May I humbly suggest a positive *new* topic to replace the old ones
filled with mean gunk?
Here's my idea: could the lu4kers out there post here about how the all
ST series, and Voyager in particular, have changed their lives? I know
that there are a lot trekkies out there who have been deeply affected
and touched by these shows, especially by Voyager with its heroic
captain janeway. Everyday I find more stories that are truly
inspirational. I especially love the story about the brave woman who
insisted on wearing her star trek uniform to court while serving on a
jury. This is the kind of example we should all be striving to set! If
the world became more like ST then it would be a far better place.
For my small part I like to let people know that I am very loyal to ST
ideals. If you were to visit my office you would see a shrine to all
things Voyager. The walls of my cubicle are wall-papered with ST poster
and calenders. I have Captain Janeway coffee mugs for myseld and
visitors. I also have inspirational quotes from Janeway taped in front
of my desk.
Thus my cubicle has been turned into a sanctuary from the cold-hard
world.
Please share with me your stories, and I will share with you mine, how
this greatest of all TV series has profoundly and deeply saved our
lives.
Jenny
In fact, I'm saving up for Major Kira's uniform. I will wear it as
often as possible, especially to school. So what if it gets me a few
wierd looks? I'm standing up for what I believe in, and I'm proud of
what Star Trek and its fan have accomplished.
I like to write and I adore science fiction because of growing up with
Star Trek. My obsession has literally made me a smarter, brighter,
happier person, and I'm forever greatful.
You made me smile. Thank you for sharing.
Jeff
> In fact, I'm saving up for Major Kira's uniform. I will wear it as
> often as possible, especially to school. So what if it gets me a few
> wierd looks? I'm standing up for what I believe in, and I'm proud of
> what Star Trek and its fan have accomplished.
Bless you. I have a ST uniform too. Where do you live? Perhaps we could
go out to Arby's for a burger and fries in our uniforms?
>
> I like to write and I adore science fiction because of growing up with
> Star Trek. My obsession has literally made me a smarter, brighter,
> happier person, and I'm forever greatful.
No doubt.
Claudius
Many people say "obsession" as if it were a bad thing. You my dear have
disproven them all with this post. I hope that the world is not overly
cruel to you when you step out your front door resplendent in your new
Kira uniform.
Carmine
> >>For my small part I like to let people know that I am very loyal to ST
> >>ideals. If you were to visit my office you would see a shrine to all
> >>things Voyager. The walls of my cubicle are wall-papered with ST poster
> >>and calenders. I have Captain Janeway coffee mugs for myseld and
> >>visitors. I also have inspirational quotes from Janeway taped in front
> >>of my desk.
Where can one find such treasures? You are a very fortunate man.
Carmine
I have been saying the very same thing since March 1979. If only the
world would listen....
Alas,
Carmine
I knew my thread would get these kinds of responses from trekkies!
I want to hear from others!!!!!!!
Care Bear
Perhaps with a little bit of toil and luck trekkies can make this the
longest running ST thread in history!!!
Come on!
Jenny
Sometimes when I feel alone and utterly rejected by the world I go into
my room and paint my face in ST colors. Sometimes, I even take my shirt
off and paint my entire chest with scenes from ST. I then venture out
into the world. I especially like strolling through our local mall. Boy,
do the old fogies in Wal_marts give me weird looks.
Somehow it all makes me feel better.
Paco
>
>I remember the first time I watched "Duet" on DS9. It affected me in
>such a personal way that I cried myself to sleep the next three nights.
>That was the episode that got me addicted.
>
>In fact, I'm saving up for Major Kira's uniform. I will wear it as
>often as possible, especially to school. So what if it gets me a few
>wierd looks? I'm standing up for what I believe in, and I'm proud of
>what Star Trek and its fan have accomplished.
>
>I like to write and I adore science fiction because of growing up with
>Star Trek. My obsession has literally made me a smarter, brighter,
>happier person, and I'm forever greatful.
>
>Patricia Landrum
Me too!
>I remember the first time I watched "Duet" on DS9. It affected me in
>such a personal way that I cried myself to sleep the next three nights.
