I can just imagine her making a quick trip to the market for milk on a 20
degree day, wearing her coat with tennis shoes. That would have everyone in
the store frozen in "awr." If the mob boss' s wife can't do it, and reap
envy, who can?
Phyllis Chamberlain
RC
hart
Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?
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Definitely. It's not the price of the bauble that's important, it's that
the bauble puts T in Carm's good graces again. I thought she wanted him
to be true, to be faithful, to care about her, etc. I guess she went for
what was behind door #2?
Bill L
What fun would I be? I'd be picketing hart for wearing the coat.
Heh.
Heh! I did!
>
>(I wonder what sable meat tastes like?)
Why, it depends on who is wearing the coat!
>--
>Bennet K. Langlotz
>ne...@langlotz.com
>i told my wife that if i was a woman, and someone gave me a coat
>like that, i would definitely wear it naked. i would, however,
>turn it inside out, first.....
hart, I have two excellent leads for you -- WildEarth and karens. But
I think they're going to insist on garters too.
Art ;-)
>What fun would I be? I'd be picketing hart for wearing the coat.
You beat me to that one!
;-)
(I wonder what sable meat tastes like?)
>At any rate, her bitching and whining really gets on my nerves sometimes,
>and I find myself wishing Tony *would* just haul off and smack the shit
>out of her...
Thanks for your candor, but this seems beneath you.
>(I wonder what sable meat tastes like?)
Isn't that rodent?
Art
>>(I wonder what sable meat tastes like?)
>
>Why, it depends on who is wearing the coat!
My wife had the same thought. I have no chance.
Art
Fess up now, Bennet, you just want to see hart naked.
Bill L <VBG>
I agree. Vulgar and tacky is the exact combination of words
Torris
"Rehab is for quitters"
> I thought she wanted him to be true, to be faithful,
> to care about her, etc. I guess she went for what
> was behind door #2?
As did Irina. "I don't want a Russian factory worker."
"He drives a limo." "Seventy five?"
And Meadow. "And if they do, fuck them. I'll cut them off."
>
>LB in StL wrote in message ...
>>I was surprised (something I should never by with this show!) by how easily
>>Carmela's mood turned to honey from the sour mood she was in by Tony's gift
>>of the coat. When it became apparent that he was going to take a fur out
>of
>>the bag, I thought she would shrug it off and not care. But she just went
>>crazy over it. I thought it was a pretty cheap price for Tony to pay to
>get
>>her in a good mood again.
>>
>You think a $20,000 floor-length sable coat, probably Russian sables, a
>cheap price?? For myself, in Southern California, I wouldn't know what to
>do with a fur coat, but for Carmela, on the East Coast, it's gotta be better
>than flowers and a box of candy. Notice how capacious it was? She could
>play in it. Nothing cheap about that coat--or that pacification.
Isn't it tres gauche these days to be wearing such an ostentatious
type coat?
We're on the same wavelength here.
With Carmela's little speech to Meadow we're seeing Meadow beginning to
become a mob daughter, probably in training to become a mob wife. It'll
be interesting to see how college affects our Meadow.
Bill L
I think it depends on your circle of friends, not everyone belongs to
PETA. There are women in NYC who'd sleep with the NBA and/or trade you
their mothers for a coat like that.
Bill L
It's a marten, related to the weasel. Found mostly along the
Canadian/US border and in the Pacific Northwest, New England, other
places in Canada. In some places, they're considered pests...
"The American marten is a long, slender-bodied animal about the size
of a mink with relatively large, rounded ears, short limbs, and a
bushy tail, with considerable individual variation in coat colour
(Clark et al. 1987). The long, silky, dense fur ranges in colour from
pale yellowish buff to tawny brown to almost black (Clark et
al. 1987). Individual martens have multiple markings that vary in
size, location, and colour. Most martens are a tawny -brown with a
darker chest and lighter belly. Martens are medium-sized members of
the weasel family, weighing from 500 to 2000 g as adults depending on
sex and region..."
--
-[stark]-
"say it. say it."
"your kung fu is the best..."
Like Chicken, of course.:)
Chicken.
TJ
Leo
>I think it depends on your circle of friends, not everyone belongs to
>PETA. There are women in NYC who'd sleep with the NBA and/or trade you
>their mothers for a coat like that.
It is indeed very regional. Moving from California to Chicago in the
lat 80s, I was amazed that people still wore fur coats. They do all
the time, the stores are everywhere, and no one was ashamed, or blood
splattered by the tie-dye set.
