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Jeri Ryan to have breast reduction surgery

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Chuck in Minot

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Jan 11, 2001, 5:28:10 PM1/11/01
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(AP) CNN
Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000 has
announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to some
minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been given.


Mildred Perkins

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Jan 11, 2001, 3:33:02 PM1/11/01
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Chuck in Minot wrote:

Isn't this announcement supposed to be shrouded in black? You know...in
mourning? ;-)


J T Kirk

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Jan 11, 2001, 3:44:57 PM1/11/01
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Chuck in Minot <auto...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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My God, must be a painfully slow newsday.
JT Kirk


Michele

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Jan 11, 2001, 3:45:53 PM1/11/01
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You know if she wore something else she wouldnt have the
problem.

andr...@my-deja.com

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:20:43 PM1/11/01
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Sheesh. You going to announce when Patrick Stewart has his prostate
surgery too.


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Mildred Perkins

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:41:50 PM1/11/01
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Michele wrote:

> > > (AP) CNN
> > > Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000 has
> > > announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to some
> > > minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been given.

> You know if she wore something else she wouldnt have the
> problem.

You mean the catsuit? (Note: I don't like the catsuit.) It doesn't matter what
kind of clothing a woman wears in regard to being top heavy. I've got a couple of
cousins who've dealt with that problem, which is about the stress on the back and
shoulders from too much mammary gland up front. Sometimes a woman can try all the
special bras, etc. and still have related shoulder and back problems, and then
reduction is the only remaining choice.


Julianna Feigl

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:40:43 PM1/11/01
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I think she meant the heels... They *do* influence the back, among
other things...

Julianna
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The main reason to watch Voyager!

Michele

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:37:57 PM1/11/01
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SHe isnt that big on top, I have seen photos, she is as
small as I am.

Mildred Perkins

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:49:17 PM1/11/01
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Michele wrote:

> Sometimes a woman can try all the
> > special bras, etc. and still have related shoulder and back problems, and then
> > reduction is the only remaining choice.
>
> SHe isnt that big on top, I have seen photos, she is as
> small as I am.

She certainly isn't as big as the catsuit implies. Preternaturally perky is the phrase
that comes to mind.


Mildred Perkins

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:50:39 PM1/11/01
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Julianna Feigl wrote:

> >> You know if she wore something else she wouldnt have the
> >> problem.
> >
> >You mean the catsuit?
>

> I think she meant the heels... They *do* influence the back, among
> other things...
>
> Julianna

Oh. Duh. I wasn't even thinking about the heels, which would throw me into traction
if I tried wearing them for five minutes.

Shammie

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:51:17 PM1/11/01
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>From: Mildred Perkins

>Oh. Duh. I wasn't even thinking about the heels, which would throw me into
>traction
>if I tried wearing them for five minutes.
>
>

Well, you're not suppsed to *walk* in them, silly, they're only good for sex.


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Wickeddoll

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:56:14 PM1/11/01
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"Mildred Perkins" <mlpe...@indiana.edu> wrote in message
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I don't buy it Mildred. She's only about a C cup. The rest is clothing
effects. I think this is bogus.

Natalie


J T Kirk

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Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message
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Foot Fetishes not included, how do high heels help sex?


J T Kirk

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Jan 11, 2001, 5:09:47 PM1/11/01
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> I don't buy it Mildred. She's only about a C cup. The rest is clothing
> effects. I think this is bogus.
>
> Natalie
>
I'm with you Natalie, this looks bogus. Cnn.com had nothing on it. It
looks like a rumour to spark interest in a show.


Wickeddoll

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"Shammie" <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message
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Yup, CFMPs - 'come f*ck me pumps'

Natalie, who's going to be wearing those later tonight...


Shammie

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Jan 11, 2001, 5:16:05 PM1/11/01
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>From: "J T Kirk"

>Foot Fetishes not included, how do high heels help sex?
>

Um...see Wickeddoll's answer...


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Wickeddoll

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Jan 11, 2001, 4:55:16 PM1/11/01
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"Chuck in Minot" <auto...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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I find this very hard to believe. As someone who as actually had the
surgery, I have to say I don't think Ryan meets the criteria.

I think this is a joke

Natalie


Julianna Feigl

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Jan 11, 2001, 5:21:01 PM1/11/01
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me too.

Shammie

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Jan 11, 2001, 5:35:01 PM1/11/01
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>From: "Wickeddoll"

>I think this is a joke

Bogus


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J T Kirk

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Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message
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> >From: "J T Kirk"
>
> >Foot Fetishes not included, how do high heels help sex?
> >
>
> Um...see Wickeddoll's answer...
>
I did. I see. I'm lonely.


Bill Crawford

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Jan 11, 2001, 6:52:28 PM1/11/01
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...afterwards, Bob (not you, Bob, the other one) shall serve juice.

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awes...@my-deja.com

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Jan 11, 2001, 6:50:23 PM1/11/01
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Reality Check Here:

I am a 36C-D, depending on how much holiday food I eat, and I am shorter
than Jeri Ryan. She looks to be around that size, and I can tell you
that I have no medical problems with my back. Unless she has a medical
condition like scoleosis or spinal damage, she shouldn't either. I also
doubt very much that she would announce this to the media. Not to be
a wet blanket, but I am just trying to save the hormone ridden psyches
of the fairer sex on this board. I hate seeing men cry.

Best,

Ang

J T Kirk

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Jan 11, 2001, 7:06:49 PM1/11/01
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> > >
> > I did. I see. I'm lonely.
> >
>
> If it helps, I don't find high heels a turn-on... I'm always wondering how
> the hell anyone is supposed to walk wearing those things <g>
>
> --
Thanks. But I am still Lonely. I need a hug.


Freeyoremind

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Jan 11, 2001, 6:44:35 PM1/11/01
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Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl>

> >From: "Wickeddoll"
>
> >I think this is a joke
>
> Bogus

I'm no doctor and I certainly won't mind if she doesn't have surgery, but
honestly, she does look a little off balance. I have this beautiful topless
picture of her from Dracula 2000 which proves they are quite big.

For those interested I'll post it on alt.fan.jeri-ryan.

Josh


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Benji, Devil With The Black Dress On

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Wickeddoll <wicke...@nofeckingspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Agreed. Not only is the story false, but I agree with your statement
about the clothing. When you see her in other clothes, the fact that the
catsuit is enhanced becomes quite obvious. She looks like a completely
different person when in normal clothing.

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Jan 11, 2001, 7:51:33 PM1/11/01
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Bullshit.

PeterTHX

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"Wickeddoll" <wicke...@nofeckingspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Think Pamela Anderson getting her implants reduced. Same thing with Jeri.


