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How did Tony know Pussy was a informant?

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Bob Dunn

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony had
a hunch?


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Jason McCready

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He didn't promote Pussy when he promoted Paulie and Silvio - this was a clue.
In the dream Pussy told him he was in denial about it. I think that's what
happened. Subconsciously he suspected, but Pussy was like a brother to him,
and he didn't want to deal with it.
Jason

The Horse

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Bob Dunn wrote in message <8crg46$ft9$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>...

>It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony had
>a hunch?


I thought T was lookin at Pussy a little crooked while he was explaiing the
whole calling card scam in the restaurant.. other than that, talking
fishheads don't really cut it for me either...

-Horse


NikonNurse

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A salmon told him...

i can't believe I just said that......


"Bob Dunn" <rj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony
had
> a hunch?
>
>

GF2020

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It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony had
a hunch?>>

He didn't promote Pussy for one... and Silvio and Paulie made him leave a table
before discussing a bizness deal. Also, Tony never really trusted Pussy's
return. He had Paulie check it out
--------
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I never liked you, Get Lost."
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BIGGMCC

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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Even when Pus was talking about the CAlling Card scam at Artie's place to
Furio, Tony was eyeballin' him thinking, "You goddamn rat bastard". He knew,
but he didn't want to believe it.

NewLine100

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>It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony had
>a hunch?

Yes there was, but a very subtle one. When everyone was in the restaurant
eating, Pussy was describing in detail (and in public) about the phone card
operation. If you catch the look on Tony's face, he looks at Pussy in a very
suspicious manner. After knowing someone for as long as he knew Puss, maybe he
thought it strange for him to do something that stupid. Tony would probably
expect Pussy to act professionally and not blurt out their business in the
middle of an open restaurant.

BIG D 1775

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I felt feel that Tony knew for a while, but didn't want it to be true. The
dinner sealed it for him, and that is why he was so sick and having the strange
dreams. A college professor once told me that you can solve problems in your
dreams. I have found this to be true a couple of times. This is something that
happened to Tony and thus he knew he had to find out right away.

Jeff

Tetractys

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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Bob Dunn wrote:

> It came to him in a dream was a stretch.
> Were there any signs that Tony had a hunch?

1) When Pussy asked about Wiechuck, Tony didn't
answer, and went into the garage with that look of
concern, only to be distracted by TJ smoking pot.

2) When Pussy asked about the airline tickets, Tony
didn't answer, but talked about Ritchie.

3) Tony passed Pussy over for promotion.

4) When Pussy confesses (as a fish in the dream),
Tony says "Don't talk about it."

5) When Pussy returns from his absense, Tony pats him
down, then puts Paulie on his story to check it out.

6) Pussy got low-level assignments, like finding the Saturn,
and picking up the guys at the airport after returning from
Italy (where Pussy didn't go).

It's obvious Tony knew all along, but out of friendship,
didn't want to confront the issue until it became critical.

What made it critical? Pussy was screwing up all over
the place: asking questions, having a wreck tailing Chris,
asking Chris for info about stocks, generally coming apart.


Mr Bakala

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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Remember when Pussy was explaining the calling card thing to Furio, he seemed a
little too descriptive.. (like he was wearing a wire, and waiting for Tony for
affirm the plans...), right there, when Tony looked at him and had that look on
his face, I knew Tony knew 100%.... he knew it all season and was hiding it...

Bob Dunn wrote:

> It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony had
> a hunch?
>

Bill Lynch

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Jason McCready wrote:
>
> He didn't promote Pussy when he promoted Paulie and Silvio - this was a clue.
> In the dream Pussy told him he was in denial about it. I think that's what
> happened. Subconsciously he suspected, but Pussy was like a brother to him,
> and he didn't want to deal with it.

I don't think Tony's completely trusted Pussy since P bugged out to PR.

Bill L

Rodrick Su

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Well, I designed a circuit for a project in college. I was so involved with
the design, that I figured out a mistake in my dream. Sure enought, I woke up
immediately, and confirm the mistake.

[ Rodrick Su [ ]
[ r...@tigana.com [ I might be crazier than you think. ]

poldy

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In article <20000409231105...@ng-bj1.aol.com>,
gf2...@aol.comGF202020 (GF2020) wrote:

>It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony
>had
>a hunch?>>
>

>He didn't promote Pussy for one... and Silvio and Paulie made him leave a
>table
>before discussing a bizness deal. Also, Tony never really trusted Pussy's
>return. He had Paulie check it out

Yeah he was suspicious all along. When Pussy showed up at his house, he
thought Pussy was there to take him out.

He looked for proof. He probably had it set up with Paulie and Silvio
so that if they showed up at the marina, Tony was going to kill him. If
he hadn't found the recording equipment, he probably would have made
some excuse to not go, so that Silvio would know it was off.

Maybe he smoked one of Pussy's cigars at the end.

Kevin Edge

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First off, Puss disappeared to an "island" to get his "back" fixed last
season. No one bought it, and T wrestled with the bogus story back then, but
on to denial the whole time, hoping he wouldn't have to kill his best
friend.

