Behind the scenes at Survivor
Dan Stanley
I mean, do they have a doctor on call?
Do they brief the cast on what not to eat to avoid poisonings?
Are there porta potties off-camera?
Are they told not to cuss?
Do they regularly talk to camermen and crew - parts which subsequently get
cut?
Are they paid to keep quiet until after the show airs?
Nelson Binch
news:1193a41...@corp.supernews.com...
Do they routinely hose everyone down with powerful sunscreen? (I'd be red as
a beet in a few hours!)
Are they *ever* alone?
Ed Stasiak
>
> Is there anywhere I can read about the making of the show?
Maybe in MB's Survivor book that he put out a while ago?
They ought to run a 'warm up' episode a week prior to the
start of every new season, showing behind the scenes stuff
along with bloops and blunders from the previous season.
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
They do have doctor(s) on call, along with other medical personnel, I
believe. (Most of your questions were covered in early season
discussions.)
They give the "survivors" plenty of information on the area where they
are going - otherwise, they couldn't do the quizzes about the locale
that they are fond of.
No porta-potties for the survivors - they dig latrines, or otherwise
make do. Of course, the crew has all the amenities they need.
Words have been bleeped out - so I'd say, they are probably given
reminders that they are being recorded, if they need such reminders.
I doubt they are allowed to talk to the crew at all - if so, I'm sure
the crew is instructed not to respond.
Keeping quiet about results is part of the agreement they sign
beforehand. Huge penalties if they talk.
N.
the.w...@gmail.com
down of what to/not to eat, how to read a map, what to do in a
connfessional, etc.?
kmp...@pagesz.net
Dan Stanley wrote:
> Is there anywhere I can read about the making of the show?
At one point over on SurvivorSucks, a woman who had been a production
assistant on S7 leaked out a few things about the WAY behind-the-scenes
goings-on. She herself admit that she never even SAW the actual cast,
never mind got near them, but she did have some insight in what it was
like deep within the production crew (she was a very low-ranking temp
with no clearance for anything "secretive", which is why she didn't
feel bad about posting what she did).
Mostly what she said that was of interest was about the "Dream Team", a
group of lookalikes who were used for a lot of the filming. Each
Survivor has a lookalike and on challenges (for example), they often
reshot scenes using the Dream Team that were edited in with the "real"
footage. The contest had already been decided, this was just to get
more "Exciting" footage, closeups of hands, etc. And certainly, all of
those shots they show before a challenge of people performing them are
done by production staff (which most of us knew).
I believe she did write about when Osten quit; she of course didn't
know his name (they use fake names, much like the CIA, when referring
to the contestants) but heard murmurs about something that led her to
believe someone quit. (She did not post about any of this until AFTER
the season ran, so she wasn't spoiling). I wish I could remember more.
Oddly, at some point, all of her posts, nonspoiling as they were,
vanished from SurvivorSucks. So I guess it wasn't as "innocent"{ of her
to post about is she thought...
Francois
Steven L.
> Is there anywhere I can read about the making of the show?
Helen Glover (S5) used to write a column on Survivor in the Providence
Journal. She used to include little tidbits on "What You Don't Know."
Eventually, CBS threatened her with legal action, claiming that she
violated their nondisclosure agreement. But the columns she had already
written are still out there. Google for
"Helen Glover" "What You Don't Know"
From what I saw, everything she wrote was public knowledge. But not
well publicized knowledge, so it may include stuff you personally didn't
know.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Steven L.
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote:
> Dan Stanley wrote:
>
>>Is there anywhere I can read about the making of the show?
>>
>>I mean, do they have a doctor on call?
>>Do they brief the cast on what not to eat to avoid poisonings?
>>Are there porta potties off-camera?
>>Are they told not to cuss?
>> Do they regularly talk to camermen and crew - parts which
>
> subsequently get
>
>>cut?
>>Are they paid to keep quiet until after the show airs?
>
>
> They do have doctor(s) on call, along with other medical personnel, I
> believe. (Most of your questions were covered in early season
> discussions.)
> They give the "survivors" plenty of information on the area where they
> are going - otherwise, they couldn't do the quizzes about the locale
> that they are fond of.
> No porta-potties for the survivors - they dig latrines, or otherwise
> make do.
The question I always wondered about is how the Survivors manage to do
those long endurance IC's without needing to take bathroom breaks. In
this latest one, Katie was on the perch for over 5 hours, and Tom and
Ian were on their perches for over 11 hours! How the heck did they go
so long without peeing?
kmp...@pagesz.net
Steven L. wrote:
> The question I always wondered about is how the Survivors manage to
do
> those long endurance IC's without needing to take bathroom breaks.
In
> this latest one, Katie was on the perch for over 5 hours, and Tom and
> Ian were on their perches for over 11 hours! How the heck did they
go
> so long without peeing?
