Since DM isn't around... WARNING: MAJOR SPOILERS (allegedly...)
Therese Gray
there are a few changes to upcoming eps and someone has (allegedly)
completely spoiled one of them.....
Not sure I believe all of it, but anyway, you have been warned!
BTW, there are a couple of other eps: Dreadnaught II (or something!)
and "Someone to watch over me" and possibly another one or two - I
can't remember. Anyway, no change to the spoilers for any other eps.
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"11.59"
US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.4
Written by Brannon Braga & Joe Menosky. Directed by ?.
A Janeway show, dealing with her family and her past. Also apparently
deals with how history affects the present.
Brannon Braga, in Star Trek: The Magazine, has been quoted as saying,
"We're also going to be doing a millenium episode that takes place
completely in the year 2000 on Earth, where we get to follow
Janeway's distant, distant ancestor,
great-great-great-great-great-grandmother. She will be played by Kate
Mulgrew, and it will be a quintessential. Star Trek story told in
contemporary times." (Thanks to Elim Garak & SolarFlare Forums)
[My verdict: sounds *DREADFUL* !!!! And in any case, if it's a
millenium ep, why are they showing it now? BTW, I thought this one
was meant to be written by Mommie Dearest?!?]
"Relativity"
US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.4
Story by Nick Sagan. Teleplay by Bryan Fuller, Nick Sagan, and
Michael Taylor. Directed by Allan
Eastman.
Seven of Nine is taken in to the past by 29th century Starfleet to
disable a temporal time bomb that is hiding in Voyager's
past. Her Borg implants allow her to find and disable the bomb which
is hiding slightly out of phase with normal time. Starfleet takes
Seven to a time when Voyager is still in drydocks over Earth. To
conceal her identity, Seven has to wear a
Starfleet uniform and must attempt to conceal her Borg implants.
Neetz, Fan Club Coordinator of MAJC: The Official Josh Clark Fan
Club, was kind enough to tell us that the rumors about
Joe Carey's return in "Relativity" are absolutely true. Josh filmed
his scenes (one of which was with with Jeri Ryan) on
Thursday, February 18th.
A source emailed TGL with full spoilers for this episode. Thanks to
him/her. Enjoy:
Teaser: Takes place at Utopia Planitia shipyards just before
Voyager's mission. Capt. Janeway comes aboard Voyager and tours it
with an Admiral as it is under going final preparations for its
mission. While touring the ship she runs into an ensign who is 7 of 9
and she's in regular Starfleet uniform without her cybernetic implants.
Act 1: Seven upon seeing Janeway ducks into a the Breifing Room. She
is in contact with Starfleet crew from the future (Lt. Ducane of the
Relativity). They are in search of a temporal disruptor. She reports
that so far she cannot find it. Soon Janeway and the Admiral enter
into the breifing room and asks 7 what she thought of the Briefing
room. 7, who is trying to avoid contact with Janeway, replies that it
is an efficient design. Seven leaves as she tries to avoid any
further contact with 7 of 9. Janeway and the Admiral continue the
tour which includes visiting the Doctor in his pre-warm-type-of-guy
days in the Delta quadrant. Meanwhile 7 is still trying to find the
temporal disruptor runs into Lt. Carey. He basically tries to pick
her up while she's working. He says that he would see her later and
she responds "Unlikely." In this scene she gives her name as Anna
Jameson. & moves off into a Jefferies tube where she locates a
temporal signature on deck 4 section 39. She removes panel and with
her Borg implants sees the temporal disruptor. She contacts Ducane
and informs him that she's found it but she can't deactivate it as it
is out of temporal phase. She's in the wrong timeframe. They know
where the weapon is but not when it was placed there.
Meanwhile Carey detects an offline EPS relay and Janeway and the
Admiral goes to investigate. through the same Jefferies tube that 7
is in. The hatch is locked. Janeway and the Admiral realize that
there must be an intruder when they detect a chronoton flux of .003
from inside the tube and they go on security alert. 7 realizes that
they have detected her but Relativity can't beam her out as she's too
close to the weapon. The Capt of the Relativity (Capt. Braxton, the
same from Season Three's "Future's End") then orders Ducane to beam
her out despite his warning that her bionetic implants can be damaged
and kill her. Her does it just as Janeway and the Admiral open the
tube hach from another location. 7 materializes on the Relativity but
then collapses and dies because of the damage to her implants.
