OT: Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber To Fly Aboard Space Shuttle
Ron
CAPE CANAVERAL - May the force be with shuttle Discovery and seven
astronauts on an October mission to the International Space Station.
Coming from a galaxy far, far away, the lightsaber wielded by Luke
Skywalker in Star Wars will fly aboard the orbiter three decades after
the classic movie opened.
"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
The lightsaber will be on display at the visitor complex at NASA's
Johnson Space Center in Houston through Labor Day. Then it will be
shipped to Kennedy Space Center and packed into Discovery's mid-deck.
NASA spokesman James Hartsfield said the sci-fi sword would remain
stowed throughout the shuttle's 13-day mission.
Anybody
<BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
Even as a big Star Wars fan I find this a complete waste of time. NASA
should be finding a way to make shuttles safer, not mucking about with
idiocies like this. :-\
Ron
> In article <1188418338.836892.266...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Ron
Agreed.
Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
the wing(s).
They are just biding their time until 2010 when they retire it.
Hopefully nothing will happen between now and then!
C.O.Jones
<any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
It's called good publicity, something else NASA needs.
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Kweeg
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Indeed.
"Anybody" has a hard time with most things (Hollywood making money, the new
BSG, the new Trek movie, to name a few) so he just dismisses them as "silly
:-\"
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Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
1,079,252,848.8 km/h, not just a good idea, it's the law.
"So say we all!"
David B
Especially after that crazy bitch wearing dispers on a multistate run to kill
or at least harm her romantic rival debacle.
80 Knight
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NASA is chucking the plastic toy into a drawer on the Shuttle. Why get so
bothered?
Citizen Bob Actual
>Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
>the wing(s).
That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
and it cost people their lives.
Man needs to go back to living in caves until he evolves sufficient
intelligence to live in the modern world.
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"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
--Benjamin Franklin
Merrick Baldelli
>"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
>original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
>spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
What better way to spend my tax dollars, I wonder? Oh yeah, I
know. How 'bout a cure for Cancer or AIDS...
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Atlas Bugged
> news:300820070845309685%any...@anywhere-anytime.com...
>> should be finding a way to make shuttles safer, not mucking about with
>> idiocies like this. :-\
"80 Knight" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> NASA is chucking the plastic toy into a drawer on the Shuttle. Why get so
> bothered?
Cost of getting stuff up out of the gravity-well is mind-boggling. Bob, you
want to explain the cost-per-pound of such folly?
Citizen Bob Actual
<atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Cost of getting stuff up out of the gravity-well is mind-boggling. Bob, you
>want to explain the cost-per-pound of such folly?
It all depends on how much you value our culture.
Although I have no evidence to support this claim, it is my belief
that the major nuclear powers on Earth have all planted small nuclear
weapons in hidden locations in the major cities of all the other
nuclear powers. These devices can be planted in such a way to be
undetectable yet can respond to commands from signals generated on
satellites.
The first atomic weapon used on Japan had a yield of anywhere from
12-20 kilotons, with the latter figure considered the likely value.
That's the equivalent of 1,000 semi tractor trailers filled to the
maximum legal load of 20 tons of TNT. Imagine what would happen to
downtown Houston if there was one such truck on every street corner of
a square grid 33 blocks on a side. Raise the truck one block's length
in height (1/8 mile typically or 660 feet - 6 storeys high) and
detonate all of them. There would not be much left standing for a
square area 4 miles on a side.
The Space Station is out there for two main reasons: 1) To protect our
satellites so we can signal our nukes in the major cities; 2) To
destroy those satellites deployed to signal the nukes in our cities.
Before you go off and declare me a nut case for proposing this
scenario, consider the fact that if man is capable of implementing
weapons' technology, he will implement it. I learned that working at a
nuclear weapons factory. Some of the things they were working on would
blow your mind. They were the ones who implemented what later came to
be known as the Strategic Defense Initiative. The things they were
working on were sufficient to cause the Russians to collapse the
Soviet Empire.
There is nothing to prevent planting small nuclear devices in major
cities, even in closed societies. Despite what the layman is
brainwashed into thinking, a fission device is relatively simple to
construct if you have fissionable materials. Once constructed it's all
a matter of how much you want to spend bribing the right people and
killing the ones who won't be bribed.
C.O.Jones
Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:18 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
> >original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
> >spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
>
> What better way to spend my tax dollars, I wonder? Oh yeah, I
> know. How 'bout a cure for Cancer or AIDS...
I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
numbers on the dollars.
lurkinghorror
<kw...@nospam.shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > Even as a big Star Wars fan I find this a complete waste of time. NASA
> > > should be finding a way to make shuttles safer, not mucking about with
> > > idiocies like this. :-\
> >
> > It's called good publicity, something else NASA needs.
>
> Indeed.
