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Brandon Hantz banned from Survivor reunion as Russell Hantz threatens Phillip Sheppard

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noteven_...@yahoo.com

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Brian Smith

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I had heard that Brandon wasn't going to be allowed to come to the reunion
but this still doesn't explain why. I don't recall hearing that Brandon has
threatened Phillip since the show finished shooting so it's odd that his ban
might be related to Russell making threats yet Russell claims he's going.
Like one of the commenters said, this sounds like a setup to promote next
season.

Brian

noteven_...@yahoo.com

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doob doob

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Brian said:

"I had heard that Brandon wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
reunion but this still doesn't explain why. I don't recall hearing that
Brandon has threatened Phillip since the show finished shooting so it's
odd that his ban might be related to Russell making threats yet Russell
claims he's going. Like one of the commenters said, this sounds like a
setup to promote next season. "


The Hantz family will only be allowed to attend if they are strapped on
a dolly wearing a 'Hannibal' mask.

And no...the dolly can't be Amanda.

:-)

shawn

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May 12, 2013, 10:32:03 AM5/12/13
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I read that differentily. It sounded like Phillip complained about
Brandon coming to the reunion because he was afraid of what Brandon
might do. That resulted in Brandon not being asked to come and THAT
resulted in Russell making his threats. At least that's how I read
the time line.

Michael Black

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May 12, 2013, 11:14:25 AM5/12/13
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That's what seemed implied by what was said.

It wsa two different things, Brandon not coming to the reunion, some
argument between Russell and Phillip. The only thing I can think of that
connects them is because of what you say.

Michael

FirstHit

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May 12, 2013, 2:47:20 PM5/12/13
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It seems to me that rather than not invite Brandon, they could keep a distance between Brandon and Phillip and make sure security is prepared for anything Brandon might do.

An alternative to that would be to bring Brandon on via satellite.

I'd be interested to hear what Brandon has to say at this point in time. After that though, I'd very much prefer they let him go his own way for good.

FirstHit

Michael Black

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May 12, 2013, 3:42:58 PM5/12/13
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On Sun, 12 May 2013, FirstHit wrote:



> It seems to me that rather than not invite Brandon, they could keep a
> distance between Brandon and Phillip and make sure security is prepared
> for anything Brandon might do.
>
The opposite of inviting Brandon is specifically telling him he's not
invited. Simply not inviting him is hoping he'll go away, when he's more
likely to show up anyway.


> An alternative to that would be to bring Brandon on via satellite.
>
Or just put him in another room where he can watch the proceedings, and
once or twice Jeff can say "now we'll go to the green room to hear from
Brandon, now in exile".


> I'd be interested to hear what Brandon has to say at this point in time.
> After that though, I'd very much prefer they let him go his own way for
> good.
>
I never had any interest in him or his uncle, so I really don't care one
bit about what he'd say.

Michael

FirstHit

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May 12, 2013, 3:59:44 PM5/12/13
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It's not that I'm interested in Brandon per se. When people do crazy things, I like to see how many of them wise up. Largely, people don't wise up, unfortunately.

FirstHit
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legal process

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> In article <1a8d34c4-dc2c-465a...@googlegroups.com>,
> FirstHit <Firs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> > I never had any interest in him or his uncle, so I really don't care
>> > one
>> >
>> > bit about what he'd say.
>>
>> It's not that I'm interested in Brandon per se. When people do crazy
>> things,
>> I like to see how many of them wise up. Largely, people don't wise up,
>> unfortunately.
>
> And you're the reason they keep inviting the Hantzes, and why shows like
> Real Housewives exist.
>
> You like to watch the train wrecks.

Does this mean there's an audience for Mama June to be on "The Biggest
Loser" and Honey Boo Boo to be featured, at the appropriate time of her
life, on "Are You Smarter Than A Trailer Trash 5th Grader?"
??????????????


Brian Smith

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"shawn" wrote in message news:cs9vo8hs8clpafb7l...@4ax.com...
That's how I read it as well but I still don't see any evidence for why they
think Brandon would do something. If he's threatened Phillip postgame I can
see banning him but what Russell has to say shouldn't even be a factor.
Brandon doesn't even listen to him so why the big worry?

