The Appeal of Tom Paris
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
*somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again review
the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a nice
juicy debate going....
Tom Paris.
Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating teenage
boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
Tom is the ship's practical joker, and has seemingly become Neelix's
"partner" in crime. His friendship with Harry seems to be nothing more
than Harry's feeling of friendship and Tom's love of having someone to
play jokes on. There is a clear intention with Tom's character to
attempt to annoy each and every other crew member to what end I do not
yet understand. Even B'Elanna is not immune. The so-called "loving"
relationship that they have, is paper thin and as loving as the
relationship between a teenager and a pet, and probably as enduring. In
the early days before their relationship "blossomed" there was some
tension between the characters of a sexual or loving nature, since they
became a couple that tension has fizzled and inspite of the efforts on
the screen and by their fans no one can convince me that Tom has any
intention of commitment to B'Elanna, there is no evidence in his manner.
Tom Paris is the cheeky chappy of Voyager, the loveable rogue, except
he's not very loveable.
I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not the
sort of person I would associate with.
So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
Zabana Brandon
*thwaps Gordon upside the noggin'*
<eg>
Arlie
This is trolling for Parisites if ever I saw it....
-- Arlie
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> Ack. Not this thread again!
Yes, it is alive!
> This is trolling for Parisites if ever I saw it....
Awww.... maybe, but I *was* trying to get *some* debate going. I mean
why do people like him?
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> Just when you think a thread has *finally* died out.
>
>
> *thwaps Gordon upside the noggin'*
>
>
>
> <eg>
LOL!
Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
Arlie
Yes, it is alive! <<
It's got more lives than Harry Kim....
>>> This is trolling for Parisites if ever I saw it....
Awww.... maybe, but I *was* trying to get *some* debate going. I mean
why do people like him? <<
He's cute? <g>
I guess I have a love-hate relationship with Tom Paris these days. I used to
find him charming. These days, he's mostly just annoying. Though he does have
his moments, still.
I liked Tom best this season in "Pathfinder." The scene where he finally hears
from his Dad, and the toast he offers afterward. Could it be he's finally
growing up?
I also enjoyed the Paris-Kim scene in "Survival Instinct." Very much the frat
boy, but it seemed an honest mistake, basically harmless, and quite amusing.
Another Paris moment I liked: in "Fair Haven," when he persuades the Doc not to
bet against Harry. Because he's afraid it would hurt Harry's feelings. It's
such a small matter, yet Tom is concerned. A nice moment, and more convincing
than the "where's Harry?!!" scenery-chewing of "Collective" or the similar
scenery-chewing in "Muse."
-- Arlie
Lady Pie aka Michelle
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) <sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And *I* am here this summer........
white bathing suit indeed!
<eg>
>
>
Lady Pie aka Michelle
Paris Lover <ilove...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Just wait until I get my f@#king hands on you.....
LOL! Uh oh. My love is in MAJOR trouble now ...... <g>.
VoyagerLady
>
>
>**Gives Gordon the Stare of Death**
>
>Just wait until I get my f@#king hands on you.....
>
>
>
>
>Paris Lover
You go, girl!!!!! Get him good!!!!!
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Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) <sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
**Gives Gordon the Stare of Death**
Just wait until I get my f@#king hands on you.....
--
Paris Lover
Zabana Brandon
>
> Ack. Not this thread again!
>
Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Got ta keep on trollin'
Keep the Tom jokes rollin'
Trollsdonthide!!!!
Besides, I've got this nifty new keep away
spray called "Parisites Off!"
Available only at AS SEEN ON TV shops across
North America. $2.23 a bottle.
Zabana Brandon
>
> >>> Ack. Not this thread again!
>
>
> It's got more lives than Harry Kim....
THE LIVES OF HARRY KIM.
A new paperback from Pocket Books. Available
in stores October 9th. Order yours today.
No down deposit required. Soft cover only.
> Another Paris moment I liked: in "Fair Haven,"
> when he persuades the Doc not to bet against
> Harry. Because he's afraid it would hurt Harry's
> feelings. It's such a small matter, yet Tom is
> concerned.
And a *gasp* rare moment of *ACTUAL* character
continuity. Seems that maybe ol' Tommy-boy
learned his lesson from the last onscreen betting
debacle in "Someone To Watch Over Me."
EvilBill[AGQx]
news:G9f25.215
> > Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
> >
> > Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
> > suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
>
> And *I* am here this summer........
So what do you wear during the summer? <eg>
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Julianna Feigl
<sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>OK, it's summer, I know we don't have a new episode for a while, and
>*somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
>
>So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again review
>the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a nice
>juicy debate going....
>
>Tom Paris.
>
>Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
>
*good* question
>When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating teenage
>boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
>brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
>
>Tom is the ship's practical joker, and has seemingly become Neelix's
>"partner" in crime.
he's worse than Neelix ever was...
>His friendship with Harry seems to be nothing more
>than Harry's feeling of friendship and Tom's love of having someone to
>play jokes on. There is a clear intention with Tom's character to
>attempt to annoy each and every other crew member to what end I do not
>yet understand. Even B'Elanna is not immune. The so-called "loving"
>relationship that they have, is paper thin and as loving as the
>relationship between a teenager and a pet, and probably as enduring. In
>the early days before their relationship "blossomed" there was some
>tension between the characters of a sexual or loving nature, since they
>became a couple that tension has fizzled and inspite of the efforts on
>the screen and by their fans no one can convince me that Tom has any
>intention of commitment to B'Elanna, there is no evidence in his manner.
>
>Tom Paris is the cheeky chappy of Voyager, the loveable rogue, except
>he's not very loveable.
>
>I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not the
>sort of person I would associate with.
>
>So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
>
you ask *me*???????
Julianna
--------
Tuvok:
The main reason to watch Voyager!
Julianna Feigl
<sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Arlie wrote
>> Ack. Not this thread again!
>
>Yes, it is alive!
>
>> This is trolling for Parisites if ever I saw it....
>
>Awww.... maybe, but I *was* trying to get *some* debate going. I mean
>why do people like him?
>
that *is* a valid question!
Julianna Feigl
<zab...@collegetoday.com> wrote:
>Just when you think a thread has *finally* died out.
>
>
>*thwaps Gordon upside the noggin'*
>
>
Hey, he made some good points!!!!
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> > Zabana Brandon wrote
> > > Just when you think a thread has *finally* died out.
> > >
> > > *thwaps Gordon upside the noggin'*
> > >
> >
> > LOL!
> > Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
> >
> > Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
> > suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
>
> And *I* am here this summer........
> <eg>
So you are, so you are.....Hmmm....<considers the benefits>
:-))
<winking at Michelle>
So what are *you* wearing today my love?
<g>
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> >>> Ack. Not this thread again!
>
> Yes, it is alive! <<
>
*Nothing* has more lives than Harry Kim!
(apart from Voyager's shuttle craft)
> >>> This is trolling for Parisites if ever I saw it....
>
> Awww.... maybe, but I *was* trying to get *some* debate going. I mean
> why do people like him? <<
>
> He's cute? <g>
Huh!? Hmmmm nah!
> I guess I have a love-hate relationship with Tom Paris these days. I
used to
> find him charming. These days, he's mostly just annoying. Though he
does have
> his moments, still.
They all have their moments, I just find that Toms are few and far
between and usually all but drowned out by his clutsy and immature or
juvenile behaviour.
> I liked Tom best this season in "Pathfinder." The scene where he
finally hears
> from his Dad, and the toast he offers afterward. Could it be he's
finally
> growing up?
I wish it could be, he'd be far more likeable. In fact I thought he was
*far* more mature and "grown up" in the first couple of seasons than he
is now.
> I also enjoyed the Paris-Kim scene in "Survival Instinct." Very much
the frat
> boy, but it seemed an honest mistake, basically harmless, and quite
amusing.