PeterTHX

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"Chuck in Minot" <auto...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> (AP) CNN
> Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000 has
> announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to some
> minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been given.
>

So, she's having her implants taken out, a la Pamela Anderson Lee.

Before anyone pops in and says "But they're real", no, they are not.


d_ketchum

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Jan 11, 2001, 8:32:54 PM1/11/01
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I don't know. I feel much better after my johnson reduction surgery.
You'd hardly know it was there anymore.

JungFrau

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>>
>> Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message
>> > >From: "J T Kirk"
>> >
>> > >Foot Fetishes not included, how do high heels help sex?
>> >
>> > Um...see Wickeddoll's answer...
>> >
>> I did. I see. I'm lonely.
>>
>
>If it helps, I don't find high heels a turn-on... I'm always wondering how
>the hell anyone is supposed to walk wearing those things <g>

I love you EB! <big hug>

F. (hates heels)

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Bozo the Evil Klown

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Jan 11, 2001, 10:26:23 PM1/11/01
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>> > (AP) CNN
>> > Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000 has
>> > announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to some
>> > minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been
>given.
>> >
>> My God, must be a painfully slow newsday.
>> JT Kirk

>
>You know if she wore something else she wouldnt have the
>problem.

***IF*** she's having any back pain, maybe they shouldn't use hydraulic
machinery to squeeze her corset on?

*****
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thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible
things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?"

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Jan 11, 2001, 10:48:46 PM1/11/01
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Mildred Perkins <mlpe...@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Michele wrote:
>
> > > > (AP) CNN
> > > > Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula
2000 has
> > > > announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due
to some
> > > > minor medical problems with her back. No further details have
been given.
>
> > You know if she wore something else she wouldnt have the
> > problem.
>
> You mean the catsuit? (Note: I don't like the catsuit.) It doesn't
matter what
> kind of clothing a woman wears in regard to being top heavy.

Incorrect. Many large breasted women have stated that the type of
bra worn makes a great deal of difference. Engeneers have confirmed
this. The bras for moderately large breasted women as available in
standard stores are not only vastly overpriced, but they are poorly
designed. Bras for more large breasted women are unavailable in stores
that common stores.

Scaling up the size of items always requires a change in the structure.
Engeneers, biologists, mathematicians are fully familiar with this,
since it is ubiquitous and significant in both the natural and the
artificial world, and is the direct result of the the dimensional
difference between volume and surface (three vs two dimensions). For
instance, it is said that an ant, if it were the size of man, could
lift a car, but this is bogus, in fact, given its structure, an
ant the size of a man would not be able to lift its own weight, wile
conversely, a man the size of an ant would be so strong compared to
his structure that his own muscles would tear his body apart. Muscular
fiber strenght scales up with the second power of the scale, while
volume scales up with the third power.

Are the people who design, manufacture, and sell bras to the public
incredibly ignorant, so very uneducated that they do not indeed grasp
this most basic of all design principles? Hardly. Why would these
people be so blatantly ignorant...that is not at all logical. Therefore,
assuming that they have the full knowledge of this, as is most probable,
we are lead to conclude that the designers and the manufacturers and
the retailers of large bras are pretending that they are ignorant.
They can get away with this pretense because much of the public,
especially the American public that is not even provided with the
basic essentials of education, simple math for instance, would not
notice.

Further observation shows that the industrial ignorance is not confined
to bras for large breasted women, but in fact it extends to all aspects
of large breasted women. That is, it is clear from observation of
this aspect of American society that bigotry or prejudice toward large
breasted women is built into many other aspects of the high level
economic infrastructure in America. This prejudice is manifest by
not providing any support for large breasted women (except in *only
one* area: breast reductions). Why would this be?
Read on..

> I've got
a couple of
> cousins who've dealt with that problem, which is about the stress on

the back and
> shoulders from too much mammary gland up front.

The theory that big breasts, as they would occur naturally in a
population, are the actual cause of back troubles existed as folk
tale prior to the time that the plastic surgery industry discovered
that they could make a tremendous amount of easy money performing
breast reduction surgeries. Their tactic was to declare too large
breasts as a medical condition, starting by naming it with a medical
name. By doing so, two tremendous things could be accomplished, and
indeed, this practice has proven very successful. The first major
thing accomplished in the sale of breast reductions is to enlist
the common doctor as a powerful promotor of breast reduction surgery
for the plastic surgeons, who are a subset of the medical industry
and generally members of full standing in accredited and power medical
organizations. The great value of this is that everyone in America
trusts doctors and their opinion...this is called power of authority.
No one remembers various epidemics of doctor generated disease,
disability, and surgery for profits that the entire medical system
has promulgated upon Americans in the to them distant past. Doctors
in America have a tremendous power of authority...they are aptly
described as the high priests of American society.

Apart from convincing the American masses who do not know better,
the power of authority of doctors serves a very significant
institutional function when it comes to financing the surgery. The
American insurance establishments, as well as the American government
and the American legal institutions all tend to accept the preeminent
power of authority of the doctors. In other words, if the doctors
say it needs to be done, the insurance companies will supply the
funds. Note, in the case of breast reduction, this essentially
means that the patient herself, or himself (it applies to male
breast reductions as well) does not have to pay for it. In other
words...as far as breast reduction in the US goes, its basicly
free to whoever wants it and can get a single doctor to okay it...
getting a single doctor to okay it is of course about the easiest
thing in the world, and only a complete braindead person would fail
to get a doctor to approve a breast reduction. Now, we have to
ask, does the fact that breast reduction is free have anything
to do with promoting it? Ask yourself, if breast implants were
free to anyone that was not a DD-cup, do you think that this
fact would lead to an increase in breast implantations? Er...most
definitely yes.

But apart from the supreme power of authority of doctors, there
is another major factor relating to the doctor promotions. There
is the element of pity. So what we have is situations were breast
reduction causes ten to twenty times the number of deformities as
breast augmentations, it is now the major source of breastfeeding
disability in the US (current breast reductions have doubled, at
least, the breastfeeding disability rate in the overal US population),
and twice as many (thanks to doctor promotions) girls under 18
get reduction than do implants, and yet people let the reductions
slide, as if they were necessary.


> Sometimes a woman can
try all the
> special bras, etc. and still have related shoulder and back problems,
and then
> reduction is the only remaining choice.

Incorrect, incorrect, incorrect.