Act 2: Braxton decides to "recruit" 7 again from the time line.
Ducane warns that this could harm her that she could suffer temporal
psychosis or neural damage. Braxton replies that she and all on
Voyager will be destroyed if they don't. They decide to go back to
the time just before Voyager is destroyed by the disruptor. The scene
now switches to the present. Paris challenges 7 to a game of ping
pong along with Kim and Torres. Meanwhile Janeway and a few members
of the crew are coming down with a case of space sickness (maybe
related to the temporal disruptor).
Later during the ping pong game, the ball mysteriously freezes in
mid-flight..there's a mystery to be investigates. This leads to the
discovery that Voyager is fracturing in time and space because of
temporal distortions. The cause is unknown but it is coming from deck
4 section 39 (the same location as in act 1). Janeway orders 7 and
Torres to investigate while Tuvok tries to reinforce the forcefields
to keep Voyager together. Torres and 7 locates the disruptor but hte
crew can't beam it off the ship. Just then the hull starts to
demolecularize and part of the ship "explodes" in a temporal
explosion. Kim detects the chronoton flux of .003 just as Ducane and
a couple of his men beam aboard Voyager to look for 7.
Meanwhile 7 and Tores try to escape the time distortions that are
engulfing the ship when Torres vanishes because of the temporal
effects of the disruptor. Janeway then realizes that the chronton
flux is exactly the same that she detected at the shipyard 5 years
ago and knows that it's not a coincidence. the effect becomes too
much and Janeway orders abandon ship. The ship is destroyed just as
Ducane and his men find 7 and transport her off Voyager.
Act 3: Braxton explains to 7 where she is (29th Century on board the
Fed. timeship Relativity) and why he needs her (to use her implants
to locate and destroy the device). He also reveals to her that she
had been recruited twice before and that she had met with
"accidents." They now know when the temporal disruptor was
placed...during a battle with the Kazon. The saboteur infiltrated
Voyager during the battle while the sheilds were down and the
internal sensors were off line and placed the disruptor. Braxton then
orders Ducane to prepare her for the mission and to educate her about
different time paradoxes (including a Dali Paradox, the Pogo Paradox
(7 talks about the example of this when the Enterprise goes back to
stop the Borg from interfering with Zephram Chchrane's flight in
"First Contact.") After a final breifing, Braxton transports her in
aStarfleet uniform and with her implants hidden to Voyager while the
ship is under attack by the Kazon.
Act 4: Voyager is under attack by the Kazon and there is much
confusion all around as 7 heads to engineering and to the location of
the disruptor. Kim detects the chronoton flux of .003 as 7 is beamed
abord. Janeway remembers when she saw that reading last, two years
ago in drydock. Meanwhile, 7 doesn't find the temporal disruptor nor
the saboteur but she lays a trap in the location that it's supposed
to be. Janeway orders a forcefield around the area that 7 is located.
Seven knows she's been detected and she's been cut off from Ducane
and the Relativity who can't get through to her. Janeway and security
locate 7 and immediately recognizes her as the ensign who called the
breifing room efficient. Janeway is very skepticle of 7's
explaination. Ducane and Braxton are listening in on the conversation
hoping that 7 would not reveal who and what she is. This would
corrupt the time line. Tuvok realizes that she's Borg. Finally 7
tells the entire truth about how she got there. At the same time
alarms go off on Relativity indicating that the time-line is corrupt
because of what 7 had said. Also the trap that 7 had set is sprung. 7
and Janeway go to investigate and discover that it's and aged Capt.
Braxton that has set the disruptor.
Act 5: Capt. Braxton is suffering from temporal psychosis and he
blames Capt. Janeway for it. that is why he is sabotaging Voyager. 7
tries to stop him but Braxton activates the disruptor and disappears.
