Oh for cryin' out loud, not again...
Master of Sympathy Rob: "Is she just, like, fucking around, you know?
Because she's like, she's a smart player and she's just trying to get some
money out of this? Is she going to sue him, or is it something that's really
bothering her?" Yeah, because people just don't sue when it _really_ bothers
them, only when they want some money. "But a situation that serious, you
can't even screw around. You gotta give her the benefit of the doubt."
Translation: if I say anything, she might sue _me_, that feminist
gold-digging bitch.
Are these people playing "Survivor", or "Big Brother"?
What's next? Jerri complains about Colby's cooking and quits? Kathy can't
stand all of Jerri's food talk and storms off in a huff? Alicia discovers
Rob called her one of his "rice-making girls" and is kicked off the show
after she pounds him into the ground? Colby, realizing his entire tribe is
"coasting under the radar", deliberately throws a challenge but gets himself
voted off? Rob quits after realizing he's not getting any more booze and
sober chatterbox Amber is just too much for him to deal with? Big Tom and
Rupert get tossed from the game in a "Survivor" steroid scandal?
Omorosa throws one last hissybitch fit before getting fired?
Yes, I know. I'm trivializing a deeply personal matter and I should be
ashamed. Blow me.
Now let's all say hi to Pettie, the Sexual Harrassment Panda, who will sing
a stupid song and hand out sexual harrassment pamphlets. Pettie?
"Who lives in the east behind a tree? Sexual Harrassment Panda! Who'll
explain sexual harrassment to you and me? Sexual Harrassment Panda! "Don't
say that!", "Don't touch that!", "Don't be nasty!" says the silly bear. He's
gonna tell you what's right and wrong. Sexual Harrassment Panda!"
Now let's all open our pamphlets to page fifty-three, The Book of Sue
chapter two, verse four: "Yay, for unto this day we did enter unto the
Valley of the Lawsuit..."
For cryin' out loud, Sue. Why didn't you just kick him in the balls when you
had the chance? I'd have handed you a big fat check just for that.
Can you sue the pants off a guy who doesn't wear any?
At least we know who's going to win the Tylenol "Push through the
[emotional] pain" award this week...
Kathy: "Jerri and Shii Ann are sheep. They will do whatever I say."
Shii Ann: "Kathy, you're so powerful right now." Translation: all my sucking
up to Richard got me nowhere, so I'll suck up to you now. Please don't vote
me off. I'm a loyal minion.
Kathy: "I can't stand that King Colby sent Lex, his messenger, over to tell
us women how to vote. Without even consulting us. That.... Texan. Who does
he think he is, George Bush?"
Shii Ann: "Kathy's the biggest power player of them all. She's has got us
all wrapped around her fingers. And if nobody's noticing that? She's one
darn good player." Gee, Shii, if Kathy's so strong, why did you spend the
first five episodes groveling at Richard's feet? Is there anyone you won't
suck up to?
Big Tom: "I really like ol' Rupert. He's kinda like me. He's easygoing,
nuthin' don't bother him. And, uh, I know it may cost me down the road,
because, you know, he could easily take my place." Lord, there isn't enough
whiskey in Panama for that to ever happen.
Sue, while prying off snail named Richard with her knife: "First, nobody
likes these goddamn things [stab stab stab], now everybody likes 'em. It's
pissin' me off." Uh oh...
Shii Ann: "My strategy of flying under the radar was pointed out by Colby
last night. Which, by the way, may not have been the smartest move on his
part." Yeah, because, you know, you're so powerful and all. Especially when
you're sucking up to Richard and Kathy. You wear brown so well, Shii Ann.
"He doesn't respect my game. I don't necessarily respect his. We're equal,
but, uh, I'm not dumb enough to tell him that." And he's not dumb enough to
believe it, either.
The talk around Camp Chapped Hair turns to speculation about who got voted
off. Rupert hopes it was Jerri. Bitter much, Rupert? Everyone hopes it was
Richard. Sue hopes so as well, and says what he did to her in the last
challenge wasn't right. She doesn't seem all that disturbed about it,
though. Maybe she needs to stew a bit longer.