There is no scientific evidence that large bras cause back and
shoulder problems. Does this come as a shock to people?...well,
yeah, especially if you live in a fully breast reduced state,
like Indiana. The strenght of this belief is of course proportional
to the success of the plastic surgeons in exploiting a given population.
Specificly, degree to which people are going to believe this relates
to the percapita breast reduction profits of the population that
is involved. However, it also relates to the overal wealth per capita
of the plastic surgeons in the given population in general, since
like any industry, they will act to promote all their products in
proportion to the degree of profits they have available to direct
toward promotions.

(Over the last three years i have never seen it to fail...the
more money they make nation wide on breast implants, the more
propaganda they promote for breast reductions, encouraging
in the process all social factors that encourage the labeling
bigotry, and lack of social support for all large breasted
women, in proportion to the size of their breasts. Meanwhile,
in three years of newsgroup discussions and tons of common
breast reduction shills, I have never seen any woman on Usenet
complaining about the size of her *fake* breasts, as if somehow
breast implants were not subject to the same laws of gravity)

The major plastic surgeon breast reduction industry occurred just
after the silicone plastic surgery profit losses in 1991 (Soleil,
Drew, Kim, Ricky Lake, Roseanne, Whoopi, etc.). Prior to that
time, there were only a few American states (such as Indiana) that
the plastic surgery industry had exploited (in Indiana, its the
whites, not the blacks that were mutilated by this surgery early
on). The major mass mutilations and deformities (primarily of
caucasion women, mostly overweight types) of states (such as
the Dakotas, Virginia, and many others) took place after the
celebrity breast reduction shills. Since that time, breast reduction,
not breast implants, have been the major money maker for the plastic
surgery industry...each year in America, breast reduction has pulled
more annual profits than breast implants, inspite of managing to
convince people that most of the women (evidently outnumbering the
number of small breasted or flatchested women) reduced were for
medical reasons. An interesting thing is that we have an industry
that is attempting to get major blood out of a turnup...inspite
of the fact that large breasted women are actually much fewer
in number than small breasted women, we have the breast reduction
industry actually succeeding in breast reducing as many women as
they are augmenting. Mathematically, this is an impossible situation,
and fully explains why the mass mutilations of population groups
has occurred, and how it occurred so rapidly. Think of two tanks,
but one is ten times smaller than the other, yet you have a leak
in both of them at exactly the same rate...obviously, the tank
that is ten times as small will completely empty itself ten times
faster. Given any group, the mass effect of the breast reduction
industry acting without any constraints will mathematically and
inevitably alter that group many, many, many times faster than
will breast augmentation on any given group. Hence, the mass mutilations
and induced deformities, such as what happened early on in the
white population of Indiana were able to create artificial changes
at a blinding rate. These exploitations were highly effective, and
all of this is well confirmed by the statistics of breast reduction
and augmentation (which don't report all of the breast reductions,
since many are done by non Plastic surgeons). They are also confirmed
by anyone who might want to observe the overal populations. For
instance, in some states, the fact that the breast reductions primarily
afflicted white women were able to rapidly create major changes in
what appeared to be normal...for instance, one could observe that
there is a major difference in figural beauty between the blacks
and the whites (not genetic, but entirely iatrogenic, ie, induced
by plastic surgeons, who are usually doctors) that would evolve in
a mere three or less years...one could see that the smaller Asian
population always now had larger largest breasts than the corresponding
white population, etc. The breast reduction, early in the nineties,
literaly swept thru and rapidly gutted populations. Since breast
reduction is now mainly done on women who have body fat problems,
most of the breast reductions are now overweight, and body fat
acts like a stain to totally bring out all breast reduction deformities.
These populations that were rapidly gutted by the breast reduction
doctors thus experienced a dramatic multiplication of she male type
body types...this is the major body type that was hit, because
women with these body types, boyish, squarish, big chested, and
big breasts...tended to have naturally the largest breasts...they
were all turned into she male types without big breasts...just fat
bodies with a major fat concentration on the top, big backs, and
fat arms, face, backs, sloppy squarish asses and bird like legs
like sticks supporting potatoes but smallish breasts that were similar
in
size to what one might see on a male of similar build. These she
males multiplied enormously. The natural body types, built the
way they were supposed to be, these figures were destroyed, and
the surgeons informed them that they would be more attractive for
it...something they believed, incredibly. So these natural body
types were actually considered attractive before, but they were
eliminated, meaning that not only was a form of uglyness multiplied,
but a variety of female beauty was virtually deleted...another
variety of beauty that was completely deleted from these groups
were the hourglass figures that were overweight to some degree...science
says that the hourglass figure is the most desired by the males
of all ages...it is the major form of female beauty...this major
form of female beauty was deleted in breast reduction controlled
territories...it happened very, very fast...so nearly overnight,
the beauty of the groups were radically reduced and the uglyness
of the women were greatly increased, causing the entire group
to look insipid and undesirable, as is seen now, in the US, were
the body beauty of the caucasion women (gutted by breast reductions)
is vastly exceeded by the figure beauty of black women (not so
gutted by reductions) or, for that matter, by virtually any other
race.

The increase in annectdotal tales that back troubles are caused
by large breasts is to be expected, and it does indeed increase
in proportion to the number of plastic surgeons that are there
to promulgate this belief. People know what they sense, or feel,
but they do not logically know what causes it. For instance,
people see the sun rise and set every day, and of course they
assigned causation to this observation...until science corrected
it, they thought that the sun revolved around the earth. In the
case of breasts, a large breasted woman may carry herself incorrectly
for her body structure. It is not the breasts that cause the
back problems, it is her posture. Perhaps we could even say that
it is her psychological reaction to her breasts that cause her
to carry herself incorrectly for being large breasted, perhaps
she slouched to try to hide her breasts. The cause of her
problem is incorrect posture...if a large breasted woman has
the posture of a small breasted woman, she will get back troubles,
but if a small breasted woman were to have the posture that is
proper to the large breasted woman, then it would be the smaller
breasted woman that has the back troubles. The cause would be
inappropriate posture, but the woman is experiencing back troubles,
and she may think that she knows the cause, but logically she
does not. It is very easy for her to attribute her big breasts
as the cause. It is very easy for a industry that makes a lot
of money to encourage her...for instance, if the woman hates
her breast size for other reasons, then she is very likely to
believe that the breasts cause this. To the degree that women
are lead to hate their big breasts for any reason, to that degree
they can be easily swayed to blame their big breasts for back
troubles that may actually be caused by inadequate posture, or
by an apriori condition, or by apriori probability (ninety percent
of all humans regardless of breast size will get back problems),
or inadequate bras, or inadequate exercise or care of her unique
body type. In societies gutted by breast reduction surgeons, women
are also lead to get back problems, or to openly lie about it,
by the simple fact that, if they claim back problems, amputation
of most of their hated breasts is easy and free, while if they
fail to make this statement, the insurance payments are denied.
These statements can then be incorporated into statistics, thus
creating a self fulfilling argument, enabling them to use the
statistics to confirm the claims. These types of circular arguments
are easy as pie in circumstances were breast reduction, or any
other form of medically spin supported surgery on the masses for
surgical profits scams, have been going on for a decade, as is
the case now. The mere fact that the theory of back pain caused
by big breasts has been repeated so much that it is accepted as
true will also contribute to its apparent reality...the psychology
of suggestion (such as hypnosis) and the subconscious has been
well confirmed for nearly a century now, and medical authorities
have considerable evidence that placebo surgeries are often more
effective than the real surgeries. Breast reduction, btw, is also
considered a wonderful placebo surgery, which helps account for
why alt.med.fibromyalgia has been the biggest hangout of breast
reduction shills for over a two years now, and why the plastic
surgery industry makes a dandy little profit with "medical specialists"
pushing breast reduction on fibromyalgic sufferers. (A while ago
they came out with a study that related fibromyalgia to plastic
surgery statistics and they were completely confounded as to
why they got those results...its explained by the simple fact
that fibromyalgic women are essentially a breast reduction surgeon
harvesting ground).