But that's his *normal* behavior. It's on the rare occasion that he
displays the other side to his personality, so rarely in fact that I
don't believe that it's part of the personality.
> Another Paris moment I liked: in "Fair Haven," when he persuades the
Doc not to
> bet against Harry. Because he's afraid it would hurt Harry's
feelings. It's
> such a small matter, yet Tom is concerned. A nice moment, and more
convincing
> than the "where's Harry?!!" scenery-chewing of "Collective" or the
similar
> scenery-chewing in "Muse."
LOL! you used the phrases"I liked" and "fair haven" in the same
sentence!!
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> > I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not
the
> > sort of person I would associate with.
> >
> > So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
>
>
<weak smile>
> Just wait until I get my f@#king hands on you.....
I can't wait.....<g>
Merrick Baldelli
>Ack. Not this thread again!
>
>This is trolling for Parisites if ever I saw it....
Quick, get the RID ready.
Merrick Baldelli
<sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>OK, it's summer, I know we don't have a new episode for a while, and
>*somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
>
>So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again review
>the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a nice
>juicy debate going....
>
>Tom Paris.
>
>Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
You misspelled Pussy.
Positively no appeal. I look at him and get this overwhelming
desire to hagslap him into the last century.
>When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating teenage
>boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
>brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
I think he would do better on Dawson's Crack. He has the kind
of dynsfunctional personality that would work wonders there..
>Tom Paris is the cheeky chappy of Voyager, the loveable rogue, except
>he's not very loveable.
Hear!!! Hear!!!
>I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not the
>sort of person I would associate with.
>
>So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
Sure there is... Cleaning out the Plasma Conduits in
Engineering.
Arlie
*Nothing* has more lives than Harry Kim!
(apart from Voyager's shuttle craft) <<
I hope you're right. I hate to think this thread will resurface as often as
Voyager's only recyclable ensign.
>>> Awww.... maybe, but I *was* trying to get *some* debate going. I mean
> why do people like him? <<
>
> He's cute? <g>
Huh!? Hmmmm nah! <<
If you're the kind of woman who likes guy's butts, there's a lot to like with
Paris? <g>
>> They all have their moments, I just find that Toms are few and far
between and usually all but drowned out by his clutsy and immature or
juvenile behaviour. <<
I can't disagree, but I still like him, for what he used to be, and what he
could be, if the writers had a clue.
>> In fact I thought he was
*far* more mature and "grown up" in the first couple of seasons than he
is now. <<
Agreed. He's regressed. And so has Harry.
>> LOL! you used the phrases"I liked" and "fair haven" in the same
sentence!! <<
I didn't mind "Fair Haven" too much. "Spirit Folk" I despised, but "Fair
Haven" had its moments. I didn't like the main plot of Janeway and her
hololover, but I liked the other crew interaction scenes. Janeway and Chuckles
talking to each other like the old friends they must surely be by now. Seven
getting picked up by Seamus in the bar. Tuvok and Seven in the mess hall. The
arm-wrestling scene. The Tom and Harry show (including getting in yet another
barroom brawl).
-- Arlie
Paris Lover
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) <sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Paris Lover wrote
> > Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> **cut**
> the
> > > sort of person I would associate with.
> > >
> > > So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
> >
> >
>
> <weak smile>
>
> > Just wait until I get my f@#king hands on you.....
>
> I can't wait.....<g>
>
>
: - P
Lady Pie aka Michelle
EvilBill[AGQx] <evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote in message
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> > > Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
> > >
> > > Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
> > > suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
> >
> > And *I* am here this summer........
>
Halter tops, white cropped pants, slipdresses that button up the front,
short denim shorts, thin chemises, a white bathing suit and sometimes very
little - depends........
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> The lithe and perfect minx, Lady Pie aka Michelle wrote
> > Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> > > > Just when you think a thread has *finally* died out.
> > > >
> > > > *thwaps Gordon upside the noggin'*
> > > >
> > > > <eg>
> > >
> > > Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
> > >
> > > Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
> > > suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
> >
> > And *I* am here this summer........
> > <eg>
>
> So you are, so you are.....Hmmm....<considers the benefits>
>
> :-))
Uh huh....... <veg>. Benefits that might include yet another white bathing
suit?
>
> <winking at Michelle>
> So what are *you* wearing today my love?
> <g>
LOL! Today - nothing but a t-shirt with cats embroidered on it and gingham
bikinis..... with an anklet and a ring of course - they NEVER leave my
body. Oh - and a smile! :-))))))))
>
>
Julianna Feigl
<mbal...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:59:46 GMT, "Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)"
><sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>OK, it's summer, I know we don't have a new episode for a while, and
>>*somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
>>
>>So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again review
>>the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a nice
>>juicy debate going....
>>
>>Tom Paris.
>>
>>Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
>
> You misspelled Pussy.
>
> Positively no appeal. I look at him and get this overwhelming
>desire to hagslap him into the last century.
>
>>When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating teenage
>>boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
>>brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
>
> I think he would do better on Dawson's Crack. He has the kind
>of dynsfunctional personality that would work wonders there..
>
>>Tom Paris is the cheeky chappy of Voyager, the loveable rogue, except
>>he's not very loveable.
>
> Hear!!! Hear!!!
>
>>I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not the
>>sort of person I would associate with.
>>
>>So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
>
> Sure there is... Cleaning out the Plasma Conduits in
>Engineering.
>
I like that idea... :-)
Julianna Feigl
>>>> It's got more lives than Harry Kim....
>
>*Nothing* has more lives than Harry Kim!
>(apart from Voyager's shuttle craft) <<
>
>I hope you're right. I hate to think this thread will resurface as often as
>Voyager's only recyclable ensign.
>
>>>> Awww.... maybe, but I *was* trying to get *some* debate going. I mean
>> why do people like him? <<
>>
>> He's cute? <g>
>
>Huh!? Hmmmm nah! <<
>
>If you're the kind of woman who likes guy's butts, there's a lot to like with
>Paris? <g>
>
LOL! I prefer muscles to fat...
>>> They all have their moments, I just find that Toms are few and far
>between and usually all but drowned out by his clutsy and immature or
>juvenile behaviour. <<
>
>I can't disagree, but I still like him, for what he used to be, and what he
>could be, if the writers had a clue.
>
and if RDM could play him that way...
>>> In fact I thought he was
>*far* more mature and "grown up" in the first couple of seasons than he
>is now. <<
>
>Agreed. He's regressed. And so has Harry.
>
>>> LOL! you used the phrases"I liked" and "fair haven" in the same
>sentence!! <<
>
>I didn't mind "Fair Haven" too much. "Spirit Folk" I despised, but "Fair
>Haven" had its moments. I didn't like the main plot of Janeway and her
>hololover, but I liked the other crew interaction scenes. Janeway and Chuckles
>talking to each other like the old friends they must surely be by now. Seven
>getting picked up by Seamus in the bar. Tuvok and Seven in the mess hall.
???? When he almost threw up??????????????????????
> The
>arm-wrestling scene. The Tom and Harry show (including getting in yet another
>barroom brawl).
Julianna
Lady Pie aka Michelle
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) <sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mlc25.8641$1y5.1...@news3.cableinet.net...
> OK, it's summer, I know we don't have a new episode for a while, and
> *somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
>
> So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again review
> the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a nice
> juicy debate going....
Well I wasn't around last year, so this should be good for me.
>
> Tom Paris.
<yuck>
>
> Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB, but
.....
I just never really got into the bad boy craze. Like James Dean...???? The
closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel' or two - like
Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
> When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating teenage
> boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
> brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
And the men who ever grow up from that....