Hey, you know something? All thse Survivors say that those snippets of
confessionals we see actually last for quite a long time on the island, and
just get edited way down, right? Well, I can't help but wonder if they
didn't work Sue over a bit too much out there. Maybe she really didn't think
it was The Worst Possible Thing In The World That Could Ever Happen To Her
until an interviewer asked her a few pointed questions and made her really
think about it all? I dunno. Just seems strange that she would be rather
blase about the encounter at first, and then become Mt. Vesuvius a day
later.
Sue, on her sleeping problems: "I kept laying there, waking up. Every time I
woke up, I could really feel Richard, naked. Kept flashing through my
head." Well hell, that'd drive me nuts too. I guess it's like Jenna Morasca
said in the first episode: these people have issues. Personally, I think Sue
never got past her "snakes and rats" speech from the "Survivor: Palu Tiga"
finale. I also think she has feelings for Richard. Respect, admiration,
maybe a lot deeper than that. And she doesn't want to admit them or deal
with them because of who and what he is and she's a married heterosexual
woman and it's just so...ick (for lack of a slimier description lol) to even
think about it. I think that's why we've seen all that teasing banter
between them this season. It's elementary school time, and Sue's been
teasing and taunting Playground King Richard because she can't tell him how
she really feels. And he'd been teasing and taunting right back because he's
a fuckin' asshole who was using a losing strategy.
Sue: "Why'd he have to touch me? He didn't touch no one else. Why didn't he
just walk by me?" Well, first of all, because you were standing on a tiny
wood beam with Kathy right behind you, trying to get by. So it's not like
there was a lot of room to maneuver. And second, you were on your way along
a different path when you backtracked and went right into that
confrontation. You didn't have to do that, Sue. You could have gone around
as well. You are not blameless here. Yes, he shouldn't have done what he
did. But neither should have you.
Sue, to Alicia: "I mean, it was gross. I've been with the same partner for
twenty years, never even thought about kissin' another guy." Kissing? Who
said anything about kissing? I'm telling you, mark my words: Sue has had
thoughts and feelings about Richard. She told Alicia off-camera that she was
worried about what her husband might think. Well, I can't speak for him, but
if it was me, I'd just say that was Richard being Richard and let it go.
It's not like that's going to affect my relationship or marriage any.
Or maybe Sue wasn't worried so much that her husband would see what Richard
did, but rather how she reacted to it? Thoughts and feelings...
Here's another thing that may have helped drive Sue over the edge. I'm
certain that, had this happened back home, Sue would have had her female
support group to console her, right? You know, the long phone calls, the
kleenex, the pity parties, the whole thing. (Oh man, am I going to sexist
peeeg hell for saying that or what!) The point is, she would have had women
she knows and trusts to get her through this. That, and other minor stuff
like, you know, a bed to sleep in and food to eat. But that's trivial.
Now let's look at Sue's Chapped Hair "support group". First we have Amber,
who obviously couldn't care less except that there's now more booze for her.
Then there's Bahsten Rob, who also couldn't care less because he wasn't
spooning with Sue (helloooooo, Jenna!), she's a strong-willed woman and
sooner or later he'd have to move against her, and he knows she isn't going
quietly (I think Jeff's ears are still ringing), and it means more booze for
Amber.
Rob: "Is she just, like, fucking around, you know? Because she's like, she's
a smart player and she's just trying to get some money out of this? Is she
going to sue him, or is it something that's really bothering her?" Yeah,
because people just don't sue when it _really_ bothers them. "But a
situation that serious, you can't even screw around. You gotta give her the
benefit of the doubt." Translation: if I say anything, she might sue _me_,
that feminist gold-digging bitch.
Rob privately speculates whether Sue is doing this because: a, "lookin' to
cash in on a huge payday"; b, she really is emotionally distraught; or c,
she thinks it's a winning "Survivor" strategy. Yeah, because, you know,
spending all your time alone and being an emotional powderkeg worked so well
for previous winners.