In case you doubt this, let me assure you, scientists other than
myself have already published these observations on breast reduction.
In particular:

1) The PS funded studies "proving" causation of back pain by large
breasts were analyzed and shown to be totally unscientific. They
routinely, regularly, and always with the intention of proving
the pre assumption, violated the major protocals of scientific
methodology. Violation is something that is not done in science,
the methodologies, such as the consideration of more probable or
as probable alternatives (eg, the role of posture in causing back
troubles), the analysis of apriori probabilities, and the proper
use of controls is something that is not done in science, because
the point of science, not religion, not politics, not propaganda,
is to be as objective as possible.

2) There is no scientific evidence of the theory. Of course there
is annectdotal tales...these are not scientific evidence (see above).

3) The theory has a great deal of evidence against it, arising
from numerous areas. For instance, the claim that big breasts
should so commonly violate overal body physiology and structure
tends to contradict genetics, entemology, and anthropological
evidence. In reality, organisms develop as wholes...they are
not constructed from individual parts, as humans might conceive
in the beliefs. Even isolated traits, which are rare (such as
eye color) arise from genetic factors that by nature influence
the entire body...systems in the body do not spontaneously and
commonly mismatch...we usually don't get eyeballs without retinas,
or a right wing that does not match the left. By simple evolution
fundamentals, breast size will be matched with other body traits
that work with it...large breasts are actually a characteristic
of all body parts that work with it...the backs, for instance,
will tend to match the breasts. Naturally, modern Plastic Surgery
breast reduction propaganda, highly successful as it is, not
only completely ignores this, but attempts to convey the opposite...
the result is of course a huge number of mutilations, because
after the surgery, the breasts no longer match the body, and
it is obvious to the point of deformity, as I talked about in
the case of whites in states like Indiana and other groups that
have been strip mined by this industrial human pollution.

4) Although there is a no statistical evidence that big breasts
cause back troubles, there is a lot of statistical evidence that
plastic surgeons cause back troubles. Populations that are
observed to have large breasts present (because they do not
have a lot of plastic surgeons) will report many times less
back pain/big breast complaints, while populations with relatively
much smaller maximum breast sizes (due of course to the intervention
of plastic surgeons) will report many times the number of big
breast back troubles. As the staticisions report...the groups
with the biggest breasts have fewer complaints by far. Plastic
surgeons, according to the evidence, are the ones who are actually
causing the back troubles, as explained above, not the big
breasts. I have myself reported on the numerous ways in which
plastic surgeons actually cause the diseases that they claim to
ameliorate. Unfortunately, since they make three times as much
money as box office movies, they can pay off people to keep this
secret.

For the record, let me say, that the plastic surgeons are actually
the augmenters of ugliness, not beauty, in overal populations.

As a last note, for all the shills out there who will argue with
me by calling me names (note, they can never argue this point
on logic or science or reason, so they must resort to argumentum
ad hominems) the apriori probability that any given person who
spontaneously spouts probreastreduction antibigbreast propaganda
on Usenet is actually a plastic surgeon (a breast reduction shill)
seeking to connect with customers (who need only be motivated and
their insurance will make it free to them) is over fifty percent.
In other words, if some woman on any newsgroup who says she (or
her friends or relatives) had this and its great, then she is
prolly a man out to make seven thousand dollars of easy profit
for every single customer he snags. I have proof of this, but
I won't get into it. Contact the lawyers...the doctors will be
sued for their part, and they will be ultimately quite happy to
fink on the plastic surgeons, many of whom will provide a record
on Usenet as they attempt to annonymously pass themselves off
as "regular women".

And the plastic surgeons will be sued until their guts fall out.
All that is asked is that they sacrifice a mere one thousanth
of a gram of their primary or secondary reproductive tissues
for each gram they extracted from womens "mammary tissues". That
is more than fair, far, far, far, far, more than fair.

spect...@my-deja.com

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In article <8Zp76.3885$bE4.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
"Wickeddoll" <wicke...@nofeckingspamhotmail.com> wrote:
>

Omigosh, someone on the Usenet who says they got a breast reduction,
and they are actually telling the truth. Guess it happens once
in awhile.

Yeah. The post that started this thread has got to be bogus. They are
trying to get the breast reduction
shills and the breast reduction nazis to fight it out on the
newsgroup.

Is it working yet?

Jeri Ryan would have to be a total fool to get this done. The
only breast reduction recipient that is a "sex symbol" that I know
of is Drew Barrymore. But the only reason why Drew Barrymore is
called a hottie is because the magazines and stuff try to tell
us this. I have not seen or known any men that considered Drew
sexy in reality. Her presence on Charlies Angels the movie did
not generate any male interest, at least nothing at all on Usenet.

Jeri Ryans position as a celebrity is currently so precarious that
if she got the breast reduction she would be dead to the public
eye in six months. All she ever did was Voyager...and now, a trivial
movie of little consequence. People who really don't have any
assets to speak of should not give them away as if they had anything
to sacrifice. The only person I ever heard of that got anywhere
by giving up his assets was Guatama Buddha...thousands of years ago.
Jeri Ryan could not conceivably be such an idiot.