Relativity tracks the older Braxton to Utopia Planitia and Relativity
sends 7 after him despite the risk to her life of multiple time
transports. 7 chases Braxton to Voyager at Utopia Planitia right past
Janeway and the Admiral. All this while Relativity is tracking
multiple time line corruptions as 7 is chasing the older Braxton. The
older Braxton time jumps again to present day Voyager. The younger
Braxton orders 7 to jump to that time despite that she's suffering
from temporal narcosis. The younger Braxton is starting to get
rattled by all the time jumps and the damage to the time line. 7 and
the older Braxton run through the earlier ping-pong game getting
everyone's attention including the present day 7. At this point time
travelling 7 is dying because of the time shifting she going through.
Time travelling 7 explains the situation to her present day counter
part and dies. The younger Braxton decides that Relativity must
intervene directly because of all the damage to the time line and to
the objections of Ducane who is begining to have deep misgivings
about Capt. Braxton's mental state.
Meanwhile Paris and Kim are chasing the older Braxton to the bridge.
Janeway recognizes him. The older Braxton accuses Janeway of beinga
threat to the timeline as 7 enters the bridge with a 29th Century
phaser. At this point Relativity appears from a temporal rift and
Capt. Braxton hails Voyager. The older Braxton tries to convince his
younger self to join him in destroying Voyager. Ducane then arrests
the younger Braxton for crimes that he will commit. The conflict is
resolved. Later Ducane reveals that he will take both Braxton's back
to the 29th Century to face the problems he had created. Relativity
leaves but not before Janeway asks if they would ever get back to
Earth...he reveals nothing. The epsiode ends with Janeway and 7
trying to figure out a time paradox which drives them nuts.
[My verdict: You thought The Fight was complicated? :) I'm not sure
I believe a word of this! OTOH, an ep with Captain Braxton, the
Kazon and no Kes? Could be another "non-Kes" rewrite of the past.
Kazon... I wonder if we'll see Seska? And the above doesn't explain
what happened to Cary... Is *any* of the above actually true?]
"Warhead"
US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.12
Written by ?. Directed by ?.
Forget the previous info for this episode, and in particular all
events involving the USS Equinox - events involving that ship happen
in the season finale, while corrected information for this episode is below:
Leonard of Warp 11 reports that “I just received an e-mail with some
interesting news on one of the final episodes of this
season from Robert Pearlman. This is supposedly from the mouth of
Robert Picardo, speaking at a NASA conference yesterday. He gave
details of a Voyager episode airing in about six weeks which he calls
the Bomb Show.”
“The reason I put the news here is because, between now and the
season's finale, there are only two Doctor episodes left
(that are confirmed by various sources). One of them is Someone to
Watch over Me and the other is this one.”
“Apparently, Voyager encounters two societies in war. When one sends
a "smart bomb" in the direction of the other "by
accident" it is left to Voyager to stop it before the other society
is destroyed. Complicating issues is the bomb, which is
"sentient" and feels it can only be satisfied if it blows up. Through
some discovery, Voyager learns they can implant the
personality of the bomb into the Doctor's subroutine's. The Doctor
becomes the voice of the bomb.”
“Picardo commented that while the episode was fun, he would rather
hold off playing a bomb again, as it tends to lead to
lines like "Do this or I will blow up!”
[My verdict: the Voyager rehash of Dr Strangelove...?!?!?!]
"Equinox"
US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.13
Written by ?. Directed by ?.
Season Finale
Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
previous episode, "Warhead". That is not the case. Events which
involve the USS Equinox happen in "Equinox". "Warhead" and the season
finale are completely separate stories.
Voyager runs into another Federation ship, The USS Equinox, that was
also pulled to the Delta quad by the Caretaker.
However, it is a science vessel with far fewer people on board, and
they have basically thrown the Prime Directive out the
window in order to find anyway possible to get home. Supposedly, they
have learned some way to harness energy from a
previously unseen alien race to power their ship to speed them home,
however the process kills the aliens - but the
science vessel crew doesn't care. The crew apparently removed the
docs ethical sub-routines so that he would figure out a
way to suck the juice out of the aliens. At some point the evil doc
gets switched with the good doc, but nobody knows it.
The Equinox (which is Nova Class and is crewed by Burke, Ransom, Noah
Lessing and Gilmore) is on the run from the
aliens who are appearing on the ship through fissures. The Equinox
encountered the Kazon at one point. Max Burke, the
First Officer, used to be B'Elanna's boyfriend at the academy and
gave her the nickname BLT. Tom becomes jealous of
Burke.