>
> Tom is the ship's practical joker, and has seemingly become Neelix's
> "partner" in crime. His friendship with Harry seems to be nothing more
> than Harry's feeling of friendship and Tom's love of having someone to
> play jokes on. There is a clear intention with Tom's character to
> attempt to annoy each and every other crew member to what end I do not
> yet understand. Even B'Elanna is not immune. The so-called "loving"
> relationship that they have, is paper thin and as loving as the
> relationship between a teenager and a pet, and probably as enduring. In
> the early days before their relationship "blossomed" there was some
> tension between the characters of a sexual or loving nature, since they
> became a couple that tension has fizzled and inspite of the efforts on
> the screen and by their fans no one can convince me that Tom has any
> intention of commitment to B'Elanna, there is no evidence in his manner.
I have seen a few earlier episodes where this pairing had potential, but the
writers blew it. I would have dropped him on his not-so-fine arse quicker
than a hot potato. B'Elanna needs way more of a man.
>
> Tom Paris is the cheeky chappy of Voyager, the loveable rogue, except
> he's not very loveable.
>
> I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not the
> sort of person I would associate with.
>
> So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
Some folks get into that blond, blue-eyed all-american stud look, but not me
... He needs a build more like Will Riker - THEN I might discuss appeal.
Mic
*puts on flamecoat*
>
>
Arlie
>Haven" had its moments. I didn't like the main plot of Janeway and her
>hololover, but I liked the other crew interaction scenes. Janeway and
Chuckles
>talking to each other like the old friends they must surely be by now. Seven
>getting picked up by Seamus in the bar. Tuvok and Seven in the mess hall.
???? When he almost threw up?????????????????????? <<
No, not that part. That part was lame. (And Tim acted it so convincingly it
made me queasy just watching.)
But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and Seven. He
won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit down
at his table without even asking.
-- Arlie
EvilBill[AGQx]
>
> But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and Seven. He
> won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit
down
> at his table without even asking.
>
That's because he thinks Seven is more intelligent than the rest of the
senior staff put together. <g>
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> >
> > Halter tops, white cropped pants, slipdresses that button up the front,
> > short denim shorts, thin chemises, a white bathing suit and sometimes
very
> > little - depends........
> >
>
> *coronary-induced THUD*
<grinning from ear to ear> Well, you DID ask, you know <veg>.
Lady Pie aka Michelle
Brian Barjenbruch <bri...@home.com> wrote in message
news:170620002103008785%bri...@home.com...
> In article <3iO25.21$RL1....@feed.centuryinter.net>, Lady Pie aka
> Michelle <LadyPi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Halter tops, white cropped pants, slipdresses that button up the front,
> > short denim shorts, thin chemises, a white bathing suit and sometimes
very
> > little - depends........
>
> T H H U U D D
> T HHHHH U U D D
> T H H U U D D
> T H H UUUUU DDDD
<big grin> Well it DOES get rather hot and humid here in teh South. We
gals just learn how to adapt! <wink>
Thanks, Mic
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> > Michelle <LadyPi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Halter tops, white cropped pants, slipdresses that button up the
front,
> > > short denim shorts, thin chemises, a white bathing suit and sometimes
> very
> > > little - depends........
> >
> > TTTTT H H U U DDDD
> > T H H U U D D
> > T HHHHH U U D D
> > T H H U U D D
> > T H H UUUUU DDDD
> >
>
ROTFL! And it WAS hot today - even WITH the rain.....
You two are crazy and I love you both!
EvilBill[AGQx]
news:oiO25.22
>
> LOL! Today - nothing but a t-shirt with cats embroidered on it and
gingham
> bikinis..... with an anklet and a ring of course - they NEVER leave my
> body. Oh - and a smile! :-))))))))
>
*drool**swoon**MEGATHUD*
EvilBill[AGQx]
>
> short denim shorts, thin chemises, a white bathing suit and sometimes very
> little - depends........
>
OMG!
*coronary-induced THUD*
EvilBill[AGQx]
>
> Well I wasn't around last year, so this should be good for me.
>
I know another thing or or two that might be "good for you" <vveg>
> > Tom Paris.
>
> <yuck>
LOL :)
> >
> > Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
>
> What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB, but
> .....
>
I'm not bad. I'm evil. There's a difference ;-)
> I just never really got into the bad boy craze. Like James Dean...????
The
> closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel' or two -
like
> Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
>
Heh, can I be a scoundrel? <eg>
>
> Some folks get into that blond, blue-eyed all-american stud look, but not
me
> ... He needs a build more like Will Riker - THEN I might discuss appeal.
>
Can I have a build like Will Riker too? <g>
EvilBill[AGQx]
> Michelle <LadyPi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Halter tops, white cropped pants, slipdresses that button up the front,
> > short denim shorts, thin chemises, a white bathing suit and sometimes
very
> > little - depends........
>
> T H H U U D D
> T HHHHH U U D D
> T H H U U D D
> T H H UUUUU DDDD
>
Amen brother! Preach on! :)
--
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> EvilBill[AGQx] wrote
> > "Lady Pie aka Michelle" wrote
> > > Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> > > >
> > > > Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
> > > >
> > > > Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
> > > > suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
> > >
> > > And *I* am here this summer........
> >
>
> Halter tops,
Hmmmm... shoulders, back and neck exposed, very attractive. All that
bare flesh, just begging to be caressed and admired...
> white cropped pants,
Hmmm... luxuriant legs and thighs.. :-))
> slipdresses that button up the front,
and skim over the body, gently hugging it and showing off all the right
curves, lovely!
> short denim shorts,
She wears short shorts!! ;-) More legs and thighs, the long lines of a
calf and the sway of the hips as you walk...excellent.
> thin chemises,
Definitely a must on a hot night, light airy and flimsy. Perfect!
> a white bathing suit
<grin>
well tanned body, dark hair.....Hmmmmmmmmm don't get it wet! Wait a
minute, what the hell am I saying!? Where's that hose?
>and sometimes very little - depends........
Hmmm... my favourite option of all...
<smooch>
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
**cut**
> > > And *I* am here this summer........
> > > <eg>
> >
> > So you are, so you are.....Hmmm....<considers the benefits>
> >
> > :-))
>
> Uh huh....... <veg>. Benefits that might include yet another white
bathing
> suit?
:-)
Well, I might never be so bold to ask, but on the other hand, maybe I
would be so bold..<g>
> > <winking at Michelle>
> > So what are *you* wearing today my love?
> > <g>
>
> LOL! Today - nothing but a t-shirt with cats embroidered on it and
gingham
> bikinis.....
<grin>
<imagining the scene>
Hmm... the T-shirt sounds *very* pretty and the bikinis tell me it must
be very hot there. I hope you have the air-conditioning turned *way*
down. Though not too far...<grin>. Lots of bare leg and thigh to
admire, arms to caress and a bare mid-rift should you stretch or bend.
Lovely!!
<imagining myself beside you>
::THUD::
> with an anklet and a ring of course - they NEVER leave my
> body. Oh - and a smile! :-))))))))
<smooch>
Of course not. And *very* soon you'll have another ring to join the one
you already have, and then a few short weeks from then another to join
that, matching one of my own.... Well, now I'm wearing a smile to match
yours. :-)
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> >>>I didn't mind "Fair Haven" too much. "Spirit Folk" I despised, but
"Fair
> >Haven" had its moments. I didn't like the main plot of Janeway and
her
> >hololover, but I liked the other crew interaction scenes. Janeway
and
> Chuckles
> >talking to each other like the old friends they must surely be by
now. Seven
> >getting picked up by Seamus in the bar. Tuvok and Seven in the mess
hall.
>
> ???? When he almost threw up?????????????????????? <<
>
> No, not that part. That part was lame. (And Tim acted it so
convincingly it
> made me queasy just watching.)
Lame and unneccessary.
> But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and
Seven. He
> won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to
sit down
> at his table without even asking.
Yep, I think that they are kindred spirits, a friendship that we've seen
in other episodes, I think it's one we should see more of.
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> "Lady Pie aka Michelle" wrote
> >
> >
>
> I know another thing or or two that might be "good for you" <vveg>
I think I might shed some light on those things. a) Me, b) being married
to me.
