see the tag and sometimes not even the gag
>credit. WFLD hasn't shown the Elmyra tag *yet*.
>
>If I could see TTA with full credits at an ungodly hour and didn't already
>own a VCR, I'd beg, borrow, or buy one.

KBVO puts a voice over in the credits, but they stick it around the
middle, so you always hear and see the tag.

I do have a VCR, and I do tape the shows, but I have an early class,
so I usually watch TTA while eating breakfast. My VCR has a good
freeze-frame too :-)

>| On a different subject: I loved today's _The Raven_. It was even
>| better than the one on the Simpsons Halloween special.
>
>At first I looked for comparison, but when TTA started to change the words
>and to introduce modern appliances (and to waffle on whether Lenore was
>alive), I realized they were taking a different tack and aiming for a
>different audience from "The Simpsons." TTA's was more light-hearted and
>easier to enjoy, but whereas Bart-as-Raven would never chase Homer around and
>around through the back door, Sweetie would never get off a classic line like
>"Eat my shorts."

I'm a light-hearted kind of guy! :-) When I first saw the Simpsons
one, I loved it, but I liked the TTA one even better.

>Both had their independent merits. Still, I'm glad I didn't see them too
>close together.

True, both are really good.

>David Tamkin Box 7002 Des Plaines IL 60018-7002 708 518 6769 312 693 0591
>MCI Mail: 426-1818 GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN CIS: 73720,1570 dat...@ddsw1.mcs.com

Dail

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Feb 19, 1991, 4:20:52 PM2/19/91
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In article <PJT.91Fe...@dharma.cpac.washington.edu> p...@cpac.washington.edu (Larry Setlow) writes:
> In article <16...@milton.u.washington.edu> don...@milton.u.washington.edu (Erik Donley Olson) writes:
>
> OK, I'm annoyed now! They showed a repeat of "Furrball's Travels"
> on KSTW today. Blech.
>
> You mean you weren't already annoyed with the almost-always cut tags
> and most-of-the-time cut joke credits and Rosco's explanation that ALF
> is coming up next (which obscures the credits, usually during the
> voice credits)?

Gonna set me a 'coon trap, I am, an' bag that Rosco. (For those
of you not in the immediate area, Rosco is a raccoon puppet who
shares the screen with the cute but vaguely annoying Ranger Char-
lie, dispensing advice and promos indiscriminately to the little
kiddies. Great. Fine. But confine it to the commercial slots,
okay?)

Me, I hate the crawls they've been using recently: "Hey, kids!
Be the 39th caller and win this spiffy Nintendo cartridge!" (Or
words to that effect.) Right across the opening scenes of each
short! It's simply not morally right to induce the little ones
to leave the television at the very moment when something other
than the typical afternoon pabulum is on.

And then they plaster subsequent shorts with the caption, "We
have a winner--quit calling already!" (Slightly paraphrased.)

I'm gonna take that 'coon, and I'm gonna build me a great big
fire, and I'm gonna [remainder of message censored]

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