(Thanks to Sci-Fi World, Warp 11 & The Vulcan Cafe)
[My verdict: Believe all this or not, at your peril. If this is
true, the season finale with species 8472/a.n.other AOTW has
completely disappeared. Do we believe any of this?]
SJohnson
later.
Thanks for the spoilers, BTW...
SJohnson
SecMan
>"11.59"
> US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.4
> Written by Brannon Braga & Joe Menosky. Directed by ?.
video 5.4? That can't be right, more like 5.12
SecMan
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cav...@mixnmojo.com
415Man
sure...................
Directed by David Livingston
>
>
>A Janeway show, dealing with her family and her past. Also apparently
>deals with how history affects the present.
>
>Brannon Braga, in Star Trek: The Magazine, has been quoted as saying,
>"We're also going to be doing a millenium episode that takes place
>completely in the year 2000 on Earth, where we get to follow
>Janeway's distant, distant ancestor,
>great-great-great-great-great-grandmother. She will be played by Kate
>Mulgrew, and it will be a quintessential. Star Trek story told in
>contemporary times." (Thanks to Elim Garak & SolarFlare Forums)
>
>
>[My verdict: sounds *DREADFUL* !!!! And in any case, if it's a
>millenium ep, why are they showing it now? BTW, I thought this one
>was meant to be written by Mommie Dearest?!?]
I must concur with your analysis. Since I have already seen it, I can say
that it honestly gets my vote for the pantload of the season. It really
doesn't do much for me. A large portion of it does take place on earth
instead of the ship which is mildly interesting, but Janeways love interest
(Kevin Tighe - yeah, DeSoto from "Emergency") is old enough to be her
father........I don't know.....it bored the hell out of me. Yuck.
>"Relativity"
> US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.4
> Story by Nick Sagan. Teleplay by Bryan Fuller, Nick Sagan, and
>Michael Taylor. Directed by Allan
> Eastman.
>
>
>Seven of Nine is taken in to the past by 29th century Starfleet to
>disable a temporal time bomb that is hiding in Voyager's
>past. Her Borg implants allow her to find and disable the bomb which
>is hiding slightly out of phase with normal time. Starfleet takes
>Seven to a time when Voyager is still in drydocks over Earth. To
>conceal her identity, Seven has to wear a
> Starfleet uniform and must attempt to conceal her Borg implants.
>
>Neetz, Fan Club Coordinator of MAJC: The Official Josh Clark Fan
>Club, was kind enough to tell us that the rumors about
>Joe Carey's return in "Relativity" are absolutely true. Josh filmed
>his scenes (one of which was with with Jeri Ryan) on
>Thursday, February 18th.
>
>A source emailed TGL with full spoilers for this episode. Thanks to
>him/her. Enjoy:
>
>Teaser: Takes place at Utopia Planitia shipyards just before
>Voyager's mission. Capt. Janeway comes aboard Voyager and tours it
>with an Admiral as it is under going final preparations for its
>mission. While touring the ship she runs into an ensign who is 7 of 9
>and she's in regular Starfleet uniform without her cybernetic implants.
correct
She's DEAD Jim! - - - - This is also correct.
All correct except the "vanishing Torres" thing. I am not sure that scene
made it to the final cut. I could be wrong - - - Its been 3 weeks since I
saw the ep.
>
>Act 3: Braxton explains to 7 where she is (29th Century on board the
>Fed. timeship Relativity) and why he needs her (to use her implants
>to locate and destroy the device). He also reveals to her that she
>had been recruited twice before and that she had met with
>"accidents." They now know when the temporal disruptor was
>placed...during a battle with the Kazon. The saboteur infiltrated
>Voyager during the battle while the sheilds were down and the
>internal sensors were off line and placed the disruptor. Braxton then
>orders Ducane to prepare her for the mission and to educate her about
>different time paradoxes (including a Dali Paradox, the Pogo Paradox
>(7 talks about the example of this when the Enterprise goes back to
>stop the Borg from interfering with Zephram Chchrane's flight in
>"First Contact.") After a final breifing, Braxton transports her in
>aStarfleet uniform and with her implants hidden to Voyager while the
>ship is under attack by the Kazon.
correct
>
>Act 4: Voyager is under attack by the Kazon and there is much
>confusion all around as 7 heads to engineering and to the location of
>the disruptor. Kim detects the chronoton flux of .003 as 7 is beamed
>abord. Janeway remembers when she saw that reading last, two years
>ago in drydock. Meanwhile, 7 doesn't find the temporal disruptor nor
>the saboteur but she lays a trap in the location that it's supposed
>to be. Janeway orders a forcefield around the area that 7 is located.