Why do I get the feeling that the only way Rob would be genuinely supportive
of Sue is if she cooked him a decent bowl of rice?
Then there's Alicia, who actually tried to be helpful and understanding,
but really, her attitude is "I just don't see what the fuss is all about
suck it up we gotta win challenges GO TEAM". (Maybe it's Alicia who gets
tossed in a "Survivor" steroid scandal?) Of course, Big Tom can't stand Sue,
as he repeatedly tells us this week. He can't wait for her to go so he can
do his "Deliverance" dance. (You remember, the one those Georgia hillbillies
did while Clay Aiken played the banjo...) Then there's the newbies, Jenna
and Rupert. Neither of whom seem to want to make any waves whatsoever in
their new tribe. And maybe Jenna feels that, hey, let it play out and I'll
be the last original Survivor left? And Rupert...well, he tried to talk to
her, but by then, she's just a wall. He thinks she's got "her own agenda"
now.
Looks like Sue went from Richard's snake to the Chapped Hair vipers. Maybe
it's time for this rat to desert the "Survivor" ship?
Uh oh... 8:21 and no Reward Challenge. Something's definitely wrong.
Jerri works on her grocery list. Gee, ya think this is one of those episodes
where everyone complains about the food, and the Reward Challenge involves a
really great feast? Naaahhhhhh....
See? Toldja something was wrong. I guess she's going to use her internet
access coconut phone to place an order with Netgrocer.com?
Jerri: "Ok, here's the list. It's pretty much all sweets, but it starts off
pretty healthy. I've got lettuce, chocolate, carrots, fudge, honey-roasted
extra-crunch peanut butter, chocolate, chocolate-flavored coffee,
coffee-flavored chocolate, marshmallows (big AND small), milk chocolate
chips, peanut butter chips, chocolate, chocolate chocolate chocolate with a
side of chocolate, peanut butter chocolate chips with fudge syrup, cherries,
cherries with chocolate, cherries with fudge, chocolate chocolate
chocolate..."
Kathy: "SHUT UP." Hey, Kathy, it could be worse. You could have both Jerri
_and_ Thailand's Helen in your tribe. Helen would recite her 400 chocolate
recipes, Jerri would make her list, and then the two of them would make the
Boran Boys Club go out and fetch.
Shii Ann: "I don't like the fact that our main food provider got voted out."
Yeah, and right after you guys discovered half of your food supply had
rotted away. Maybe you all should have stuck with the original plan to vote
out Ethan first? "Oh, Richard Hatch I miss you already! Where's the fish?"
It's right over there, in the ocean, with about a hundred million other
fish. Just waiting for someone to go out and catch them. And where are you,
Shii Ann? Laying around, whining and complaining, trying to coast under the
radar and being a dumbass.
"Someone" turns out to be Lex. Lex, wielder of the Poseidon Trident, the new
God of Fishing.
Hey, who knew? Not a lot of fish in the middle of Africa.
Ethan says he's "sitting back" today, and "letting" Lex "do it all". Uh huh.
Ethan shows how adept he is at placing Lex's catch into a bag. Go Ethan!
Lex brings back the fish, then lays them out according to species, size,
date of birth, and eye color. Lex likes to rub it in. He tells us he hopes
the women now see him as provider, and that he can use that as an alliance
to vote out Ethan and Colby.
Jerri wonders why Lex didn't catch any chocolate fish.
Robfather and Slutber decide to make an alliance with Jenna and Rupert.
Yeah, they're new, they're vulnerable, they don't completely hate our guts
yet, and we can slit their sacrificial lamb throats anytime...we...want...
Rob: "Rupert has a squeaky-clean image, and attitude. There's somethin'
about him I just don't trust." Yeah, that would be his squeaky-clean image
and attitude. Both of which are very, very French to you.
Say, Rupert, what do you want them to carve on your tombstone?