Of course they DON'T go that long without peeing. I suspect they either
go in place or, if their toilet training was so strong that they are
incapable of peeing in their pants (some people's is; it's been tested
in experiments), I guess they got off the pole. But, I suspect that if
we'd seen the footage at certain times, we'd have seen big wet spots on
a lot of those long endurance challenges.
Also, remember that they aren't drinking a huge amount of fluid out
there, so probably don't go to the bathroom nearly as much as you or
I--though in 12 hours, I'm sure they did at least once.
Francois
Douglas Berry
<dsta...@shentel.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.tv.survivor beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Is there anywhere I can read about the making of the show?
MB wrote a book. All this comes from what I learned when I applied
for Season 4 and made the second round of call ups.
>I mean, do they have a doctor on call?
There is a full medical crew, and Survivors are given periodic exams
to insure that they are healthy.
>Do they brief the cast on what not to eat to avoid poisonings?
Yes. Prior to leaving the US, cast memebers are given briefing
packets on the setting, along with lectures on the "ground rules" for
the area.
>Are there porta potties off-camera?
Nope!
>Are they told not to cuss?
Not really. The whole point is to make it real. If you swear like a
sailor, you won't get much screen time though.
> Do they regularly talk to camermen and crew - parts which subsequently get
>cut?
No. Interacting with production crew is strictly forbidden, with the
exception of the assitant directors who tell the cast members to check
their tree mail, let them know when they have to do one-on-ones, etc.
According to what I learned, if a camera crew is actually interfering
with something you are doing (getting in the way when you are trying
to fish, for example) you are supposed to tell the AD, who will then
move the crew.
>Are they paid to keep quiet until after the show airs?
Not really paid. But the contract they sign includes a penalty
clause. Revealing *anything* about the show (location, tribal
composition, boot order, nature of challenges.. anything!) before it
airs in the United States will cost you four million dollars.
They told us that they expected that we would at least confide in
spouses, but to otherwise keep our mouths shut. The standard
boilerplate when asked is to say "It was a great experience/adventure,
and I'm glad I had the chance to go. Enjoy the show!"
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
Steven L.
> No. Interacting with production crew is strictly forbidden, with the
> exception of the assitant directors who tell the cast members to check
> their tree mail, let them know when they have to do one-on-ones, etc.
In "VH-1 Goes Inside: Survivor," Jerri Manthey admitted that she was so
hungry in S2 that she actually tried to bribe several of the production
crew for food.
I have no way of knowing if she's telling the truth about this, of
course. But no matter how much you "strictly forbid" Survivors, when
they're starving, they will try just about anything (as we've seen).
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
> The question I always wondered about is how the Survivors manage to
do
> those long endurance IC's without needing to take bathroom breaks.
In
> this latest one, Katie was on the perch for over 5 hours, and Tom and
> Ian were on their perches for over 11 hours! How the heck did they
go
> so long without peeing?
What, you can't go 5 hours without? Sheesh. They can prepare
beforehand, of course...by not drinking or eating.
N.
Steven L.
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote:
Then they would be much more prone to dehydration in the warm sun. In
S8 (in Panama), Jeff Probst said the temperature had hit 106 degrees
Fahrenheit. No one should be out in that type of heat without becoming
thoroughly hydrated first.
Rick
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Given that it rained at one point, you could just go in your clothes while
it was raining and no one would know.
As far as I can recall, the only time this issue was discussed on the air in
all the years and versions of the show I've watched was on the second season
of the British Survivor. On this version, several participants stood for
more than 12 hours or more on this challenge, and the eventual winner (a
man) actually stood for 24 hours. One of the women stood for more than 17
hours (supposedly, that was the record for a female on any version of the
show), and at one point she just began urinating in her clothes while she
was standing. It was dark by that point and you really couldn't see much,
but the microphones picked it up and the girl did joke about what was
happening, and the others commented as well. On the US version, they've
never talked about it that I can recall.
alvinst...@hotmail.com
is life threatening, and it took 40 minutes for the medics to arrive on
the scene to help Mike when he fell in the fire. Also, in All Stars,
Big Tom broke some ribs in one of the challenges, and he had to suck it
up while Boston Rob had an exposed nerve on a tooth. It's not a show
for people with low pain tolerance.
Rick
CBS pressure leads RI paper to drop column by 'Survivor:Thailand's Helen
Glover
By Wade Paulsen, 03/30/2004
Apparently Survivor itself wouldn't survive if future contestants learned
information that is already widely known on the Internet. At least, that
seems to be CBS's view, after pressure from CBS lawyers led to the
termination of a newspaper column being written by a former Survivor
castaway.