Brian

FirstHit

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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:23:14 PM UTC-7, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <1a8d34c4-dc2c-465a...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> FirstHit <Firs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > I never had any interest in him or his uncle, so I really don't care one
>
> > >
>
> > > bit about what he'd say.
>
> >
>
> > It's not that I'm interested in Brandon per se. When people do crazy things,
>
> > I like to see how many of them wise up. Largely, people don't wise up,
>
> > unfortunately.
>
>
>
> And you're the reason they keep inviting the Hantzes, and why shows like
>
> Real Housewives exist.
>
>
>
> You like to watch the train wrecks.

That's complete BS. I hate the train wrecks, and I've made comments in this group that I don't like them casting them and then bringing them back for more.

FirstHit

shawn

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May 12, 2013, 5:51:04 PM5/12/13
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Why would you want to subject the lovely Dolly to the Hantz family?
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FirstHit

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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:20:13 PM UTC-7, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <abeb0a8a-e8a7-492a...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> FirstHit <Firs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > And you're the reason they keep inviting the Hantzes, and why shows like
>
> > >
>
> > > Real Housewives exist.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > You like to watch the train wrecks.
>
> >
>
> > That's complete BS. I hate the train wrecks, and I've made comments in this
>
> > group that I don't like them casting them and then bringing them back for
>
> > more.
>
>
>
> But you watch. And that's all these "entertainment" conglomerates care
>
> about.

Do you watch?

FirstHit

Brian Smith

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Elmo's on a crusade now making statements trying to portray people a certain
way or making claims trying to discredit them so they fit his vision. The
guy is truly sick in the head.

Brian

Don Bruder

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May 12, 2013, 6:57:57 PM5/12/13
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In article <el30p8tkoq52rkj76...@4ax.com>,
Amen... Even a cloned sheep has the right to a quick, clean death,
rather than having its mentality slowly reduced to that of a small bowl
of strawberry jam from overexposure to something even stupider than
itself.

--
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Don Bruder

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In article <ycydnfdx-LoRng3M...@earthlink.com>,
God forbid... The only thing those two should ever be allowed to be
featured on is a public execution. Their deaths couldn't help but
increase the average IQ of the human race by several points.

Brian Smith

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May 12, 2013, 7:02:11 PM5/12/13
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message
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>
>In article <IxTjt.15738$iY4....@newsfe13.iad>,
> "Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >>I had heard that Brandon wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
>> >>reunion
>> >>but this still doesn't explain why. I don't recall hearing that Brandon
>> >>has
>> >>threatened Phillip since the show finished shooting so it's odd that
>> >>his
>> >>ban
>> >>might be related to Russell making threats yet Russell claims he's
>> >>going.
>> >>Like one of the commenters said, this sounds like a setup to promote
>> >>next
>> >>season.
>> >>
>> >I read that differentily. It sounded like Phillip complained about
>> >Brandon coming to the reunion because he was afraid of what Brandon
>> >might do. That resulted in Brandon not being asked to come and THAT
>> >resulted in Russell making his threats. At least that's how I read
>> >the time line.
>>
>> That's how I read it as well but I still don't see any evidence for why
>> they
>> think Brandon would do something.
>
>In this world full of worried little girls, all it takes is one person
>to say "I'm afraid" and the next thing you know the Gestapo is out in
>full force, "protecting" that "afraid" person.
>
>If Phillip indeed said "I'm afraid," that's all it would take for CBS to
>overreact. God forbid there should be any rational thought whatsoever.

I seem to recall Russell making threatening statements toward Boston Rob
after Heroes vs. Villains and that led to them both being in the audience
for the S21 finale and then they played against each other in S22. With 16
other people up on the stage I'm sure some of them (e.g., Malcolm, Reynold,
Eddie) could grab Brandon before he got to Phillip. Brandon probably just
doesn't want to go to face the same type of questioning he got last time.

Brian

Brian Smith

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May 12, 2013, 7:05:23 PM5/12/13
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"Don Bruder" wrote in message news:kmp6m8$o3b$2...@dont-email.me...
I've never watched that show but have seen a snippet here and there on
ET-type shows. Just what is so appealing about the show that it gets so much
media attention? Looks stupider than hell to me. Is there even a premise to
the show?