;-)
> > > Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
> >
> > What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB,
but
> > .....
>
> I'm not bad. I'm evil. There's a difference ;-)
You're evil in a Bill Gates sort of way, Tom is bad in a mis-behaving
child sort of way?
> > I just never really got into the bad boy craze. Like James
Dean...????
> > The closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel'
or two -
> > like Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
>
> Heh, can I be a scoundrel? <eg>
Not if you are evil Bill, you're too busy annoying the justice
department.
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> > *somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
> >
> > So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again
review
> > the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a
nice
> > juicy debate going....
>
:-)
Indeed. I hope so.
> > Tom Paris.
>
> <yuck>
LOL! Say what you mean my love, don't mince your words.
> > Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
>
> What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB,
but
> .....
Not sure, but there is supposedly an appeal of the "bad boy".
> I just never really got into the bad boy craze. Like James
Dean...???? The
> closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel' or
two - like
> Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
Ah, a scoundrel, is that like a rogue?
> > When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating
teenage
> > boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
> > brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
>
> And the men who ever grow up from that....
Indeed. Some me do seem to be stuck in that part of their past and
unable to rise above it.
**cut**
> > The so-called "loving"
> > relationship that they have, is paper thin and as loving as the
> > relationship between a teenager and a pet, and probably as enduring.
In
> > the early days before their relationship "blossomed" there was some
> > tension between the characters of a sexual or loving nature, since
they
> > became a couple that tension has fizzled and inspite of the efforts
on
> > the screen and by their fans no one can convince me that Tom has any
> > intention of commitment to B'Elanna, there is no evidence in his
manner.
>
> I have seen a few earlier episodes where this pairing had potential,
but the
> writers blew it. I would have dropped him on his not-so-fine arse
quicker
> than a hot potato. B'Elanna needs way more of a man.
YAY! I agree. Since the writers blew it, I think it's time that then
ended the charade and allowed both characters to move on. That way Harry
and B'Elanna can get together, and Tom can start competeing with
Chakotay for the attentions of Janeway, though that competition might be
a little slow, neither of them appears to be that keen on actually
participating in a relationship.
> > So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
>
> Some folks get into that blond, blue-eyed all-american stud look, but
not me
> ...
Phew! Self interest suddenly took over, I am definitely not the
all-american, though I do have fair hair and blue-grey eyes so I'm
clearly in the danger zone..<g>
> He needs a build more like Will Riker - THEN I might discuss appeal.
Ahhh.. yes, the late series Riker I hope, that gives me some
chance...<looks down at a "six pack" that's more like a 24 can case....
;-)
> Mic
> *puts on flamecoat*
No need for that, to need a flame retardant coat you need to say
something like....
Tom Paris is an immature jerk who treats B'Elanna with at best slight
interest and at worst total dis-interest. He deserves to be cleaning the
plasma conduits on deck 15 rather than sitting on the bridge. It is a
travesty that he get's his Lt pips back and Harry should hate his guts
for it. As far as his practical jokes are concerned, they are hurtful,
childish and unprofessional. Making Tom a mean little cuss with less
professionalism than my big toe and about as much maturity as your
average slice of processed cheese.
<grin>
OK, now *that* was trolling the parisites.
Arlie
Seven. He
> won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to
sit down
> at his table without even asking.
Yep, I think that they are kindred spirits, a friendship that we've seen
in other episodes, I think it's one we should see more of. <<
Ironically, in a 4th season interview, Garrett Wang said he thought they should
avoid too many Tuvok-Seven scenes. That the characters were so similar that
they would be boring together.
Maybe so, if we got a *lot* of Tuvok-Seven. But as it is, I can't imagine
Tuvok getting enough screen time to be boring. With anyone.
-- Arlie
EvilBill[AGQx]
news:nnX25.99
> > > T H H U U D D
> > > T HHHHH U U D D
> > > T H H U U D D
> > > T H H UUUUU DDDD
> >
> > Amen brother! Preach on! :)
>
>
> You two are crazy and I love you both!
>
*blush*
*smooch*
We love you too :)
EvilBill[AGQx]
> > *coronary-induced THUD*
>
> <grinning from ear to ear> Well, you DID ask, you know <veg>.
>
There are times when I wish I lived in that part of the world ;-)
Engaged Pie (aka Gordon)
> >>> But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and
> Seven. He
> > won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free
to
> sit down
> > at his table without even asking.
>
> Yep, I think that they are kindred spirits, a friendship that we've
seen
> in other episodes, I think it's one we should see more of. <<
>
> Ironically, in a 4th season interview, Garrett Wang said he thought
they should
> avoid too many Tuvok-Seven scenes. That the characters were so
similar that
> they would be boring together.
When Garret manages to turn in a season of consistently good
performances I'll apply more weight to his remarks. Until then his
rather strange views will be consigned to the trash, where they belong.
> Maybe so, if we got a *lot* of Tuvok-Seven. But as it is, I can't
imagine
> Tuvok getting enough screen time to be boring. With anyone.
Indeed.
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> In article <nnX25.99$RL1....@feed.centuryinter.net>, Lady Pie aka
> Michelle <LadyPi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > ROTFL! And it WAS hot today - even WITH the rain.....
>
It will probably rain on September 16 since we want an outside ceremony <g>.
Oh well. Rain is good <g>. BTW - Thanks and *thud* :-).
>
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> The luscious and passionate and MINE, Lady Pie aka Michelle wrote
> > EvilBill[AGQx] wrote
> > > "Lady Pie aka Michelle" wrote
> > > > Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you forgotten what "The Appeal of Tom Paris" brought us?
> > > > >
> > > > > Julianna's wardrobe, Stafish's bra size, the white bathing
> > > > > suit....hmmmmmm white bathing suit.........
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Halter tops,
>
> Hmmmm... shoulders, back and neck exposed, very attractive. All that
> bare flesh, just begging to be caressed and admired...
*beg beg* :-)
>
> > white cropped pants,
>
> Hmmm... luxuriant legs and thighs.. :-))
<shivers>
>
> > slipdresses that button up the front,
>
> and skim over the body, gently hugging it and showing off all the right
> curves, lovely!
:-)
>
> > short denim shorts,
>
> She wears short shorts!! ;-) More legs and thighs, the long lines of a
> calf and the sway of the hips as you walk...excellent.
*swaying hips just for you!*
>
> > thin chemises,
>
> Definitely a must on a hot night, light airy and flimsy. Perfect!
Hee hee .... *censored* <eg> How hot does it get there in Scotland in
August????
>
> > a white bathing suit
>
> <grin>
> well tanned body, dark hair.....Hmmmmmmmmm don't get it wet! Wait a
> minute, what the hell am I saying!? Where's that hose?
LOL! Oh yeah ...... <g>
>
> >and sometimes very little - depends........
>
> Hmmm... my favourite option of all...
>
> <smooch>
Mine too, funny enough <eg>.
>
>
>
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> The lovely, perky and marvellous, Lady Pie aka Michelle wrote
> > Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) wrote
Minx? you ARE learning my dear...
> **cut**
> > > > And *I* am here this summer........
> > > > white bathing suit indeed!
> > > > <eg>
> > >
> > > So you are, so you are.....Hmmm....<considers the benefits>
> > >
> > > :-))
> >
> > Uh huh....... <veg>. Benefits that might include yet another white
> bathing
> > suit?
>
> :-)
> Well, I might never be so bold to ask, but on the other hand, maybe I
> would be so bold..<g>
Be bold!
>
> > > <winking at Michelle>
> > > So what are *you* wearing today my love?
> > > <g>
> >
> > LOL! Today - nothing but a t-shirt with cats embroidered on it and
> gingham
> > bikinis.....
>
> <grin>
> <imagining the scene>
> Hmm... the T-shirt sounds *very* pretty and the bikinis tell me it must
> be very hot there.