Helen Glover, a member of the Survivor: Thailand final four, became a
columnist for the Providence (RI) Journal (locally known as the "ProJo") to
cover the events of the current Survivor: All-Stars, based on the episodes
and previews and on her perspective as a former contestant. As part of her
weekly column, Helen, who is a resident of Middletown, RI, discussed some of
"what you don't know" -- the behind-the-scenes details of Survivor
production. That was too much for CBS.
After Helen's column of March 11, a CBS attorney named Ray White sent Helen
an e-mail the next day alleging that her column had violated the
confidentiality agreement that Helen signed prior to Survivor: Thailand --
specifically, by providing details on "the methods of production" of
Survivor, which the agreement does not permit her to do for three years
after her appearance. White wrote, "The information you describe in your
article regarding how the Producers handle participants once they are voted
off clearly falls under [that] category."
Although Helen was on vacation and did not read the e-mail before she wrote
her next column, which ran on March 16, she talked to CBS officials
immediately thereafter. As a result of her conversation, she submitted her
March 23 column to CBS lawyers for pre-approval. However, the Providence
Journal responded by cancelling her column because of this.
The executive editor of the ProJo, Joel Rawson, said, "We do not submit our
articles for approval prior to publication to institutions outside the
newspaper. What CBS wants is the right to edit the work of a person writing
for The Journal. We find that arrangement unacceptable." Indeed, the ProJo
found support for its position from a CBS News spokesperson, who said that
it was absolutely against CBS standards to permit pre-approval of news
stories by the subjects of those stories.
Apparently CBS's legal department would prefer for viewers and newspaper
readers to forget about Survivor rather than read a "dangerous" column. We
wonder what CBS's publicity department would say about that....
For his part, White, a low-level CBS attorney, claimed that he had merely
suggested pre-approval for Helen's column and that it was "not a
requirement." Helen, however, an ex-Navy swim instructor who certainly did
not appear to have any problems understanding English while on Survivor,
disagreed. In response to White, she told the ProJo: "[Pre-approval] was not
a suggestion."
As devoted Survivor spoilers, we decided to look up all of the available
Helen Glover columns to see what nuggets of valuable information we could
ferret out of them, since CBS was so worried. The ProJo no longer has
Helen's March 11 column on line, but here's what it had to say:
[NOTE: People who want to avoid spoilers can rest easy, as there is no
spoiler information here.]
What You Don't Know:
When you are voted off, you go to a base camp, of sorts, behind the scenes
and far away from the game. There is no TV, or telephones. No Internet.
There is a VCR and a DVD player, but not much else. On a regular season of
Survivor, with 16 contestants, the first seven are taken away for a very
nice, all expenses paid vacation. Not a bad deal, but most would rather
still be "in the game." The next seven voted off become the jury, leaving
two finalists. As each person is voted off, they receive a meal, shower,
room and a visit from the staff psychiatrist. They come to check on you,
making sure you are all right. Some people leave the game angry, or
depressed. Others leave ill, while still others leave with a sense of
relief. The psychiatrist continues to call on you even after you return
home, as many people have trouble adjusting to the normal routine of life
again. I remember the doctor calling me several times just to "check up" and
see how I was. After the third call, I told them to check on someone else:
I'm just fine!
We hate to inform CBS's overzealous legal department about this, but EVERY
PART of Helen's post is public knowledge. Mark Burnett himself has talked
about the role of the psychologist, since the VERY FIRST contestant voted
off the original Survivor show (Sweden's Expedition: Robinson) committed
suicide upon returning home. The trips were originated during Survivor: The
Australian Outback and were first revealed in Debb Eaton's post-boot chat,
the very first of that season (which led to the famous "Debb's friends"
spoiler that correctly identified all the pre-jury boots). Even the "no
communications" policy has been known since then, when final four member
Elisabeth Filarski was shown by CBS, upon her return to the States, asking
her then-boyfriend (now husband), Washington Redskins quarterback Tim
Hasselbeck, the score of the BC-Miami football game. Elisabeth subsequently
explained the lack of contact with the outside world.
Although that Helen column was a bust for spoiler info, we didn't give up.
Here's the March 17 one, Helen's last:
What You Don't Know:
Have you ever noticed how insightful host Jeff Probst's questions are at
Tribal Council? He works very hard at his interrogations, studying
videotapes of the previous days in camp, and consulting with the producers
on a daily basis. He takes the game and his part in it very seriously. This
past week was a great example of his skill as the Grand Inquisitor. Probst
pointed out Shii Ann Huang's limited physical strength, while also
emphasizing Donaldson's value as a strong member of the tribe. Does Probst
affect the outcome of the votes? In my case, I know my vote was never
affected by Probst's questions.
Oops, once again, no spoiler value; it's all common knowledge. Well, what
about her March 4 column?
What You Don't Know
Watching one of the challenge events at home, you might wonder, "How can
they possibly remember those directions?" Let me give you a
behind-the-scenes look. Once you arrive at the challenge site, Jeff Probst
explains the rules of the game. At times, he will walk you through the
course and offer a question-and-answer period. It is of the utmost
importance for you to pay close attention. Once the game begins, if you make
a mistake, you're out of luck. There are no second chances or "do-overs."