>Seven knows she's been detected and she's been cut off from Ducane
>and the Relativity who can't get through to her. Janeway and security
>locate 7 and immediately recognizes her as the ensign who called the
>breifing room efficient. Janeway is very skepticle of 7's
>explaination. Ducane and Braxton are listening in on the conversation
>hoping that 7 would not reveal who and what she is. This would
>corrupt the time line. Tuvok realizes that she's Borg. Finally 7
>tells the entire truth about how she got there. At the same time
>alarms go off on Relativity indicating that the time-line is corrupt
>because of what 7 had said. Also the trap that 7 had set is sprung. 7
>and Janeway go to investigate and discover that it's and aged Capt.
>Braxton that has set the disruptor.
Incorrect. One thing that this "spoiler" does not mention is that there is
a HUGE conflict with Braxton and Janeway. Janeway doesnt realise it of
course, but she has screwed up the time line many times, and Braxton has had
to go in and fix it. Because of this, he LOATHES her, and has instructed 7
to have absolutely no contact with her because he says JW has no respect for
the time line. At any rate, continuing - - 7 does not set any "trap". When
her presence is detected, she tries to escape and is trapped by forcefields
which have sealed off that section. When confronted by JW and Tuvok, it
goes pretty much as stated above, with the exception of the trap. Instead,
7 tells JW the whole story (much to the dismay of a very cheesed-off
Braxton) and convinces her to let her go. The final push for JW to believe
comes when 7 tells her "when you liberate me from the Borg ing the future -
you will tell me that being human means learning to trust. So I am asking
you captain, to trust me now." or something like that. At any rate - Tuvok
releases the forcefields, and JW and 7 crawl down the Jefferies tube and
find Braxton placing the device.
>
>Act 5: Capt. Braxton is suffering from temporal psychosis and he
>blames Capt. Janeway for it. that is why he is sabotaging Voyager. 7
>tries to stop him but Braxton activates the disruptor and disappears.
>Relativity tracks the older Braxton to Utopia Planitia and Relativity
>sends 7 after him despite the risk to her life of multiple time
>transports.
Actually, they don't want 7 to go, but she demands to be sent after him in
order to save her ship
>7 chases Braxton to Voyager at Utopia Planitia right past
>Janeway and the Admiral. All this while Relativity is tracking
>multiple time line corruptions as 7 is chasing the older Braxton.
No mention of time line corruptions is made
>The
>older Braxton time jumps again to present day Voyager. The younger
>Braxton orders 7 to jump to that time despite that she's suffering
>from temporal narcosis. The younger Braxton is starting to get
>rattled by all the time jumps and the damage to the time line.
Actually, he is still reeling from the revelation that the sabateur is HIM.
Again, no mention of corruption of timeline.
>7 and
>the older Braxton run through the earlier ping-pong game getting
>everyone's attention including the present day 7. At this point time
>travelling 7 is dying because of the time shifting she going through.
>Time travelling 7 explains the situation to her present day counter
>part and dies.
Actually, she just says "you must stop him - your survival depends on it".
There is no explaination. Seven is fortunately smart enought to listen to
herself.
>The younger Braxton decides that Relativity must
>intervene directly because of all the damage to the time line and to
>the objections of Ducane who is begining to have deep misgivings
>about Capt. Braxton's mental state.
Not true. Doesn't happen. However, Ducane DOES place Braxton under arrest
for crimes he WILL commit in the future.
>
>Meanwhile Paris and Kim are chasing the older Braxton to the bridge.