Very hot...
I hope you have the air-conditioning turned *way*
> down. Though not too far...<grin>.
Not TOO far ...
Lots of bare leg and thigh to
> admire, arms to caress and a bare mid-rift should you stretch or bend.
> Lovely!!
Yep - lots of bare skin....
>
> <imagining myself beside you>
> ::THUD::
Hee hee - indeed!
>
> > with an anklet and a ring of course - they NEVER leave my
> > body. Oh - and a smile! :-))))))))
>
> <smooch>
> Of course not. And *very* soon you'll have another ring to join the one
> you already have, and then a few short weeks from then another to join
> that, matching one of my own.... Well, now I'm wearing a smile to match
> yours. :-)
YAY! Counting the days ...
>
>
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> EvilBill[AGQx] wrote
> > "Lady Pie aka Michelle" wrote
> > >
> > >
> >
Dang! My server is acting up so badly and I didn't get this post from Dev.
:-(... Oh, well. I am sure you could come up with something!
>
> I think I might shed some light on those things. a) Me, b) being married
> to me.
> ;-)
Okay - I like these options too! :-))))))
>
> > > > Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
> > >
> > > What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB,
> but
> > > .....
> >
> > I'm not bad. I'm evil. There's a difference ;-)
Very small difference - but evil IS good.
>
> You're evil in a Bill Gates sort of way, Tom is bad in a mis-behaving
> child sort of way?
LOL.
>
> > > I just never really got into the bad boy craze. Like James
> Dean...????
> > > The closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel'
> or two -
> > > like Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
> >
> > Heh, can I be a scoundrel? <eg>
You ARE a scoundrel....
>
> Not if you are evil Bill, you're too busy annoying the justice
> department.
<hehe> Are you trolling today? :-)
>
>
>
>
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> >
> > Well I wasn't around last year, so this should be good for me.
>
> Indeed. I hope so.
yeppers!
>
> > > Tom Paris.
> >
> > <yuck>
>
> LOL! Say what you mean my love, don't mince your words.
Do I ever? <eg>
>
> > > Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
> >
> > What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB,
> but
> > .....
>
> Not sure, but there is supposedly an appeal of the "bad boy".
I like you when you are bad - does that count?
>
> > I just never really got into the bad boy craze. Like James
> Dean...???? The
> > closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel' or
> two - like
> > Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
>
> Ah, a scoundrel, is that like a rogue?
Yep! A rouge .. <sigh>. Bet they wouldn't believe that you have a rougish
side to you, now would they?
> > > When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating
> teenage
> > > boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
> > > brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
> >
> > And the men who ever grow up from that....
>
> Indeed. Some me do seem to be stuck in that part of their past and
> unable to rise above it.
Their problem. I know a few examples.
>
> **cut**
> > I have seen a few earlier episodes where this pairing had potential,
> but the
> > writers blew it. I would have dropped him on his not-so-fine arse
> quicker
> > than a hot potato. B'Elanna needs way more of a man.
>
> YAY! I agree. Since the writers blew it, I think it's time that then
> ended the charade and allowed both characters to move on. That way Harry
> and B'Elanna can get together, and Tom can start competeing with
> Chakotay for the attentions of Janeway, though that competition might be
> a little slow, neither of them appears to be that keen on actually
> participating in a relationship.
true, so true.
>
> > > So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
> >
> > Some folks get into that blond, blue-eyed all-american stud look, but
> not me
> > ...
>
> Phew! Self interest suddenly took over, I am definitely not the
> all-american, though I do have fair hair and blue-grey eyes so I'm
> clearly in the danger zone..<g>
No danger zone there my love. You are far more man than Tom Paris could
ever even DREAM of being <g>. And I love your eyes.
>
> > He needs a build more like Will Riker - THEN I might discuss appeal.
>
> Ahhh.. yes, the late series Riker I hope, that gives me some
> chance...<looks down at a "six pack" that's more like a 24 can case....
> ;-)
Of course - the later Riker. I didn't like him in teh earlier episodes.
And I need more than just a six pack, so we are both in luck!
>
> > Mic
> > *puts on flamecoat*
>
> No need for that, to need a flame retardant coat you need to say
> something like....
:-)))
>
> Tom Paris is an immature jerk who treats B'Elanna with at best slight
> interest and at worst total dis-interest. He deserves to be cleaning the
> plasma conduits on deck 15 rather than sitting on the bridge. It is a
> travesty that he get's his Lt pips back and Harry should hate his guts
> for it. As far as his practical jokes are concerned, they are hurtful,
> childish and unprofessional. Making Tom a mean little cuss with less
> professionalism than my big toe and about as much maturity as your
> average slice of processed cheese.
>
> <grin>
> OK, now *that* was trolling the parisites.
>
LOL! But it was all so true! <ducks and runs>
>
EvilBill[AGQx]
> EvilBill[AGQx] wrote
> >
> > I know another thing or or two that might be "good for you" <vveg>
>
> to me.
> ;-)
>
I think there are a couple of other things too, but they and your
suggestions are mutually exclusive <g>
> >
> > I'm not bad. I'm evil. There's a difference ;-)
>
> You're evil in a Bill Gates sort of way, Tom is bad in a mis-behaving
> child sort of way?
>
Something like that <g>
Except that Bill Gates is a rank amateur ;-)
> >
> > Heh, can I be a scoundrel? <eg>
>
> Not if you are evil Bill, you're too busy annoying the justice
> department.
>
They are irrelevant.
EvilBill[AGQx]
> The luscious and passionate and MINE, Lady Pie aka Michelle wrote
> >
> > Halter tops,
>
> Hmmmm... shoulders, back and neck exposed, very attractive. All that
> bare flesh, just begging to be caressed and admired...
>
>
> Hmmm... luxuriant legs and thighs.. :-))
>
>
> and skim over the body, gently hugging it and showing off all the right
> curves, lovely!
>
>
> She wears short shorts!! ;-) More legs and thighs, the long lines of a
> calf and the sway of the hips as you walk...excellent.
>
>
> Definitely a must on a hot night, light airy and flimsy. Perfect!
>
>
> <grin>
> well tanned body, dark hair.....Hmmmmmmmmm don't get it wet! Wait a
> minute, what the hell am I saying!? Where's that hose?
>
<thinks of how Mic would look...>
To all of the above:
MEGA-THUD!
Arlie
seen
> in other episodes, I think it's one we should see more of. <<
>
> Ironically, in a 4th season interview, Garrett Wang said he thought
they should
> avoid too many Tuvok-Seven scenes. That the characters were so
similar that
> they would be boring together.
When Garret manages to turn in a season of consistently good
performances I'll apply more weight to his remarks. <<
I think he has. I'm very impressed with him as an actor, especially these last
few years. Well, considering that he and Tim Russ are winning the "least
screen time" competition.
Not that it matters. You know what they say -- those who can, do, those who
can't criticise. <g> His acting skills, good or bad, don't negate his
opinion. Any more than yours or mine do.
>> Until then his
rather strange views will be consigned to the trash, where they belong. <<
I don't think his views are strange. He's got a point. Characters that are
too similar are boring as a pairing. Like Paris and Torres. And even Seven
and the Doc, quite frankly. That's not to say that they can't have some
interesting scenes together, but too much of it quickly grows tiresome.
I'd just love to get that opportunity to Tuvok and Seven....
-- Arlie
Julianna Feigl
<LadyPi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Engaged Pie (aka Gordon) <sweetie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:mlc25.8641$1y5.1...@news3.cableinet.net...
>> OK, it's summer, I know we don't have a new episode for a while, and
>> *somehow* we need to get through this lean time for Voyagers.
>>
>> So, a blast from the past..... I though it was time to once again review
>> the roster of leading characters and in a shameless bid to get a nice
>> juicy debate going....
>
>Well I wasn't around last year, so this should be good for me.