Brian

Don Bruder

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May 12, 2013, 7:21:08 PM5/12/13
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In article <elmop-332249.18193112052013@[78.46.70.116]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <IxTjt.15738$iY4....@newsfe13.iad>,
> "Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>I had heard that Brandon wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
> > >>reunion
> > >>but this still doesn't explain why. I don't recall hearing that Brandon
> > >>has
> > >>threatened Phillip since the show finished shooting so it's odd that his
> > >>ban
> > >>might be related to Russell making threats yet Russell claims he's going.
> > >>Like one of the commenters said, this sounds like a setup to promote next
> > >>season.
> > >>
> > >I read that differentily. It sounded like Phillip complained about
> > >Brandon coming to the reunion because he was afraid of what Brandon
> > >might do. That resulted in Brandon not being asked to come and THAT
> > >resulted in Russell making his threats. At least that's how I read
> > >the time line.
> >
> > That's how I read it as well but I still don't see any evidence for why
> > they
> > think Brandon would do something.
>
> In this world full of worried little girls, all it takes is one person
> to say "I'm afraid" and the next thing you know the Gestapo is out in
> full force, "protecting" that "afraid" person.
>
> If Phillip indeed said "I'm afraid," that's all it would take for CBS to
> overreact. God forbid there should be any rational thought whatsoever.

A cloud of weighted yellow hankies flies through the air to land near
Elmo's feet as a referee's whistle is blown repeatedly. When they stop
flying, Elmo can be seen to be roughly knee deep in yellow cloth. After
a moment, the camera zooms in for a tight shot on one of the zebras who
comes jogging over, showing him briefly fumbling at his belt to turn on
his microphone. He begins speaking:

The flag errr, the pile of flags on the field is against Elmo for using
the name of the wannabe secret-agent-man and the words "rational
thought" together in the same post. Scorekeeper, please put 58 seconds
back on the clock, and score three immunities to Brian. In addition, the
ball is now Brian's at this location, from which we'll impose a penalty
of half the distance to the goal against Elmo. First down.

As the crowd cheers wildly, we see him reach to fumble at his belt
again, trying to turn off his mic, but apparently he misses, as we can
clearly hear "We SO need to be able to just plain shoot offenders like
that" followed by a heavy sigh and a muttered "Damn... these new mics
are a pain in th<click>

legal process

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"Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I've never actually watched the show either.... but, as far as I can see,
the premise is to decide whether the subtitles for people who are presumably
speaking English are accurate.


legal process

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...Questions, like, for example, about his wife...


Brian Smith

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"legal process" wrote in message
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If they have subtitles then their budget is bigger than I thought.

I did hear the other week that the producers paid the parents $100k to get
married so I take it that will be a "storyline" for next season.

Brian

Brian Smith

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"legal process" wrote in message
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I think Brandon's back together with his wife and now they have about three
kids. That's probably a reality show in the making with the various other
Hantzs in supporting roles.

Brian

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The Horny Goat

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On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:22:37 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>I think there ought to be an All Train Wrecks season of Survivor.

That could be fun though there are others I'd love to see back first -
Lil Kim from S6, that woman who beat Osten in the water bearer
challenge so convincingly, I wouldn't even mind seeing Lex again.

Maybe have Kelly Wigglesworth host a couple of challenges. Or even JFP
if he and JP could bury the hatchet.

One question I have though - when was this season filmed? I'm sure it
wasn't nine months ago and Brenda looked extremely pregnant (and
extremely fit as well - good for her!). Despite the Dutch Big Brother
casting a houseguest that gave birth on the show I can't imagine MB
casting a pregnant woman for legal reasons yet I'm sure the show
wasn't filmed 9 months ago...

No question John Cochran is a changed man - hard to believe he's only
a year older than my just graduated from law school daughter who is so
very tentative about her career prospects!

The Horny Goat

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On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:19:31 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <IxTjt.15738$iY4....@newsfe13.iad>,
> "Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>In this world full of worried little girls, all it takes is one person
>to say "I'm afraid" and the next thing you know the Gestapo is out in
>full force, "protecting" that "afraid" person.
>
>If Phillip indeed said "I'm afraid," that's all it would take for CBS to
>overreact. God forbid there should be any rational thought whatsoever.