> "Anybody" has a hard time with most things (Hollywood making money, the new
> BSG, the new Trek movie, to name a few) so he just dismisses them as "silly
> :-\"
> --
Oh, just another grumpy old whiny Negative Nelly. The internet just
does not have enough of them!
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Anim8rFSK
"C.O.Jones" <ap...@solidbrass.com> wrote:
> In article <o6hcd3p0jeiqtfrkq...@4ax.com>, Merrick
> Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:18 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
> > >original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
> > >spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
> >
> > What better way to spend my tax dollars, I wonder? Oh yeah, I
> > know. How 'bout a cure for Cancer or AIDS...
>
> I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
> dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
> went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
> numbers on the dollars.
It was MOSTLY your tax dollars. I checked the box on my 1046es to chip
in to upgrade it from coach.
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For every Flash Gordon, there is an Earthstorm!!
Anybody
> In article <o6hcd3p0jeiqtfrkq...@4ax.com>, Merrick
> Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:18 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
> > >original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
> > >spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
> >
> > What better way to spend my tax dollars, I wonder? Oh yeah, I
> > know. How 'bout a cure for Cancer or AIDS...
>
> I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
> dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
> went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
> numbers on the dollars.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that there IS a whole
department specifically set up to check all serial numbers and back
trace them. :-\
Anim8rFSK
Anybody <any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
This would credit IRS with WAY more smarts than they've got going for
them. (I say this since they just lost my tax return AGAIN and even
though I can prove they got it -- my accountant filed electronically and
has the receipt -- they don't CARE; I have to refile, and it has to be
hard copy this time.)
Joseph Nebus
>On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:55:03 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>>Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
>>the wing(s).
>That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
>tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
>approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
>and it cost people their lives.
By ``working quite well'' he means ``shedding foam pretty
much every time they looked to see if foam were shedding'', but hey,
what's important is environmental concerns lead to something changing
and therefore EVERYTHING BAD THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN IS BECAUSE OF
THOSE EEEEEEEVIL POLITICALLY CORRECT ECO-FREAKS!
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Joseph Nebus
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redhawk
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:57:53 GMT, "Atlas Bugged"
>
> >Cost of getting stuff up out of the gravity-well is mind-boggling. Bob, you
> >want to explain the cost-per-pound of such folly?
>
> It all depends on how much you value our culture.
>
> Although I have no evidence to support this claim, it is my belief
> that the major nuclear powers on Earth have all planted small nuclear
> weapons in hidden locations in the major cities of all the other
> nuclear powers. These devices can be planted in such a way to be
> undetectable yet can respond to commands from signals generated on
Would satellites be necessary to transmit a detonation signal? ISTM
such a system could use something terrestial, perhaps like the
"Project ELF" antennae array, which can send nuclear weapon launch
signals to missile-carrying submarines anywhere in the world's oceans.
http://www.nukewatch.com/projectelf/elfpg.html
Anim8rFSK
nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:
> sp...@uce.gov (Citizen Bob Actual) writes:
>
> >On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:55:03 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
> >>the wing(s).
>
> >That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
> >tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
> >approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
> >and it cost people their lives.
>
> By ``working quite well'' he means ``shedding foam pretty
> much every time they looked to see if foam were shedding'', but hey,
> what's important is environmental concerns lead to something changing
> and therefore EVERYTHING BAD THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN IS BECAUSE OF
> THOSE EEEEEEEVIL POLITICALLY CORRECT ECO-FREAKS!
In this case, he's right.
Citizen Bob Actual
>EVERYTHING BAD THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN IS BECAUSE OF
>THOSE EEEEEEEVIL POLITICALLY CORRECT ECO-FREAKS!
Damn Straight!
Anybody
<ANIM8Rfsk-2C1EE...@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
I sent in my tax return (hard copy) a little while back and when I got
the assessment letter back it said I was meant to pay about five times
more than I had calculated. I phoned them up and after a shortish wait
the lady on the other end came back and said they had a typo when
entering my taxable income and had inserted an extra digit. At least it
was easily fixed. :-)
80 Knight
news:RVABi.267$Xg.82@trnddc06...
It's plastic, and a toy. Now, I don't like Star Wars at all, and of course
there are much better things to spend money on, but come on. It's not going
to add that much to the bill.
Anim8rFSK
Anybody <any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
LOL, that would be nice.
This all started because they claimed they'd recalculated my 2004 taxes
and I had a small refund coming, but that they couldn't give it to me
because they claimed I'd never filed my 2004 taxes. My accountant said
that was silly and I must have misunderstood, but after banging his head
against the phone for quite awhile, he agreed that that is indeed what
they're claiming.
It's costing me more than the stupid refund too.
Joseph Nebus
You have a looser definition of ``right'' than I have. For
example, I exclude from ``right'' cases of factual error. The foam
which caused the destruction of Columbia was from an area using the
old, CFC-based foam. That is, the old foam. That is to say, any
changes in the foam composition cannot have caused the strike which
killed seven astronauts because it *did* *not*.
