Time for Tubby tickling?
RaymondHow
on Teletubbies this morning (Nov 10, 1999).
I saw Teletubbies playing with a "tooter". They were bending over and tickling
each other on their rear ends, the one being tickled giggling excitedly. In
the second case, the tickling appeared to be underneath, on the genital area.
Is it really appropriate to be teaching children that it's okay to BEND OVER
AND BE TICKLED in this way?? This is UNACCEPTABLE!!!
Raymond Howard
PAtina4175
don't think it is "teaching" children unacceptable behavior. Laa-Laa didn't
tell T.W. to bend over so she could tickle him on his butt, he just happened to
be bending over when the tooter got to him.. (And if you believe the hype, why
would he get "excited" about it unless Dipsy did it??) Neither did T.W. tell
Dipsy to bend over, when it was his turn with the tooter. In fact, doesn't the
tooter first knock off Dipsy's hat before he bends over? It's all innocent
fun. And remember, the tubbies don't HAVE genitals.
t.
Goldpeke
the camera and declares "It be Toota" my heart just melts, I have to rewind
that part 4 or 5 times!!!!!!
Karen
Laa-Laa Rules!!!!!!!!!!
RaymondHow
>don't think it is "teaching" children unacceptable behavior. Laa-Laa didn't
>tell T.W. to bend over so she could tickle him on his butt, he just happened
>to
>be bending over when the tooter got to him..
So what does that say? As long as the child doesn't expect to be tickled on
the butt, it's okay to tickle him? Believe me, plenty of perverts would love
that interpretation! Any anyway, do you really think 4 year olds will be
making these distinctions? I'm sorry, this is just irresponsible and
inappropriate programming.
>(And if you believe the hype, why
>would he get "excited" about it unless Dipsy did it??)
I'm not believing any hype, I'm just reacting to what I saw.
>In fact, doesn't the
>tooter first knock off Dipsy's hat before he bends over? It's all innocent
>fun.
Yes, knocking off Dipsy's hat was cute. Tickling T.W. on the neck would have
been cute. But teaching kids that being tickled on the bottom is "innocent
fun" is just ASKING for trouble!
RH
PAtina4175
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>Any anyway, do you really think 4 year olds will be
>making these distinctions?
BINGO! They will think it's a funny show about their favorite tubbies. That's
how it should be looked at. Not looking for hidden sexual or perverted
messages.
t.
RaymondHow
>>making these distinctions?
>
>BINGO! They will think it's a funny show about their favorite tubbies.
>That's
>how it should be looked at. Not looking for hidden sexual or perverted
>messages.
I'm NOT looking for hidden messages! I'm just saying that it will make
children more likely to think being tickled that way is okay. And that is the
WRONG message to be sending to chidlren!
RH
Kokobeen
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Goldpeke <gold...@aol.com> wrote:
: hey, how can you get upset over that ep, it's darling!!! When Laa-Laa
DreamIntro
Comedy Central's The Daily Show, after the Jerry Fallwell controversy. The
audience was in histerics over it. It was also used at the end of the show for
their moment of zen.
The first time I saw that episode I was rolling on the floor. But then it
happened to Dipsy too, so it probably wasn't a homosexual referece to
Tinky-Winky. If it was a hidden joke for adults it was funny, but little ones
would not have picked up on it anyway, and not anything to be upset about.
Steve/Beth George
: The first time I saw that episode I was rolling on the floor. But then it
: happened to Dipsy too, so it probably wasn't a homosexual referece to
: Tinky-Winky. If it was a hidden joke for adults it was funny, but little ones
: would not have picked up on it anyway, and not anything to be upset about.
The first time I saw it was THE DAY after the Falwell story broke. A
friend of mine had heard about it, knew that I and my daughter loved the
show and said "Is there anything to it?" S
I rewound, to that episode (which I had taped the day before but not
watched--I had to leave the house) which I hadn't seen at all, and
happened to hit the point where the tooter was tickling...well.
Probably the most homosexual moment Tubbies ever had, but only to
dirty-minded adults such my friend and I, and only out of context of the
show and in the context of the previous day's news.
I actually believe that maybe Tinky Winky IS supposed to be gay, in a
nature vs. nurture way. Not actively so, since he's just a child, but the
Tubbies are different races, Po speaks a different language sometimes,
they like different things--just one more way that some people are
different, and nothing to get upset about.
