DHD question
r.leamy
raised. What ever happened to the DHD that was with the Antartica gate. The
SGC took the 2nd gate to Area 51 and that gate was used by the rogue SG team
then stored away until the 1st gate was lost but then when Teal'c got
trapped in the gate memory and Carter needed a DHD to make the solution work
why did the SGC have to get the DHD from the Russian who had the original
DHD from Egypt. What happened to the Antartica gates DHD.
SlapShot
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Sam mentioned in "Frozen" S6, that despite analysis, the Antarctic DHD had
simply ran out of power. She figured it was x million years old.
Gizmo will have the correct figure - I'm not in a position to stick in the
tape just now.
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It should have been stored in Area 51 and when they needed it for Teal'c,
they should have just brought it out. However, it seemed that the writers
for some reason forgot we had one in "48 Hours". Later on, when they
realised their mistake (because they read this ng and we kindly pointed it
out to them <g>), they'd slipped in an explanation in "Frozen" (Season 6)
where they said the DHD had run out of power. So we still have it and
they're supposed to be working on it.
Eva
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In the tease for the episode, Carter said that "it could be as much as fifty
million years old." She based that on comparisons of the power source in that
DHD with other DHDs off-world. Which of course, begs the next logical question.
How did she know exactly how old an off-world DHD was in the first place?
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Gizmo
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Gizmo
cotku
Off the top of my head I'd say ...the weather thing one.
But checking my DVDs, it *is* indeed "Touchstone"
Brad Bilger
hich of course, begs the next logical question.
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She just turned it over and checked the date of manufacture.. 3,000,000
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Greg Richards
know about the gate when it was discovered in egypt, but I seem to remember
they got involved in the antartica episode. so they got the DHD and we got
the Gate? I have all episodes on tape, would be nicer to have them on DVD
but oh well... LOL Guess I will go watch them and find out.
Rob
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Russians didn't get involved until the first episode of S4. 'Solitudes' is
solidly set in S1.
The Antarctic gate was subsequently moved to area 51 where it was stored
until the S3/S4 cliffhanger. Here is the sequence of events:
a) SGC gate beamed aboard Thor's vessel at the end of S3.
b) Beliskner crashes into the ocean after crew gates off-world. (Episode
3-22)
c) SGC acquires the Antarctic gate from Area 51. (Episode 4-01)
d) Russians obtain the SGC stargate from the sunken Beliskner
e) Antarctic gate is removed from the SGC and is flown into space on the
X-302 spacecraft in an effort to get it as far away from Earth as possible
before it explodes (Episode 6-02)
f) Original SGC gate is returned from Russia. (Episode 6-02)
Stargate locations, minus the Antarctic gate, are now back to the way they
were in S3.
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Okay, here goes: History lesson of the stargates and DHDs found on Earth so far.
Dates for events shown are based on original air dates for Showtime episodes in
USA. Other dates are for historical events established in dialog in the series
or the movie:
1906 - A German archeology teams finds and recovers the DHD from Giza. From SG-1
episode "The Tomb"
1928 - Another team led by Katherine Langford's dad (presumably funded by an
American university, although he sure did sound German) found and recovered a
stargate from Giza. From the movie "Stargate"
1945 - Ernest Littlefield is lost in an experiment conducted on the stargate by
the US Army (presumably the Air Corp or Air Force part). From SG-1 episode "The
Torment of Tantalus"
1945 - Soviet military forces recover the DHD found at Giza by the Germans and
confiscated it. "Watergate"
1969 - SG-1 uses the stargate found at Giza to go forward in time by manually
charging and dialling the gate. "1969"
1994-5 ish - Daniel Jackson enables the USAF research team to activate the
stargate (originally from Giza) and later accompanies a military recon team
through the stargate. The stargate is powered using high voltage electricity and
controlled by a massive computer. "Stargate" the Movie
1997 - Apophis activates the stargate (same one from the movie) in the SGC,
kills four SFs and kidnaps another. This starts the series, which continues with
the stargate that was originally found in Giza and controlled by a dialling
computer. "Children of the Gods".
1998 - While retreating back to Earth, O'Neill and Carter are sent to what
appears to be a crevasse of a glacier on an ice planet. It turns out that the
stargate and it DHD are actually in Antarctica, a few miles away from the
American base at McMurdo. "Solitudes" Both the stargate and its DHD are sent to
the Area 51 facility. "Touchstone".
NOTE: for continuity's sake, I'll use the same designations that Hammond uses
when referring to the different stargates/DHDs. The one from Giza is called the
Alpha gate and the one from Antarctica is called the Beta gate.