You are never allowed to practice a challenge, and many times the course
remains a mystery, or partially out of sight.
STILL no spoiler value. In fact, after reviewing all of Helen's columns for
Survivor: All-Stars, we were unable to identify even one piece of
information that wasn't widely known among online Survivor spoilers. Thus,
if Survivor would be damaged by Helen's column, it has already been damaged.
We wonder whether CBS has been contemplating laying off some of its law
department, leading the lawyers to attempt to justify their existence by
making more work for themselves. Why? Because we can find no other
explanation for CBS's actions toward Helen. We might have expected legal
antics focused on "locking the barn door after the horse is gone" from ABC,
since it is part of the crumbling Disney empire --- but not from CBS, a unit
of Viacom, which is run by illustrious Harvard Law School graduate Summer
Redstone.
Steven L.
We heard that on The Amazing Race #7, the producers allowed Boston Rob
to get a root canal during the race. I guess The Amazing Race is a show
for people with low pain tolerance.
Sir Vivor
> for people with low pain tolerance.
>
Rick
"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> alvinst...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > According to the commentaries, the doctor doesn't come out unless it
> > is life threatening, and it took 40 minutes for the medics to arrive on
> > the scene to help Mike when he fell in the fire. Also, in All Stars,
> > Big Tom broke some ribs in one of the challenges, and he had to suck it
> > up while Boston Rob had an exposed nerve on a tooth. It's not a show
> > for people with low pain tolerance.
>
> We heard that on The Amazing Race #7, the producers allowed Boston Rob
> to get a root canal during the race. I guess The Amazing Race is a show
> for people with low pain tolerance.
>
>
Huh? What?
Steven L.
Yep.
Sir Vivor
>
> Yep.
>
Stacy Skyring
and they show it in movies and televison so why not on survivor amazing
race two you never see anyone do that. Are they not aloud to or
something?
iamk...@hotmail.com
"not aloud to?" Good God! No, Stacy, they are like silently
forbidden, ya know?
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Duh. I would guess it's because the contestants are not allowed to
bring cigarettes! D'ya think that could possibly be it?? They would
certainly be a luxury item.
N.
Steven L.
Sir Vivor wrote:
Wow, you must be a fearful patient.
All I ever get is the usual local anesthetic.
In fact, when I was a young child, I had an old-fashioned dentist who
didn't even give Novocaine for simple fillings. I just grabbed the arms
of the chair and held on for dear life as he drilled. My mom used to
take me to the dentist and she would threaten to break my arm if I tried
to get out of the dentist's chair until he was finished.
Frank Dwyer
> alvinst...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> According to the commentaries, the doctor doesn't come out unless it
>> is life threatening, and it took 40 minutes for the medics to arrive on
>> the scene to help Mike when he fell in the fire. Also, in All Stars,
>> Big Tom broke some ribs in one of the challenges, and he had to suck it
>> up while Boston Rob had an exposed nerve on a tooth. It's not a show
>> for people with low pain tolerance.
>
>
> We heard that on The Amazing Race #7, the producers allowed Boston Rob
> to get a root canal during the race. I guess The Amazing Race is a show
> for people with low pain tolerance.
So in All-Stars he had an exposed nerve and in the Amazing Race he had a
root canal?
Perhaps he should consider using a toothbrush every once in a while.
Obveeus
Steven L. wrote:
>Wow, you must be a fearful patient.
>
>All I ever get is the usual local anesthetic.
You speak of 'the usual' when talking about root canals? That kind of talk
should be reserved for cleanings, not dental catastrophies.
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Low pain tolerance and a root canal? Granted, sometimes a person needs
a root canal without being aware of it, but in most cases (especially
an exposed nerve ending) the pain is excrutiating. I know, I've been
there 3 or 4 times, the first being when I broke a front tooth when I
was 16, and we had to wake up the dentist (it was middle of the night)
because I couldn't wait until morning.
N.
Rick
"Stacy Skyring" <StacyS...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20372-429...@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net...
They do show people smoking on the Apprentice.
On Survivor, they are not allowed to bring anything from home that could be
used as tools, so matches, lighters, etc. would be forbidden. I suspect
that cigarettes would also be forbidden, since it could affect their abilty
to go without food, etc.
Steven L.
I heard that one of Willard's goals for going on Survivor was to quit
smoking cold turkey. That may account for why he was so hard to get
along with in Palau. Nicotine withdrawal combined with little food can
be tough on your emotions.
First Fallen
>
> I mean, do they have a doctor on call?
Yes, there is a doctor at the production camp, who can be airlifted in, in
an emergency.
> Do they brief the cast on what not to eat to avoid poisonings?