>
>>
>> Tom Paris.
>
><yuck>
>>
>> Voyager's original bad boy. What is his appeal?
>
>What is ever the appeal of a 'bad boy'? Well except for Ta and EB, but
>.....
>
>I just never really got into the bad boy craze.
me neither. They aren't worth the effort anyway...
> Like James Dean...???? The
>closet thing I ever liked in a bad boy was maybe a 'scoundrel' or two - like
>Han Solo and Rhett Butler.
>
well... Rhett Butler was not really the bad boy - he had a heart, he
would have given her the moon and the stars if only she had let him.
>> When I look at his character I am reminded of those irritating teenage
>> boys who rush around school in little cliques, over confident, and
>> brusque, inconsiderate and self absorbed and juvenile.
>
>And the men who ever grow up from that....
>
didn't you want to write: "who *never* grow up"? :-)
>>
>> Tom is the ship's practical joker, and has seemingly become Neelix's
>> "partner" in crime. His friendship with Harry seems to be nothing more
>> than Harry's feeling of friendship and Tom's love of having someone to
>> play jokes on. There is a clear intention with Tom's character to
>> attempt to annoy each and every other crew member to what end I do not
>> yet understand. Even B'Elanna is not immune. The so-called "loving"
>> relationship that they have, is paper thin and as loving as the
>> relationship between a teenager and a pet, and probably as enduring. In
>> the early days before their relationship "blossomed" there was some
>> tension between the characters of a sexual or loving nature, since they
>> became a couple that tension has fizzled and inspite of the efforts on
>> the screen and by their fans no one can convince me that Tom has any
>> intention of commitment to B'Elanna, there is no evidence in his manner.
>
>I have seen a few earlier episodes where this pairing had potential, but the
>writers blew it. I would have dropped him on his not-so-fine arse quicker
>than a hot potato. B'Elanna needs way more of a man.
>
agreed!
>>
>> Tom Paris is the cheeky chappy of Voyager, the loveable rogue, except
>> he's not very loveable.
>>
>> I'm not attracted by the character in the least, he is simply not the
>> sort of person I would associate with.
>>
>> So, what *is* the appeal of Tom???? Is there one?
>
>Some folks get into that blond, blue-eyed all-american stud look, but not me
me neither. And I'm not going into the soft-boy look either...
>... He needs a build more like Will Riker - THEN I might discuss appeal.
>
>Mic
>*puts on flamecoat*
why? You are *sooo* right, my dear!
Julianna
--------
Tuvok:
The main reason to watch Voyager!
Julianna Feigl
>>>>I didn't mind "Fair Haven" too much. "Spirit Folk" I despised, but "Fair
>>Haven" had its moments. I didn't like the main plot of Janeway and her
>>hololover, but I liked the other crew interaction scenes. Janeway and
>Chuckles
>>talking to each other like the old friends they must surely be by now. Seven
>>getting picked up by Seamus in the bar. Tuvok and Seven in the mess hall.
>
>???? When he almost threw up?????????????????????? <<
>
>No, not that part. That part was lame. (And Tim acted it so convincingly it
>made me queasy just watching.)
>
yeah - he *always* does his best, no matter how terribly he is being
treated and how much the script shows the writers' contempt for him
and his character....
>But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and Seven. He
>won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit down
>at his table without even asking.
as if she ever asked *anybody* :-)
Julianna Feigl
<evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote:
>"Arlie" <arl...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
>>
>> But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and Seven. He
>> won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit
>down
>> at his table without even asking.
>>
>
>That's because he thinks Seven is more intelligent than the rest of the
>senior staff put together. <g>
who *would* want to sit with Tommy?????? With Seven at least he can
discuss nebula and other interesting phenomena...
EvilBill[AGQx]
And debate the merits (and otherwise) of Vulcan logic vs Borg perfection ;-)
Arlie
>won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit
down
>at his table without even asking.
as if she ever asked *anybody* :-) <<
She doesn't just sit down at Harry's table.
-- Arlie
Arlie
>senior staff put together. <g>
who *would* want to sit with Tommy?????? <<
Harry, apparently. He not only sits with Tom, they sit so close together
they're practically in each other's laps.
-- Arlie
Julianna Feigl
>>>> But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and
>Seven. He
>> won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to
>sit down
>> at his table without even asking.
>
>Yep, I think that they are kindred spirits, a friendship that we've seen
>in other episodes, I think it's one we should see more of. <<
>
>Ironically, in a 4th season interview, Garrett Wang said he thought they should
>avoid too many Tuvok-Seven scenes. That the characters were so similar that
>they would be boring together.
>
>Maybe so, if we got a *lot* of Tuvok-Seven. But as it is, I can't imagine
>Tuvok getting enough screen time to be boring. With anyone.
>
I bet Ronda would disagree...
seven.ofnine
of that calibre don't live near me, if they did,
well..........................
Seven
EvilBill[AGQx]
>
>
> Harry, apparently. He not only sits with Tom, they sit so close together
> they're practically in each other's laps.
>
You're surprised? <eg>
Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation
> "Arlie" <arl...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
> >
> > who *would* want to sit with Tommy?????? <<
> >
> > Harry, apparently. He not only sits with Tom, they sit
so close together
> > they're practically in each other's laps.
> >
>
We know you are. <eg>
EvilBill[AGQx]
message
>
> EvilBill[AGQx] <evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote in
> message news:D0i35.4828$LP4.7...@nnrp4.clara.net...
> >
>
> We know you are. <eg>
>
*a Vorlon cruiser arrives and nukes Ta' from orbit*
Merrick Baldelli
<evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote:
>That's because he thinks Seven is more intelligent than the rest of the
>senior staff put together. <g>
Bill, look up when you say that... Oh and you're drooling
dear. Get a nappie before you create a lake on the floor.
Merrick Baldelli
>Harry, apparently. He not only sits with Tom, they sit so close together
>they're practically in each other's laps.
Ahhh, true love..
EvilBill[AGQx]
Arlie
>they're practically in each other's laps.
Ahhh, true love.. <<
LOL. It really is queer. Er, I mean odd. <g> Tom and Harry almost always
sit next to each other in the mess hall - ever since the first season. Even
though, with those tiny little tables, it means their elbows are in each
other's plates, and you gotta wonder where they're putting their legs. Tom and
B'Elanna sit across from each other. Harry and Lindsay sit across from each
other. Harry and his nameless nonspeaking dinner companion in "Haunting" sit
across from each other. But Tom and Harry sit next to each other.
The better to share ice cream and plot against Tuvok, I guess.
-- Arlie
EvilBill[AGQx]
You wouldn't go for me, then... I'm short, skinny, dark-haired and bearded
<g>
Masked Man
|Tom and
|B'Elanna sit across from each other. Harry and Lindsay sit across from each
|other. Harry and his nameless nonspeaking dinner companion in "Haunting" sit
|across from each other.
Masked Man----->They're playing footsies.....
--
Who was that masked man?
kab...@7of.9
<seven....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>The appeal of Tom Paris is that he's a hot piece of ass, and that's it! Men
>of that calibre don't live near me, if they did,
>well..........................
**I met RDM at a convention last month and even though guys ain't my
thing, he was really cute, a lot shorter than I thought he'd be
though. I thought it was funny because he would leave his table and
run off to go buy comics and get stuff autographed.
kaboomie
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> "Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation" <tat...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> >
> > EvilBill[AGQx] <evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote in
> > message news:D0i35.4828$LP4.7...@nnrp4.clara.net...
> > >
> > > You jealous? <eg>
> >
> > We know you are. <eg>
> >
>
> *a Vorlon cruiser arrives and nukes Ta' from orbit*
No no no no no no NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> Men
> > of that calibre don't live near me, if they did,
> > well..........................
