"Boca" (spoilers)

[Patty Winter]

I love the ending of this episode because it really shows the
dilemma that Tony is in. In refusing to have Coach Hauser
murdered, he demonstrates humanity--but that isn't necessarily
a desirable trait in a mob leader.

On the one hand, Tony is proud of what he's done ("I didn't
hurt nobody"), but the fact that he mixed his Prozac with
alcohol indicates that he also wants to escape from the
situation and not think about it (and, presumably, about
what it might mean for the future of his career).

Of course, he in fact *did* hurt people. Coach Hauser's
family was hurt, but that was unavoidable. And Tony was
probably completely unaware of the severe consequences
his teasing of Junior on the golf course had. Still, at
least he did pull back from having someone killed.

Patty

[Jenny Igoe]

LambyO wrote in message <19990805202908...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>I found it interesting that Tony had to get blitzed after making the
decision
>not to kill Hauser. Most people would behave the opposite.

In my opinion, he had to get blitzed to "burn off" the excess energy and
urge to kill Hauser after he decided not to. He wanted to, very badly, and
was moments away from it, when he realized his old friend was right: the
only person it would help would be Tony. He didn't get relief by killing
the guy, so he got bombed. Makes sense to me.

--Jenny

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[Julius Georgedes]

Tony's need to get blitzed after making the decision not to kill Hauser does
not suprise me at all, as a matter of fact I thought it was a nice touch of
realism. I've never had to decide whether, or not, someone got whacked, but
I've had a bit of a violent past myself. Whenever I've made the intelligent
decision not to whomp on someone who seriously needed I've all but gotten
physicaly ill afterwards. Adrenelin is a powerful substance. Deciding not
to kill Hauser was a very difficult decision for Tony, not one that came
naturally. And it clearly caused him a great deal of conflict.

LambyO <lam...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:19990805202908...@ng-ch1.aol.com...

> I found it interesting that Tony had to get blitzed after making the
decision
> not to kill Hauser. Most people would behave the opposite.

> Andrea

> >>On the one hand, Tony is proud of what he's done ("I didn't hurt
nobody"),
> but the fact that he mixed his Prozac with
> alcohol indicates that he also wants to escape from the situation and not
think
> about it (and, presumably, about
> what it might mean for the future of his career).<<

> A~
> I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message . . . .

[Julius Georgedes]

[Pete B.]

I think he realized he had screwed up by telling his shrink about it. I
think he believed she would have ratted him had he whacked the guy. That's
why he got drunk - he had boxed himself in.

Hopefully coach will move to Maine where Tony will garrote him on a weekend
visit to see his daughter. (-:

Pete B.

Jenny Igoe wrote in message <7odaqi$ofm$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>...

>LambyO wrote in message <19990805202908...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...

>>I found it interesting that Tony had to get blitzed after making the
>decision
>>not to kill Hauser. Most people would behave the opposite.
>
>

[LambyO]

I found it interesting that Tony had to get blitzed after making the decision
not to kill Hauser. Most people would behave the opposite.

[TVFan87656]

When Tony stumbles around the living room, drunk, Carmella tells him he's as
drunk as Lloyd Calvert. Who is Lloyd Calvert?

"Boca" is a good ep, the spotlight on minor character Artie Bucco is
refreshing. He feels uneasy with parts of Tony's mafia life, but still hangs
out with him, to the consternation of constantly nagging Charmaine (the only
time she paid Artie a compliment is in a comparison to Tony). This episode and
"I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano" are two of the strongest examples of why Tony and
Artie's friendship has endured. Artie knows a nice guy is underneath Tony's
tough guy veneer, and Tony knows he really does need one friend who isn't
connected.

Love the tickling, teasing, etc. between Tony and Carmella. Their marriage is
so chilly sometimes, but in this one relations thawed a little. When Carm said
once a year, do you think she meant once a year he "whistles through the wheat
fields" for her, or once a year is the only time they have any type of sex?

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There are no absolutes in life. Only in vodka.
Mike Kellerman, Homicide: Life on the Street
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[Pete B.]

TVFan87656 wrote in message
<19990807014721...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...

>When Tony stumbles around the living room, drunk, Carmella tells him he's
as
>drunk as Lloyd Calvert. Who is Lloyd Calvert?
>

Lord Calvert Canadian whiskey named after Lord Cecil Calvert who founded the
state of Maryland.

I assume the reference is like the Thorogood song "I Drink Alone:"

"The other night I lay sleeping,
and I woke from a terrible dream
So I caught up my pal Jack Daniel's,
and his partner Jimmy Beam
...
The other day I got invited to a party,
but I stayed home instead
Just me and my pal Johnny Walker,
and his brothers Blackie and Red"

>"Boca" is a good ep, the spotlight on minor character Artie Bucco is
>refreshing. He feels uneasy with parts of Tony's mafia life, but still
hangs
>out with him, to the consternation of constantly nagging Charmaine (the
only
>time she paid Artie a compliment is in a comparison to Tony). This episode
and
>"I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano" are two of the strongest examples of why Tony
and
>Artie's friendship has endured. Artie knows a nice guy is underneath Tony's
>tough guy veneer, and Tony knows he really does need one friend who isn't
>connected.

Good explanation - It took Tony a while to anger and tell him "Who do you
think you are, telling ME what to do?"

>Love the tickling, teasing, etc. between Tony and Carmella. Their marriage
is
>so chilly sometimes, but in this one relations thawed a little. When Carm
said
>once a year, do you think she meant once a year he "whistles through the
wheat
>fields" for her, or once a year is the only time they have any type of sex?

It sounded like any sex to me but it could have been "south of the border."

Pete B.

[Thomas Bridges]

I suspect it is the wheat field.... probably on her birthday :-)

TVFan87656 <tvfan...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990807014721...@ng-fa1.aol.com...

>
> Love the tickling, teasing, etc. between Tony and Carmella. Their marriage
is
> so chilly sometimes, but in this one relations thawed a little. When Carm
said
> once a year, do you think she meant once a year he "whistles through the
wheat
> fields" for her, or once a year is the only time they have any type of
sex?
>
>
>

[TVFan87656]

"Pete B." <petey...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>>
>Lord Calvert Canadian whiskey named after Lord Cecil Calvert who founded the
>state of Maryland.
>

Thanks. Only after watching the episode a few different times can I catch all
the references thrown at viewers.