Yes, they give them a rundown on what they should do, and what they should
avoid with regards to food and water.
> Are there porta potties off-camera?
Not for the castaways. Each tribe has to make their own washroom
facilities. Usually a hole in the ground, with an over turned crate, with a
hole cut in it.
> Are they told not to cuss?
They're probably reminded that the show is a primtetime network show, and
they should try and avoid using inappropriate language, but I've heard them
bleep out swears on the show.
> Do they regularly talk to camermen and crew - parts which subsequently
get
> cut?
The cast are told not to speak to the crew (except during confessionals),
and the crew are under orders not to respond in anyway to the cast if they
do.
> Are they paid to keep quiet until after the show airs?
Paid, no...but they have to sign a confidentially agreement. If they break
they agreement, CBS can sue them for millions.
First Fallen
as
> a beet in a few hours!)
They are provided with sunscreen as a part of their kit. Along with things
like condoms, feminine hygiene products, saline solution for those who wear
contct lenses, razors for the women, to shave their legs, etc.
> Are they *ever* alone?
I believe that there are crew members present at all times.
Joe Mamma
> things
> like condoms, feminine hygiene products, saline solution for those who
> wear
> contct lenses, razors for the women, to shave their legs, etc.
>
Joe Mamma
> root canal?
> Perhaps he should consider using a toothbrush every once in a while.
>
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
There are different reasons for needing root canals, not brushing being
a relatively scarce one. Check the facts before making judgments.
N.
Kathy
>>Do they routinely hose everyone down with powerful sunscreen? (I'd be red
>
> as
>
>>a beet in a few hours!)
>
>
> They are provided with sunscreen as a part of their kit. Along with things
> like condoms, feminine hygiene products, saline solution for those who wear
> contct lenses, razors for the women, to shave their legs, etc.
Only the women get razors? Why is that, I wonder?
Kathy
Steven L.
Kathy wrote:
> First Fallen wrote:
>
>>> Do they routinely hose everyone down with powerful sunscreen? (I'd be
>>> red
>>
>>
>> as
>>
>>> a beet in a few hours!)
>>
>>
>>
>> They are provided with sunscreen as a part of their kit. Along with
>> things
>> like condoms, feminine hygiene products, saline solution for those who
>> wear
>> contct lenses, razors for the women, to shave their legs, etc.
>
>
> Only the women get razors? Why is that, I wonder?
Because by American standards, it's OK for "male eye candy" to have
moustaches and beards, but it's not OK for "female eye candy" to have
hairy legs and hairy armpits. But if everybody were well groomed, then
the show wouldn't look like realistic survival. So I guess they adopted
this compromise.
Obveeus
Steven L. wrote:
>Because by American standards, it's OK for "male eye candy"
>to have moustaches and beards, but it's not OK for "female eye
>candy" to have hairy legs and hairy armpits. But if everybody
>were well groomed, then the show wouldn't look like realistic
>survival. So I guess they adopted this compromise.
Out of curiousity, what is the 'factual' basis for the claim that women are
given shaving equipment, but the men aren't?
Roarmeister
Absolutely NONE.
I have the kit list for S2 and I can't imagine them giving them anymore
than that considering the seasons have generally been getting sparser of
items. Bear in mind that the clothing list has been thrown out the window
since they haven't had extra clothing for several seasons now. Even their
luxury items are gone.
The ONE and ONLY time razors were available during ANY SEASON was when Kel
donated his luxury item (razor and blades) to the rest of his tribe for
them to make use of.
The original poster is smoking something.... or just BS'ing. Or most
likely hypothesizing because his TV doesn't have a good enough resolution
to see the hair growing on the contestants (Survivor is VIDEO-TAPED with
Beta-cams, no HDTV; Source-Jerri Manthey)
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In the Spring 2001 issue of People (all about Survivor issue) the last page
shows a list of what they could bring:
PERSONAL GEAR:
2 pair shoes - sneakers & hiking boots
3 pair socks
3 pair underwear
1 bathing suit
1 pair short pants
1 pair long pants
1 rain jacket
1 fleece/sweatshirt
2 hats (1 sun, 1 winter)
1 pair gloves
1 bra top for women
1 T-shirt or tank top
1 long sleeved shirt
1 pair sunglasses....