Rupert: "After sixteen days, I know that I can trust Jenna. I hope that I
can trust Rob and Amber. I feel pretty confident with where I'm at." You
trusted Pissant Jonny Foreskin and Burton, too, right?
They pinky shake on their alliance. Rupert makes sure Slutber is looking him
in the eye as they shake hands. Yeah, like that'll help any...
Oh, look! CBS.com is now taking applications for "Big Brother 5". I think
Richard and Sue should go on the show and work out their differences. (In
fact, didn't Sue already visit the BB house once, as a guest?)
Day 17, again...umm, still, I think. 8:30 and we're _finally_ getting some
tree mail. So, which got cut: the Immunity Challenge, the Tribal Council, or
both? See, 'cause this show's all about the intrigue and suspense and
buildup to TC, the sharp, pointed Q&A, and then the surprise votes. So I'm
really glad we've had so many great TCs this season with all the surprise
voting and no one quitting the game early because their inner Ouija Board
got an Instant Message or they pulled a Michael Skupin and burned their foot
on an ember. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Robfather Stumbletoes. I saw you
rubbing your foot earlier.
The tree mail is written on a bag of coffee beans. A bag with the words
"Coffee Beans" written on it. Because, you know, after 17 days these people
must surely have forgotten what coffee smells like, right?
Jerri: "There's enough here to keep me up for fve days." Yeah, and I see
Kathy and Shii Ann fighting over a Jerri-killing machete already...
Jerri: "Lex, youcan trust me, a hundred and fifty thousand percent." Jerri
didn't do well in math. "I absolutely adore you." Jerri got an "A" with five
plusses in Lying and Deception.
Lex: "And you know I trust you too." Lex's eyes do not blink. See, he, like
all reptiles, has this inner eyelid thingie that keeps out the dust. It's
great for seeing approaching backstabbers. Doesn't do a thing for inner
paranoia, though.
Jerri: "Out of everybody here, I would absolutely love to go with you." Take
me, Lex, please. I'm a helpless little lost lamb.
Lex: "I appreciate that. I really do." Well, you're fifth on my list, but
whatever. Now I can use you to leverage Kathy and Shii Ann. Sucker.
Rupert: "What if the Reward Challenge was a grill, and some seasonings, and
some meat?" Yeah, and what if you had a chance to share it, didn't take it,
lost the challenge, and ended up looking like a bunch of starving dumbasses?
Amber: "And a bottle of wine." Wow, maybe that's the only way Slutber can
stand Robfather's nightly advances?
Rob: "And a bottle of wine." Yup.
Amber: "Two bottles of wine." Slutber's planning ahead.
Tom: "Five bottles of wine." Tom, that's a cry for help.
Reward Challenge. (Finally! 8:34? Sheesh!)
Jeff asks whether the incident with Richard was "sorta" inappropriate.
Say, Jeff, what would you like them to carve on your tombstone?
Jeff: "Anybody have any... comments?"
Sue: "I was sexually violated!"
Jeff: "Well..."
Sue: "To have a guy pass a half a dozen people on a platform, to never have
touched them..." Again, you were on an alternate route, backtracked, and
forced the confrontation. Why do you keep leaving that out, Sue?
Jeff: "But..."
Sue: "He went too far. He crossed the line, and he crossed the line with
me!" So, all those insults you hurled at him are ok? Verbal assaults are
fine with you? Look, I'm not trying to excuse what he did, but you two have
been going at it for some time now. And I'm not even sure who started it,
because it obviously predates "All-Stars". But you could have stopped it at
any time, and chose not to.
Jeff: "Sue, I, I'm..." You gotta feel sorry for Jeff here. It wasn't his
fault. Sue didn't start screaming "sexual harrassment" during the challenge.
What's the statute of limitations on sexual harrassment lawsuits, anyway?
And can she even file, given that it took place outside the U.S.?
Oh lord, I hope Gloria Allred isn't watching this.