>That was the episode that got me addicted.
>
>In fact, I'm saving up for Major Kira's uniform. I will wear it as
>often as possible, especially to school. So what if it gets me a few
>wierd looks? I'm standing up for what I believe in, and I'm proud of
>what Star Trek and its fan have accomplished.
>
>I like to write and I adore science fiction because of growing up with
>Star Trek. My obsession has literally made me a smarter, brighter,
>happier person, and I'm forever greatful.
I too have really been touched by Trek. I became addicted to
it way back in 88-89 when the writers touched on Tasha/Data storyline
in "The Naked Now". I'm a sucker for romance in almost all things and
that episode did it for me. When DS9 first came out I automatically
figured that it couldn't hold a candle to the other Treks and didn't
really watch it. Finally about three years my best friend was joking
about me being an incurable romantic and suggested that I watch the
then current DS9 ep called "Heart of Stone". I thought "What the hell,
how bad can it be?" It was probably one of the best things that I ever
did. I became an absolute DS9 Odo and Kira junkie. The upcoming
episode "His Way" will be the culmation of three long years of waiting
for these two love birds to finally see the light.
I think that few people can top me in the ST uniform that they
have. I have 4 uniforms. One for each series. I have a 'red shirt'
uniform from classic Trek, a first season TNG uniform, an original
Major Kira uniform done in real ultra suede, and a Voyager uniform.
I also have lifesize cardboard standups of both Odo and Kira, about
approx. 100 action figures, all the Trek books, numerous cups, mugs,
plates, toys, even a picnic duffle bag shaped like the Enterprise. My
bedroom is litterally a shrine to Star Trek.
I'd have to say the biggest way that it has effected my life
is that I named my baby daughter (now 6 months old):
Kyrra Rene
Anyone else named their child or children after one of the
Trek actors or characters? Just curious.
Geran Kell
"live now, make now always the most precious time. Now will never come
again." -the inner light
Hmmm...trying to think of the last time I gained significant philosophical,
moral, inspirational, or spiritual guidance from a television program...
still working on it... uh, I'll have to get back to you on that. I will
remember the prospective juror trick, though, for next time I need to be
rapidly excused from jury duty.
--
John D. Goulden
assimilated by trek in '69
jgou...@flash.net
As a result of ST: V I am quitiing law to pursue my dream of opening the
world's first musuem of ST Character Chia Pets. Visitors will be able to see
chia pet versions of all their favorite ST chracters.
Donations gladly accepted.
Ken
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The Holsteins wrote:
> Patricia Landrum <land...@ticnet.com> responded with:
>
> >I remember the first time I watched "Duet" on DS9. It affected me in
> >such a personal way that I cried myself to sleep the next three nights.
> >That was the episode that got me addicted.
> >
> >In fact, I'm saving up for Major Kira's uniform. I will wear it as
> >often as possible, especially to school. So what if it gets me a few
> >wierd looks? I'm standing up for what I believe in, and I'm proud of
> >what Star Trek and its fan have accomplished.
> >
> >I like to write and I adore science fiction because of growing up with
> >Star Trek. My obsession has literally made me a smarter, brighter,
> >happier person, and I'm forever greatful.
> >
> >Patricia Landrum
>
> Me too!
GET A LIFE!!! May I humbly suggest that you try reading a book? Then,
perhaps, you will realize how completely awful the writing for ALL the TREK
series has been for YEARS!!! Five years ago, if you had told me that I would
have liked a movie for Lost In Space better than a Star Trek movie, I would
have thought you were insane. I'm sorry to say that the writing and the
performances and direction of Lost In Space was better than the last two TREK
movies put together. Of eight total movies, only three were worth what I paid
to see them. Trek is dead. It died when Paramount turned it into a
franchise. At one time they went somewhere and it was all original.
Unfortunately, the only decent episodes any TREK show has had lately have
relied upon gimmicks and rehashes of old plots from TOS. Bill Shatner said it
best: "Move out of your parent's basement. Get a life."
Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
>The Holsteins wrote:
>> Patricia Landrum <land...@ticnet.com> responded with:
>> >The Care Bear wrote:
>> >> Hello Fellow Trekkies,
>> >> May I humbly suggest a positive *new* topic to replace the old ones
>> >> filled with mean gunk?
<snip>
>> >> For my small part I like to let people know that I am very loyal to ST
>> >> ideals. If you were to visit my office you would see a shrine to all
>> >> things Voyager. The walls of my cubicle are wall-papered with ST poster
>> >> and calenders. I have Captain Janeway coffee mugs for myseld and
>> >> visitors. I also have inspirational quotes from Janeway taped in front
>> >> of my desk.
>> >> Thus my cubicle has been turned into a sanctuary from the cold-hard
>> >> world.
Okay - this sounds a little obsessive, but it's fun. As long as you
view it as a fun way to enjoy life and don't hold Trek as the be-all
and end-all of existance then good for you. Nice to see someone able
to enjoy life. Work is bad enough - sounds like you've found an
excellent solution.
>> >I remember the first time I watched "Duet" on DS9. It affected me in
>> >such a personal way that I cried myself to sleep the next three nights.
>> >That was the episode that got me addicted.
I can't say Trek has ever effected me greatly - but I did have a tear
in my eye when I first saw the episode with Data's daughter
("Offspring" wasn't it?) and also in "Dark Page" - which I think is
one of the most poiniant episodes in Trek.
>> >In fact, I'm saving up for Major Kira's uniform. I will wear it as
>> >often as possible, especially to school. So what if it gets me a few
>> >wierd looks? I'm standing up for what I believe in, and I'm proud of
>> >what Star Trek and its fans have accomplished.
>> Me too!
I might be more involved but my girlfriend is not a trek fan at all so
I keep life in perspective. I do own my own solid metal comm badge
(TNG original style) though and I have worn it many times... got into
a trek conversation once with a shop assistant because I was wearing
it.
My resource manager as work is also a fan - he was using events from
trek as examples when we talk last!
And now that detailed critique...
> GET A LIFE!!!
Hey yeah, I think I saw an advert for one of those once - where do
they sell 'em?
>May I humbly suggest that you try reading a book?
>Then, perhaps, you will realize how completely awful the writing for ALL the TREK
>series has been for YEARS!!!
Got about three to four hundred books - and, apart from the Tech.
Manual, none of them Treky... Yes I have read them, strange how most
of them wouldn't make it as a TV show though. Guess we'll leave it to
the Trek guy, after all several million viewers in each of the 70 or
so countries world wide that show it must say something for it!
Funny, it may not be good writting - but it's good viewing IMO.
> Five years ago, if you had told me that I would
>have liked a movie for Lost In Space better than a Star Trek movie, I would
>have thought you were insane.
Yup, but it does look a cracking good movie: LiS... several weeks
before we in the UK get to see it though. What do you think of the
Trek series' though? As TV programs I mean know - not as works of
literature (which, with the very rare exception, they could never be.)
> I'm sorry to say that the writing and the
>performances and direction of Lost In Space was better than the last two TREK
>movies put together.
Really? Must be a very good movie then - I quite enjoyed the TNG
movies... 8 was a lot better than 7 IMO, I like a good action with
humour film.
> Of eight total movies, only three were worth what I paid
>to see them.
Hey - that's a bit vague. Which three? Okay, let me guess - 1,2 and 6.
(1 because it would have been a lot cheaper to see a film back then,
otherwise 4 - no you don't sound the sort that enjoys "fun" films).
> Trek is dead. It died when Paramount turned it into a
>franchise.
Wasn't that about two months after TOS Season 3 ended (ie. just before
TAS)??
> At one time they went somewhere and it was all original.
Okay - that was up to about... episode two of TOS and maybe that's
pushing it. (Face it, everything is a reworking of something.)
>Unfortunately, the only decent episodes any TREK show has had lately have
>relied upon gimmicks and rehashes of old plots from TOS. Bill Shatner said it
>best: "Move out of your parent's basement. Get a life."
Yup, I remember seeing that on a rare UK showing of Saturday Night
Live.