And, again, per the Columbia Accident Investigation Board,
more than half of all shuttle flights have shown foam shedding. But
it wasn't looked for on every flight. Of the flights for which it
was sought out, starting with the very first launch of Columbia in
1981, foam shedding was observed four-fifths of the time. That's
with the old formulation, that's with the new formulation.
It's like finding some insulating material which sticks to a
metal tank coming precariously close to the temperature of liquid
hydrogen while also staying in ambient Floridian heat and humidity and
*then* being knocked about by hypersonic wind streams is difficult or
something.
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Joseph Nebus
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szr
Sorry to nitpick, but if it's the light sabre Luke used in A New Hope,
then wouldn't it be Anakin's lightsaber (as Obi Wan described to Luke
when he handed it over) ? I mention this because every new heading I see
about this always says "Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber"... I can understand
why thye say it like that, just though I would throw that in for the
sake of correctness :)
I think it's great. Nice 30th anniversary thing there.
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szr
szr
Well they could always do both. I mean for the longest times NASA has
been about have certain people assigned to a particular job/task, right?
I mean they haven't been perfect throughout history (i.e., Apollo 1,
Challenger, Columbia) but they've been quite successful in the grand
scheme of things imho. Yes they should to making them safer, and I think
that's exactly what they are doing.
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szr
Anybody
<ANIM8Rfsk-60DBA...@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
The joys of using an accountant. ;-)
That's why I do my tax returns myself ... and my brother is an
accountant.
Anonymous quote: If a job is worth doing, get someone else to do it
... if a job is worth doing RIGHT, do it yourself.
szr
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:55:03 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
>> the wing(s).
>
> That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
> tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
> approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
> and it cost people their lives.
I couldn't agree more. To use the Waterboy, "political correctness is
the devil!"
> Man needs to go back to living in caves until he evolves sufficient
> intelligence to live in the modern world.
I think Geico has the best of both worlds in that department :)
--
szr
szr
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> safer, and I think that's exactly what they are doing.
I meant to write, "should be making them safer,"
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szr
David Johnston
wrote:
>Citizen Bob Actual wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:55:03 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
>>> the wing(s).
>>
>> That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
>> tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
>> approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
>> and it cost people their lives.
>
>I couldn't agree more.
The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
environmental hazard.
Ron
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:20:19 -0700, "szr" <sz...@szromanMO.comVE>
> wrote:
>
> >Citizen Bob Actual wrote:
>
> >>> Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
> >>> the wing(s).
>
> >> That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
> >> tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
> >> approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
> >> and it cost people their lives.
>
> >I couldn't agree more.
>
> The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
> Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
> environmental hazard.
Well, I've never heard anything about the type of adhesive they were
using being changed, but no matter what kind of adhesive they are
using, that's not gonna stop a frozen piece of foam from penetrating
the very fragile tiles.
peachy ashie passion
Aside from that, they say that the thing is going for a ride on the
shuttle. Just how much improved safety do you think they could come up
with in the time it takes them to pack a light saber on the shuttle?
Not to mention that the guy that packs the shuttle probably isn't the
guy in charge of improving safety - except for the safety from loose
objects.
Stephen Fairchild
> Sorry to nitpick, but if it's the light sabre Luke used in A New Hope,
> then wouldn't it be Anakin's lightsaber (as Obi Wan described to Luke
> when he handed it over) ? I mention this because every new heading I see
> about this always says "Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber"... I can understand
> why thye say it like that, just though I would throw that in for the
> sake of correctness :)
Luke lost his father's light saber when he was dishanded by Darth Vader in
Empire. Luke personally built the one he used in ROTJ, narratively
speaking, which is the same prop that'll be blasted into 'the outer space'.
--
Stephen Fairchild
Stephen Fairchild
> The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
> Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
> environmental hazard.
It's the entire NASA infrastructure which supports the shuttle taken as a
whole, not just the space vehicle itself contributing to environmental
degradation. Think of it being like making a lightweight bicycle for
racing. I can make a bicycle with one standard weight part and it won't
make much difference but the whole vehicle made from light parts is
significantly lighter than the cheaper alternative made from standard ones.
To achieve low environmental impact in a large enterprise like NASA there
need to be few stones left unturned in looking for the cleanest way of
doing things leading to the inevitable environmental audits.
I suspect there is no glue on the tank and the foam is some kind of spray on
chemical that foams up on impact like the expanding cavity sealant you can
buy at the DIY store. I can easily imagine PR people at NASA using the
excuse that environmentalists tied their hands over some kind of glue in
order to deflect blame which then gets e-mailed by disgusted Americans
because they like to rant about that sort of thing when what NASA could
have done was glue proper heat shield tiles onto the tank but that would
push the launch costs up due to the tank being the only part of the launch
vehicle which isn't reused. I think they went with tiles for the original
launch (the fuel tank was white and looked pretty) but switched to the
quick spray on foam as a cost saving exercise in the subsequent launches.