Sue: "I was violated, humiliated, dehumanized, and totally spent, Jeff! It
wasn't 'sorta', Jeff! 'Cause his back was to you, Jeff! 'Cause I'm spent an'
I'm fuggin' done with this game! There's no way I can continue with my
emotions pushed into the ground that much!" See guys, this is what happens
when you remove a woman from her emotional support group. She becomes a
volcano. (Oh, I'm sure I have my own private room in Hell for that one...)
Jeff: "So... when you say you're done with the game, as in, you want out of
the game?"
Rob: "If she goes, we can have her rice, right?"
Sue: "I'm done. I'm walking away."
Amber: "Dibs on the rice!"
Shii Ann: "Sue, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." This from the woman
who wanted Richard to _stay_. Gee, if Shii Ann had her way, we might have
ended up with a real fistfight on the show. Mano a mano. (Sorry, sorry...)
Chapped Hair gives Sue a great big ol' hug before she leaves. (Oh yeah,
_now_ they give her some emotional support...buncha vipers...)
Bye, Sue.
Jeff gives everyone an option: play the challenge out, or forego it and
split the reward.
Lone Dissenting Voice Jenna: "Hey, maybe we could sit down and share the
food and fix any animosities between the two tribes." Liberal! Socialist!
Unpatriotic! European! U.N. lover! Peacenik freakin' treehugger!!Kill Kill
Kill!!!
Ok, just for the record, had they decided to share, each tribe would have
received a basket full of oranges, a tin of beef, pineapples, mixed nuts,
coffee beans, and sugar. Plus half of the shish kabob spears. I'm only
pointing this out so we all see just what a bunch of starving dumbasses
Chapped Hair is about to become.
Note: the closed captioning on my tv wrote out "shish kabob" as "chish can a
bee bob". Maybe someone outsourced the captioning to India? (Yeah, like they
don't have shish kabob in India, you dumbass...)
The challenge is fun, but not much else. At least no one got whacked in the
head by a board. Magoos, feast. Chapped Hairs, dumbass.
Ethan, on the meat (lol): "It was goood! I wanted to rub my face in it. I
wanted to sleep next to it." What, and this scene didn't come with an
advisory warning? Ethan, you perv.
Kathy, on Sue: "I was really offended, that she would bring us that far into
her core of hatred. Didn't like it. I don't know it it's mean-spirited, but
that's how I feel." Well, at least Kathy didn't call her a cancer.
Chapped Hair tries to regroup and move on.
Alicia: "Let's all make a pact to stick together." Yeah, and we'll all sing
Kumbyaa as we dance in a circle, knives aimed at each others' backs.
Day 18. The game is halfway done. Sorta.
Mistress of Compassion Amber: "It maans a lot to lose a member of our tribe,
especially the way that we had to lose Sue." 'Had'? "But... you can never
count out Chapera for making a sad moment into a happy moment. We're the
Happy Tribe. And somehow we always find a way to laugh about it." Gee, yer
all heart now that she's gone.
Hey, Sue
Don't take it bad.
You were gonna
Get voted out anyway.
Remember,
You've got the whole thing on video.
And that'll hold up
In any court
Outside Texas.
Personally, I think that song is just a bit better than the "Ding Dong, The
Witch Is Gone" that Rob tries to sing. As Tom does his Dance of the Whiskey
Deliverance. Privately, Alicia calls Tom's insensitivity "pretty crummy." Oh
yeah, there's a big ol' wagging finger in Tom's future. Count on it. "Sue
was like a guy. She was hardcore." Hmmm, so maybe there was _another_ reason
why Richard rubbed up against her? :P
Rob: "My girls. My girls know how to make rice." Oooo, I hope Alicia heard
that. "You can keep the oysters and the snails. _This_ is what 'Survivor' is
all about."
Rice rice baby.
Hey, was that Amber Benson I just saw in the ad for this Sunday's episode of
"Cold Case"?
Next week: Kathy tells Shii Ann that Jerri is a bitch? Mrrrrroooww!! Wow,
Kathy, I'm glad those personality analysis lessons you took are finally
paying off. Lex reels in Shii Ann! And everyone gets a twisted Reward! (Gee,
could it have anything to do with the Immunity Idol Jeff is holding?)