Why just Philip? I would think half the women in the show would say
they were nervous about Brandon's behaviour...

Bigolhomo

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On Mon, 13 May 2013 00:03:38 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:

>I can't imagine MB
>casting a pregnant woman for legal reasons yet I'm sure the show
>wasn't filmed 9 months ago...

Well there's no third option. She wa either pregnant when the show
was filming or it finished filming 9 months ago. Or they were lying
on the show and she's not really due "any day now"

Guardsman

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>>>>> The Horny Goat writes:

> One question I have though - when was this season filmed? I'm sure it
> wasn't nine months ago and Brenda looked extremely pregnant (and
> extremely fit as well - good for her!). Despite the Dutch Big Brother
> casting a houseguest that gave birth on the show I can't imagine MB
> casting a pregnant woman for legal reasons yet I'm sure the show
> wasn't filmed 9 months ago...


You don't know when it was filmed but you're sure it wasn't more
than 9 months ago? Wikipedia says it was filmed May 21, 2012 - June 28,
2012. Why are you so sure that's wrong?

--

Brian Smith

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"Bigolhomo" wrote in message
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It was filmed a long time ago because they do back-to-back seasons and
started months earlier last year. Shoot dates were May 21 to June 28, 2012
which is over 10 months ago.

Brian

FirstHit

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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:17:55 PM UTC-7, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <d643fd13-9809-482a...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> FirstHit <Firs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > You like to watch the train wrecks.
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > That's complete BS. I hate the train wrecks, and I've made comments in
>
> > > > this
>
> > >
>
> > > > group that I don't like them casting them and then bringing them back for
>
> > >
>
> > > > more.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > But you watch. And that's all these "entertainment" conglomerates care
>
> > >
>
> > > about.
>
> >
>
> > Do you watch?
>
>
>
> Survivor? Yes. But I cringe at the Phillip and Hantz behavior.

Same here.

> Do I watch Housewives, Kardashians, honey boo boo, et al.? No. Never
>
> seen them. The *only* reason I even know they exists is because of
>
> others who do watch them and comment on them.

I have never watched any of these programs either.

> (That's the nice part about having a DVR that skips commercials...I
>
> watch what I want when I want to, and see only the programming itself.)

I have a DVR too.

So we're equally guilty--or not guilty--of encouraging the networks to put on the train wrecks.

FirstHit
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doob doob

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E-mo said:


"In this world full of worried little girls, all it takes is one person
to say "I'm afraid" and the next thing you know the Gestapo is out in
full force, "protecting" that "afraid" person."


Brilliant.

Ever think of running for mayor of Cleveland?

doob doob

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Elmo said:

"I think there ought to be an All Train Wrecks season of Survivor.
Maybe combine it with the Fans vs Favorites concept: mix up some Real
Housewives and Honey Boo Boo family on one side with Phillip and the two
Hantzes on the other.
The way Hantz Senior feels about women, I'd love to see him on a merged
tribe with some Kardashians and maybe Lindsay Lohan. "


Notice that as the finale draws nearer...E-mo gets more and more
agitated?


:-)


Michael Black

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May 13, 2013, 9:10:39 AM5/13/13
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They used to film relatively close to air time. Almost a year in advance
is a long time for the contestants to keep quiet.

Michael

Michael Black

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May 13, 2013, 9:13:20 AM5/13/13
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Actually, May 21st is coming up next Tuesday, so it's a week less than a
year since filming began. It ended 11 months ago.

Michael

The Horny Goat

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On Mon, 13 May 2013 02:11:06 -0600, "Brian Smith"
<dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Well there's no third option. She wa either pregnant when the show
>>was filming or it finished filming 9 months ago. Or they were lying
>>on the show and she's not really due "any day now"
>
>It was filmed a long time ago because they do back-to-back seasons and
>started months earlier last year. Shoot dates were May 21 to June 28, 2012
>which is over 10 months ago.

Thanks Brian - the shoot dates were what I was looking for - wow
didn't realize they shot that far ahead! Must have been hell for
Cochran feeling sure he'd won and not being able to say anything.