This does have a history. Bogus news flashes like this, if picked
up by the tabloids, can actually harm Ryan's career. Two cases in
point: Christina Ricci and Jennifer Love Hewitt. Two years ago
the tabloids and tv came out with the same story about Christina
Ricci...that she said that she was planning a breast reduction.
Coincidently, Ricci's career plummeted suddenly just afterward,
not that she realized it, artsy fartsy actress that she is. She
was on the skids until Sleepy Hollow revived it...then the tabloids
came out with the news that she likes to maim herself masochisticly,
and off to the skids she went again. On the other hand, Jennifer
Love Hewitt actually did get a breast reduction, but it was the
natural kind, what comes from weight loss in her case. Prior to
the time, JLH was a swiftly rising star, as popular on the internet
as Pamela Anderson...and that made her an online superstar. But
after natural breast reduction, she progressively sank...right
thru the second scary movie, sinking thru the end of her run
on Party of Five, sinking faster than the Titanic thru her very
own series (Time of Your Life) and clear thru the production and
release of the Audrey Hepburn Story. Let it never be said that
the public adores skinny women, cause JLH proved the opposite.
Since JLH only got a natural breast reduction, it is non permanent
and reversible...there is no tissue damage or healthy tissue removal,
so there is hope that she will be able to restore her career ( if she
can manage to conquer her psychological problems relating to her
own body parts).

Btw, there was talk that Sabateurs of Christina Ricci were behind
the slashing of her career (note, she did not get a reduction, she
merely said that she was considering it). Sabateurs of an actress
will know that if they can con her into getting the reduction, they
can destroy her career. Hollywood has reasons to eliminate Ricci,
because she represents a beauty that is not thin...the image of
beautiful non thin women (they know) threatens the rulership of
the slender loving elitests, so Ricci would be targetted. It
is also possible that Ryan would be targetted for sabatage for
very similar reasons...in this case, Ryan represents the hourglass
figure, which is a form of beauty that, by its nature, also threatens
the power and prosperity of the skinny elite. The only problem is
that Ryan is a mature, presumably intelligent woman, not a immature
naive head in the clouds artsy fartsy child like Christina Ricci.
It would be very unlikely that she would be so stupid and ignorant
as to announce a possible breast reduction...

StarKitty

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Wow! That was a lot of stuff to go through!

However, as a woman with a fairly good sized chest (36D) I can tell
you that any and all back problems I have ever had (sore lower back,
mostly) has never had anything to do with my chest size. It's always
due to too much lifting and such <sigh>


Captain StarKitty
Team: SG-6 - Search/Rescue
Unit: Sorcerers of the Tau`ri
www.stargatesg-1.com

Slįine_MacRoth

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Breast in Header = Very long thread.

Has anyone noticed that Jeri Ryan's chest varies in size. There are large
breast episodes and very large breast episodes. LBEs and VLBE's. I really
enjoy the latter!

Is it just me or is the human side of Seven taking far too long to come out.
She's been far too stiff for far to long. It's time she 'came out'. I think
it's time she started getting into food or something. Maybe the Doc could
recommend a holodeck program for her to enjoy. The stern expression is
bugging me. Her human side wouldn't put up with being this boring for so
long.

--
The Zone: Slaine_MacRoth

ICQ: 1638585

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Mildred Perkins

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Shammie wrote:

That gay thing again.... I am totally ignorant about heels. Except the male
ones. ;-^)

Mildred Perkins

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"EvilBill[AGQx]" wrote:

> If it helps, I don't find high heels a turn-on... I'm always wondering how
> the hell anyone is supposed to walk wearing those things <g>

That's the rub, so to speak. Isn't the function not so much for walking, but
for falling off of?

Mildred Perkins

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Wickeddoll wrote:

>
> I don't buy it Mildred. She's only about a C cup. The rest is clothing
> effects. I think this is bogus.
>

> Natalie

That's why I was confused. (I was confused, wasn't I? I'd better check.)


J T Kirk

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<Major snip>

I just wanted you to know that I printed out your post and will read it this
weekend when I have more time. But after reading the first little bit I
think it proper to acknowledge your breadth of thought on the topic might be
unparralleled. Thank you for such a scholarly contribution.

JT Kirk


J T Kirk

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Jan 12, 2001, 10:32:56 AM1/12/01
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>
> <Monstrous Snip>
>
> That's alot of talk about breast reduction. I had to snip it.
> Hey...BREAST REDUCTION?? SNIPPING?? GET IT????
>
>
> Buwahahahahahahahahahhaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> ( . )( . )
> (.)(.)
> OO
> oo

Groan.


J T Kirk

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>
> Is it just me or is the human side of Seven taking far too long to come
out.
> She's been far too stiff for far to long. It's time she 'came out'. I
think
> it's time she started getting into food or something. Maybe the Doc could
> recommend a holodeck program for her to enjoy. The stern expression is
> bugging me. Her human side wouldn't put up with being this boring for so
> long.
>
> --
> The Zone: Slaine_MacRoth
>
> ICQ: 1638585
You said it Slaine.


J T Kirk

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Jan 12, 2001, 10:37:33 AM1/12/01
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>
> Bullshit.
>
>
Holy Crap, I was just getting scared at opening your posts, then BOOM!! A
one word post. Awesome.

Bozo the Evil Klown

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Slaine MacRoth doth write thus:

>Is it just me or is the human side of Seven taking far too long to come out.
>She's been far too stiff for far to long. It's time she 'came out'.

She *has* come out; virtually every Seven ep is "Seven finds her Humanity.....
Again." Maybe next time Seven "discovers" her human side she'll duct tape it
to her ass so it doesn't go missing again.

Helen & Bob

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"EvilBill[AGQx]" wrote:
>
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> "J T Kirk" <he...@home.com> wrote in message news:pFq76.12140
> >

> > Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message

> > > >From: "J T Kirk"
> > >
> > > >Foot Fetishes not included, how do high heels help sex?
> > >
> > > Um...see Wickeddoll's answer...
> > >
> > I did. I see. I'm lonely.
> >
>

> If it helps, I don't find high heels a turn-on... I'm always wondering how
> the hell anyone is supposed to walk wearing those things <g>>

> --
Whilst in college, I had to be in Western Costume all day
one day. I was wearing High Heeled Cowboy Boots. By the end
of the day, I thought I was going to die. My legs hurt. My
back hurt. I thought I was going to have to have my toes
amputated. Good God, never again. How do women wear those
things all day, and go DANCING in them. Ladies, my respect
goes to you.
Bob

Helen & Bob

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And the source of this data?
Bob

Wickeddoll

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"Bill Crawford" <koi...@fastlane.net> wrote in message
news:0FD49214BFD90896.21F548DB...@lp.airnews.net...