Ok, in case you missed it, here's the relevant part of Sue and Richards'
interview on today's "Early Show":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/04/earlyshow/series/survivor/printable604082.shtml
On The Early Show, co-anchor Smith said that, as a viewer, the incident, to
him, "seemed like a momentary confrontation. Jeff said, 'Hey, there's no
place for that.' It happened in two seconds. You got back to the camp. And
what started going through your mind?"
Hawk responded, "That evening, when I had time to be by myself, I just kept
reliving the incident. It just kept eating into me more and more like a
cancer."
Does she still feel that way?
"It's been a long time since that. And me and Richard have had a chance to
sit down and hash it out and talk about the incident. And we both have
different perspectives on it," Hawk explained. "But we have come to terms
with it and agreed to move forward and past it.
"Of course," she added, "the viewing audience won't, because it was just,
like, last night."
Smith asked her if there was anything she wanted to say to Hatch.
"Just, you know, I can understand your feelings, that you like to be naked,
you're not uncomfortable with it," Hawk told Hatch. "But sometimes you need
to take in other people's perspectives on what's going on with you."
Smith pointed out that Hawk was much calmer on Friday's Early Show than she
appeared on Thursday night's episode of "Survivor: All-Stars."
"That was in the moment, though," Hawk said. "That was, like, fresh off the
plate. That was when it was still hot…You know, I'm an adult. You have to
work through things like that in life. I mean, you can't shut them out at
the moment. But you grow from them. You learn from them."
Smith asked her if she was tired and hungry, and if perhaps physical
deprivation contributed to her emotional response. But Hawk said it did not.
"I wasn't thirsty or hungry," she explained. "We had a lot of food there… I
was in really good shape physically and mentally. I wasn't thinking about
home and I wasn't thinking about food. It was actually easier this time
around."
She told Smith, "Feeling Richard naked next to you is not a good feeling.
That's all… You know, I don't want to brush up against naked people."
As for Hatch, he said, "We have a perspective of Sue Hawk as, you know,
super tough… And I learned something: You know, she's a sensitive person.
And afterwards, it really, really, got to her. It just started to really,
really, get to her. It was emotional."
Hatch and Hawk knew each other; they had played "Survivor" together in its
first season, and Hatch had been naked all through the first show. He
wasnaked again, all through "Survivor: All-Stars." The difference, though,
said Hawk, is that "he kept his distance, always."
After the incident on the island, Hatch and Hawk did have a chance to talk.
And what did Hawk express to Hatch at the time?
"That I did not appreciate what I felt was an intentional move against me
with his private area that upset me so much, that it was uncalled for and it
bothered me."
And what did Hatch express to Hawk?
"I got to say to her that I didn't appreciate what, from my perspective, was
her kind of taunting me… From my perspective. I realize that she doesn't see
it that way… Sue and I have worked it out. You know, we see it from two
different perspectives. It's not about her apologizing to me or, from my
perspective, about my apologizing to her… I'm so sorry that she feels this
way. I'm so sorry that it's been so emotional for her. I do feel for her
very, very much."
Hawk said she has no intention of bringing lawsuits against Hatch, or
"Survivor" producer Mark Burnett, or CBS.
"I did consider, like, a lawsuit when it first occurred," she explained "and
I decided I needed not to do something on that move, because that's
emotionally draining also. And I decided to move forward, and CBS has been
real nice about helping to deal with the situation."
So, Smith concluded, the waters are not exactly tranquil, but there is some
peace?
"Yeah, you can drive a boat on it," replied Hawk.
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Mojo
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> plate. That was when it was still hot.You know, I'm an adult. You have to
> work through things like that in life. I mean, you can't shut them out at
> the moment. But you grow from them. You learn from them."
>
> Smith asked her if she was tired and hungry, and if perhaps physical
> deprivation contributed to her emotional response. But Hawk said it did
not.