Not much fur here in Portland OR. A little, but not much. Mostly
older ladies at the opera, and such.
>"The American marten is a long, slender-bodied animal about the size
>of a mink with relatively large, rounded ears, short limbs, and a
>bushy tail, with considerable individual variation in coat colour
>(Clark et al. 1987). The long, silky, dense fur ranges in colour from
>pale yellowish buff to tawny brown to almost black (Clark et
>al. 1987). Individual martens have multiple markings that vary in
>size, location, and colour. Most martens are a tawny -brown with a
>darker chest and lighter belly. Martens are medium-sized members of
>the weasel family, weighing from 500 to 2000 g as adults depending on
>sex and region..."
>
Yeah, but how does it taste?
Art
Those of us living on the I 5 corridor don't need fur Bennet, it dosen't get
cold enough.
RC
well...like the others said, probably like chicken! :)
Actually, I wonder. I assume it would taste like other small, gamey
animals, but it's been a long time since I had rabbit, much less
anything like small field game.
Anyone? What the hell do squirrels and so forth taste like? It's
gotta be close to that.
Artie could *kissy noise* make such a dish! :)
When Tony first came into the room, she was barely looking at him or paying
attention to him. He seemed really eager to give her this gift, and I for
one was glad that she gushed over it. If she shrugged it off, considering
how eager Tony was to give her a surprise, the gulf between them would have
widened.
**Meiya**
>Actually, I wonder. I assume it would taste like other small, gamey
>animals, but it's been a long time since I had rabbit, much less
>anything like small field game.
Actually, you've now put me in mind of the time that I ordered wild
hare (yeah, yeah, it wasn't up my...) from the butcher shop in
Greenwich Village (name escapes me -- great shop).
Strong? Gamey? The meat was purple!! No sable for me thanks. I'd
rather have the Richie.
Art
-stark- <j...@nospam.kenefick.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.135d3e81e...@news.newsguy.com...
> hey, look, arsl...@mediaone.net said...
> > Yeah, but how does it taste?
> >
>
> well...like the others said, probably like chicken! :)
>
> Actually, I wonder. I assume it would taste like other small, gamey
> animals, but it's been a long time since I had rabbit, much less
> anything like small field game.
>
>
>(I wonder what sable meat tastes like?)
You mean the ex-wrestler named Sable? Yeah, I bet her meat taste good!
>I was surprised (something I should never by with this show!) by how easily
>Carmela's mood turned to honey from the sour mood she was in by Tony's gift
>of the coat. When it became apparent that he was going to take a fur out of
>the bag, I thought she would shrug it off and not care. But she just went
>crazy over it. I thought it was a pretty cheap price for Tony to pay to get
>her in a good mood again.
Remember when she came out of the bathroom wearing nothing but the fur
coat? How many of you grabbed the lube hoping she'd drop that fur and show
us her goodies? I was so ready for that!
>I can't really see why Carm was so impressed with that coat.
>After all, since she knows that Tony is a mafia boss, she surely
>must realize that the coat is probably stolen, and didn't cost
>hima dime. Maybe she's just grateful and releaved to find
>out that he still loves her.
Love? Please, Carm is the classic golddigger. She may not have married an
old man for his money ala whatshername but she knew Tone came from a mob
family and could provide her with a comfortable living. Love? BWAHAHA!!!!
>Squirrels are much like Duck, milder flavor.... I know it sounds strange,
>but thats all I can think of that is anywhere close to the taste. They are
>quite good, esp. Friccasied... (sp?)
In Arkansas I'm sure you can get squirrel on a stick at ballgames and
banjo hootenany's. Otter pops in that area take on a whole new meaning
:-)
HEY watch it there fella. Us bumpkins down here in Elvisland don't take too
kindly to you high falutin' city folk gettin' all uppity!
The best sable (as in sable coats) come from Russia (assuming "Gorky
Park" provided the straight scoop). They're not pests there, but a major
source of hard currency.
Bill L
Ottomanelli's, I'll wager:-) (on Bleeker St)
Bill L
Haven't had squirrel, but have eaten rabbit a few times (my grandmother
ate such stuff). No kidding, it did taste like chicken (45 or so years
ago).
Bill L
>> Actually, you've now put me in mind of the time that I ordered wild
>> hare (yeah, yeah, it wasn't up my...) from the butcher shop in
>> Greenwich Village (name escapes me -- great shop).
