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ctakim

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Did you notice that Richie dissed Paulie and Silvio when they told him
he had to build the ramp? (the lionel train and all that). So what are
the rules here? Richie is a capo but how much can he disrespect Sil
and Paulie. And what are Sil and Paulie's titles? Are they capos
(without their own crews?).
Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace

Mark

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ctakim wrote:
> Did you notice that Richie dissed Paulie and Silvio when they told him
> he had to build the ramp? (the lionel train and all that). So what are
> the rules here? Richie is a capo but how much can he disrespect Sil
> and Paulie. And what are Sil and Paulie's titles? Are they capos
> (without their own crews?).

According to the "family tree",
Silvio and Paulie are soldiers.

DPSweet7

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Silvio and Paulie are capos. Remember the scene between Tony and Paulie at the
Lou Costello Memorial a couple of weeks back?

Tony said that he was "bumping up" Paulie and Sil. When Paulie asked about
Pussy, Tony said that he and Furio reported directly to them.

So Tony is Boss, Sil and Paulie are Capos and Furio and Pussy are soldiers.

Richie's role is a little unclear to me. We know he is a capo (and maybe was
one when he was sent upstate) back when his brother ran things and seems tight
with Junior's crew. Although everything that was once Junior's is now Tony's,
perhaps Richie was "grandfathered in."

I hope this helps.

Scrollkey1

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Although it hasn't been spelled out, I took the scene at Lou Costello Park to
mean that Tony was now the boss, Paulie and Silvio were either co-underbosses
or underboss and consigliere (Tony told Paulie that he and Silvio were getting
bumped, equals.)
Richie is a capo (Tony told him at the mall that he was getting back all that
he had when he went in, so he was obviously a capo before),
Pussy was a capo, but may have been broken back down to soldier. Or he may be
still be a capo.

Cheers,
Russ McDermott
(delete "nospam" from address to send e-mail)

JP

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richie is not a capo. paulie is a capo and every capo has a crew of
soilders and paulie's crew is pussy, christopher, and furio. the family
tree on the website is out of date.


Jesse Ventura <YOURPANTIESOF...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:51:02 GMT, Mark <eng...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> >According to the "family tree",
> >Silvio and Paulie are soldiers.
>

> And Tony is what? If Silvio and Paulie are just soldiers, they had no
> right telling Richie to build the ramp. Soldiers do not give capos
> instructions and or orders.
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - -
> Take "YOUR PANTIES OFF" to email me.
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dv

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In article <38c6...@news.eclipse.net>, "JP"

<devi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>richie is not a capo. paulie is a capo and every capo has a
crew of
>soilders and paulie's crew is pussy, christopher, and furio.
the family
>tree on the website is out of date.

Richie IS a capo, Paulie said so specifically in that episode,
remember? "Richie you're a captain now".

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DPSweet7

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And Christopher is NOT a soldier. He is not a made guy. Christopher is just
an "earner" with obviously a very special tie to Tony.

Avenging Christopher's shooting is purely personal. Even though Richie
probably did not have anything to do with his shooting, it shouldn't really
matter. Whoever Richie decides to kill is his own business, as long as it is
not another made guy.

The politics of this may be interesting down the line. Even though we all want
to see Richie popped, the bottom line is he is a made guy and Christopher
isn't.

A fact that Uncle Junior or even Richie may use if Tony seeks revenge.

Andrew Johnston

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In article <20000308105538...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
scrol...@aol.comnospam (Scrollkey1) wrote:

I don't think Pussy was ever a capo--that would mean he was Tony's equal
in season one, which clearly wasn't the case. Most of the other capos
didn't get much screen time in the first season.

LambyO

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In Season One - according to the FBI bulletin board - Tony, Junior, Ray Curto,
Larry Baresi and Jimmy "The Rat" Altieri were capos. Since Jimmy's gone, and
Tony and Junior are (boss/capo, capo/boss), there's room for more at the top -
Tony said Paulie and Silvio were partners (or words to that effect). Maybe they
share a crew? If Tony isn't a capo anymore then his crew becomes
Silvio/Paulie's crew.......Pussy, Furio, the cute guy that killed that old guy
in the caddy after the trip to Newark Airport. I guess Christopher comes next
down the line......who else is equal to Christopher?
A~
This is a dark ride...........