> On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:11:55 GMT, "Wickeddoll"
> <wicke...@nofeckingspamhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Shammie" <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message
> >news:20010111165117...@ng-mk1.aol.com...
> >> >From: Mildred Perkins
> >>
> >> >Oh. Duh. I wasn't even thinking about the heels, which would throw
me
> >into
> >> >traction
> >> >if I tried wearing them for five minutes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well, you're not suppsed to *walk* in them, silly, they're only good
for
> >sex.
> >>
> >Yup, CFMPs - 'come f*ck me pumps'
> >
> >Natalie, who's going to be wearing those later tonight...
>
> ...afterwards, Bob (not you, Bob, the other one) shall serve juice.
>
> - Will, master of obscure jokes

We got back so late, neither of us had the energy...

there's always tonight

Natalie


Wickeddoll

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<spect...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:93m1d4$hcq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> In article <8Zp76.3885$bE4.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
> "Wickeddoll" <wicke...@nofeckingspamhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Chuck in Minot" <auto...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:t5s5jd6...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > (AP) CNN
> > > Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000
> has
> > > announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to
> some
> > > minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been
> given.
> > >
> > >
> > I find this very hard to believe. As someone who as actually had the
> > surgery, I have to say I don't think Ryan meets the criteria.
> >
> > I think this is a joke
> >
> > Natalie
> >
> >
>
> Omigosh, someone on the Usenet who says they got a breast reduction,
> and they are actually telling the truth. Guess it happens once
> in awhile.
>

Happens more than you might think. I can think of 3 patients in our
practice who are now scheduled for reductions. Too much of a 'good thing'
is a real burden, trust me.

Natalie, now 33 DD


Wickeddoll

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"d_ketchum" <d_ke...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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ROFLMFAO!!!

Natalie


Wickeddoll

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"Freeyoremind" <freeyo...@noway.com> wrote in message
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>
> Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl>
> > >From: "Wickeddoll"
> >
> > >I think this is a joke
> >
> > Bogus
>
> I'm no doctor and I certainly won't mind if she doesn't have surgery, but
> honestly, she does look a little off balance. I have this beautiful
topless
> picture of her from Dracula 2000 which proves they are quite big.
>

>
> Josh
>

I'm no doctor either, but she does not meet the criteria. It's all special
effects and costumes

Natalie


Wickeddoll

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"Bozo the Evil Klown" <evilk...@aol.comedy> wrote in message
news:20010111222623...@ng-bg1.aol.com...
> >> > (AP) CNN
> >> > Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000 has
> >> > announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to
some
> >> > minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been
> >given.
> >> >
> >> My God, must be a painfully slow newsday.
> >> JT Kirk
> >
> >You know if she wore something else she wouldnt have the
> >problem.
>
> ***IF*** she's having any back pain, maybe they shouldn't use hydraulic
> machinery to squeeze her corset on?
>
There ya go, Boze

Natalie


TheFlinx

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Mildred Perkins wrote in message <3A5F1663...@indiana.edu>...


I will not make a sensible shoes joke.
I will not make a sensible shoes joke.
I will not make a sensible shoes joke.
I will not make a sensible shoes joke.
I will not make a sensible shoes joke.
I will not make a sensible shoes joke.
I will not make a sensible shoes joke.

spect...@my-deja.com

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In article <j5t76.166642$I5.39...@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>,

"PeterTHX" <pete...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Chuck in Minot" <auto...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
> news:t5s5jd6...@corp.supernews.com...
> > (AP) CNN
> > Actress Jeri Ryan Star of TV's Star Trek Voyager and Dracula 2000
has
> > announced that she has evaluated having her breasts reduced due to
some
> > minor medical problems with her back. No further details have been
given.
> >
>
> So, she's having her implants taken out, a la Pamela Anderson Lee.

About a year and a half ago, Pam Anderson got her breast implants
removed and then replaced with implants that were a little smaller
but a lot more natural looking (a better shape). Pam Anderson claimed
that she got the implants removed, but that tale did not stick, as
people have eyes and they could see that it just wasn't so.

Why Pam would try to lie to the public about such a thing is a big
mystery. One theory is that it was propaganda to please the implant
haters who can be very vocal. She wanted to look like such a
great example, but at the same time, Pam, who is a PS shill for
breast surgery (she has had her boob size altered about six times
already in the course since she started) she wanted to make deals
with the plastic surgeons. Plastic surgeons, after making a lot
of money on breast implants and reductions, find that they can
make even more bucks on doing both at the same time. Once surgeon
advertises: breast reduction with the latest implants! Other
examples of plastic surgeons making buckos on both on the same
women: prophilactic mastectomies, breast lifts that remove the
skin and then put in breast implants to hold the breasts up
(implants are often recommmended and done with breast lifts, which
scar the outside of the breasts and nipples as much as the breast
reductions, but if you look at the implant statistics put out
by the surgeons, they don't seem to count these implants, as
if calling them something else somehow changes what they actually
are). Evidently, Pamela Anderson figured that if the plastic
surgeons can get away with this, she could too...her new implants,
by spin, weren't implants because they were there "merely to
shape the breasts"


So intent was the elite in portraying Pamela Anderson as an
example so that they could make even more and more profits on
surgery, that long after most people realized that the implant
removal was a sham, media shills still perpretrated this. Finally,
they gave up, and then started extolling Pamela because she
"downsized." The shills changed their tune to the promotion
of breast reductions, and set Pamela Anderson up as a shining
model of rightness. Lord help us all.

Well, this downsizing endeared the big money people, and so they
opened doors for her. But as usual, the mere fact that a celebrity
is favored by the elitests does not make her popular with the
people. Pamela Andersons career went into a long slide. VIP continued
to run, now on its third consecutive season. But I have no idea
whatsoever who actually watches that show. Nobody I know. The
audience, whoever they are, are rather mysterious...can't figure
out who or where they are.

Latest news is that Pamela Anderson is tired of her career doing
a long run vanishing act. She has opted to enlarge her breasts
again for the new season. Sources say that she will return to
a DD-cup, but knowing Pamela, I would say that she is going
to go one size higher, namely, DDD-cup. Women who are beyond
DD-cups commonly fib about this and say that they are only
DD-cups. Some of them are II-cups, but they say they are DD-cups.
Pamela is therefore likely to fib like these others and say
that she is merely DD, when she is actually a size larger.


>
> Before anyone pops in and says "But they're real", no, they are not.
>
>

Yes, Jeri Ryan is real. Unfortunately, people confuse her with
her character, Seven of Nine, who is supposed to have Borg implants.
She has explained that the costume has its own backing that enhance
the size of her breasts. If they don't look exactly real, that is
why. Jeri Ryan's real breasts are not as large or as round as those
of her character.