>
>Ottomanelli's, I'll wager:-) (on Bleeker St)
Absolutely Bill, great shop, but stay away from the wild hare!!
Art
arslarga wrote in message...:
>
>>> Actually, you've now put me in mind of the time that I ordered wild hare
(yeah, yeah, it wasn't up my...) from the butcher shop in Greenwich Village
(name escapes me -- great shop).
wblynch replied...
Ottomanelli's, I'll wager:-) (on Bleeker St)
>Absolutely Bill, great shop, but stay away from the wild hare!!
>
>Art
>
Okay, that's it. You guys know everything. If I am ever on "Who wants to be a
millionaire" you two are going to be my phone a friend lifelines
:))
>Okay, that's it. You guys know everything. If I am ever on "Who wants to be a
>millionaire" you two are going to be my phone a friend lifelines
Bill plays the ukelele too.
Art
This is interesting. If hart gets permission from his wife, sister and mother
to get away and she say's yes, then we can get Bill and hart to play "dueling
banjo's" while I cook 'em up some hare and possum...
Invite is open to all...
:))
Bill Lynch wrote:
> Bill L]
Reminds me of the scene in Roger and Me where they were eating rabbits for food
in Flint Michigan after so many GM layoffs.
Robert
CupCaked wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:17:55 GMT, tor...@uswest.net (Torris) wrote:
>
> >Isn't it tres gauche these days to be wearing such an ostentatious
> >type coat?
>
> These things run in cycles. We're beginning to see an upsurge in the
> wearing of real fur coats this season (in the cooler climates,
> naturally) and the "pooh-pooh" factor isn't as strong, nor the
> drooling Left as irritated, these days.
Probasbly depends on where you live. Here in Utah, the Vegans and Animal
Rights Liberation groups have bombed mink farms and slaughterhouses.
But then Utah's at least five to fifty years behind the times, so maybe
that's about right compared to the rest of the world
Robert
>> These things run in cycles. We're beginning to see an upsurge in the
>> wearing of real fur coats this season (in the cooler climates,
>> naturally) and the "pooh-pooh" factor isn't as strong, nor the
>> drooling Left as irritated, these days.
>
>Probasbly depends on where you live. Here in Utah, the Vegans and Animal
>Rights Liberation groups have bombed mink farms and slaughterhouses.
>But then Utah's at least five to fifty years behind the times, so maybe
>that's about right compared to the rest of the world
Where was it, Idaho, maybe, that the teenage kids killed every animal
in a rescue shelter and the town just shrugged it off as high spirits?
Take heart, your beloved state is at least in this century.
Art
>Let's face it: Carmela is a character rife with contradictions. She wants
>to hold Tony to some higher standard of morality that she imagines herself
>to be adhering to, when in fact, her morals only come into play when it's
>either convenient for her, or she can use them as a weapon to attack Tony.
In other words, she's written like a real person. Who doesn't have a
double standard, at least to some degree?
--
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userb3
On 10 Apr 2000 23:04:41 GMT, RCLOVELY wrote:
>I think that coat is vulger and tacky. It is a horrible color, to big, to long
>and the cuffs are to wide. I would never wear that coat. And, ladies, how is
>that for a sour grape?
>
>RC
All of us, of course, but Carmela's is pretty extreme.
Bill L
Hey Carm is definately a "material girl". I wasn't surprised at all.
sann
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Before you buy.
>>In other words, she's written like a real person. Who doesn't have a
>>double standard, at least to some degree?
>
>Of course. But when it comes to someone falsely believing in their
>own moral superiority, it just doesn't sit very well with me.
I'm surrounded by people who consider themselves morally superior.
Besides - who are you to pass judgement on Carmella? Are you not
felling morally superior?
userb3
Carmella was not in a sour mood, she was busy. She was trying to orginise
something for the graduation and was distracted. Does a woman have to drop
everything she is doing just to pay attention to a man when he wants attention?
> Carm is definately a "material girl".
Tony comes in with a Sable coat that_ he_ bought and she is a "material girl?"
Come On!
RC
>Not hardly. How does it equate that remarking on someone else's inflated
>sense of their own superiority means that one must feel the same way?
You weren't remarking. You were condemning.
>Haven't had squirrel, but have eaten rabbit a few times (my grandmother
>ate such stuff). No kidding, it did taste like chicken (45 or so years ago).