--Beth
Dale Blumenthal
Dale Blumenthal
Winky, I would have wacked Laa-Laa and Po.
But you should see the episode where Naughty Noo-Noo gives Po a wash
with the tubby sponge. He was very fresh.
And those whoopie cushions that the teletubbies have on their rears
should go. I consider them vulgar. Almost as bad as "Bride of Chucky."
Ufoer.
Tracy
> So what does that say? As long as the child doesn't expect to be tickled
on
> the butt, it's okay to tickle him? Believe me, plenty of perverts would
love
> that interpretation!
Ok, I have to step in here. Firstly, I was molested as a child, by a
relative and he never once "tickled my butt" or asked to do that either.
That is not how perverts work, ok??
Any anyway, do you really think 4 year olds will be
> making these distinctions? I'm sorry, this is just irresponsible and
> inappropriate programming.
Yes, I believe that 4 year olds CAN make this distinction when they are
playing with OTHER 4 year olds. Why bring perverts into the equation. The
Tubbies are all around the same age as each other, so playing like that is
ABSOLUTELY normal. When you watch 4 year olds playing together (and I mean
without them knowing that you are there) they play completely differently to
when they know you are watching them. Are you that narrow minded that YOU
cannot distinguish between children playing together and supposed perverts
hiding in the bushes at Teletubbyland????
Tracy
Dale Blumenthal
is this episode when Po eats her tubby toast in bed and gets crumbs all
over the place. So Noo-Noo tidies up. Noo-Noo was supposed to tidy up
the bed, but he decides to tidy Po up, too, and Noo-Noo tidied up Po
where he wasn't supposed to. Naughty Noo-Noo! I was shocked. Po suddenly
stands up and she's giggling, but it seemed that she was giggling from
embarrassment. Now I've seen everythihg. What a fresh vacuum cleaner.
Naughty Noo-Noo! I was embarrassed when I saw that episode. If I were a
teletubby, I would have sent that Noo-Noo to the junk yard.
I love Teletubbies, I'm not knocking the show, but I think those
whoopie cushions ought to go, too.
Teletubbily Yours, Ufoer.
RaymondHow
>relative and he never once "tickled my butt" or asked to do that either.
>That is not how perverts work, ok??
Your experience may have been different, but that is EXACTLY how many perverts
work! They start out with something innocent and work from there. ok??
>Yes, I believe that 4 year olds CAN make this distinction when they are
>playing with OTHER 4 year olds. Why bring perverts into the equation.
I'm not worried about other 4 year olds. Kids will play, and nothing changes
that. I mention perverts only because this is one way they operate, and the
show will tend to make a 4 year old more receptive to it. After all, anything
Teletubbies like must be okay, right?
>Are you that narrow minded that YOU
>cannot distinguish between children playing together and supposed perverts
>hiding in the bushes at Teletubbyland????
Where do get off calling me narrow minded??? I never said anything about
perverts hiding in Tubbyland.. I'm concerned about the REAL ones that ARE
hiding in the bushes at the playground. I for one do not want to see kids
receptive to their advances.
RH
Chris
RaymondHow wrote in message
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>>Firstly, I was molested as a child, by a
>>relative and he never once "tickled my butt" or asked to do that either.
>>That is not how perverts work, ok??
>
>Your experience may have been different, but that is EXACTLY how many
perverts
>work! They start out with something innocent and work from there. ok?
This worries me !!!
> >Yes, I believe that 4 year olds CAN make this distinction when they are
>>playing with OTHER 4 year olds. Why bring perverts into the equation.
>
>I'm not worried about other 4 year olds. Kids will play, and nothing
changes
>that. I mention perverts only because this is one way they operate,
You seem to be well informed..............
> and the
>show will tend to make a 4 year old more receptive to it. After all,
anything
>Teletubbies like must be okay, right?
>
>>Are you that narrow minded that YOU
>>cannot distinguish between children playing together and supposed perverts
>>hiding in the bushes at Teletubbyland????
>
>Where do get off calling me narrow minded??? I never said anything about
>perverts hiding in Tubbyland.. I'm concerned about the REAL ones that ARE
>hiding in the bushes at the playground. I for one do not want to see kids
>receptive to their advances.