>Janeway recognizes him. The older Braxton accuses Janeway of beinga
>threat to the timeline as 7 enters the bridge with a 29th Century
>phaser. At this point Relativity appears from a temporal rift and
>Capt. Braxton hails Voyager. The older Braxton tries to convince his
>younger self to join him in destroying Voyager. Ducane then arrests
>the younger Braxton for crimes that he will commit. The conflict is
>resolved. Later Ducane reveals that he will take both Braxton's back
>to the 29th Century to face the problems he had created. Relativity
>leaves but not before Janeway asks if they would ever get back to
>Earth...he reveals nothing.The epsiode ends with Janeway and 7
>trying to figure out a time paradox which drives them nuts.
>
>
>[My verdict: You thought The Fight was complicated? :) I'm not sure
>I believe a word of this! OTOH, an ep with Captain Braxton, the
>Kazon and no Kes? Could be another "non-Kes" rewrite of the past.
>Kazon... I wonder if we'll see Seska? And the above doesn't explain
>what happened to Cary... Is *any* of the above actually true?]
Its pretty close to correct with a few minor differences. To answer your
questions - No Seska, no Kes, and only the one brief appearance of Cary. As
for the episode - I really liked it. I like "back to the future" type
shows that make you think about the different ways the time line works. Its
one of my favorites this year.
>
>
>
>"Warhead"
> US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.12
> Written by ?. Directed by ?.
>
Directed by Kretchmer
Not 100% accurate. Actually Voy responds to an automated distress signal,
and it turns out to be the bomb. They do not attempt to download it into
the docs subroutines, they just try to give the intellegence a body. It
takes over the doc, holds Torres and Kim hostage, and threatens to destroy
the ship if JW doesnt help him complete his mission (blow up some alien
shit). Kim finds out that the launch was a mistake, but the bomb boy
doesnt want to hear about it. He just wants to blow up his target. I could
go on, but you get the idea. Not a bad ep, but nothing to run out and buy
either.
>
>[My verdict: the Voyager rehash of Dr Strangelove...?!?!?!]
>
>
>"Equinox"
> US Airdate ?. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.13
> Written by ?. Directed by ?.
Directed by David Livingston
>
>
>Season Finale
>
>Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
>previous episode, "Warhead". That is not the case. Events which
>involve the USS Equinox happen in "Equinox". "Warhead" and the season
>finale are completely separate stories.
>
>Voyager runs into another Federation ship, The USS Equinox, that was
>also pulled to the Delta quad by the Caretaker.
>However, it is a science vessel with far fewer people on board, and
>they have basically thrown the Prime Directive out the
>window in order to find anyway possible to get home. Supposedly, they
>have learned some way to harness energy from a
>previously unseen alien race to power their ship to speed them home,
>however the process kills the aliens - but the
>science vessel crew doesn't care. The crew apparently removed the
>docs ethical sub-routines so that he would figure out a
>way to suck the juice out of the aliens. At some point the evil doc
>gets switched with the good doc, but nobody knows it.
>
>The Equinox (which is Nova Class and is crewed by Burke, Ransom, Noah
>Lessing and Gilmore) is on the run from the
>aliens who are appearing on the ship through fissures. The Equinox
>encountered the Kazon at one point. Max Burke, the
>First Officer, used to be B'Elanna's boyfriend at the academy and
>gave her the nickname BLT. Tom becomes jealous of
>Burke.
This is essentially correct. However, they are doing some reshoots now, so
things may change a bit.
>
> (Thanks to Sci-Fi World, Warp 11 & The Vulcan Cafe)
>
>
>[My verdict: Believe all this or not, at your peril. If this is
>true, the season finale with species 8472/a.n.other AOTW has
>completely disappeared. Do we believe any of this?]
The whole rumor about 8472 being on the show was debunked weeks ago. I told
DM about this and he updated the Vulcan CAfe, and this NG. The new alien
DOES exist however, and the sounds for it are being designed while you read
this.
>
Dangermouse
415Man <ha...@qnet.com> wrote
(re Warhead)
> Not a bad ep, but nothing to run out and buy
> either.
But since it'll be on the same tape as the finale...
(re: Equinox)
> This is essentially correct. However, they are doing some reshoots now,
so
> things may change a bit.
I'm still squirming...
> The whole rumor about 8472 being on the show was debunked weeks ago.
Though to be fair, that was the original story...
--
"When two hunters go after the same prey they usually end up shooting each
other in the back - and we don't want to shoot each other in the back, do
we?"
Dangermouse
Therese Gray <tg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote
> "Warhead"
> US Airdate ?.