Reminds me of 1987 when I was leaving my job to join the family
business, had sold my house at a much bigger price than expected and
couldn't celebrate with anyone but the missus (who had just spread the
happy word that "We're PREGNANT!!!")

shawn

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May 13, 2013, 12:58:29 PM5/13/13
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On Mon, 13 May 2013 09:10:39 -0400, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca>
wrote:
They still do film one season close to air time. It's the change they
made to film two season's back to back with a week or two between
filming that ends up with the second season not airing until 10-11
months later. The first season filmed each year only has about 4
months before it starts to air.

Brian Smith

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May 13, 2013, 5:25:56 PM5/13/13
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"shawn" wrote in message news:iq62p8ph4dmsdf7in...@4ax.com...
The gaps won't be as long as for S25 and S26 because they're going back to
the original two seasons in a row shooting schedule. Last year they moved
things up a few months to accommodate Jeff's talk show. Now that his show's
been cancelled they seem to have gone back to the May-August timeframe.

Brian

Brian Smith

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>
>On Sun, 12 May 2013 15:08:54 -0600, "Brian Smith"
><dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"shawn" wrote in message
>>news:cs9vo8hs8clpafb7l...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Sat, 11 May 2013 12:54:39 -0600, "Brian Smith"
>>><dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>wrote in message
>>>>news:e7d9c4d5-569c-4aee...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>Brandon Hantz banned from Survivor reunion as Russell Hantz threatens
>>>>>Phillip Sheppard + reality blurred
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_caramoan/2013_May_10_brandon-banned-finale
>>>>>
>>>>>When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I
>>>>>reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood
>>>>>behind me. - 1 Corinthians 13:11
>>>>
>>>>I had heard that Brandon wasn't going to be allowed to come to the
>>>>reunion
>>>>but this still doesn't explain why. I don't recall hearing that Brandon
>>>>has
>>>>threatened Phillip since the show finished shooting so it's odd that his
>>>>ban
>>>>might be related to Russell making threats yet Russell claims he's
>>>>going.
>>>>Like one of the commenters said, this sounds like a setup to promote
>>>>next
>>>>season.
>>>>
>>>I read that differentily. It sounded like Phillip complained about
>>>Brandon coming to the reunion because he was afraid of what Brandon
>>>might do. That resulted in Brandon not being asked to come and THAT
>>>resulted in Russell making his threats. At least that's how I read
>>>the time line.
>>
>>That's how I read it as well but I still don't see any evidence for why
>>they
>>think Brandon would do something. If he's threatened Phillip postgame I
>>can
>>see banning him but what Russell has to say shouldn't even be a factor.
>>Brandon doesn't even listen to him so why the big worry?
>>
>>Brian
>
>CBS made their bed with the Hantz boys, they can now lay in it.
>
>
>Aloha Spicoli...

If the pre-jury people are backup on stage at the next reunion then will
know for sure that CBS put them in the audience this time to deal with
Brandon. By not even doing a shot of them as a group in the audience they
conveniently didn't even have to address Brandon's absence.

Brian

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Brian Smith

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>
>On Mon, 13 May 2013 15:29:41 -0600, "Brian Smith"
>It wouldn't surprise me. I like having all the players up there. You
>do not have to be around long to make an impression.
>
>
>Aloha Spicoli...

According to Shawn Hantz, Brandon's dad, CBS asked Brandon and his family
not to show up.

Shawn Hantz ‏@shawnjhantz 12 May
CBS requested that Brandon and family not be there.... that's why they
changed the seating arrangement this year.
8:49 PM - 12 May 13 · Details

Andrea Nurse‏@AndreaRNurse
@shawnjhantz seriously? They asked you all not to come? Not Brandon either?
Wow that's crazy!!
8:56 PM - 12 May 13

Shawn Hantz ‏@shawnjhantz 12 May
@AndreaRNurse they said there will No Hantz in are around the building!
9:04 PM - 12 May 13 · Details

So no doubt next season it'll be back to the normal seating arrangement.

Brian

The Horny Goat

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On Mon, 13 May 2013 15:25:56 -0600, "Brian Smith"
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>The gaps won't be as long as for S25 and S26 because they're going back to
>the original two seasons in a row shooting schedule. Last year they moved
>things up a few months to accommodate Jeff's talk show. Now that his show's
>been cancelled they seem to have gone back to the May-August timeframe.

