Why didn't they eat the rooster first?
Mike & Amber Meulenbelt
alive serve? He can't lay any eggs...
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Amber
Jerry
"Mike & Amber Meulenbelt" <luv...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Teddi Litman
He induces the hens to lay eggs. The reason there were no eggs at all on
previous Survivors was because there were no roosters.
Teddi
rmgin
>chickens lay more eggs with a rooster around
that tidbit is not from any "chicken" experts that have been posting.
General consensus - a rooster has limited effect on a hen laying eggs.
The biggest effect having a clean safe environment so the chicken
feels secure. Other big effect is the quality of the feed....
Bret W.
Matt Miller
says...
>chickens lay more eggs with a rooster around
No they don't. In fact an over aggressive rooster can stress out
the hens enough that they'll stop laying. And you're probably not going
to enough eggs to feed five people anyway. The only practical reason to
keep them alive is to keep the meat fresh. Of course if you get attached
them it might be a different story.
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-Matt Miller
Stay strong
Stay free
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sl1
>Mike & Amber Meulenbelt wrote:
>
>> Before waiting to see if eggs would be laid? What purpose does keeping him
>> alive serve? He can't lay any eggs...
>He induces the hens to lay eggs. The reason there were no eggs at all on
>previous Survivors was because there were no roosters.
Only in S1 did they not include a rooster.
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor2/show/episode04/story2.html
bunny
him
> > alive serve? He can't lay any eggs...
> He induces the hens to lay eggs. The reason there were no eggs at all on
> previous Survivors was because there were no roosters.
That's not really true. In fact, a rooster can *inhibit* hens from laying
if the rooster runs around causing a lot of upset among the hens. Hens that
are happy will lay copiously without a rooster, and introducing a rooster
into the mix will often cause production to lessen.
I learned this from people who kept chickens before me, and it was also my
own experience. I have purchased only hens (I live in the city; a rooster
wouldn't be a good idea in an urban neighbourhood), but the sellers can't
always be sure with young chickens, and one of our "hens" turned out to be a
rooster. When Rhodie hit puberty and started crowing and mounting hens,
they were pretty unhappy about it and egg production slacked off. They
started laying well again when we separated Rhodie from the flock.
I'd think they'd eat the rooster just to keep it from crowing all day and
attracting predators that way!
McDLT
they just useless?
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KevinPhill
to mate to produce eggs. They should have killed the roster first, unless they
want baby chicks. And it would be 20 weeks before the new chicks could produce
eggs.
Tyler
Does no one here understand the idea that chickens require the presence of a
male just long enough to become 'broody' and start laying eggs? Sometimes, fake
eggs are even used in the nests to get them jump-started...
Still, I think they should have just killed them anyway, before a lion does.
Tyler
Rue
"McDLT" <mi...@NO-SPAM-MAAMyourmom.com> wrote in message
> So what does the rooster do then? Fertilize the eggs or something? Or are
> they just useless?
Oh boy...you know as a female this is hard...but I'm not gonna touch that
one with a 10 foot pole...tempting...but...
scott
"bunny" <bunn...@home.com> wrote:
> That's not really true. In fact, a rooster can *inhibit* hens from laying
> if the rooster runs around causing a lot of upset among the hens. Hens that
> are happy will lay copiously without a rooster, and introducing a rooster
> into the mix will often cause production to lessen.
Yes, hens are very much creatures of habit and routine. When they are
comfortable and secure, they lay. Anything that disrupts the routine,
like ... let's say being put into a box and hauled out into the African
plains ... disrupts egg laying.
Hens also prefer a little privacy when laying, even if it's just a dark
corner of the cage. Frank very much did the right thing in giving them a
little more space and some ground to scratch in. Happy hens = eggs.
Roosters are not needed in the slightest, unless you want fertilized
eggs you intend to hatch. We have about 50 chickens, but do keep a few
roosters around. It's fun to listen to them crow. They do sort of keep
the hens on schedule getting in and out of the coop, and are very good
at keeping an eye out for predators and sounding the alert!
Scott
scott
> I'd think they'd eat the rooster just to keep it from crowing all day and
> attracting predators that way!
One of the funnier moments of S2 was seeing a bleary-eyed Elisabeth
being woken by the rooster crowing and muttering ... "That one goes
first."
Scott
Mike & Amber Meulenbelt
day and all night, only taking breaks once a day to eat, drink, and
defecate.
And NO, you don't need a rooster to lay eggs. You need a rooster if you
want the eggs to be fertilized.
http://www.backyardchickens.com/FAQ.html#roosters
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Amber
"Tyler" wrote in message
Mike D
>Roosters are not needed in the slightest, unless you want fertilized
>eggs you intend to hatch.
Wow, the hen can still lay an unfertilized egg. I never knew.
I guess that white stringy thing you see in all eggs is not the roosters
load. Whew, that's good to know.
Mike
rmgin
<mi...@NO-SPAM-MAAMyourmom.com> wrote:
>So what does the rooster do then? Fertilize the eggs or something? Or are
>they just useless?
About as useless as the male lion. The female lion is the one who
does most of the hunting and caring for the young. But the male gets
to strut around and look imposing so that other males don't get any
ideas. There is a reason why there is only one rooster for those
three hens....
rmgin
According to Alicia the 3 hens were laying an average of 2 eggs per
day in Australia.....
Mike D
>That's not really true. In fact, a rooster can *inhibit* hens from laying
I'm so out of the loop. You mean the roosters don't mate with the hens?