May 18th
> UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.12
5.13
> Written by ?. Directed by ?.
>
>
Dark Star, I think you'll find.
> "Equinox"
> US Airdate ?
May 25th
. UK CIC Video Release Date N/A, Volume 5.13
> Written by ?. Directed by ?.
>
>
> Season Finale
>
> Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
> previous episode, "Warhead". That is not the case. Events which
> involve the USS Equinox happen in "Equinox". "Warhead" and the season
> finale are completely separate stories.
>
> Voyager runs into another Federation ship, The USS Equinox, that was
> also pulled to the Delta quad by the Caretaker.
> However, it is a science vessel with far fewer people on board, and
> they have basically thrown the Prime Directive out the
> window in order to find anyway possible to get home. Supposedly, they
> have learned some way to harness energy from a
> previously unseen alien race to power their ship to speed them home,
> however the process kills the aliens - but the
> science vessel crew doesn't care. The crew apparently removed the
> docs ethical sub-routines so that he would figure out a
> way to suck the juice out of the aliens. At some point the evil doc
> gets switched with the good doc, but nobody knows it.
I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very similar
to the previous episode.
> The Equinox (which is Nova Class and is crewed by Burke, Ransom, Noah
> Lessing and Gilmore) is on the run from the
> aliens who are appearing on the ship through fissures. The Equinox
> encountered the Kazon at one point. Max Burke, the
> First Officer, used to be B'Elanna's boyfriend at the academy and
> gave her the nickname BLT. Tom becomes jealous of
> Burke.
> [My verdict: Believe all this or not, at your peril. If this is
> true, the season finale with species 8472/a.n.other AOTW has
> completely disappeared. Do we believe any of this?]
Yes. There will not now be an 8472 finale.
Sorry <cringes with guilt>
415Man
Dangermouse wrote in message <01be86a1$f889f540$LocalHost@lgwujvnl>...
>> Season Finale
>>
>> Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
<snip>>
>I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very similar
>to the previous episode.
I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
415Man
Dangermouse wrote in message <01be86a2$8edfad00$LocalHost@lgwujvnl>...
>
>>> The whole rumor about 8472 being on the show was debunked weeks ago.
>
>
Sorry - didn't mean to insinuate otherwise. It was posted as being the
current scoop, and was just pointing out that you and I had already made
that clarification.
Therese Gray
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> Dangermouse wrote in message <01be86a1$f889f540$LocalHost@lgwujvnl>...
> >> Season Finale
> >>
> >> Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
> <snip>>
> >I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very similar
> >to the previous episode.
> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra scenes?
DBR
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>The message <37157...@news.qnet.com>
> from "415Man" <ha...@qnet.com> contains these words:
>
>
>
>> Dangermouse wrote in message <01be86a1$f889f540$LocalHost@lgwujvnl>...
>
>> >>
>> >> Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
>
>
>
>> >I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very
similar
>> >to the previous episode.
>
>
>> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
>> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
>
>
>
>How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
>doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra
scenes?
>
>
>
Perhaps there are a bunch of different scenes already filmed, and TPTB just
choose the best ones.
Dangermouse
415Man <ha...@qnet.com> wrote
> >I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very
similar
> >to the previous episode.
>
>
> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
That's what I gathered...
Dangermouse
DBR <ass...@finalfrontier.com> wrote
> >> >I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very
> similar
> >> >to the previous episode.
> >
> >> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
> >> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
> >
> >How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
> >doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra
> scenes?
>
> Perhaps there are a bunch of different scenes already filmed, and TPTB
just
> choose the best ones.
A mixture of both your suggestions - and since it's replacing a subplot,
all they really need do is round up whoever's still in town and write them
some new scenes. (In this case I think it's Robbie who's got the extra
bits, for the most part)
415Man
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>The message <37157...@news.qnet.com>
> from "415Man" <ha...@qnet.com> contains these words:
>
>
>
>> Dangermouse wrote in message <01be86a1$f889f540$LocalHost@lgwujvnl>...
>
>> >>
>> >> Previously, TGL reported that some of the events below happen in the
>
>
>
>> >I have my doubts about this subplot remaining, since it'd be very
similar
>> >to the previous episode.