Thanks for the clarification - I confess I was wondering how she had
time to get pregnant and get that big that quick ... she really looked
good carrying and it was ironic her outfit didn't the least emphasize
her breasts as she seldom got out of her bikini on the island.

(Who me say something chauvinistic???)

I didn't recall her saying something about having somebody at home
though obviously given her condition she does / did.

Brian Smith

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I heard she's engaged to the father. No idea what order things occurred in
though!

Brian

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doob doob

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Brian said:

"According to Shawn Hantz, Brandon's dad, CBS asked Brandon and his
family not to show up."



Maybe they thought that they'd all get upset seeing Phil in a 'Hantz
Hat'.

Michael Black

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On Mon, 13 May 2013, The Horny Goat wrote:

> On Mon, 13 May 2013 15:25:56 -0600, "Brian Smith"
> <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The gaps won't be as long as for S25 and S26 because they're going back to
>> the original two seasons in a row shooting schedule. Last year they moved
>> things up a few months to accommodate Jeff's talk show. Now that his show's
>> been cancelled they seem to have gone back to the May-August timeframe.
>
> Thanks for the clarification - I confess I was wondering how she had
> time to get pregnant and get that big that quick ... she really looked
> good carrying and it was ironic her outfit didn't the least emphasize
> her breasts as she seldom got out of her bikini on the island.
>
> (Who me say something chauvinistic???)
>
She has a wonderful face, which then naturally leads one to notice the
rest of her.

> I didn't recall her saying something about having somebody at home
> though obviously given her condition she does / did.
>
Well if she didn't have someone at home, the romance was quite fast.

Michael

Brian Smith

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Russell was tweeting Sunday evening during the show and was bitching about
how he was being disrespected. Someone sent him a message and told him that
his photo was by the security gate at the entrance. CBS must have been
serious about keeping him out. There's still no proof (at least out in the
public) that Brandon threatened Phillip so I don't get why he was banned.
Guilt by association? Past craziness? Combo of the two?!

Brian

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FirstHit

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Remember, the past craziness did include a physical threat to Phillip. Once a treat like that is made, the person is always going to be considered a question mark.

FirstHit
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BTR1701

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In article <70vkt.5694$EO2....@newsfe02.iad>,
"Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Russell was tweeting Sunday evening during the show and was bitching about
> how he was being disrespected. Someone sent him a message and told him that
> his photo was by the security gate at the entrance. CBS must have been
> serious about keeping him out. There's still no proof (at least out in the
> public) that Brandon threatened Phillip so I don't get why he was banned.
> Guilt by association? Past craziness? Combo of the two?!

If Brandon wasn't allowed to participate at all, why did they have to
seat the rest of them in the audience? That only makes sense if he was
going to be there and they didn't want him on stage.

Brian Smith

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In the interview that Jeff did with Dalton Ross (I posted it in another
thread) he claims because they were at a new venue and the stage wasn't big
enough that their designers couldn't get everyone on stage. Total BS answer
as far as I'm concerned. That stage had plenty of room for 10 more people
and it's not like the people who do this kind of work couldn't have figured
that out.

Brian

The Horny Goat

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On Tue, 14 May 2013 18:44:21 -0700, BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:

>If Brandon wasn't allowed to participate at all, why did they have to
>seat the rest of them in the audience? That only makes sense if he was
>going to be there and they didn't want him on stage.

I was quite surprised they even let him do his thing for the 'Fallen
Comrades' segment - from the way he spoke the viewer who had not
watched the whole season might think it was a small thing. Sure you
saw the dumping of the rice but what was shown during the segment sure
didn't suggest anything unusual had happened.

Perhaps that was part of the deal for him not coming to the finale?

Brian Smith

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Before the season started there were a ton of spoilers/rumors going around.
A lot of them ended up being correct including how Brandon lost it at camp
and ended up being booted via an impromptu TC. Another rumor was that
Brandon lost it at Losers Lodge and attacked someone. A staff member IIRC.
No way of knowing for sure if this true but someone on the inside was
providing good spoiler info this season. If it is true, I would say it's the
real reason why CBS didn't want Brandon around because we've seen people
dump food and trash talk before and nothing happened. Usually MB and CBS
love that stuff.