I guess you could say - enjoy your life, don't nitpick and fuss over
details... anything that makes your life fun and doesn't kill anyone
is great! Put on your trek outfits (expensive though they are) get to
a convention - take the mick out of everyone and especially yourself
and have a laugh.
Lighten up - reality can be so boring, get an _enjoyable_ life!
>Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
Oh sorry - I see you were being sarcastic all the time... *grin*
(seriously, I like BabbleYawn 5 too.)
M
Most books are even worse mindless dribble stories than TV. Worse
still, it takes you longer to figure out how bad it really is. With a
book you are reading it for days, with a TV show or movie, a few hours
and its over. Yes a good book is better than any movie or show but
just genericaly saying "read a book" as in ANY book isn't good advice.
>Then,
>perhaps, you will realize how completely awful the writing for ALL the TREK
>series has been for YEARS!!! Five years ago, if you had told me that I would
>have liked a movie for Lost In Space better than a Star Trek movie, I would
>have thought you were insane.
Bah! The only thing the Lost in Space movie was good for was to remind
everyone how GOOD the TV show was. I can't believe they ruined the
concept so easily.
>I'm sorry to say that the writing and the
>performances and direction of Lost In Space was better than the last two TREK
>movies put together.
First Contact was really good but you are right about Generations. An
anal probe is better than Generations.
>Of eight total movies, only three were worth what I paid
>to see them.
Maybe you just don't like movies.
>Trek is dead. It died when Paramount turned it into a
>franchise.
So its been dead for over a decade? Man if thats death, sign my up!
>
>Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
>
Real........boring.
Rob Merritt
My Might and Magic page:http://www.jagunet.com/~robertm/homm.html
My Toy page starring Micronauts and LegoBlocks:http://www.jagunet.com/~robertm/micro.html
> GET A LIFE!!! May I humbly suggest that you try reading a book? Then,
> perhaps, you will realize how completely awful the writing for ALL the TREK
> series has been for YEARS!!!
SNIP
> Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
>
Sigh, I knew such a thread could never last.
One more time. Babylon 5 is not real, either. It is just a tv show.
Obsessing over it just because it is the cool new thing in town will not
make you look any less like a desperate geek than if you were obsessing
about Trek. It may amaze you, but some of us who like Trek also like
B5--and vice versa. Your comments interfere with that enjoyment, and
(more important to you, I'm sure) make you look like a sad, little
troll. These people are not making any comments--good or bad--about you,
or B5. Now, stop flaming them and grow up.
Rob Merritt wrote:
> >May I humbly suggest that you try reading a book?
>
> Most books are even worse mindless dribble stories than TV. Worse
> still, it takes you longer to figure out how bad it really is. With a
> book you are reading it for days, with a TV show or movie, a few hours
> and its over. Yes a good book is better than any movie or show but
> just genericaly saying "read a book" as in ANY book isn't good advice.
>
> >Then,
> >perhaps, you will realize how completely awful the writing for ALL the TREK
> >series has been for YEARS!!! Five years ago, if you had told me that I would
> >have liked a movie for Lost In Space better than a Star Trek movie, I would
> >have thought you were insane.
>
> Bah! The only thing the Lost in Space movie was good for was to remind
> everyone how GOOD the TV show was. I can't believe they ruined the
> concept so easily.
>
> >I'm sorry to say that the writing and the
> >performances and direction of Lost In Space was better than the last two TREK
> >movies put together.
>
> First Contact was really good but you are right about Generations. An
> anal probe is better than Generations.
>
> >Of eight total movies, only three were worth what I paid
> >to see them.
>
> Maybe you just don't like movies.
>
> >Trek is dead. It died when Paramount turned it into a
> >franchise.
>
> So its been dead for over a decade? Man if thats death, sign my up!
>
> >
> >Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
> >
>
> Real........boring.
> Rob Merritt
> My Might and Magic page:http://www.jagunet.com/~robertm/homm.html
> My Toy page starring Micronauts and LegoBlocks:http://www.jagunet.com/~robertm/micro.html
To be perfectly honest, I rarely have time to read a good book. And there is rather a lot
of mindless drivel out there, disguising itself as literature. However, a GOOD book will
fire the imagination for years to come, and a mediocre book at least forces you to visualise
things for yourself, using the gray matter between our ears for something other than
memorizing advertising 'jingles'!!!