>
>RH
I hope your not one!!!!!!!
Chris
Dale Blumenthal
shocking on Tots TV. Tilly, Tom, and Tiny all had to change into bathing
suits to go swimming, so they all went inside this tent together to
change. I thought to myself: You mean to say Tilly is going to strip
naked in front of those two boys? I couldn't believe it. I was brought
up to believe that one doesn't stip in front of the opposite sex even if
one is a toddler. It's just not how things are done where I come from.
Teletubbily Yours, Ufoer
Eric Tadsen
Chris
I was just reading the post and that was how it looked to me.
Eric Tadsen wrote in message <382E845D...@tds.net>...
Tracy
television programs to give themselves ideas of how to attack a victim. Did
you also realise that 90% of ALL child molestation cases come from people
known to the victim, and NOT creeps hiding in bushes.
I think that you are so way off base here and I am absolutely sick to death
of people who take something as INNOCENT as the Teletubbies and project
their own perversions onto them. In Australia at the moment, we are battling
a war against idiotic puritans who are trying to demoralise a perfectly
innocent childrens character and get him remover from our television sets. I
am talking about Humphrey B Bear who has been on the TV longer than any
other program. And why are they trying to remove Humphrey Bear from our
TV's???? Becuase he wears a shirt and tie, but no pants. Now I find it
amazing that so called ADULTS can be offended by a BEAR not wearing pants
(and he hasn't worn them for over 40 years.) I mean, a bear in the wild
doesn't wear pants, nor do they wear them in zoos or circuses, but maybe,
these ADULTS require a higher dress standard?
These so called puritans also got Noddy banned. Why? Because he "slept" with
Big Ears at a sleepover. Well HELLO and welcome to real life. That is what
children do. And I daren't mention any of the Sesame street characters,
because after all, almost all of the, including ELMO, are NAKED. And please
don't bring in that the Sesame Street characters don't have bottom halves,
because a) until that is pointed out to them by adults, children don't
realise this and b) The Teletubbies DO NOT have any genitals, yet they can
have homosexual and perverted tendencies thrust upon them.
All I was suggesting to you Raymond, was maybe you should relax, sit back
and watch another episode of the Teletubbies, but do yourself and everyone
else a favour..........pretend, just for 23 minutes, that you are 2 years
old again. Then I think you will really understand where the Teletubbies are
coming from.
Tracy
Chris
DreamIntro
Well done Tracy<<
Ditto
RaymondHow
>This worries me !!!
Good, it worries me too!
>I hope your not one!!!!!!!
Hope you're not one either!!!!
RaymondHow
>television programs to give themselves ideas of how to attack a victim.
You sure seem rather well informed. Heh, where did I hear that before? But
that WASN'T my point! I'm worried about the CHILDREN getting the idea that
this is okay behavior. Okay??
>Did
>you also realise that 90% of ALL child molestation cases come from people
>known to the victim, and NOT creeps hiding in bushes.
>
Yes I realize that Tracy, but that's irrelevent to my point. Making butt
tickling look okay to kids would help make molesting look okay too, whether the
child knows the pervert or not.
>I think that you are so way off base here and I am absolutely sick to death
>of people who take something as INNOCENT as the Teletubbies and project
>their own perversions onto them.
Well, you certainly haven't shown that I'm off base. But you have just
succeeded at insulting me again.
>All I was suggesting to you Raymond, was maybe you should relax, sit back
>and watch another episode of the Teletubbies, but do yourself and everyone
>else a favour..........pretend, just for 23 minutes, that you are 2 years
>old again. Then I think you will really understand where the Teletubbies are
>coming from.
I HAVE watched several episodes, Tracy. And I have mostly been very charmed by
the Teletubbies. No way would I want to see them banned. I am just hoping the
producers will be a little more responsible, and THINK about what they let
tubbies do, because children are SO impressionable.
RH
Dale Blumenthal
ancestry exist. But before I got on that subject, I noticed that the
tooter ep was offensive to some people because it was teaching kids that
certain types of behavior is acceptable when it isn't. I agree. That ep
should have not been aired. Maybe that sort of behavior is acceptable in
Teletubbyland, but not here.