--
Stephen Fairchild
Tim McGaughy
They never used heat shield tiles. The first couple of tanks were
covered with cork, then they switched to the foam. The early tanks were
white because they Painted Them White. After they decided it was silly
to weigh them down with thousands of gallons of paint, the tanks took
their now characteristic unpainted orange color.
Anim8rFSK
Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
I remember when they changed it. I think the supplier stopped making
the orignal stuff. NASA *should* have gotten some kind of waiver and
stocked up, but they buckled.
Anybody
<ANIM8Rfsk-727D9...@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
Surely they could mix some flour and some water themselves. ;-)
Stephen Fairchild
> They never used heat shield tiles. The first couple of tanks were
> covered with cork, then they switched to the foam. The early tanks were
> white because they Painted Them White. After they decided it was silly
> to weigh them down with thousands of gallons of paint, the tanks took
> their now characteristic unpainted orange color.
Granted, painting the foam would have appeared an exercise in stupidity but
it has occurred to me that with the right paint it may in fact produce the
required stabilising effect. I can't imagine NASA resorting to wrap the
tank in chicken wire (too much joke potential) but I am willing to bet at
least one NASA engineer suggested it.
--
Stephen Fairchild
Citizen Bob Actual
>> The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
>> Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
>> environmental hazard.
>Well, I've never heard anything about the type of adhesive they were
>using being changed, but no matter what kind of adhesive they are
>using, that's not gonna stop a frozen piece of foam from penetrating
>the very fragile tiles.
http://blogs.dfw.com/startle_grams/2006/07/in_houston_nasa.html
In Houston, NASA's rocket scientists report that bird droppings are on
the space shuttle's wing.
Yep. While checking to see if any of the heat-resistant tiles that
cover the spacecraft had fallen off during takeoff, the astronauts
found big blotches of bird droppings.
Now remember, our shuttle has tiles that fall off if you look at them
too hard. Yet bird poop survives the thrust, acceleration, vibrations
and the extreme temperatures and vagaries of space.
So do any of you see where I'm going here? Do you? No? It's so obvious
Why isn't NASA scrapping the tile adhesive and instead slathering the
tiles with bird poop? It may not look or smell pretty, but if it
works, I'd cover the whole thing with bird shit.
Forget high-tech. Sometimes the answer is right under your nose.
Citizen Bob Actual
Use bird crap. It's already been tested.
http://blogs.dfw.com/startle_grams/2006/07/in_houston_nasa.html
whodunit
>> Man needs to go back to living in caves until he evolves sufficient
>> intelligence to live in the modern world.
>
> I think Geico has the best of both worlds in that department :)
>
Check this out for giggles: http://cavemanscrib.com/
Ron
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:33:16 -0700, Ron <BigELil...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
> >> Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
> >> environmental hazard.
> >Well, I've never heard anything about the type of adhesive they were
> >using being changed, but no matter what kind of adhesive they are
> >using, that's not gonna stop a frozen piece of foam from penetrating
> >the very fragile tiles.
>
> http://blogs.dfw.com/startle_grams/2006/07/in_houston_nasa.html
>
Do you have a link that says that the adhesive that holds the tiles on
was changed because of environmentalist?
I've looked and can't find it.
I've never heard of the tiles "falling off" during takeoff either, as
the link above states.
The only reason that they ever had a problem with the tiles (that I
know of) was because of the frozen "foam" hitting them, and either
knocking them off or damaging them. (Columbia)
And, after NASA reviewed the films, this seemed to have happened with
every Space Shuttle, but it finally caught up with them.
Citizen Bob Actual
>> >> The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
>> >> Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
>> >> environmental hazard.
>> >Well, I've never heard anything about the type of adhesive they were
>> >using being changed, but no matter what kind of adhesive they are
>> >using, that's not gonna stop a frozen piece of foam from penetrating
>> >the very fragile tiles.
>> http://blogs.dfw.com/startle_grams/2006/07/in_houston_nasa.html
>Bob,
>Do you have a link that says that the adhesive that holds the tiles on
>was changed because of environmentalist?
>I've looked and can't find it.
I looked for it too and did not find anything. I recall reading about
it in an article on the Internet.
Merrick Baldelli
<some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>Granted, painting the foam would have appeared an exercise in stupidity but
>it has occurred to me that with the right paint it may in fact produce the
>required stabilising effect. I can't imagine NASA resorting to wrap the
>tank in chicken wire (too much joke potential) but I am willing to bet at
>least one NASA engineer suggested it.
*blinks* Chicken Wire?