BartCop

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On 08 Mar 2000 18:38:57 GMT, dpsw...@aol.com (DPSweet7) wrote:

>And Christopher is NOT a soldier. He is not a made guy. Christopher is just
>an "earner" with obviously a very special tie to Tony.


All I know is Tony told Paulie, "There's a new pecking order."
He said that everybody went thru Silvio and Paulie to get to Tony.

Is anybody over Tony?
If he wants to whack somebody, does he need permission?


Stolen joke:
What to Al Gore and Tony have in common?
They're both going to destroy a man named "Junior."


bartcop
bartcop.com
political humor


Harold Johnson

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Silvio and Paulie, the soldiers, was carrying Tony's instructions to Richie.
So, in essence, they were not giving orders to Richie.

Harold

Scrollkey1

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No one in a family can whack anyone, made or not, without the OK from the boss.
Richie, even though he is a capo, cannot whack anyone unless Tony says so.
At one time, hits had to go through the Commission. No more. But the family
boss has to give an OK. You hit anyone without that OK and you can get hit. Of
course, it depends on who you hit and who you are. In the mob, kust as in real
life, some people are allowed more latitude.
Junior is now just a figurehead boss. Tony is the real boss. The situation is
like that of the Genovese family where Phil Lombardo was the real boss and
allowed Eli Ziccardi and then Funzi Tieri to act as boss. Even many members of
the family thought they were bosses, but Lombardo was the real boss. Later,
Chin Gigante allowed Fat Tony Slaerno , who had briefly been boss before his
stroke, to remain as figurehead boss while Gigante was the real boss. The other
families' bosses didn't even know until a couple of years before the Commission
trial.
BTW, I thought the HBO family tree said Pussy was a Capo.

ctakim

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Right, that's what they were before Tony bumped them up in the post
Italy episode this season. So what are they now? Soldiers with a
higher rank?

On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:51:02 GMT, Mark <eng...@geocities.com> wrote:

>ctakim wrote:
>> Did you notice that Richie dissed Paulie and Silvio when they told him
>> he had to build the ramp? (the lionel train and all that). So what are
>> the rules here? Richie is a capo but how much can he disrespect Sil
>> and Paulie. And what are Sil and Paulie's titles? Are they capos
>> (without their own crews?).
>

>According to the "family tree",
>Silvio and Paulie are soldiers.

Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace

ctakim

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I think you are right on everything, except for Pussy being a capo.
Silvio was not a capo during season one. Remember Jimmy the Rat's last
words (or second to last words). "What the f*ck? You guys forget I'm a
capo?" to Sil and Chris.

On 08 Mar 2000 15:55:38 GMT, scrol...@aol.comnospam (Scrollkey1)
wrote:

>Although it hasn't been spelled out, I took the scene at Lou Costello Park to
>mean that Tony was now the boss, Paulie and Silvio were either co-underbosses
>or underboss and consigliere (Tony told Paulie that he and Silvio were getting
>bumped, equals.)
> Richie is a capo (Tony told him at the mall that he was getting back all that
>he had when he went in, so he was obviously a capo before),
>Pussy was a capo, but may have been broken back down to soldier. Or he may be
>still be a capo.
>

>Cheers,
>Russ McDermott
>(delete "nospam" from address to send e-mail)

Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace

ctakim

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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Can you name the capos under Jackie Aprile?

On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:04:21 -0800, Andrew Johnston
<and...@echonyc.com> wrote:

>In article <20000308105538...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,

>scrol...@aol.comnospam (Scrollkey1) wrote:
>
>> Although it hasn't been spelled out, I took the scene at Lou Costello
>> Park to
>> mean that Tony was now the boss, Paulie and Silvio were either
>> co-underbosses
>> or underboss and consigliere (Tony told Paulie that he and Silvio were
>> getting
>> bumped, equals.)
>> Richie is a capo (Tony told him at the mall that he was getting back all
>> that
>> he had when he went in, so he was obviously a capo before),
>> Pussy was a capo, but may have been broken back down to soldier. Or he
>> may be
>> still be a capo.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Russ McDermott
>> (delete "nospam" from address to send e-mail)
>

>I don't think Pussy was ever a capo--that would mean he was Tony's equal
>in season one, which clearly wasn't the case. Most of the other capos
>didn't get much screen time in the first season.

Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace

ctakim

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I don't get it. I thought the "W" had a different middle name than
George Herbert Walker Bush.