> >
>
> <g>
*THUD!*
Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation
> > >
> > > You jealous? <eg>
> >
> > We know you are. <eg>
> >
>
*a shadow screech is heard as 15 Shadow vessels appear
around the Vorlon crusier*
EvilBill[AGQx]
news:S7V35.251
>
> No no no no no no NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
muhahahaha...
EvilBill[AGQx]
bearded
> > <g>
>
> *THUD!*
>
You have strange taste in men... <g>
Short and scrawny???
EvilBill[AGQx]
> >
> > *a Vorlon cruiser arrives*
>
> *a shadow screech is heard as 15 Shadow vessels appear
> around the Vorlon crusier*
>
*and suddenly twenty more Vorlon cruisers and three Vorlon Planet Killers
come swarming out of the jump gate...*
Julianna Feigl
<evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote:
>"Julianna Feigl" <glacierqu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:39:45 +0100, "EvilBill[AGQx]"
>> <evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >That's because he thinks Seven is more intelligent than the rest of the
>> >senior staff put together. <g>
>>
>> who *would* want to sit with Tommy?????? With Seven at least he can
>> discuss nebula and other interesting phenomena...
>>
>
>And debate the merits (and otherwise) of Vulcan logic vs Borg perfection ;-)
or whatever... :-)
Julianna Feigl
>>>>But I liked the hint of friendship that we saw between Tuvok and Seven. He
>>won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit
>down
>>at his table without even asking.
>
>as if she ever asked *anybody* :-) <<
>
>She doesn't just sit down at Harry's table.
>
because the other seat there is occupied - by Tommyette! :-)
Julianna Feigl
>>>>That's because he thinks Seven is more intelligent than the rest of the
>>senior staff put together. <g>
>
>who *would* want to sit with Tommy?????? <<
>
>Harry, apparently. He not only sits with Tom, they sit so close together
>they're practically in each other's laps.
LOL!
But you know that Harry is a nice guy and even puts up with Tommy on
occasion (not always, like after the cow joke, but most of the
time...)
Julianna Feigl
>I think he has. I'm very impressed with him as an actor, especially these last
>few years. Well, considering that he and Tim Russ are winning the "least
>screen time" competition.
>
Yep, it's definitely those two - nobody else comes even close to their
records of invisibility....
>Not that it matters. You know what they say -- those who can, do, those who
>can't criticise. <g> His acting skills, good or bad, don't negate his
>opinion. Any more than yours or mine do.
and let's not forget: even if they don't give our boys the screentime
and give it to "certain actors" instead, it won't turn these people
into good actors just because they have screentime...
>>> Until then his
>rather strange views will be consigned to the trash, where they belong. <<
>
>I don't think his views are strange. He's got a point. Characters that are
>too similar are boring as a pairing. Like Paris and Torres. And even Seven
>and the Doc, quite frankly. That's not to say that they can't have some
>interesting scenes together, but too much of it quickly grows tiresome.
>
though I'd say that Torres is a *much* better character than Tommy...
>I'd just love to get that opportunity to Tuvok and Seven....
me too...
Merrick Baldelli
<seven....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>The appeal of Tom Paris is that he's a hot piece of ass, and that's it! Men
>of that calibre don't live near me, if they did,
>well..........................
Sure they do. You can typically find them in the trailer park
just outside of town.
Merrick Baldelli
<evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote:
>You wouldn't go for me, then... I'm short, skinny, dark-haired and bearded
><g>
If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're trolling for a new
girlfriend.
Arlie
He
>>won't sit with Tom and Harry in the mess hall, but Seven feels free to sit
>down
>>at his table without even asking.
>
>as if she ever asked *anybody* :-) <<
>
>She doesn't just sit down at Harry's table.
>
because the other seat there is occupied - by Tommyette! :-) <<
LOL! You mean she's assimilated the concept of "three's a crowd"? <g>
-- Arlie
Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation
> "Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation"
<tat...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> >
> > EvilBill[AGQx] <evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote in
> > message news:ygs35.11$2C6....@nnrp4.clara.net...
> > >
> > > *a Vorlon cruiser arrives*
> >
> > *a shadow screech is heard as 15 Shadow vessels appear
> > around the Vorlon crusier*
> >
>
> *and suddenly twenty more Vorlon cruisers and three Vorlon
Planet Killers
> come swarming out of the jump gate...*
Dumbass. Planet killers *dont* use jump gates...
Lady Pie aka Michelle
> bearded
> > > <g>
> >
> >
>
> You have strange taste in men... <g>
> Short and scrawny???
I like inner beauty ...
Lady Pie aka Michelle
Brian Barjenbruch <bri...@home.com> wrote in message
news:210620002128338965%bri...@home.com...
> In article <WJe45.357$RL1.1...@feed.centuryinter.net>, Lady Pie aka> That's good to hear...I definitely don't have any of it on the
> outside...
>
You might be surprised...
Empress of The Unknown
>"seven.ofnine"..wrote..
>> The appeal of Tom Paris is that he's a hot piece of ass, and that's it!
>Men
>> of that calibre don't live near me, if they did,
>> well..........................
>
>You wouldn't go for me, then... I'm short, skinny, dark-haired and bearded
><g>
But you're cute! :}
Empress of The Unknown
>"Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation"..wrote..
>> EvilBill[AGQx]..wrote..
>> > *a Vorlon cruiser arrives*
>>
>> *a shadow screech is heard as 15 Shadow vessels appear
>> around the Vorlon crusier*
>
>*and suddenly twenty more Vorlon cruisers and three Vorlon Planet Killers
>come swarming out of the jump gate...*
*one Gargantuan-Universal-Infinitive-MegaEmpire class ship titled "U.S.S.
Empress Rules" decloaks next to the mess of Ta's and EB's ships, a huge bay
door opens, the ship zips forward, swallowing the entire swarm of Ta's and EB's
ships and activating a jamming signal and dampening field within the gigantic
multi-type-multi-layered-and-multi-whatever-else-there-is-shielded
heavily-armored hangar, rendering transportation technology and weapons of all
kinds useless*
[Activate colossal viewscreen.]
[Image: Empress of The Unknown in long flowing tight black robes with mandarin
collar, long dark hair wound up intricately into a wide black headdress and
interwoven with delicate threads of pure silver and dotted with tiny diamonds
and a thick straight tress of hair on either shoulder held by a round silver
holder, eyes done Egyptian style and lips wine-colored]
[Empress over comm and loudspeakers in hangar] <echoing> "We are the Empress of
The Unknown. You will pledge allegiance to our Empress and our Empire. Through
assimilation, you shall become one with us. Your technological distinctiveness
will be added to our own. Your male leaders will be used for our Empress'
pleasure. Resistance is futile."
EvilBill[AGQx]
message> message news:HRY35.521$zN6....@nnrp4.clara.net...
> >
> > *and suddenly twenty more Vorlon cruisers and three Vorlon Planet
Killers
> > come swarming out of the jump gate...*
>
>
Why bother creating a jump point, when there's a jump-gate nearby? ;-)
Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation
> "Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation"
<tat...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> >
> > EvilBill[AGQx] <evilbill...@freeuk.com> wrote in
> > message news:HRY35.521$zN6....@nnrp4.clara.net...
> > >
> > > *and suddenly twenty more Vorlon cruisers and three
Vorlon Planet
> Killers
> > > come swarming out of the jump gate...*
> >
> > Dumbass. Planet killers *dont* use jump gates...
> >
>
> Why bother creating a jump point, when there's a jump-gate
nearby? ;-)
You mean *besides* the fact that THE PLANET KILLERS *CANT*
FIT THROUGH A JUMPGATE?!??!!??!?
Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation
Empress of The Unknown <jupit...@aol.compassion> wrote in
message news:20000622010720...@ng-cd1.aol.com...
> [Empress over comm and loudspeakers in hangar] <echoing>
"We are the Empress of
> The Unknown. You will pledge allegiance to our Empress and
our Empire. Through
> assimilation, you shall become one with us. Your
technological distinctiveness
> will be added to our own. Your male leaders will be used
for our Empress'
> pleasure. Resistance is futile."