There is another demographic that might be offended by Teletubbies:
people of extraterrestrial ancestry.The show makes fun of
extraterrestrial speech. Peer language, baby talk, whatever one wants to
call it, it's making fun of foreigners from another planet who have
trouble learning human languages. And the antennas and pointed ears are
racial stereotypes, with all due respect to RagDoll. Also, the show
portrays extraterresrials as stupid. I like Teletubbies, I adore
teletubbies, but the extraterestrial community may be offended by the
show. And extraterrestrials don't snore. That's another thing RagDoll
has all wrong.
Also, I don't think boy teletubbies should sleep in the same room
with girl teletubbies. It's not proper. They should sleep in separate
bedrooms. Especially Laa-Laa and Dipsy.
And the girl teletubbies shouldn't snore so loud. It's not
ladylike.
Teletubbily Yours, Ufoer
Dale Blumenthal
Micki Bailey
> Please pardon my craziness. {snip}
> Also, I don't think boy teletubbies should sleep in the same room
> with girl teletubbies. It's not proper. They should sleep in separate
> bedrooms. Especially Laa-Laa and Dipsy.
You've got a point, here, Dale, especially since Laa-Laa and Dipsy give off those obvious vibes that
they adore each other so much. However, when Chris comes across the puddle to visit me next week,
we'll be acting out a real-life Laa-Laa/Dipsy scenario (or several) of our own, and we WILL be
sharing the same bedroom. And it will be proper. (wink)
Micki
The Laa-Laa of the Southern U.S. who patiently awaits the explosive meeting with her Dipsy of South
Wales
RaymondHow
>tooter ep was offensive to some people because it was teaching kids that
>certain types of behavior is acceptable when it isn't. I agree. That ep
>should have not been aired. Maybe that sort of behavior is acceptable in
>Teletubbyland, but not here.
Thank you Dale!
RH
chrismorgan
That's no big deal as Tom and Tiny like a bit of French!!!
The real Chris
Dale Blumenthal <uf...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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chrismorgan
Please read the posts properly before replying to them. I refer to an
ealier post from Tracy. She makes very valid points which you fail to see.
Kids do not view such programmes the same way as "us" adults, nor are they
likely to influence the children's minds on such matters.
The real Chris
RaymondHow <raymo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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chrismorgan
As much as I admire your posts, and even share your views on alien
communities that are among us, I strongly object to the Laa-laa/Dipsy
referrence below. It is a known fact that the teletubbies ages are that
equal to what we know as the whole human race! They do not age!! For all
we know, Dipsy and Laa-laa are mature adult Teletubbies. They are perfectly
entitled to sleep in the same room.....even the same bed had they been big
enough!! Aliens DO snore....ask my dad!!!
The real Chris
Dale Blumenthal <uf...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> Also, I don't think boy teletubbies should sleep in the same room
> with girl teletubbies. It's not proper. They should sleep in separate
> bedrooms. Especially Laa-Laa and Dipsy.
RaymondHow
>Raymond,
>
>Please read the posts properly before replying to them. I refer to an
>ealier post from Tracy. She makes very valid points which you fail to see.
Real Chris,
I can read very well, Chris. Tracy's points were mostly about child molesters,
but my original points were about children. Perhaps I make very valid points
that you fail to see.
>Kids do not view such programmes the same way as "us" adults,
I agree, adults are less likely to be as influenced by such things.
>nor are they
>likely to influence the children's minds on such matters.
That's utter nonsense. Children are easy to influence in ALL matters. They
are in the process of forming their ideas about what is normal behavior. Let's
not give them ideas that are clearly inappropriate and that can get them in big
trouble.
RH
Dale Blumenthal
chrismorgan
your opinions, I have mine, period.
The real Chris
RaymondHow <raymo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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RaymondHow
>shocking on Tots TV. Tilly, Tom, and Tiny all had to change into bathing
>suits to go swimming, so they all went inside this tent together to
>change. I thought to myself: You mean to say Tilly is going to strip
>naked in front of those two boys? I couldn't believe it. I was brought
>up to believe that one doesn't stip in front of the opposite sex even if
>one is a toddler. It's just not how things are done where I come from.
Nor where I come from either Dale... thanks for posting that. Producers of
these programs need to be more sensitive to issues like this... they need to
realize some kinds of behavior shouldn't be depicted on their shows.
RH