>
> "I wasn't thirsty or hungry," she explained. "We had a lot of food there.
I
> was in really good shape physically and mentally. I wasn't thinking about
> home and I wasn't thinking about food. It was actually easier this time
> around."
>
> She told Smith, "Feeling Richard naked next to you is not a good feeling.
> That's all. You know, I don't want to brush up against naked people."
>
> As for Hatch, he said, "We have a perspective of Sue Hawk as, you know,
> super tough. And I learned something: You know, she's a sensitive person.
> And afterwards, it really, really, got to her. It just started to really,
> really, get to her. It was emotional."
>
> Hatch and Hawk knew each other; they had played "Survivor" together in its
> first season, and Hatch had been naked all through the first show. He
> wasnaked again, all through "Survivor: All-Stars." The difference, though,
> said Hawk, is that "he kept his distance, always."
>
> After the incident on the island, Hatch and Hawk did have a chance to
talk.
> And what did Hawk express to Hatch at the time?
>
> "That I did not appreciate what I felt was an intentional move against me
> with his private area that upset me so much, that it was uncalled for and
it
> bothered me."
>
> And what did Hatch express to Hawk?
>
> "I got to say to her that I didn't appreciate what, from my perspective,
was
> her kind of taunting me. From my perspective. I realize that she doesn't
see
> it that way. Sue and I have worked it out. You know, we see it from two
> different perspectives. It's not about her apologizing to me or, from my
> perspective, about my apologizing to her. I'm so sorry that she feels this
Thanks!
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> plate. That was when it was still hot.You know, I'm an adult. You have to
> work through things like that in life. I mean, you can't shut them out at
> the moment. But you grow from them. You learn from them."
>
> Smith asked her if she was tired and hungry, and if perhaps physical
> deprivation contributed to her emotional response. But Hawk said it did
not.
>
> "I wasn't thirsty or hungry," she explained. "We had a lot of food there.
I
> was in really good shape physically and mentally. I wasn't thinking about
> home and I wasn't thinking about food. It was actually easier this time
> around."
>
> She told Smith, "Feeling Richard naked next to you is not a good feeling.
> That's all. You know, I don't want to brush up against naked people."
>
> As for Hatch, he said, "We have a perspective of Sue Hawk as, you know,
> super tough. And I learned something: You know, she's a sensitive person.
> And afterwards, it really, really, got to her. It just started to really,
> really, get to her. It was emotional."
>
> Hatch and Hawk knew each other; they had played "Survivor" together in its
> first season, and Hatch had been naked all through the first show. He
> wasnaked again, all through "Survivor: All-Stars." The difference, though,
> said Hawk, is that "he kept his distance, always."
>
> After the incident on the island, Hatch and Hawk did have a chance to
talk.
> And what did Hawk express to Hatch at the time?
>
> "That I did not appreciate what I felt was an intentional move against me
> with his private area that upset me so much, that it was uncalled for and
it
> bothered me."
>
> And what did Hatch express to Hawk?
>
> "I got to say to her that I didn't appreciate what, from my perspective,
was
> her kind of taunting me. From my perspective. I realize that she doesn't
see
> it that way. Sue and I have worked it out. You know, we see it from two
> different perspectives. It's not about her apologizing to me or, from my
> perspective, about my apologizing to her. I'm so sorry that she feels this
Forget? moi?
I think your rant was better than the show. ;-)
Mojo wrote:
> "Survivors of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Osten"
> "Of Snakes and Stewed Rat"
> "Sue Gets Off, Goes Off, Goes Home"
> "Worst. Episode. Ever."
> "Hawk Gets Hatched"
>
> . . . .
> What's next?
They run out of booze, Big Tom gets delirium tremens ("the shakes") from
being deprived of booze too long, and he has to leave the game for
medical reasons.