As for this poster, he likes to go troll newsgroups with semi legitamate
sounding "news stories" about celebrities getting boob jobs. He posted
about a couple of divas (names escape me) announcing that they were
going to get 52E breast implants to "match their big butts"...I
called him on this, since, for one clue, breast implants do not
increase the bra strap size. Next, he announced that Lisa Nicole
Carson was planning on getting a breast reduction because she
was "tired of being known for her boobs". That post actually fooled
me, I am ashamed to say. Evidently, a lot of people are fooled by
his current claim that Jeri Ryan wants reduction. He usually includes
an actual news service or even an actual spokesperson to make the
post sound real. He was also involved recently in the Bush/Gore
campaigns, saying bogus stuff about Bush that actually applied
to Gore.

His reduction posts tend to attract breast reduction shills who
take advantage of the opportunity to dispense breast reduction
propaganda and hopefully snag breast reduction clients thru the
newsgroup. Breast reduction shills always appear in threads like
this...they say that they are women who have had the breast reduction,
or they say they are women who's relatives or friends have gotten
them...
they use this to "express" how horrid big breasts are (negative
reinforcement) and they then cap the pitch off with how wonderful
breast reduction is (positive reinforcement)...they never say anything
real about the
reductions that people might want to know, such as about the
internal or external scarring that results, or that they
are permanent and completely irreversible, and they frequently
flame anyone who says anything against their dogma, which mirrors
perfectly the misinformation patterns endlessly repeated in thousands
upon thousands of Web sites on breast reduction put out by plastic
surgeons.

spect...@my-deja.com

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In article <2uF76.15431$FH5.1...@news0.telusplanet.net>,

Most definitely. Too bad that Voyager is on its last season. We
will never see this. The writers blew it, I fear.

Not only that, but with the Doctor, Tuvok, *and* the Seven of
Nine, this *kind of character* was way too overdone in the show.

J T Kirk

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> > >
> > > Is it just me or is the human side of Seven taking far too long to
> come
> > out.
> > > She's been far too stiff for far to long. It's time she 'came out'.
> I
> > think
> > > it's time she started getting into food or something. Maybe the Doc
> could
> > > recommend a holodeck program for her to enjoy. The stern expression
> is
> > > bugging me. Her human side wouldn't put up with being this boring
> for so
> > > long.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Zone: Slaine_MacRoth
> > >
> > > ICQ: 1638585
> > You said it Slaine.
> >
> Most definitely. Too bad that Voyager is on its last season. We
> will never see this. The writers blew it, I fear.
>
> Not only that, but with the Doctor, Tuvok, *and* the Seven of
> Nine, this *kind of character* was way too overdone in the show.

Yep, and it was done in TNG (Data). Can we not explore the human condition
through external conflicts rather than internal navel gazing?
JT Kirtk


Mirror Spock

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:42:29 GMT, "J T Kirk" <he...@home.com> went
upon the mount and spoke thus:

>
>Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl> wrote in message

>news:20010111171605...@ng-mk1.aol.com...


>> >From: "J T Kirk"
>>
>> >Foot Fetishes not included, how do high heels help sex?
>> >
>>
>> Um...see Wickeddoll's answer...
>>
>I did. I see. I'm lonely.
>

What was Wickeddoll's answer?

* Robinson
"No one questions the assassination of a Captain who disobeys prime orders of the Empire."
-- Ensign Pavel Chekov, "Mirror, Mirror"

Arlie

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>> She *has* come out; virtually every Seven ep is "Seven finds her
Humanity.....
Again." Maybe next time Seven "discovers" her human side she'll duct tape it
to her ass so it doesn't go missing again. <<

ROFL! So true!


-- Arlie

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Wickeddoll

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"Helen & Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Your respect for women is one of the things I like best about you, Bob.

=D

Natalie


Wickeddoll

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"Arlie" <arl...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
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> >> She *has* come out; virtually every Seven ep is "Seven finds her
> Humanity.....
> Again." Maybe next time Seven "discovers" her human side she'll duct tape
it
> to her ass so it doesn't go missing again. <<
>
> ROFL! So true!
>
>
> -- Arlie

LOL! Who said this?

Natalie, who hates that Arlie never puts the original poster's name in the
reply


JungFrau

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Mildred Perkins wrote in message <3A5F16B8...@indiana.edu>...

You mean so a 'knight in shining armour' can come catch us from falling and
then we'd be so grateful we let him deflower us?

Sounds a bit contraverted to me. What about just bringing roses? <g>

F.

"You've still got a tendril up your nose..."
-- B'Elanna Torres, 'Scorpion: part II', Star Trek: Voyager


JungFrau

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EvilBill[AGQx] wrote in message <93nhkb$4h0$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>"JungFrau" <jung...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
>>
>> EvilBill[AGQx] wrote in message <93ldi0$q5v$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>> >
>> >If it helps, I don't find high heels a turn-on... I'm always wondering
>how
>> >the hell anyone is supposed to walk wearing those things <g>
>>
>> I love you EB! <big hug>
>>
>
>*THUD* :)

:-)

>
>> F. (hates heels)
>>
>
>I don't see how they're supposed to be a turn-on... I mean, they'd be more
>of a hindrance than a help in bed, surely? <g>

I wouldn't know. <g> I don't get it either. They give you bad (and sore)
feet, varicose veins, and it's so much easier to break your ankle while
wearing them... (????)

Germaine Greer said in The Female Eunuch that they're supposed to make
women's hips more pronounced (they are thrown back), because that's the only
way you can walk in them. That's supposed to be the turn on, apparently.
I'm quite willing to give that up if I can avoid all the afore-mentioned
symptoms, myself. <g>

F.

"You've still got a tendril up your nose..."
-- B'Elanna Torres, 'Scorpion: part II', Star Trek: Voyager

F.


>
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>
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>
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JungFrau

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Wickeddoll wrote in message ...

Hear, hear! <g>

JungFrau

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Helen & Bob wrote in message <3A5F35AB...@ix.netcom.com>...

LOL! <hugs Bob>

Not me, I already have lower back problems, I'm not going to risk making it
worse. I'm glad you appreciate some of the pain we go through. :-)
I do have to make an exception sometimes, at formal occasions for example,
it is expected that women wear heels. And it's a good thing I don't have my
heart set on an office job, because it's required everyday there too. I
wish employers and society in general were more flexible to these sorts of
gross inequalities. <end rant>

Swiss

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Jan 12, 2001, 10:06:54 PM1/12/01
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I woke up this morning, thinking I would not learn anything and Bozo the
Evil Klown typed this insightful comment:

> She *has* come out; virtually every Seven ep is "Seven finds her
Humanity.....
> Again." Maybe next time Seven "discovers" her human side she'll duct tape
it
> to her ass so it doesn't go missing again.
>

LOLROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!