Christ, what kind of "man" are you?! It's duct tape, not
chicken wire.
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Merrick Baldelli
<any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that there IS a whole
>department specifically set up to check all serial numbers and back
>trace them. :-\
Christ, this reminds me of what Scully said to the Lone Gunmen
when they were trying to prove that people were being tracked by the
$20 dollar bills they are carrying.
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>In article <o6hcd3p0jeiqtfrkq...@4ax.com>, Merrick
>Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:18 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
>> >original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
>> >spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
>>
>> What better way to spend my tax dollars, I wonder? Oh yeah, I
>> know. How 'bout a cure for Cancer or AIDS...
>
>I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
>dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
>went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
>numbers on the dollars.
*(laughing)* This is almost as good as looking at Citizen
Bob's article a few back about the ISS and "protecting our
satellites".
GMAN
>
Possession is 9/10 of the law, so it is Luke's Lightsaber!
Tim McGaughy
What you read was that they changed the composition of the FOAM, not the
tile glue.
Citizen Bob Actual
<mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
>>dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
>>went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
>>numbers on the dollars.
> *(laughing)* This is almost as good as looking at Citizen
>Bob's article a few back about the ISS and "protecting our
>satellites".
Laugh, little fool, laugh.
You are too stupid to realize what is going on around you.
Citizen Bob Actual
wrote:
>> I looked for it too and did not find anything. I recall reading about
>> it in an article on the Internet.
>What you read was that they changed the composition of the FOAM, not the
>tile glue.
OK. Whatever was changed, it was deemed a primary cause of the
failure.
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:59:26 -0400, Merrick Baldelli
><mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
>>>dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
>>>went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
>>>numbers on the dollars.
>
>> *(laughing)* This is almost as good as looking at Citizen
>>Bob's article a few back about the ISS and "protecting our
>>satellites".
>
>Laugh, little fool, laugh.
>
>You are too stupid to realize what is going on around you.
Who's more foolish... The fool, or the fool with the tinfoil
beanie?
Alan F
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:54:23 -0500, Tim McGaughy <tee...@copper.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> I looked for it too and did not find anything. I recall reading about
>>> it in an article on the Internet.
>
>> What you read was that they changed the composition of the FOAM, not the
>> tile glue.
>
> OK. Whatever was changed, it was deemed a primary cause of the
> failure.
No, it was not. Read the Columbia Accident Investigation Board report.
It should be on the net. Read the source, not false myths passed around
the net as it they were true.
Alan F
Citizen Bob Actual
wrote:
> No, it was not. Read the Columbia Accident Investigation Board report.
>It should be on the net. Read the source, not false myths passed around
>the net as it they were true.
Is it like the Warren Commission Report on JFK's assassination? Does
it claim magical effects too?
Anim8rFSK
Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:58:12 +1200, Anybody
> <any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>
> >It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that there IS a whole
> >department specifically set up to check all serial numbers and back
> >trace them. :-\
>
> Christ, this reminds me of what Scully said to the Lone Gunmen
> when they were trying to prove that people were being tracked by the
> $20 dollar bills they are carrying.
"You're right"?
Anim8rFSK
Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:52:49 +0100, Stephen Fairchild
> <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
> >Granted, painting the foam would have appeared an exercise in stupidity but
> >it has occurred to me that with the right paint it may in fact produce the
> >required stabilising effect. I can't imagine NASA resorting to wrap the
> >tank in chicken wire (too much joke potential) but I am willing to bet at
> >least one NASA engineer suggested it.
>
> *blinks* Chicken Wire?
>
> Christ, what kind of "man" are you?! It's duct tape, not
> chicken wire.
Why isn't it duck wire and chicken tape?
Anim8rFSK
Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:55:27 GMT, sp...@uce.gov (Citizen Bob Actual)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:59:26 -0400, Merrick Baldelli
> ><mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
> >>>dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
> >>>went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
> >>>numbers on the dollars.
> >
> >> *(laughing)* This is almost as good as looking at Citizen
> >>Bob's article a few back about the ISS and "protecting our
> >>satellites".
> >
> >Laugh, little fool, laugh.
> >
> >You are too stupid to realize what is going on around you.
>
> Who's more foolish... The fool, or the fool with the tinfoil
> beanie?
Depends. Is is shiny side in, or out?
And is it the new Heavy Duty, or the Release variety?
Or, God help us, the Reynolds Wrap "Dazzle" that looks like Jack Cassidy
should have been wearing it on He & She?
lurkinghorror
<ANIM8Rfsk-C2465...@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <dj2ld3hr00v8d2b0i...@4ax.com>,
> Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:52:49 +0100, Stephen Fairchild
> > <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Granted, painting the foam would have appeared an exercise in stupidity but
> > >it has occurred to me that with the right paint it may in fact produce the
> > >required stabilising effect. I can't imagine NASA resorting to wrap the
> > >tank in chicken wire (too much joke potential) but I am willing to bet at
> > >least one NASA engineer suggested it.