Brian

FirstHit

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On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:59:13 PM UTC-7, Brian Smith wrote:

> Before the season started there were a ton of spoilers/rumors going around.
> A lot of them ended up being correct including how Brandon lost it at camp
> and ended up being booted via an impromptu TC. Another rumor was that
> Brandon lost it at Losers Lodge and attacked someone. A staff member IIRC.
> No way of knowing for sure if this true but someone on the inside was
> providing good spoiler info this season. If it is true, I would say it's the
> real reason why CBS didn't want Brandon around because we've seen people
> dump food and trash talk before and nothing happened. Usually MB and CBS
> love that stuff.

I wonder if the second rumor is just a corrupted version of the first rumor.

Let's assume though that the second rumor is true. Why then has this rumor not been confirmed by contestants who were at Losers Lodge at the same time? Is it likely contestants were sworn to secrecy over such things? Just some thoughts of mine at this late hour.

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number6

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On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:08:12 AM UTC-4, Aloha Ray Walston wrote:

>
>
> Ah the good old "Fallen Comrades" segment. Easily the chessiest moment
>
> of every Survivor season and a total waste of time. What would have
>
> been funny was if the bonfire figure for the torch burning looked like
>
> Brandon.... The guy was a smoldering "author of his own demise" anyway

My wife was all set to fast forward through it as we usually do ... but I thought that Cochran would have some intelligent insight or comments ... Nope, even he couldn't make it rise above the chessiest moment level ...

Michael Black

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On Wed, 15 May 2013, Aloha wrote:
> Agreed. You'll see them all back up there next season. They spin it as
> one of those "the fans spoke about our new format and we listened"
> deals...
>
So did the fans demand this new format this time? Did they demand "Boston
Rob" and the girl?

They are constantly telling us we want something, yet so much of the time
it's not what I'm feeling. It may reflect a reality of a large number of
viewers, but we never know.

It's like magazines that aren't doing so well, they have a makeover and
tell us how they are improving the magazine "just for you". And then the
magazine fails, unable to attract new readers and losing the old because
of the changes.

Michael

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theres talk bh is on the no fly list so he wouldnt drive over
10hours.

The Horny Goat

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On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:39:27 -0600, "Brian Smith"
<dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In the interview that Jeff did with Dalton Ross (I posted it in another
>thread) he claims because they were at a new venue and the stage wasn't big
>enough that their designers couldn't get everyone on stage. Total BS answer
>as far as I'm concerned. That stage had plenty of room for 10 more people
>and it's not like the people who do this kind of work couldn't have figured
>that out.

I completely agree - besides in a show with Survivor's budget if they
can't design a set to get everyone on stage they're in the wrong
venue.

I completely agree that that's a BS answer

Brian Smith

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Fans definitely didn't demand the new format. When Corrine tweeted that the
pre-jurors found out in rehearsal that they would be sitting in the audience
she got a ton of tweets back saying it was complete crap that they weren't
going to get to be on stage with the others. The others got a ton of tweets
as well. Laura managed to get her mom a ticket to the reunion (her mom's a
huge fan) and then finds out she won't be on stage. She also went out at the
last minute to get a nice dress for the occasion and wasn't even shown on
TV. This was really unfair to all of them and all because it seems like MB
didn't want to deal with explaining why Brandon wasn't at the reunion.
Unfair to us as well. The pre-jury girls looked smokin' hot from some of the
photos I've seen. At least Andrea was on stage.

Brian

Brian Smith

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"The Horny Goat" wrote in message
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And it's not like they changed venues at the last minute either. They had
months to work all of this out and much longer to deal with the Brandon
issue.

Brian

Brian Smith

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I thought the same thing but I'm convinced something else happened to freak
CBS out so much. If Brandon threatened Phillip after the game was over it
would have been via social media and people would be posting the tweet or
whatever. Hopefully more will come out about this or one of the other
players will squash the rumor.

Brian

FirstHit

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Yup, it would be good to find out what drove this whole new reunion setup, which I think was crap. I think it was probably not the right decision by MB. I'm not really a fan of him. I don't think he gives enough consideration to his contestants.