JungFrau

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Bozo the Evil Klown wrote in message
<20010112114744...@ng-bg1.aol.com>...

>Slaine MacRoth doth write thus:
>
>>Is it just me or is the human side of Seven taking far too long to come
out.
>>She's been far too stiff for far to long. It's time she 'came out'.
>
>She *has* come out; virtually every Seven ep is "Seven finds her
Humanity.....
>Again." Maybe next time Seven "discovers" her human side she'll duct tape
it
>to her ass so it doesn't go missing again.

LOL! Done it again, Boze!

F.

"You've still got a tendril up your nose..."
-- B'Elanna Torres, 'Scorpion: part II', Star Trek: Voyager
>

JungFrau

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Wickeddoll wrote in message ...
>

Bozo, who else?! <g>

EvilBill[AGQx]

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"JungFrau" <jung...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
>
> EvilBill[AGQx] wrote in message <93nhkb$4h0$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...

> >
> >I don't see how they're supposed to be a turn-on... I mean, they'd be
more
> >of a hindrance than a help in bed, surely? <g>
>
> I wouldn't know. <g> I don't get it either. They give you bad (and sore)
> feet, varicose veins, and it's so much easier to break your ankle while
> wearing them... (????)
>

Ouch!

> Germaine Greer said in The Female Eunuch that they're supposed to make
> women's hips more pronounced (they are thrown back), because that's the
only
> way you can walk in them. That's supposed to be the turn on, apparently.
> I'm quite willing to give that up if I can avoid all the afore-mentioned
> symptoms, myself. <g>
>

I think I would be, too, if I was female <g>
Personally, I wish I didn't have to wear a tie! Arghhh! I hate anything
toaching my throat, and those things always make me feel like I'm being
strangled...

--

* Your culture will adapt to service ours.

Bozo the Evil Klown

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>> Germaine Greer said in The Female Eunuch that they're supposed to make
>> women's hips more pronounced (they are thrown back), because that's the
>only
>> way you can walk in them. That's supposed to be the turn on, apparently.
>> I'm quite willing to give that up if I can avoid all the afore-mentioned
>> symptoms, myself. <g>
>>
>
>I think I would be, too, if I was female <g>
>Personally, I wish I didn't have to wear a tie! Arghhh! I hate anything
>toaching my throat, and those things always make me feel like I'm being
>strangled...

Saw a cartoon many years back; some poor wage slave fiddling with his tie
thinking "If *men* rule the world, then how did we get locked into these silly
costumes?"

David B.

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"EvilBill[AGQx]" wrote:

> I think I would be, too, if I was female <g>
> Personally, I wish I didn't have to wear a tie! Arghhh! I hate anything
> toaching my throat, and those things always make me feel like I'm being
> strangled...

I hate ties as well. The guy who invented ties must've been a sadist.

Wickeddoll

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"David B." <both...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Same guy that invented the stirrup chair

Natalie


Helen & Bob

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Actually, ties were invented to help prevent the staining of
shirts, back when the shirt cost far more than the tie.
Today, one should wear the shirt over the tie.
Bob ( who has worn a tie only once in the last 5 years.)

Michele

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Jan 14, 2001, 11:20:04 AM1/14/01
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At least you guys can take them off, we ladies have to wear
things that are far more uncomfortable.

Michele

Helen & Bob

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Not at my house. (leer, ogle, snort)
Bob

Michele

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There you guys proof that bob has been in here way too long.
You know one of these days Helen is going to read this
stuff. : )

Michele

Helen & Bob

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Not at all. She's delighted that at my advanced (Jesus, but
am I advanced)
age I am still "interested".
Bob

Swiss

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"Fire at Will" Why does every starfleet captain hate Will? What did he ever
do to them?


"Helen & Bob" <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

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Ferengie


Kal-El

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I was flying over the city, bringing evil-doers to justice, when
"JungFrau" <jung...@mailandnews.com> wrote:


>>If it helps, I don't find high heels a turn-on... I'm always wondering how
>>the hell anyone is supposed to walk wearing those things <g>
>

My wife explains that few if ANY women would wear high heels if they
didn't make their legs look so good! ;)

Jason Lane

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:44:35 +0100, "Freeyoremind"
<freeyo...@noway.com> wrotd:

>
>Shammie <sham...@aol.comharemgrl>
>> >From: "Wickeddoll"
>>
>> >I think this is a joke
>>
>> Bogus
>
>I'm no doctor and I certainly won't mind if she doesn't have surgery, but
>honestly, she does look a little off balance. I have this beautiful topless
>picture of her from Dracula 2000 which proves they are quite big.
>
>For those interested I'll post it on alt.fan.jeri-ryan.

Topless? I thought she swore she wouldn't do it.

Besides, those boobs are store bought. I've seen the mid-90s
pictures of her, she was an ironing board.

-j

JungFrau

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"EvilBill[AGQx]" <evil_lo...@q3arena.com> wrote in message
news:93qlui$sjt$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

> "JungFrau" <jung...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
> >
> > EvilBill[AGQx] wrote in message <93nhkb$4h0$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> > >
> > >I don't see how they're supposed to be a turn-on... I mean, they'd be
> more
> > >of a hindrance than a help in bed, surely? <g>
> >
> > I wouldn't know. <g> I don't get it either. They give you bad (and
sore)
> > feet, varicose veins, and it's so much easier to break your ankle while
> > wearing them... (????)
> >
>
> Ouch!
>
> > Germaine Greer said in The Female Eunuch that they're supposed to make
> > women's hips more pronounced (they are thrown back), because that's the
> only
> > way you can walk in them. That's supposed to be the turn on, apparently.
> > I'm quite willing to give that up if I can avoid all the afore-mentioned
> > symptoms, myself. <g>
> >
>
> I think I would be, too, if I was female <g>
> Personally, I wish I didn't have to wear a tie! Arghhh! I hate anything
> toaching my throat, and those things always make me feel like I'm being
> strangled...

Yeah, that's a stupid tradition too! Poor EB. :-(

F.


--
"If it doesn't work, hit it."
--B'Elanna Torres, 'Faces', Star Trek: Voyager

Regertz

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So it is computer enhancement then, as my sister has always insisted.

Wickeddoll

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"Regertz" <reg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> So it is computer enhancement then, as my sister has always insisted.

Perhaps, but I think it's more costume trickery than anything else.

Natalie


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