I'm totally confused as to how hens can just make eggs on their own.
Mike
Mike D
>On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:54:57 GMT, "McDLT"
><mi...@NO-SPAM-MAAMyourmom.com> wrote:
>
>>So what does the rooster do then? Fertilize the eggs or something? Or are
>>they just useless?
>
>About as useless as the male lion.
Useless? Who protects the pride from hyennas, the lions biggest threat?
> The female lion is the one who
>does most of the hunting and caring for the young. But the male gets
>to strut around and look imposing so that other males don't get any
>ideas.
The males are twice the size of females. They can't run 3 miles to chase
down a kill. The males have to fight off other males, sometimes to the
death. Yeah, they're so silly.
Mike
Rue
"rmgin" <roarme...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> The female lion is the one who does most of the hunting and caring for the
young. But the male gets to strut around and look imposing so that other
males don't get any
ideas.
<biting tongue really hard>
; )
Razzle Bathbone
>chickens lay more eggs with a rooster around
Sorry, but that is a myth. I grew up on a farm in Ohio during the
30's, 40's and 50's, and we had hens without roosters. The reason
being is that we sold eggs to the public and didn't want any
fertilized ones. Sometimes there is blood in a fertilized egg and
people won't come back to buy more eggs.
The way you get more eggs is to cull the non-layers out and only keep
the ones you know will be layers. Culling is performed by seeing if
you can lay 3 fingers on the vent between the 2 hip bones. Less then
3 fingers, the chicken is for eating.
Razzle-------hopes this helps
Maureen Goldman
>Does no one here understand the idea that chickens require the presence of a
>male just long enough to become 'broody' and start laying eggs? Sometimes, fake
>eggs are even used in the nests to get them jump-started...
These were experienced chickens described as "egg-laying hens". Been
around the block already, they had.
Bret W.
- Bret -
"Rev. Tim" wrote:
> "Bret W." <bretw...@mindspring.com> posted:
>
> > Thank you, Marlin Perkins! ;-)
>
> Just as a survivor contestant can't predict who'll win the next
> IC, you never know when you'll need insurance from Mutual of
> Omaha.
>
> --
> "It was just inebriating what Midland was all about then."
> --GW Bush
Mike D
>Sorry, but that is a myth. I grew up on a farm in Ohio during the
>30's, 40's and 50's, and we had hens without roosters. The reason
>being is that we sold eggs to the public and didn't want any
>fertilized ones. Sometimes there is blood in a fertilized egg and
>people won't come back to buy more eggs.
My dear old Great Grandmother had a chicken coop. As a kid we ran around
the farm oblivious to what it all meant. Now I wish I had taken more of an
interest in what they did, the way they lived.
One thing I do remember is Granny talking about keeping the snakes out. I
remember her telling us a story about finding a snake in the coop. It had
a big old lump in its throat. She cut his head off then squeezed out a
perfectly good egg. That just floored us kids. I hope it was BS.
Mike
KevinPhill
>I'm totally confused as to how hens can just make eggs on their own.
Female Humans produce eggs all the time its the same thing.
KevinPhill
>Does no one here understand the idea that chickens require the presence of a
>male just long enough to become 'broody' and start laying eggs?
They don't need a roster to lay any eggs.
diddy
factory farming, hens sit in little boxes and never see a rooster. As
they lay the egg, it rolls out of the box and down a track to be
packaged.
On the farm, where they tend to be laid anywhere the hen feels like it,
and you aren't sure exactly the interim between the time she laid the
egg and the time you found it, you ALWAYS candle the eggs (hold them up
to a light and insure there isn't a fertile egg in the lot. (If there is
a chicken or embryo.. the rooster got there first, and if it's visible,
it isn't a fresh egg anyway. You set those back to raise the next
generation of chickens.
It takes 21 days from egg being laid to hatching. Having a rooster is
absolutely silly, unless you like waking up Africa at daybreak with a
cockle doodle DOO!
They don't have time to fertilize, hatch and raise MORE chickens. If
Survivor lasted 6 months, having a rooster may be of some value.
IMHO the rooster would be dinner that night. Lets just hope he's a
Cornish Rock cross and not a stringy old Leghorn, or worse yet a Banty
Rooster.
LV Guy
"Teddi Litman" <dayb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Mike & Amber Meulenbelt wrote:
>
> > Before waiting to see if eggs would be laid? What purpose does keeping
him
> > alive serve? He can't lay any eggs...
> >
> > --
> > Amber
>
> He induces the hens to lay eggs. The reason there were no eggs at all on
> previous Survivors was because there were no roosters.
>
>
The chickens laid eggs in S2. Kimmi ate them. Rodger at one point suggested
they
separate the chickens so they could find out which one of them was laying
eggs
and eat the others, but Kimmi rather loudly objected saying "No, they'll be
lonely!"
His suggestion was for her benefit seeing as she was the one eating the
eggs, but
the others just basically said fuck it and started eating the chickens one
by one.
Puzzla
here I thought he had it going on.
Puzz
"diddy" <di...@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message
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Razzle Bathbone
No it's not BS. A Black snake or a Bull snake can and will take an
egg. It has to be a mature snake tho. I have seen them do it. Their
mouth will stretch around the egg and most of the time the egg will
crush from the snakes muscular contractions.
Razzle-------
Barb
They do if Frank is the boss. Frank like things organized.>>
#1 posting of the day. Oh my gosh, too funny!!!!!!
Barb- Camper and nature lover!
Lots of furry pets