> >
> > *blinks* Chicken Wire?
> >
> > Christ, what kind of "man" are you?! It's duct tape, not
> > chicken wire.
>
> Why isn't it duck wire and chicken tape?
(I get the joke, but...) Chicken wire is a specific wire fencing
product originally used for fencing chickens. In other circumstances,
it could have very easily been Duck Wire. Of course, it is DUCT tape
for heating ducts and stuff. It's the "and stuff" where THAT gets fun.
Hillbilly Lurk
(who has some duct tape and WD40, but no chicken wire)
--
In times like these, it helps to recall that there have always been times like
these.
-- Paul Harvey
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>In article <mjikd319ur3aa3koq...@4ax.com>,
> Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:58:12 +1200, Anybody
>> <any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>>
>> >It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that there IS a whole
>> >department specifically set up to check all serial numbers and back
>> >trace them. :-\
>>
>> Christ, this reminds me of what Scully said to the Lone Gunmen
>> when they were trying to prove that people were being tracked by the
>> $20 dollar bills they are carrying.
>
>"You're right"?
Errr... No... Try again....
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
*blinks*
The mind boggles *so* much reading this, I am just about
struck almost speechless...
cyberborg 4000
(David B) wrote:
"C.O.Jones" wrote:
In article <300820070845309685%any...@anywhere-anytime.com>, Anybody
<any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
In article <1188418338.8...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Ron
<BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
Citizen Bob, I know this post will thrill you! :)
CAPE CANAVERAL - May the force be with shuttle Discovery and seven
astronauts on an October mission to the International Space Station.
Coming from a galaxy far, far away, the lightsaber wielded by Luke
Skywalker in Star Wars will fly aboard the orbiter three decades after
the classic movie opened.
"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
The lightsaber will be on display at the visitor complex at NASA's
Johnson Space Center in Houston through Labor Day. Then it will be
shipped to Kennedy Space Center and packed into Discovery's mid-deck.
NASA spokesman James Hartsfield said the sci-fi sword would remain
stowed throughout the shuttle's 13-day mission.
should be finding a way to make shuttles safer, not mucking about with
idiocies like this. :-\
It's called good publicity, something else NASA needs.
'' Especially after that crazy bitch wearing dispers on a multistate
run to kill or at least harm her romantic rival debacle. ''
I just bet that NASA along with the REST of the Astronauts are Soooo
Very Happy the Whole World Knows and is making Jokes about the fact that
they really do have to actually wear those damn things in the First
Place. I would have Loved to be at the first meeting they had when the
''Crazy Astronaut Bitch'' story made ALL the Papers and Wire Services
World Wide
The standing order is they have to carry an ''Extra'' roll of ''Duct
Tape''just to deal with some ''CRAZY'' who might Loose It while they
are up in the Space Shuttle or at the Space Station. YEAH - Wrap 'Em in
'Duct Tape' and Belt them in their Seat
It does Seem NASA Lowered the BAR for being an Astronaut Just a Little
Too Much
Sooooooo Much for Me Drinking ALL that TANG back in the Sixties now I am
just a Little bit Too Old to become an Astronaut
... cyberborg ..........
,,
Anim8rFSK
Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:42:09 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ujqnd3p756ukiuq27...@4ax.com>,
> > Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:55:27 GMT, sp...@uce.gov (Citizen Bob Actual)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Laugh, little fool, laugh.
> >> >
> >> >You are too stupid to realize what is going on around you.
> >>
> >> Who's more foolish... The fool, or the fool with the tinfoil
> >> beanie?
> >
> >Depends. Is is shiny side in, or out?
> >
> >And is it the new Heavy Duty, or the Release variety?
> >
> >Or, God help us, the Reynolds Wrap "Dazzle" that looks like Jack Cassidy
> >should have been wearing it on He & She?
>
> *blinks*
>
> The mind boggles *so* much reading this, I am just about
> struck almost speechless...
I'm totally serious. We have an old box of it in the pantry. I have no
idea why. I'm scared to put it on food.
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>In article <isjsd3lt6esv43son...@4ax.com>,
> Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:42:09 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ujqnd3p756ukiuq27...@4ax.com>,
>> > Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:55:27 GMT, sp...@uce.gov (Citizen Bob Actual)
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Laugh, little fool, laugh.
>> >> >
>> >> >You are too stupid to realize what is going on around you.
>> >>
>> >> Who's more foolish... The fool, or the fool with the tinfoil
>> >> beanie?
>> >
>> >Depends. Is is shiny side in, or out?
>> >
>> >And is it the new Heavy Duty, or the Release variety?
>> >
>> >Or, God help us, the Reynolds Wrap "Dazzle" that looks like Jack Cassidy
>> >should have been wearing it on He & She?