1 luxury item that is not matches, alcohol or tobacco
(i.e. not survival related)
They were given for the game:
COOKING UTENTSILS (per tribe):
1 enamel cooking pot
1 quick billy (tin kettle)
1 cast-iron skillet
FOOD (per tribe):
long grain rice (168 cups? = 1/2 cup per person per day)
salt
14 canned goods including:
red kidney beans
peas and carrots
mixed vegetables
green beans
3 bean-mix
corn
sliced mango
green asparagus
salmon
peach slices
Irish stew
pear halves
baked beans
tuna
CAMPING GEAR (per tribe):
1 hatchet (very dull)
1 small folding shovel
1 cane knife (very dull)
2 canvas shelters
1 compass
4 wool blankets
2 lanterns (candle)
1 fish trap
? fish hooks
1 empty fuel container (plastic jerry can)
1 empty map holder & map
8 duffel packs (to hold personal gear)
FIRST-AID KIT: (replenished as required):
3 compound pressure bandages
1 tube antiseptic cream (75g)
4 sewing needles
2 condoms
58 tampons (29 regular, 29 super)
1 insect bite spray (100 ml)
2 bottles sunscreen (250 ml)
2 bottles water purification tablets (50 tablets per bottle)
1 ammo box (empty, to hold first aid items)
....the tampons answers a question that has surfaced and re-surfaced with
S1 & S2. Just 2 condoms (and Maralyn counted them every day just to check
on WHO might be using them! They weren't.)
S3 also had a hand held monoscope from which they used the lenses to make
fire. And presumably since the tribes haven't had clean water except if
they boiled it, the water purification tablets have been dropped.
Coghlan's (based in Winnipeg) Iodine tablets, Coghlan's also makes the
magnesium/flint bar they've been given in several seasons. (Note: there
are several other companies that make these products as well but Coghlan's
has the lion's share of the market.)
Hunter Rose
<sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> In "VH-1 Goes Inside: Survivor," Jerri Manthey admitted that she was
> so hungry in S2 that she actually tried to bribe several of the
> production crew for food.
And what could she have tried to bribe them with, I wonder...?
HR
Roarmeister
wrote:
>Is there anywhere I can read about the making of the show?
Generally, we call that the Internet. :-) But videos, TV, books, and
magazines have all provided the viewership with a multitude of information.
>I mean, do they have a doctor on call?
Yes. The same doctor that MB has used for all his Survivor seasons and
Eco-challenges. Reputedly to be so good looking that all the female
contestants have come back salivating over him.
http://www.usaweekend.com/01_issues/011104/011104survivor.html
>Do they brief the cast on what not to eat to avoid poisonings?
In the earlier seasons they were given a 3-day instructional briefing on
safety in the local surroundings.
>Are there porta potties off-camera?
Ask Jenna Lewis - she dug the first one about 4' deep in loose sand in S1.
Ask Roger - he had a "hole in his leaf" and resorted to cleaning himself in
the river during S2.
The crew, on the other hand, have stations just out of range of the camp
where they can chow down, use the porta-potties, maintain camera equipment,
do paperwork, et al. (out-of-bounds to contestants)
>Are they told not to cuss?
Logically it would make sense - in other words if you want air-time don't
cuss or sing because they would cut that out. Since most of the
contestants are media-whores they've been generally compliant. Although
there has been the odd word beeped the vulgarity has been generally
confined to "damn", "shit", "OMG", "like" and "as if". While originally a
simple word in common usage - "alliance" became an evil word during S1 :-)
>Do they regularly talk to camermen and crew - parts which subsequently get
>cut?
Crew are not allowed to talk to contestants - doing so is grounds for
dismissal (Source - MB and a couple of ex-camera members). Although there
were rumours of information being passed during S1 and during S8 (Jenna M.
about her mother). Jenna Lewis apparently had a tryst with a crew member
after being booted off (but then again she has been rumoured to have been
associated with Jeff Probst, Gervase, Ethan and ____ fill in name here).
There is so much that is NOT shown. According to the call-sheets for S2,
each tribe had a minimum of 3 camera crews + helicopter crews. Do the
math: 3 crews X 24 hours X average of 3 days per episode = 216 hrs. You
get to see less than 42 min. of that or roughly 3%.
>Are they paid to keep quiet until after the show airs?
They sign a multi-million dollar agreement to keep their mouths shut for
the duration of the show and for 3 years following the final show. To-date
few of the former contestants have spilled much of anything useful because
Mark Burnett inspires his crew/contestants to keep mum.
'toodles
Roarmeister
<sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>
>Sir Vivor wrote:
>> I guess The Amazing Race is a show
>>
>>>for people with low pain tolerance.
>>>
>>
>> You ever had a root canal?
>
>Yep.
I've had 2 root canals in one day plus a filling.
Keeping my mouth open continuously for 3 hours left me mighty sore - the
root canal itself was mild compared to that! On the other hand, I did a
pretty good Marlon Brando routine upon getting back to the office with all
that cotton stuffed in my cheeks.
Still I'd sooner go through that again than watch Romber's wedding (coming
on in 2 minutes.)
Steven L.
Her earrings, perhaps. Or a ring, if she was wearing one.
She could have traded whatever jewelry she was wearing for food.
Roarmeister
wrote:
a Hershey chocolate rub-down???
Steven L.