I wish I had more time to read. Then I wouldn't care that TREK had gone mindless....
Four years ago I was seriously contemplating ending my pathetic and wretched
existence on this planet. Then I saw am episode of Voyager and suddenly I had
something to live for.
I now run the world's foremost Museum of Chia Pet Voyager Characters.
When V. is cancelled I will jump off the Empire State Building
Amarna (World's Most Obnoxious Trekkie)
e for.
>
> I now run the world's foremost Museum of Chia Pet Voyager Characters.
>
> When V. is cancelled I will jump off the Empire State Building
>
> Amarna (World's Most Obnoxious Trekkie)
>
That is terrible. Once my friends gave me a chia head for christmas
(don't ask). We grew it in the bandroom. Someone commented that it looks
just like chakotay. Did I mention that I just LOVE Robert Beltran? I
hope you're lying. I want the world's foremost museum of chia pet voyager
characters!
nana
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Imagine the universe, perfect as it can be.
The 'is' has imagined it better than you have.
-from 'Illusions'
Five years ago, if you had told me that I would
>have liked a movie for Lost In Space better than a Star Trek movie, I would
>have thought you were insane. I'm sorry to say that the writing and the
>performances and direction of Lost In Space was better than the last two
TREK
>movies put together. Of eight total movies, only three were worth what I
paid
>to see them.
I agree with all except the suggestion that Lust in Space was better written
than First Contract. There was much, much that was wrong with FC, but it did
deal with better issues than LiS, and the science, bad as it was, was far
superior than the "dying Earth" nonsense of LiS. I was impressed with the
fact that LiS *did* manage to out-PC most of Star Trek. Of course, this is
like choosing between dying in a car crash and dying in a falling elevator.
Neither are really what you want.
>Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
No. Babylon 5 is (somewhat) *realistic*. Far more so than Trek. But, it's
not real. It's a TV show, just like Trek. :)
> Four years ago I was seriously contemplating ending my pathetic and wretched
> existence on this planet. Then I saw am episode of Voyager and suddenly I had
> something to live for.
>
> I now run the world's foremost Museum of Chia Pet Voyager Characters.
>
> When V. is cancelled I will jump off the Empire State Building
>
> Amarna (World's Most Obnoxious Trekkie)
>
Here's keeping my fingers crossed that the cancellation comes sooner
than later.
Dude
Same here, bro.
Ken
Wow, I think I'm going to wear my Vorlon Encounter Suit to work. (Naaaah, people
would get me confused with the pest control guy. :p)
> GET A LIFE!!! May I humbly suggest that you try reading a book? Then,
>perhaps, you will realize how completely awful the writing for ALL the TREK
>series has been for YEARS!!! Five years ago, if you had told me that I would
Granted, it's been bad in many places, and I steadfastly believe that the
damned Dominion war is a cheap rip off of the Shadow War (Don't ask unless you want
ten pages of stuff I think up at 4 am. (Hey, I have no life :P)) But not all of it
's *that* bad :p
>performances and direction of Lost In Space was better than the last two TREK
>movies put together. Of eight total movies, only three were worth what I paid
>to see them.
LIS was not that great. However, First Contact, IMHO, sucked. :p Borg. Yeah, yeah,
like they haven't invaded Earth before :p How many damned times can you blow up
cube-shaped ships before it gets boring? Anyway, as for the movies, I must say,
IV kicked ass. ;) "He took a little too much LDS."
>Now, Babylon 5 is REAL!!!!
Babylon 5 is not real, and for some reason I'm defending this statement. I assume
what you mean (*poke other people*) is that B5 is *realistic*. I especially point to
the fact that Earth would be instantly heading a 'Federation'. My arse, look around
at the arrogance sometime.
Lieutenant: Captain, that weird ship with that rotating thing for gravity is
penetrating our shields! Their weapons appear to be based on physics!