>>
>> *blinks*
>>
>> The mind boggles *so* much reading this, I am just about
>> struck almost speechless...
>
>I'm totally serious. We have an old box of it in the pantry. I have no
>idea why. I'm scared to put it on food.
And you continue to keep it... Why?
Anim8rFSK
Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
In case you visit!
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>> >> >Depends. Is is shiny side in, or out?
>> >> >
>> >> >And is it the new Heavy Duty, or the Release variety?
>> >> >
>> >> >Or, God help us, the Reynolds Wrap "Dazzle" that looks like Jack Cassidy
>> >> >should have been wearing it on He & She?
>> >>
>> >> *blinks*
>> >>
>> >> The mind boggles *so* much reading this, I am just about
>> >> struck almost speechless...
>> >
>> >I'm totally serious. We have an old box of it in the pantry. I have no
>> >idea why. I'm scared to put it on food.
>>
>> And you continue to keep it... Why?
>
>In case you visit!
You think this is like the queer equivalent to Vampires and
Garlic or something?
Anim8rFSK
Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:16:04 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Depends. Is is shiny side in, or out?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And is it the new Heavy Duty, or the Release variety?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Or, God help us, the Reynolds Wrap "Dazzle" that looks like Jack
> >> >> >Cassidy
> >> >> >should have been wearing it on He & She?
> >> >>
> >> >> *blinks*
> >> >>
> >> >> The mind boggles *so* much reading this, I am just about
> >> >> struck almost speechless...
> >> >
> >> >I'm totally serious. We have an old box of it in the pantry. I have no
> >> >idea why. I'm scared to put it on food.
> >>
> >> And you continue to keep it... Why?
> >
> >In case you visit!
>
> You think this is like the queer equivalent to Vampires and
> Garlic or something?
No, more like Vampires and fresh blood in the fridge.
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
*blinks* You think what? I'm some sort of Carsen Kressley
with Reynolds' Wrap or something?
peachy ashie passion
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:36:34 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <v7p1e3h64h6vgq15p...@4ax.com>,
>>Merrick Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:16:04 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>Depends. Is is shiny side in, or out?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And is it the new Heavy Duty, or the Release variety?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Or, God help us, the Reynolds Wrap "Dazzle" that looks like Jack
>>>>>>>>Cassidy
>>>>>>>>should have been wearing it on He & She?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *blinks*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mind boggles *so* much reading this, I am just about
>>>>>>>struck almost speechless...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm totally serious. We have an old box of it in the pantry. I have no
>>>>>>idea why. I'm scared to put it on food.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you continue to keep it... Why?
>>>>
>>>>In case you visit!
>>>
>>> You think this is like the queer equivalent to Vampires and
>>>Garlic or something?
>>
>>No, more like Vampires and fresh blood in the fridge.
>
>
> *blinks* You think what? I'm some sort of Carsen Kressley
> with Reynolds' Wrap or something?
>
Merrick, Carsen, and Reynolds Wrap?
I'm...
Merrick Baldelli
Well ahead of you for twisting that up in a way that makes
even me go, "buh?"
peachy ashie passion
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:10:43 GMT, peachy ashie passion
> <exquisi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Merrick Baldelli wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:36:34 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm totally serious. We have an old box of it in the pantry. I have no
>>>>>>>>idea why. I'm scared to put it on food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you continue to keep it... Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In case you visit!
>>>>>
>>>>> You think this is like the queer equivalent to Vampires and
>>>>>Garlic or something?
>>>>
>>>>No, more like Vampires and fresh blood in the fridge.
>>>
>>>
>>> *blinks* You think what? I'm some sort of Carsen Kressley
>>>with Reynolds' Wrap or something?
>>>
>>
>> Merrick, Carsen, and Reynolds Wrap?
>>
>> I'm...
>
>
> Well ahead of you for twisting that up in a way that makes
> even me go, "buh?"
>
That's not really the reaction I was hesitating to share. Um, sorry?
Tim Bruening
Ron wrote:
> On Aug 29, 4:45 pm, Anybody <anyb...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
> > In article <1188418338.836892.266...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Ron
> >
> >
> >
> > <BigELil...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > Citizen Bob, I know this post will thrill you! :)
> >
> > > CAPE CANAVERAL - May the force be with shuttle Discovery and seven
> > > astronauts on an October mission to the International Space Station.
> >
> > > Coming from a galaxy far, far away, the lightsaber wielded by Luke
> > > Skywalker in Star Wars will fly aboard the orbiter three decades after
> > > the classic movie opened.
> >
> > > "What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
> > > original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
> > > spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
> >
> > > The lightsaber will be on display at the visitor complex at NASA's
> > > Johnson Space Center in Houston through Labor Day. Then it will be
> > > shipped to Kennedy Space Center and packed into Discovery's mid-deck.