Roarmeister wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:51:03 -0700, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Steven L. wrote:
>>
>>>Because by American standards, it's OK for "male eye candy"
>>>to have moustaches and beards, but it's not OK for "female eye
>>>candy" to have hairy legs and hairy armpits. But if everybody
>>>were well groomed, then the show wouldn't look like realistic
>>>survival. So I guess they adopted this compromise.
>>
>>Out of curiousity, what is the 'factual' basis for the claim that women are
>>given shaving equipment, but the men aren't?
>
>
> Absolutely NONE.
>
> I have the kit list for S2 and I can't imagine them giving them anymore
> than that considering the seasons have generally been getting sparser of
> items. Bear in mind that the clothing list has been thrown out the window
> since they haven't had extra clothing for several seasons now. Even their
> luxury items are gone.
>
> The ONE and ONLY time razors were available during ANY SEASON was when Kel
> donated his luxury item (razor and blades) to the rest of his tribe for
> them to make use of.
How do so many female Survivors have shaved underarms, then? Are the
production crew shaving the Survivors' underarms to make them look more
presentable?
The fact that they don't all have perfectly shaved underarms suggests
that some are shaving and others aren't. Jerri, Christy, Elisabeth, all
allowed their armpit hair to grow. You could see the contrast with
their female competitors.
Niki
> Keeping my mouth open continuously for 3 hours left me mighty sore
Now ya know how we gals feel about giving bj's! ;-)
--
Niki
Joe Mamma
> --
Joe Mamma
>
> There are different reasons for needing root canals, not brushing being
> a relatively scarce one. Check the facts before making judgments.
>
were on a sports thang, get it?
Steven L.
Roarmeister wrote:
Yes, the spoilers ruined it. We knew in advance the wedding would be
successful.
Smak!
You give 3 hour BJ's?
Outt..
Jeff.
badwilson
I bet many women get their legs and armpits waxed before going on the
show. I would. This would keep you relatively hair free for about a
month or maybe even longer.
Hunter Rose
If it's taking you that long to 'get results', you're doing
something wrong!
HR
Hunter Rose
<sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>How do so many female Survivors have shaved underarms, then? Are the
>production crew shaving the Survivors' underarms to make them look more
>presentable?
>
>The fact that they don't all have perfectly shaved underarms suggests
>that some are shaving and others aren't. Jerri, Christy, Elisabeth, all
>allowed their armpit hair to grow. You could see the contrast with
>their female competitors.
Maybe they had them waxed before they left for the show?
HR
P.S. *OW*!!!!!!
Charlene Charette
> How do so many female Survivors have shaved underarms, then? Are the
> production crew shaving the Survivors' underarms to make them look more
> presentable?
>
> The fact that they don't all have perfectly shaved underarms suggests
> that some are shaving and others aren't. Jerri, Christy, Elisabeth, all
> allowed their armpit hair to grow. You could see the contrast with
> their female competitors.
Why do some men have fuller beards than others? Genetics. Some people
grow hair more than others. And some hair is too light to see on TV.
Since you're not used to seeing un-shaved women in the US, you wouldn't
notice. I've known women who didn't shave and you couldn't tell by
looking at them.
--Charlene
--
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soda taste more like grapes than grapes do. -- Bayan, Rick; The Cynic's
Dictionary, 2002
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Charlene Charette
> I bet many women get their legs and armpits waxed before going on the
> show. I would. This would keep you relatively hair free for about a
> month or maybe even longer.
Better to grow it out before going. There's a stage where it gets
really prickly and itchy. Went on an extended camping trip and it was
miserable until it grew out long enough.
Roarmeister
for 3 friggin hours??? and just what exactly is your profession??? :-)
Rick
"Roarmeister" <ebnezr...@argfpncr.arg> wrote in message
news:n1f791pi55lfvpufi...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:51:03 -0700, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Steven L. wrote:
> >>Because by American standards, it's OK for "male eye candy"
> >>to have moustaches and beards, but it's not OK for "female eye
> >>candy" to have hairy legs and hairy armpits. But if everybody
> >>were well groomed, then the show wouldn't look like realistic
> >>survival. So I guess they adopted this compromise.
> >
> >Out of curiousity, what is the 'factual' basis for the claim that women
are
> >given shaving equipment, but the men aren't?
>
> Absolutely NONE.
>
> I have the kit list for S2 and I can't imagine them giving them anymore
> than that considering the seasons have generally been getting sparser of
> items. Bear in mind that the clothing list has been thrown out the window
> since they haven't had extra clothing for several seasons now. Even their
> luxury items are gone.
>
> The ONE and ONLY time razors were available during ANY SEASON was when Kel
> donated his luxury item (razor and blades) to the rest of his tribe for
> them to make use of.
>
If I am remembering right, Sue Hawk had a razor on S1 and she allowed Rudy
to use it to shave his beard.