> Sue, on her sleeping problems: "I kept laying there, waking up. Every time I
> woke up, I could really feel Richard, naked. Kept flashing through my
> head." Well hell, that'd drive me nuts too. I guess it's like Jenna Morasca
> said in the first episode: these people have issues. Personally, I think Sue
> never got past her "snakes and rats" speech from the "Survivor: Palu Tiga"
> finale. I also think she has feelings for Richard. Respect, admiration,
> maybe a lot deeper than that. And she doesn't want to admit them or deal
> with them because of who and what he is and she's a married heterosexual
> woman and it's just so...ick (for lack of a slimier description lol) to even
> think about it.
You don't have to assume any prior attraction on Sue's part for Richard.
An even simpler explanation is pure automatic sexual arousal--a natural
biological function. Richard may be a gay man, but he's still a
decent-looking *man*, whose age is not too dissimilar from Sue's.
And even a married woman can be aroused by a naked stranger.
Maybe Sue got a little--hot--when Richard rubbed himself on her and she
can't deal with her natural reaction. That would explain why she went
on and on about her being happily married.
-- Steven L.
Michael
I got "shish can a bob"
> Ethan, on the meat (lol): "It was goood! I wanted to rub my face in it. I
> wanted to sleep next to it." What, and this scene didn't come with an
> advisory warning? Ethan, you perv.
Just before that he said "we got several kabobs of filet mignon" and the CC
wrote it out as "if I lay mignon".
>"Survivors of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Osten"
I'm sure you've been asked and this is a stupid question but do you
do this sort of thing for a living? I have to say I like your rants
better than the show itself.
Geez, I wish I could do this for a living.
If anyone out there can figure out a way for me to do this for a living,
please let me know. :)
I find your commentaries to be bloated, too sarcastic, and mean
spirited. I wonder if you even like this show.
Well, I find Richard Hatch to be bloated, too sarcastic and mean
spirited - makes him interesting and entertaining.
If I didn't like the show: a, I wouldn't watch it; and b, I wouldn't stay up
half the night ranting about it.
If you don't enjoy my rants, then don't bother reading them. No one is
forcing you, ya know.
<snip>
> finale. I also think she has feelings for Richard. Respect, admiration,
> maybe a lot deeper than that. And she doesn't want to admit them or deal
> with them because of who and what he is and she's a married heterosexual
> woman and it's just so...ick (for lack of a slimier description lol) to
> even
> think about it. I think that's why we've seen all that teasing banter
> between them this season. It's elementary school time, and Sue's been
> teasing and taunting Playground King Richard because she can't tell him
> how
> she really feels. And he'd been teasing and taunting right back because
> he's
> a fuckin' asshole who was using a losing strategy.
Funny, as a woman, that was my EXACT first thoughts about her reaction and
her strange thoughts about her husband's perspective. Made no sense unless
there was more to it in her head...
Peace,
Pen
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Another rant that was better than the actual show.
>Ethan, on the meat (lol): "It was goood! I wanted to rub my face in it. I
>wanted to sleep next to it." What, and this scene didn't come with an
>advisory warning? Ethan, you perv.
That was my favorite scene. :) There's just something about Ethan.
Maybe you could get them to pay you not to do it?
You're better than some of the people who write summaries for well-known
websites. Maybe there's a website somewhere ...
>Funny, as a woman, that was my EXACT first thoughts about her reaction and
>her strange thoughts about her husband's perspective. Made no sense unless
>there was more to it in her head...
As one of my employees (another real fan of the show) said at work if
some one tried that with her her hubby might well go seriously postal.
And knowing what we know of Sue's husband it is not impossible that
Hatch might have acquired a stalker of his own.
And I mean in a 'Play Misty for Me' sense - not at all funny ha ha.
>And knowing what we know of Sue's husband
What do we know about Sue's husband?
Tin@
'Evil triumphs when the good people remain silent'
Save a life, give blood
1-800-GIVE LIFE
Not much although judging by a picture of him, if Sue were to leave
him and move in with Richard -- even if Rich hadn't had any change in
his orientation -- she'd be trading up. Of course photos tell us
absolutely nothing about personality or anything else.
--
Brent McKee
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