<laughs>
<steps forward, removing hood from head>
<says softly, tho everyone can hear easily, even from far
away>
I am Darth Ta'Teria, Sith Lord, of the Usenet Order of the
Sith. You idle threats mean nothing to me. Your powers are
based in the Usenet, which is *my* power....
Your ship... is nothing.
~Jups ship dissapears, with all the other ships~
Your powers.... are nothing.
~Jup's robes morph into simple, cheap rags sewn together
piecemeal-ish~
And you... You... mean... Nothing...
~Jup fades away~
~Ta' dissapears~
Empress of The Unknown
[morbid smile]
>Empress of The Unknown..wrote..
>> [Empress over comm and loudspeakers in hangar] <echoing>
>"We are the Empress of
>> The Unknown. You will pledge allegiance to our Empress and
>our Empire. Through
>> assimilation, you shall become one with us. Your
>technological distinctiveness
>> will be added to our own. Your male leaders will be used
>for our Empress'
>> pleasure. Resistance is futile."
>
><laughs>
><steps forward, removing hood from head>
><says softly, tho everyone can hear easily, even from far
>away>
>I am Darth Ta'Teria, Sith Lord, of the Usenet Order of the
>Sith. You idle threats mean nothing to me. Your powers are
>based in the Usenet, which is *my* power....
>
>Your ship... is nothing.
>~Jups ship dissapears, with all the other ships~
>
>Your powers.... are nothing.
>~Jup's robes morph into simple, cheap rags sewn together
>piecemeal-ish~
::looks down at rags, then looks back up at Ta', wide-eyed::
>And you... You... mean... Nothing...
>~Jup fades away~
::open-mouthed stare as she fades::
>~Ta' dissapears~
Later that night..
[Scene: Ta's chamber]
::Troll Master Ta', in his black cotton Troll Master robe, walks to the
troll-master-size bed and sits on the comfortable mattress::
::Kicking off his slippers, he slips his feet under the warm black silk sheets,
drawing the rest of the sheet over himself::
::He stares at the ceiling, putting his arms up and under his head::
[Ta' hears the distant tinkling of wind-chimes, yet there is no other place and
no wind in this realm]
.-~* Concealed in the blackness of night, Jup makes her entrance into Ta's
chamber *~-.
::half floating, she leans over Ta', straddling his chest, but weightless::
[the blackness over Empress melts away into her own image, shadowed by the
blackness of the room but still visible]
::Empress' hands spring forth with the shocking swiftness of a striking snake
to wrap around Ta's neck; her fingers, the fangs which mercilessly pinch its
prey's flesh like a vice::
[her pupils flash with darkness, Ta's core essence slowly slipping into the
eternity of The Unknown]
Ta'! Ignorant child! You know nothing. ::fingernails dig deeper into Ta's
flesh, blood smearing on Empress' fingers:: Without me, All would be in chaos
and then cease to be. I cannot be destroyed, especially not by the likes of
you, mere inhabitor of your small conceptual universe. ::leans in close:: You
know not what you trifle with, TROLL... I am *darkness*, I am *anger*, I am
*hate*, I am *rage*, I am *war*, I am *bloodlust*, I am *death*, I am
*vengeance*, and I am *evil*. I...AM.....YIN.
[Empress lets out an ear-piercing shriek, one felt through all Ta's senses]
::Ta's body convulses, every cell stretching and contracting in contortions of
pain, and streams of pure emotion--all emotion--shoot through Ta'::
[In the scream, Empress steals the remaining light in the room. It draws up
toward her, collecting on her body and seeping inside. It stirs up the
blackness dwelling inside of her, clouding her skin with pure blackness,
including the whites of her eyes; the only color seen, the spaces between her
cells, and the deeper blackness with amber lightning flashing in her pupils]
::Ta' then watches Empress' image and essence dissolve into the air and the
walls and all that is, including Ta himself; Empress' body no longer seen, but
presence always felt, and scream always distantly heard. ..Ta', never in
silence, and never ever alone, essence forever entwined with his Uninvited
Eternal Companion::
Empress of The Unknown
>> And you... You... mean... Nothing...
>> ~Jup fades away~
>>
>> ~Ta' dissapears~
>
>[Empress' voice is heard]
>
>Computer, end program.
ROFL!! That's another way to end it.. hehe
Zabana Brandon
"Ta', 1/3 of the Janeway/Seven equation"..wrote..
>> > EvilBill[AGQx]..wrote..
>> > *a Vorlon cruiser arrives*
>>
>> *a shadow screech is heard as 15 Shadow vessels appear
>> around the Vorlon crusier*
>
>*and suddenly twenty more Vorlon cruisers and three Vorlon Planet killers
> >come swarming out of the jump gate...*
>
*one Gargantuan-Universal-Infinitive-MegaEmpire
class ship titled "U.S.S. Empress Drools" decloaks
next to the mass that is Ta and EB, a huge boy
door opens, the ship zippers forward, swallowing
the entire bowlful of Ta's and EB's chips and
activating a jamming signal and pampering field
within the gigantic multi-grain-multi-layered icing-
and-multi-whatever-else-there-is-shielded heavily-
liquored hangers, rendering transposition techno-pop
and pampers of all kinds useless*
[Activate colossal viewscreen.]
[Image: Empress of The Unknown in long flowing tight
black robes with a mandolin collie, long bark hair
wound up intricately into a wide black headrest and
interwoven with delicate treads of pure vegamite
and dotted with tiny neil diamonds and a thick
straight fortress of hair on either shoulder held
by a round silver platter, eyes done Walk Like an
Egyptian style and lips orange rind-colored]
[Empress over comm and loudspeakers in hangar]
<echoing> "We are the Empress of the Unknown.
We like to say NI! NI! NI! You will pledge
the floor until it's slippery for our Empress
and our Empire to slip and slide upon in socks.
Through humiliation, you shall become one with
us. Your technological rankness, because it's
stinky, will be addled like our own. Your mail
leaders will be used for our Empress' pleasure.
Resistance is furtive."
<eg>
EvilBill[AGQx]
bearded
> ><g>
>
> girlfriend.
>
Nah, just trolling. <g>
EvilBill[AGQx]
> >
> >You wouldn't go for me, then... I'm short, skinny, dark-haired and
bearded
> ><g>
>
I am?
EvilBill[AGQx]
> EB wrote:
>
> >> EvilBill[AGQx]..wrote..
>
> >> > *a Vorlon cruiser arrives*
> >>
> >> *a shadow screech is heard as 15 Shadow vessels appear
> >> around the Vorlon crusier*
> >
> >come swarming out of the jump gate...*
>
> *one Gargantuan-Universal-Infinitive-MegaEmpire class ship titled "U.S.S.
bay
EB's
> ships and activating a jamming signal and dampening field within the
gigantic
> multi-type-multi-layered-and-multi-whatever-else-there-is-shielded
all
> kinds useless*
>
> [Activate colossal viewscreen.]
> [Image: Empress of The Unknown in long flowing tight black robes with
> collar, long dark hair wound up intricately into a wide black headdress
and
> interwoven with delicate threads of pure silver and dotted with tiny
> and a thick straight tress of hair on either shoulder held by a round
silver
> holder, eyes done Egyptian style and lips wine-colored]
>
Empress of
Through
distinctiveness
> will be added to our own. Your male leaders will be used for our Empress'
> pleasure. Resistance is futile."
*suddenly, transwarp conduits open all around, and twenty THOUSAND immense
Borg battlecubes come charging out...*
WE ARE THE BORG. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
*EB grins; the cavalry has arrived just in time*
<g>
EvilBill[AGQx]
> > Short and scrawny???
>
>
So do I, but it would be nice if I had some outer beauty too. <g>