>
>
>> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
>> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
>
>
>
>How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
>doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra
scenes?
Well, not really. The writers are all back, scribbling like mad trying to
tie up all the loose ends. In addition to the dumping of the B plot, the
show is about 5 mins short. So, the writers are currently trying to write
scenes based on the actors that are available. Most are out of the country,
so they have to use the others. I am not sure who all is around right now.
I know Jeri is, because we just looped her for 217 this past week. I think
Bob Picardo is in town, and Robbie also. I'm not sure who else is
available. It should be interesting.
Therese Gray
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> Therese Gray wrote in message <199904150...@zetnet.co.uk>...
> >The message <37157...@news.qnet.com>
> > from "415Man" <ha...@qnet.com> contains these words:
> >
> >
> >> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
> >> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
> >
> >
> >How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
> >doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra
> scenes?
> Well, not really. The writers are all back, scribbling like mad trying to
> tie up all the loose ends. In addition to the dumping of the B plot, the
> show is about 5 mins short. So, the writers are currently trying to write
> scenes based on the actors that are available. Most are out of the country,
> so they have to use the others. I am not sure who all is around right now.
> I know Jeri is, because we just looped her for 217 this past week.
Looped her for 217....? Sounds painful! :)
> I think
> Bob Picardo is in town, and Robbie also. I'm not sure who else is
> available. It should be interesting.
Do they get paid extra for turning up during their holidays?
415Man
>> >
>> >
>> >> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
>> >> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
>> >
>> >
>> >How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
>> >doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra
>> scenes?
>
>
>> Well, not really. The writers are all back, scribbling like mad trying
to
>> tie up all the loose ends. In addition to the dumping of the B plot, the
>> show is about 5 mins short. So, the writers are currently trying to
write
>> scenes based on the actors that are available. Most are out of the
country,
>> so they have to use the others. I am not sure who all is around right
now.
>> I know Jeri is, because we just looped her for 217 this past week.
>
>
>Looped her for 217....? Sounds painful! :)
Looping is usually painful for all involved. Major pain in the rear. I
also stand corrected. I heard Jeri is now out of town, and it looks as
though Robbie, Beltran and the Doc may taking up the slack.
>
>
>> I think
>> Bob Picardo is in town, and Robbie also. I'm not sure who else is
>> available. It should be interesting.
>
>
>Do they get paid extra for turning up during their holidays?
I do not know. But I would think not - -its all part of the game.
Therese Gray
from "415Man" <ha...@qnet.com> contains these words:
> >> > from "415Man" <ha...@qnet.com> contains these words:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I believe this is now correct. I heard today that the B plot is being
> >> >> dumped, and that there is quite a bit of revision going on right now.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >How does that work? If the actors are all over the US and Europe
> >> >doing conventions and so-on, do they get called back to do these extra
> >> scenes?
> >
> >
> >> Well, not really. The writers are all back, scribbling like mad trying
> to
> >> tie up all the loose ends. In addition to the dumping of the B plot, the
> >> show is about 5 mins short. So, the writers are currently trying to
> write
> >> scenes based on the actors that are available. Most are out of the
> country,
> >> so they have to use the others. I am not sure who all is around right
> now.
> >> I know Jeri is, because we just looped her for 217 this past week.
> >
> >
> >Looped her for 217....? Sounds painful! :)
> Looping is usually painful for all involved.
So what is "looping"? :)
> Major pain in the rear. I
> also stand corrected. I heard Jeri is now out of town, and it looks as
> though Robbie, Beltran and the Doc may taking up the slack.
Oooo! Goodie! All the Roberts. Excellent! :)
Dangermouse
415Man <ha...@qnet.com> wrote
> Looping is usually painful for all involved. Major pain in the rear. I
> also stand corrected. I heard Jeri is now out of town, and it looks as
> though Robbie, Beltran and the Doc may taking up the slack.
I gather it's Robbie who's getting most of the extra - what with Tom's
jealousy of B'Elanna's ex, it would seem a reasonable assumption...
Dangermouse
Therese Gray <tg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote
> So what is "looping"? :)
Rerecording dialogue, usually - for example to get a clearer sound if there
was too much extraneous noise on the set, or the microphone was originally
too far away to get a broadcastable quality pickup.