On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:58:52 GMT, bar...@mindspring.com (BartCop)
wrote:

Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace

Bill Lynch

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ctakim wrote:
>
> I don't get it. I thought the "W" had a different middle name than
> George Herbert Walker Bush.

Dubya's not a Junior.

Bill L

LambyO

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>>Can you name the capos under Jackie Aprile?
<<

Is this the question of the week? :)
Tony Soprano
Corrado Soprano
Jimmy Altieri
Ray Curto
Larry Baresi

LiliLove1

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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lambyo wrote:

<someone else wrote>

>>>Can you name the capos under Jackie Aprile?
><<
>
>Is this the question of the week? :)

And while we're on *that* subject, has anyone REALLY won that sopranos giveaway
thing.... cuz every week I answer it and EVERY week i have it right, and I have
*yet* to recieve my Sopranos post it notes. ;-)


Best,

Lili

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Bill Lynch

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LiliLove1 wrote:
>
(snip)

> >
> >Is this the question of the week? :)
>
> And while we're on *that* subject, has anyone REALLY won that sopranos giveaway
> thing.... cuz every week I answer it and EVERY week i have it right, and I have
> *yet* to recieve my Sopranos post it notes. ;-)

I won it a few weeks back and about two weeks later received a
"Sopranos" soundtrack CD and key ring (which sounds lame but isn't - the
fob has "Sopranos" in heavy raised letters (same font as the show) and
"HBO" in smaller recessed letters).

Bill L

LambyO

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>>I won it a few weeks back and about two weeks later received a "Sopranos"
soundtrack CD and key ring (which sounds lame but isn't - the fob has
"Sopranos" in heavy raised letters (same font as the show) and "HBO" in smaller
recessed letters).
Bill L<<
I won too and got an email the other day saying my prize was shipped - I'm now
stalking the mailman :)

Bill Lynch

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Sounds like the same protocol. Is your email from Bernie Rodrigues (or
something like that)?

Bill L

LambyO

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>>Sounds like the same protocol. Is your email from Bernie Rodrigues (or
something like that)?

Bill L
<<

Got my stuff last nite!! CD and great key chain!!

MH10262

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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I believe that now Paulie and Sil are Lieutenants...one step under Capo.

Scrollkey1

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>I believe that now Paulie and Sil are Lieutenants...one step under Capo.

There is no such rank in the mob. Although capos are sometimes referred to as a
"loyal lieutenant" or some such, the ranking goes:
Boss
Underboss
Consigliere (equal with underboss)
Capo
Soldier
Associate

LambyO

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>>Boss
Underboss
Consigliere (equal with underboss)
Capo
Soldier
Associate<<

What about "street boss", which was what Tony was listed as in one of the eps
by the FBI (same as underboss?)

Scrollkey1

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Street boss is a term the FBI sometimes uses to mean acting boss if the real
family boss is incapacitated or imprisoned.
For example, they referred to Liborio "Barney" Bellomo as street boss of the
Genovese family after he became acting boss when Vincent Gigante was convicted.
Now the acting boss is Dom Cirillo, since Bellomo went to prison.
In Chicago, however, the Crime Commission does refer to some senior soldiers
and associates of the Outfit as street bosses. This is not an "offficial" rank
as the title designates not only made men, but powerful associates and
non-italians. The Crime Commission uses the term to indicate Outfit guys who
are not made Capos, but who have more responsibility and power, particularly in
a certain area of the city. For example, before he rolled, Lenny Patrick, who
was an important Outfit member but could never be a made man, was referred to
as the street boss of the Far North Side (mostly Jewish neighborhoods.) This
was his territory and he ran it as if he were a capo.

ctakim

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Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
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Yo, t'anks for the knowledgable posts!

On 12 Mar 2000 17:57:33 GMT, scrol...@aol.comnospam (Scrollkey1)
wrote:

Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace

Tiggerbob

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>Boss
>Underboss
>Consigliere (equal with underboss)
>Capo
>Soldier
>Associate

Forgive the stupid question
How can Tony be a Capo when he is the head of the Jersey family? Is it because
the Jersey family is an offset of New York?

Scrollkey1

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Not a stupid question at all.
Tony was a capo in the New Jersey family, which is an independent family. He is
now the boss, though the FBI does not know that for sure.
The FBI thinks Junior is the boss and Tony is acting boss while Junior was in
jail and is now under house arrest. In fact, Junior is no longer anything but a
figurehead. Tony lets most everyone else think Junior is still boss to draw
heat away from Tony.
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