Back when the Survivors were allowed luxury items, some women opted to bring
a razor. I don't believe they were ever offered routinely to all
participants.
Obveeus
Steven L. wrote:
>How do so many female Survivors have shaved underarms, then?
As other posters have noted, not everyone is covered in dark, thick hair.
Also, permanent hair removal is very popular in this country, so it
shouldn't be at all surprising that not everyone has underarm hair growing.
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Steven L. wrote:
> ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote:
>
> >>The question I always wondered about is how the Survivors manage to
> >
> > do
> >
> >>those long endurance IC's without needing to take bathroom breaks.
> >
> > In
> >
> >>this latest one, Katie was on the perch for over 5 hours, and Tom and
> >
> >
> >>Ian were on their perches for over 11 hours! How the heck did they
> >
> > go
> >
> >>so long without peeing?
> >
> >
> > What, you can't go 5 hours without? Sheesh. They can prepare
> > beforehand, of course...by not drinking or eating.
>
> Then they would be much more prone to dehydration in the warm sun. In
> S8 (in Panama), Jeff Probst said the temperature had hit 106 degrees
> Fahrenheit. No one should be out in that type of heat without becoming
> thoroughly hydrated first.
But, if you're out in the sun and sweating freely, you can be totally
hydrated and not have to pee at all. Ask a race car driver.
N.
Douglas Berry
his beer, leaned back in the alt.tv.survivor beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
>Roarmeister wrote:
>
>> Keeping my mouth open continuously for 3 hours left me mighty sore
>
>Now ya know how we gals feel about giving bj's! ;-)
Three hours?
Um. You free for dinner?
--
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
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rick++
And one by Hatch (completely devoid of info).
VH1 had a five hour mini-series called the Reality of Reality Shows
which had lots of info.
PLus there have been tons of websites and feature articles in
entertainment magazines. Most of these have focused on
personalities and games rather than behind the scenes.
What do people consider to be the most comprehensive website?
rick++
for the first few cycles. Some of the reward challenges provided
fabric and gear. I wondered how Ian recovered his eyeglasses
when he wasnt wearing them in the boat. Ian and Tom seemed
to have acquired new shorts toward the end.
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
I thought the different clothes were ones donated or left behind by the
survivors who had gotten kicked off already.
N.
mathilda
hanky-panky was off limits on the show - way too much potential for a
Ghandia situation & then some.
Steven L.
Charlene Charette wrote:
> Steven L. wrote:
>
>> How do so many female Survivors have shaved underarms, then? Are the
>> production crew shaving the Survivors' underarms to make them look
>> more presentable?
>>
>> The fact that they don't all have perfectly shaved underarms suggests
>> that some are shaving and others aren't. Jerri, Christy, Elisabeth,
>> all allowed their armpit hair to grow. You could see the contrast
>> with their female competitors.
>
>
> Why do some men have fuller beards than others? Genetics. Some people
> grow hair more than others. And some hair is too light to see on TV.
Generally armpit hair has the same color as facial hair, yes? So all
those brunettes should have armpit hair that's easy to spot.
Also, in S10, Caryn had started to grow a little moustache--but no
armpit hair.
> Since you're not used to seeing un-shaved women in the US, you wouldn't
> notice.
One of my recent former girlfriends had armpit hair (not all that much
though). Maybe that's why I do notice.
What country are you from?
Roarmeister
>
>"Roarmeister" <ebnezr...@argfpncr.arg> wrote in message
>news:n1f791pi55lfvpufi...@4ax.com...
>> The ONE and ONLY time razors were available during ANY SEASON was when Kel
>> donated his luxury item (razor and blades) to the rest of his tribe for
>> them to make use of.
Doh! Opps....
>If I am remembering right, Sue Hawk had a razor on S1 and she allowed Rudy
>to use it to shave his beard.
Hmm, in the ball park but no cigar. Sue brought tweezers.
But you are correct with the season (and I wasn't - my bad), Sean brought
the first razor. Ted brought one in S5 to shave his head, I don't think
he shared.
>Back when the Survivors were allowed luxury items, some women opted to bring
>a razor. I don't believe they were ever offered routinely to all
>participants.
Now that you mention it, NO, I just checked :-) but in some of the luxury
rewards there were soaps/shampoos and stuff and there well could have been
razors included, I just can't remember off hand.
Roarmeister
Not in the least. There is still human nature. :-)
Besides each and every contestant is tested for sexual transmitted diseases
(blood tests and visual) during the second stage interviews.
Source: Elisabeth Hasselback
Steven L.
Hanky-panky is impossible to prohibit on Survivor or anywhere else on
planet Earth.
On S4, Gina and Hunter very likely did have sex, according to the gossip
media.
BTW, on Big Brother 4, Amanda and David not only had sex around 3 AM,
but the night vision camera broadcast it live over the Internet.