> >
> > > NASA spokesman James Hartsfield said the sci-fi sword would remain
> > > stowed throughout the shuttle's 13-day mission.
> >
> > Even as a big Star Wars fan I find this a complete waste of time. NASA
> > should be finding a way to make shuttles safer, not mucking about with
> > idiocies like this. :-\
>
> Agreed.
>
> Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
> the wing(s).
>
> They are just biding their time until 2010 when they retire it.
>
> Hopefully nothing will happen between now and then!
IMHO, its silly to retire the shuttle before NASA has its successor
operational!
Tim Bruening
David B wrote:
> "C.O.Jones" wrote:
>
> > In article <300820070845309685%any...@anywhere-anytime.com>, Anybody
> > <any...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1188418338.8...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Ron
> > > <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Citizen Bob, I know this post will thrill you! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CAPE CANAVERAL - May the force be with shuttle Discovery and seven
> > > > astronauts on an October mission to the International Space Station.
> > > >
> > > > Coming from a galaxy far, far away, the lightsaber wielded by Luke
> > > > Skywalker in Star Wars will fly aboard the orbiter three decades after
> > > > the classic movie opened.
> > > >
> > > > "What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
> > > > original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
> > > > spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
> > > >
> > > > The lightsaber will be on display at the visitor complex at NASA's
> > > > Johnson Space Center in Houston through Labor Day. Then it will be
> > > > shipped to Kennedy Space Center and packed into Discovery's mid-deck.
> > > >
> > > > NASA spokesman James Hartsfield said the sci-fi sword would remain
> > > > stowed throughout the shuttle's 13-day mission.
> > >
> > > Even as a big Star Wars fan I find this a complete waste of time. NASA
> > > should be finding a way to make shuttles safer, not mucking about with
> > > idiocies like this. :-\
> >
> > It's called good publicity, something else NASA needs.
>
> Especially after that crazy bitch wearing dispers on a multistate run to kill
> or at least harm her romantic rival debacle.
Wouldn't her would be boyfriend have been turned off by the diapers?:)
Tim Bruening
Citizen Bob Actual wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:55:03 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >Damn foam is STILL falling off of the external fuel tank and hitting
> >the wing(s).
>
> That was caused because NASA had to use a different adhesive for the
> tiles. The one they were using, which did work quite well, was not
> approved by the eco-freaks. So NASA caved in to political correctness
> and it cost people their lives.
The Columbia accident happened during the Bush II administration. What
would NASA be paying any attention to eco-freaks while under a President
who was skeptical about Global Warming (TM)?
Tim Bruening
"C.O.Jones" <ap...@solidbrass.com> wrote:
> In article <o6hcd3p0jeiqtfrkq...@4ax.com>, Merrick
> Baldelli <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:18 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"What better way to celebrate the 30th anniversary than to send the
> > >original lightsaber into space with the shuttle?" Julie Kuenstle, a
> > >spokeswoman for Space Center Houston, said Tuesday.
> >
> > What better way to spend my tax dollars, I wonder? Oh yeah, I
> > know. How 'bout a cure for Cancer or AIDS...
>
> I checked. You can rest easy, they didn't use any of your specific tax
> dollars for that. It was MY tax dollars, and I was ok with it. Yours
> went to some Senator's room service bill. They checked the serial
> numbers on the dollars.
When I pay my taxes, I write a check, so checking serial numbers would
not be possible.
Tim Bruening
Citizen Bob Actual wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:33:16 -0700, Ron <BigEL...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >> The problem is, I can't believe the story in the first place.
> >> Obviously the shuttles aren't common enough that they pose an
> >> environmental hazard.
>
> >Well, I've never heard anything about the type of adhesive they were
> >using being changed, but no matter what kind of adhesive they are
> >using, that's not gonna stop a frozen piece of foam from penetrating
> >the very fragile tiles.
>
> http://blogs.dfw.com/startle_grams/2006/07/in_houston_nasa.html
>
> In Houston, NASA's rocket scientists report that bird droppings are on
> the space shuttle's wing.
>
> Yep. While checking to see if any of the heat-resistant tiles that
> cover the spacecraft had fallen off during takeoff, the astronauts
> found big blotches of bird droppings.
>
> Now remember, our shuttle has tiles that fall off if you look at them
> too hard. Yet bird poop survives the thrust, acceleration, vibrations
> and the extreme temperatures and vagaries of space.
>
> So do any of you see where I'm going here? Do you? No? It's so obvious
>
> Why isn't NASA scrapping the tile adhesive and instead slathering the
> tiles with bird poop? It may not look or smell pretty, but if it
> works, I'd cover the whole thing with bird shit.
>
> Forget high-tech. Sometimes the answer is right under your nose.
I get the impression that the bird poop was found in orbit. Did it
survive reentry?
Is bird poop sticky enough to hold the tiles on?