Does anyone remember the scene in "The Matrix" where they're talking
about why everything "tastes like chicken"?
-Kenny "the Matrix has you" Crudup
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>>I think that coat is vulger and tacky. It is a horrible color, to big, to long
>>and the cuffs are to wide. I would never wear that coat. And, ladies, how is
>>that for a sour grape?
In article <hfreozlqrwnpbz....@news.alt.net>,
"userb3" <use...@my-deja.com> says:
>Yeah, my wife said the same thing to me.
>I think she's hoping I have a Russian girlfriend somewhere she can get mad
>at me for.
I hope you're not gonna be insensitive and disappoint her!
-Kenny "just hide the Halcion" Crudup
don't you mean the sable coat that Tony stole? Tony's peace offering
totally played into Carmela's materialism and got him out of the
doghouse. So much for sticking to your convictions Carm. You go girl!
No, I've been out felling trees.
Bill L :-)
The sour mood is not her being busy with graduation. It's from the last
2-3 weeks.
> > Carm is definately a "material girl".
>
> Tony comes in with a Sable coat that_ he_ bought and she is a "material girl?"
> Come On!
You come on, buying the coat for Carmela does not make Tony a
materialistic pig. Buying another boat, that's a different matter.
Bill L
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:03:56 -0400, Mr Bakala <bakal...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>If she wears that fur to grocery shop, then she is as tacky as I always thought
>she was (the character, not the wonderful actress).
>
>Phyllis Chamberlain wrote:
>
>> LB in StL wrote in message ...
>> >I was surprised (something I should never by with this show!) by how easily
>> >Carmela's mood turned to honey from the sour mood she was in by Tony's gift
>> >of the coat. When it became apparent that he was going to take a fur out
>> of
>> >the bag, I thought she would shrug it off and not care. But she just went
>> >crazy over it. I thought it was a pretty cheap price for Tony to pay to
>> get
>> >her in a good mood again.
>> >
>> You think a $20,000 floor-length sable coat, probably Russian sables, a
>> cheap price?? For myself, in Southern California, I wouldn't know what to
>> do with a fur coat, but for Carmela, on the East Coast, it's gotta be better
>> than flowers and a box of candy. Notice how capacious it was? She could
>> play in it. Nothing cheap about that coat--or that pacification.
>>
>> I can just imagine her making a quick trip to the market for milk on a 20
>> degree day, wearing her coat with tennis shoes. That would have everyone in
>> the store frozen in "awr." If the mob boss' s wife can't do it, and reap
>> envy, who can?
>>
>> Phyllis Chamberlain
>
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My apologies
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:59:16 GMT, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
>In article <38F7F007...@worldnet.att.net>,
>Bill Lynch <wbl...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Userb3 wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm surrounded by people who consider themselves morally superior.
>>> Besides - who are you to pass judgement on Carmella? Are you not
>>> felling morally superior?
>>
>>No, I've been out felling trees.
>
>You know, I was tempted myself to say something like, "That's right, I
>enjoy felling the morally superior. I use a scythe and whack them just
>below the knees", or something to that effect, but I thought, "Nah, I'll
>let it pass". :-)
>--
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>http://members.home.net/conrads/
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>>I think she's hoping I have a Russian girlfriend somewhere she can get mad
>>at me for.
>
>I hope you're not gonna be insensitive and disappoint her!
Unlike Tony, mere sex wouldn't sway me. But if I can find a Russian
girl who'll make me Pelmeni and Piroshkis, I'll keep my furrier's
number handy!
userb3
Hey, I didn't say that being a material girl was a *bad* thing :)
For some reason I thot Tony gave her the coat for Meadow's graduation.
Esp. since Carm raises the kids and takes care of the household
herself--which is great.
He said something about he owes Meadow's getting into college all to
Carmella. Little does he know--that pie worked wonder--huh? <smirk>
Sandra
--
"He kept saying I didn't listen to him, or something like that."
Jennie
P.S. Count me in on the picket line, Wildearth.>
Hey, thanks!
>
>Jennie
>
>P.S. Count me in on the picket line, Wildearth.>
No way! That's probably hart's fantasy....two girls picketing him at one
time!
<no, offense hart!>
WildE
Only if you can't afford one!
RC
Maybe it's a generational thing or something. I think to most people I
run with, being out in a fur coat like that isn't impressive but tacky
and tawdry