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Brian Smith

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It was actually CBS that made the decision. Something must have happened to
concern them this much but what we saw has happened before. Does anyone know
if the entire cast flies back to the U.S. on the same plane? Or is Losers
Lodge located in another destination far from where the game is being
played?

Brian

Brian Smith

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>
>In article <c127p81ckg1knrldh...@4ax.com>,
> Aloha Ray Walston wrote:
>
>> Ah the good old "Fallen Comrades" segment. Easily the chessiest moment
>> of every Survivor season
>
>didn't they skip it one season?

They did it but posted it on the web.

Brian

shawn

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:39:33 -0600, "Brian Smith"
I agree that the fans certainly didn't ask for this. What I would like
to see is something that works for production/CBS and the fans. I know
that they don't want to spend a lot of time on the people eliminated
early in the game so why not go ahead and film a session with Jeff and
all of those people that don't spend time with during the live show.
Give everyone a chance to express themselves and answer the questions
that have come up over the season. Then stick that on the CBS
website/Youtube and let anyone that wants to see it go watch. They can
even advertise it during the reunion show.

That gives CBS the opportunity to focus on the people that they (Jeff)
think will bring in viewers during the live reunion show and yet still
give everyone their time in the lime light.

shawn

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My understanding is that Loser's Lodge is usually far away from the
Ponderosa. That way they avoid having too many players in the same
area so that they might get recognized. Also I remember reading a
rumor a long time ago that Brandon was kept in a different location
from the rest of the cast including those that went pre-jury.

Brian Smith

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The web idea is a good one but I don't think the people who would be
relegated to it would be too happy. If they didn't show so many commercials
during the reunion they probably would have time to talk to everyone.

Brian

Brian Smith

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"shawn" wrote in message news:2g78p896gi4pg19j2...@4ax.com...
So if he did attack someone that would explain why no one else has talked
about it. Considering how often this show gets spoiled I don't get why they
just didn't send him home early. They could have told him to keep his mouth
shut about why he came back early and that would have given them tons of
preseason publicity as fans tried to guess what happened.

Brian

FirstHit

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It seems like in the "early days," there was time for every contestant to talk, and things were flushed out more. We'd get to hear why someone did what they did.

FirstHit

BTR1701

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In article <OrDkt.610$zk6...@newsfe25.iad>,
"Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "BTR1701" wrote in message
> news:atropos-D233A3...@news-europe.giganews.com...
> >
> >In article <70vkt.5694$EO2....@newsfe02.iad>,
> > "Brian Smith" <dcg_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Russell was tweeting Sunday evening during the show and was bitching
> >> about
> >> how he was being disrespected. Someone sent him a message and told him
> >> that
> >> his photo was by the security gate at the entrance. CBS must have been
> >> serious about keeping him out. There's still no proof (at least out in
> >> the
> >> public) that Brandon threatened Phillip so I don't get why he was banned.
> >> Guilt by association? Past craziness? Combo of the two?!
> >
> >If Brandon wasn't allowed to participate at all, why did they have to
> >seat the rest of them in the audience? That only makes sense if he was
> >going to be there and they didn't want him on stage.
>
> In the interview that Jeff did with Dalton Ross (I posted it in another
> thread) he claims because they were at a new venue and the stage wasn't big
> enough that their designers couldn't get everyone on stage. Total BS answer
> as far as I'm concerned. That stage had plenty of room for 10 more people
> and it's not like the people who do this kind of work couldn't have figured
> that out.

And it is the same venue where they've been for the past several years.
Sony Studios in Culver City.

Brian Smith

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Is it possible it was a different stage or is Jeff lying to us?

Brian

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On Thu, 16 May 2013, Aloha wrote:

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:52:40 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <c127p81ckg1knrldh...@4ax.com>,
>> Aloha Ray Walston wrote:
>>
>>> Ah the good old "Fallen Comrades" segment. Easily the chessiest moment
>>> of every Survivor season
>>
>> didn't they skip it one season?
>
> Which season was it, I'll go out and buy the DVD :D
>
I can't remember which season, but I'm pretty sure they did. It was
commented on here. I can't remember why it didn't happen, maybe they
decided it no longer had the impact or something, and then they realized
they needed it back, so it returns.

Michael

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