1998 - The NID starts using the beta gate and its DHD to raid other planets for
artifacts and technology. SG-1 eventually catches up to the team doing it and as
a result, the beta gate has a permanent iris welded over it and it is
transferred to the custody of the SGC. They never say onscreen that the beta DHD
is also transferred to the SGC."Touchstone"
2000 - O'Neill is transported to Thor's ship in a last-ditch attempt to stop the
replicators from landing the ship on Earth. Jack, Sam and Teal'c rig a bomb to
the ship's decelleration drive. Since the outbound transporter is diabled, they
use the inbound transporter to beam the alpha gate out of the SGC and dial it
manually to an off-world address. They then blow the decelleration drive after
the ship enters the upper atmosphere and use the alpha gate to escape from
Thor's ship. The ship blows up into a fireball and the wreckage falls into the
Pacific Ocean. After the Alpha gate is beamed out of the SGC, Hammond orders the
Beta gate out of storage and set up in the SGC. "Nemesis"
2000 - Once the beta gate is finally operational in the SGC, O'Neill, Carter and
Teal'c return to the SGC from off-world. Thor arrives shortly thereafter, and he
and Carter go to Thor's planet using the stargate. Thor uses a little handheld
device to reopen the gate (no kawhoosh). "Small Victories"
2000 - After they're unable to activate the stargate in the SGC, SG-1 discover a
seismic signature from Siberia that could be another stargate in use. It turns
out that the Russians recovered the alpha gate from the ocean and set it up
using the alpha DHD that they confiscated after the Great Patriotic War. While
it is not shown onscreen, apparently the Russians agree to not use that stargate
in return for an equal share in all technology brought back from off-world.
"Watergate"
2001 - An alien who follows SG-1 back to Earth builds a small stargate and
control interface from strictly terrestrial materials for use as a one-time only
ride back to Velona, the planet that he came from to stop SG-16 from testing a
weapon whose design he had inspired earlier. The mini-gate burned out, and has
presumably been carted off to wherever they cart such things off to nowadays.
"Ascension"
2002 - When Teal'c fails to rematerialize after SG-1 escapes from Tanith, the
SGC enters into negotiations with the Russians to borrow the alpha DHD and use
it to fool the beta gate in the SGC into completing the rematerialization
sequence. After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, the Russians agree and the
DHD is used to successfully retrieve Teal'c. A massive poser discharge fries the
alpha DHD, however and it appears to be completely unusable. It is never stated
onscreen whether the SGC maintained custody of the remains or if it went back to
the Russians. "48 Hours"
2002 - What begins as a power anomaly becomes a crisis when it is discovered
that Anubis is attacking the beta stargate at the SGC by slowly but inexorably
forcing it to an overload point, which will cause it to explode in a massive
detonation that could destroy a significant part of the ecosystem. Eventually
they fly the beta gate into hyperspace and it detonates harmlessly a few million
miles away. The US negotiates a deal with the Russians for the alpha gate and
set it back up in the SGC. "Redemption pts. 1 & 2"
2002 - It is revealed that the beta DHD ran out of power shortly after it was
used by the NID. Carter theorizes that the beta DHD (and by inference the beta
stargate) could be as much as fifty million years old. "Frozen"
So, here's where we stand now. The alpha stargate is up and running in the SGC,
still using the dialing computer to control it. The alpha DHD was largely
destroyed in "48 Hours" and it's current location is unknown. The beta stargate
was destroyed in a deliberate attack by Anubis, but fortunately for Earth, it
was a long way away when it blew. The beta DHD is in US custody, although it's
never been stated explicitly that the SGC has custody of it or if it's still at
under NID custody at the Groom Lake facility.
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Gizmo
Faron
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>Okay, here goes: History lesson of the stargates and DHDs found on Earth so far.
>Dates for events shown are based on original air dates for Showtime episodes in
>USA. Other dates are for historical events established in dialog in the series
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Gizmo, can I translate and use that whole thing on my Norwegian SG-1
website? Pretty please... :)
Faron
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"If not used by end of 1000AD, this unit must be recharged."
And being in the military, there'll be a 'mod' sticker right beside it so
they can date and document when they screwed around with it, to make it
'better' of course!
If the UK Military got hold of it, it would have a 13-figure part number.
4739-87-501-7389 : Device, dialling home, alien. 1 off.
Oh and a /|\ (arrow) symbol stamped on it somewhere... (looks more effective
in arial than in notepad font)
The NID would not have been so lucky.
RQ arrives on scene. (Regimental Quartermaster)
RQ: What's going on? where are you taking that thing?
NID guy: Erm, <whispers: Sh*t, it's the RQ> We're taking it for cleaning?
RQ: Have you signed for that?
NID guy: No, R.Q.
RQ: <Calls to QM Sergeant>Mickey, get them a 2938-37-292-6584 form and make
sure it's filled out in triplicate <mutters to himself: no wonder stuff's
going missing!>
We loved you really, Pat!
They say that the British Army cured AIDS by giving it a 13-figure part
number. That way, no bugger could get it!
;o)
cotku
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Wow! Cool! You are the oracle, Gizmo!
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> 2001 - An alien who follows SG-1 back to Earth builds a small stargate and
> control interface from strictly terrestrial materials for use as a
one-time only
> ride back to Velona, the planet that he came from to stop SG-16 from
testing a
> weapon whose design he had inspired earlier. The mini-gate burned out, and
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> presumably been carted off to wherever they cart such things off to
nowadays.
> "Ascension"
It's probably sitting in that warehouse right beside the box with the "Ark
of the Covenant" in it (From Raiders...)
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Bill Godfrey
(Which episodes require this space anyway?)
> c) SGC acquires the Antarctic gate from Area 51. (Episode 4-01)
> f) Original SGC gate is returned from Russia. (Episode 6-02)
Right, from the cliffhanger episode (with the replicators on the submarine)
where the Giza gate was lost and found by the Russians, the SGC have been
using the Antartic gate, up to the point where it was destroyed when they
carried it a long way away.
(The two gates now, mid S6; Giza - In the SGC. Antartic - In bits, deep
space.)
IIRC, the Antartic gate does not have the A symbol as the home chevron. I
recall SC mentioning that a symbol which looked a bit like a small Greek
sigma symbol. "I don't recognise this one. It must be the point of origin."
(Am I correct so far?)
The directors often like to show the symbols moving around, especially the
home symbol. It's nice and recognisable and makes for good telly.
I seem to recall that in series 3, 4 and 5, we do see the original A symbol
appear, where we should have the "sigma" instead. Cock up or just me
confused?
Bill, probably the latter.
gizmo-goddard
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> Gizmo, can I translate and use that whole thing on my Norwegian SG-1
> website? Pretty please... :)
Yes, you may.
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Gizmo
Faron
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Thank you! :)
G Milner
least the aliens would be impressed at its prettyness, and then you would
have big buttons to press, rather than little pesky things, there would
still be the main computer, just with efectively a bigger keyboard
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Jonas: T'ialc when did you learn to drive?
T'ialc: I believe the year was 1969
Parallax
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> Perhaps they could incorporate bits of a dhd into the computer dialer, at
> least the aliens would be impressed at its prettyness, and then you would
> have big buttons to press, rather than little pesky things, there would
> still be the main computer, just with efectively a bigger keyboard
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Or, since there are pieces of two DHDs laying around, they should be
able to make one good one out of the two.
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Replace '???????' with 'prodigy' to email me.
cotku
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Yep, except I thought the symbol was a circle with a line underneath and
apart from it...
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Yep, the latter.
> "Big Wrench Guy" sand blasted off the Sigma and chiseled in an
> Angstrom symbol. The post it notes just kept falling off the gate.
But you have to admit, this was funny!
Better than "The magic marker symbol didn't have the ring of authenticity
about it..."
LOL!
rtomasi
I'm new to this group, and am a late commer to SG-1. Actually got into
it before the holidays at the suggestion of a girl friend who has been a fan
for several season. Having said all that, I saw the episode involving the
Russian gate and the DHD, and, not having seen most of the episodes, I am at
a loss. I am currently playing catchup by renting the DVDs from
www.netflix.com .Would someone be so kind as to tell my what the DHD is?
Rollo
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> Hi, All:
> I'm new to this group, and am a late commer to SG-1. Actually got into
> it before the holidays at the suggestion of a girl friend who has been a fan
> for several season. Having said all that, I saw the episode involving the
> Russian gate and the DHD, and, not having seen most of the episodes, I am at
> a loss. I am currently playing catchup by renting the DVDs from
> www.netflix.com .Would someone be so kind as to tell my what the DHD is?
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the various coordinate symbols into when they're off-world to open the stargate.
It's a combination power supply/ supercomputer/and whatever else it needs to
make the stargate network connection work.
__!_!__
Gizmo
Bill Godfrey
[Antartic gate home symbol]
> Yep, except I thought the symbol was a circle with a line underneath and
> apart from it...
You're probably right, my memory of these details is hazy at best.
Anyone got a frame from this scene showing this symbol?
> > >Bill, probably the latter.
> Yep, the latter.
I suspected as much.
So where was my error? Is it that the "A" home symbol never been shown in
S3/4/5 or the Antartic gate (now in several pieces) did indeed have the
same home symbol, and this "sigma" (yeh I know) that SC spotted was just a
red herring. (Or something else entirely.)
> > "Big Wrench Guy" sand blasted off the Sigma and chiseled in an
> > Angstrom symbol. The post it notes just kept falling off the gate.
Bill, hmmmmm...
Rob
> Hi, All:
> I'm new to this group, and am a late commer to SG-1. Actually got into
> it before the holidays at the suggestion of a girl friend who has been a fan
> for several season. Having said all that, I saw the episode involving the
> Russian gate and the DHD, and, not having seen most of the episodes, I am at
> a loss. I am currently playing catchup by renting the DVDs from
> www.netflix.com .Would someone be so kind as to tell my what the DHD is?
>
> Rollo
Welcome. I suggest that before you go any further, watch the movie
followed by 'Children of the Gods', Stargate SG-1 episode 1-01. These two
tasks should give you most of the basics of 'Stargate SG-1'. Also, when
you get the time watch the S1 episodes. I still find things I wasn't aware
of in them after all these years.
http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s1/101.shtml
You wouldn't happen to have 'L.A. Confidential' in your DVD collection now,
would you? : )
rtomasi
Rollo
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rtomasi
holidays. Since my new found interest in SG-1 I made a point of watching it.
I saw the pilot a few days ago which did a good job of laying down the
ground work for the series. I don't recal any mention of DHD in the pilot,
which is why I asked. I'm still working on season one by way of DVD as well
as watching the SG-! Mondays on SciFi, and the new episodes on Fridays on
SciFi. I know I have some catching up to do, but with a show lke SG-1, it's
a pleasure to be able to watch several episodes at a clip, without
commercials.
> You wouldn't happen to have 'L.A. Confidential' in your DVD collection
now,
> would you? : )
Why no, why do you ask??;-)
Rollo
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gizmo-goddard
> One of the Turner networks had the original movie on during the
> holidays. Since my new found interest in SG-1 I made a point of watching it.
> I saw the pilot a few days ago which did a good job of laying down the
> ground work for the series. I don't recal any mention of DHD in the pilot,
> which is why I asked.
If by the pilot you mean the first series episode "Children of the Gods", then
they *do* make a bit of a big deal out of the DHD. After they go to Abydos to
find Daniel, Carter starts gushing about how this was the device that was
missing from the Giza dig and about how small it was, yada, yada, yada, before
O'Neill snaps her out it by introducing her to Daniel. They don't actually name
it a Dial Home Device until the next episode "The Enemy Within", where Daniel
and Sam are seen describing the device in a training session for other SG
personnel. Daniel doesn't call it a dial home device, but that name is clearly
seen written on the white board behind him.
__!_!__
Gizmo
Ridge
What do other races call it? The gate has a name (can't remember how to
spell it) but what do they call the DHD?
gizmo-goddard
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> What do other races call it? The gate has a name (can't remember how to
> spell it) but what do they call the DHD?
The stargate is called Chappa-aye (sp.) but I can't recall the gao'uld, the
jaffa or the Abydonians ever giving a specific name to the dialing device
itself. Perhaps they don't see a need to call it something different; it's just
another component of the stargate mechanism.
__!_!__
Gizmo
John Smith
but one can probably assume that she/they just translate the Goa'uld
word into English. What is the correct word in Goa'uld we haven't heard.
John
rtomasi
Rollo
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alpha HSD working one day or just mothball the whole thing until one day
Carter screams" Jonas lets go to area 51 and Mcgyver a dialing device from
the 2"
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missions to go home ussually "O'neil screams " Daniel Dial us home" hence
the name
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gizmo-goddard
> > So, here's where we stand now. The alpha stargate is up and running in the
> SGC,
> > still using the dialing computer to control it. The alpha DHD was largely
> > destroyed in "48 Hours" and it's current location is unknown. The beta
> stargate
> > was destroyed in a deliberate attack by Anubis, but fortunately for Earth,
> it
> > was a long way away when it blew. The beta DHD is in US custody, although
> it's
> > never been stated explicitly that the SGC has custody of it or if it's
> still at
> > under NID custody at the Groom Lake facility.
> >
"r.leamy" <r.l...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:1oSY9.42091$4y2.877@sccrnsc04...
> So do you think that they might uses the parts from the beta HSD to get the
> alpha HSD working one day or just mothball the whole thing until one day
> Carter screams" Jonas lets go to area 51 and Mcgyver a dialing device from
> the 2"
First of all, a point of order here. Try not to top-post, especially if the post
that you're responding to has spoiler space included. There are a number of
readers who have not seen everything that has been aired yet, and top-posting
bypasses any spoiler space that was put into an earlier post to protect those
readers.
Now back on the topic. The beta DHD is out of power but otherwise undamaged. I'm
sure that they could find a way to recharge the darn thing if they had to, but
at the moment, the SGC seems content to stick with the computer technology that
have been using.
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Gizmo