But T definitely wasn't sure, so he tested him , like going with him on that
hit to make sure he pulled the trigger a couple times. But the big give away
for us at home were the funny looks T gave Puss, one in each of the last few
episodes. Puss saw these looks and knew he was ratted out, that's why he
first started crying to his cop that he was busted, and then took the whole
thing damn serious trying to be all FBI when his knew his time was near,
hoping to finish his case with the Feds and be done with it. But looks like
he wasn't fast enough.

Tony knew all along Puss wasn't being loyal, he just had to come to grips
with it and prove it to himself before he could do something about it.

Bob Dunn <rj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony
had
> a hunch?
>
>

CJ's Dad

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I gotta wonder if Pussy was wacked, or it was just another part of the
maze of dream sequences. It seemed to be real, the Pussy fish scene
sorta confirms Tony's guilt, but the way that episode jumped around,
the writers are wide open to do anything they want next year. After
all, this is fiction, kinda like TV news :)

(I think I saw Bobby Ewing taking a shower in the background)
GA

Chuck

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In article <8crnlj$dn2$1...@nnrp02.primenet.com>, r...@tigana.com says...

> >
>
> Well, I designed a circuit for a project in college. I was so involved with
> the design, that I figured out a mistake in my dream. Sure enought, I woke up
> immediately, and confirm the mistake.
>
>
Yeah, and I dreamed of a snake biting its own tail,
and I woke up to discover the benzine molecule.
The dream sequence is always a weak way out of
a plot dilemma- I expected more.

Chuck

NOSOUP4UUU

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Let's not forget the dirty cop that T had in his pocket. Before he jumped off
the bridge, he told Tony straight out that Pussy was wired up. T didn't wanna
believe it, and even tried to make himself believe that he meant fat Jimmy
instead, but I think deep down, he knew the detective was right on the money
all along.

-Dave in Providence

Anders N Weinstein

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In article <9BbI4.3206$Ib7....@typhoon2.kc.rr.com>,

NikonNurse <Nikon...@notforlonghatemycableco.mmcable.com> wrote:
>A salmon told him...
>
>i can't believe I just said that......

I wouldn't carp.

Sbensong

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>Nikon...@notforlonghatemycableco.mmcable.com> wrote:
>>A salmon told him...
>>
>>i can't believe I just said that......
>
>I wouldn't carp.
>
>
>

For a while, Pussy was floundering.


Steve_Oh

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In article <20000410093052...@ng-cq1.aol.com>,
What a great point! I hadn't made that connection, but you're
absolutely right. T never really bought the whole "I had to go to
Puerto Rico for my back" thing, which was, ironically, true. What Tony
didn't know, but suspected, was that the feds are the ones who found
the clinic in the first place.

--
"It's time for someone to put their foot down,
and that foot is me!"


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Bennet K. Langlotz

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sben...@aol.comdropdead (Sbensong) wrote:

>>I wouldn't carp.
>
>For a while, Pussy was floundering.

Even the most skilled sturgeon in the finest hospital can not help
him.
--
Bennet K. Langlotz
ne...@langlotz.com

RJMovieMan

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maybe toni and his pals killed pussy for the halibut?

rj
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Sopranoswatcher1

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>maybe toni and his pals killed pussy for the halibut?
>
>rj
>-----------

Or maybe it was all a Red Herring?

hy

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>>>I wouldn't carp.
>>
>>For a while, Pussy was floundering.
>
>Even the most skilled sturgeon in the finest hospital can not
help
>him.

His mortal body is gone, but what will become of his eternal
sole?

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Bennet K. Langlotz

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hy <harrison...@apexinc.com.invalid> wrote:

>His mortal body is gone, but what will become of his eternal
>sole?

After he has been on the bottom long enough, the creatures will eat
him, and he will end up as a plate of Mobster Newberg.

Joemovie

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>Or maybe it was all a Red Herring?

Now that's funny...the best of the fish jokes...I give you 10 points (whoever
gets 5000 points first wins a free turtle)...

Madman702

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>If
>he hadn't found the recording equipment,

That was a dream, He woke up in the back seat of the car.

Jason McCready

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What??!! No, it was real. he found the recording equipment, then
went downstairs and asked pussy and silvio if they were ready to buy
the boat. Then the dream started(after he and silvio and pussy got
into his suburban and left) and he woke up in the suburban.
Jason

To...@fred.net

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This post on 10 Apr 2000 19:06:27 GMT would probably sound more commanding if Sopranoswatcher1 wasn't wearing the Yummy Sushi Pajamas:
:>maybe toni and his pals killed pussy for the halibut?
:>
:>rj
:>-----------

: Or maybe it was all a Red Herring?

Now you're just being shellfish... don't be an eel, for cod's sake!

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* On the next 'Maury' -- *SEND CODY GIFFORD TO BOOT CAMP*

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Tom Guarriello

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What this what they meant by OctoPussy?

Chaos

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hy wrote in message <07a27770...@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>...

>
>His mortal body is gone, but what will become of his eternal
>sole?
>

who gives a crappie about his eternal sole? Walleye would have like to have
seen is Pussy's Gar-untee that he wasn't shooting his squid to the FBI or
for him to get salmon-ella and get sick like the Big Tuna did, wait Parcells
wasn't in this.

what I meant to say was that the newest member of the family, Betta Splenden
was trouting down the dock to the ship when .... ahhh... never mind you
don't pirahna hear any more.

ginn...@webtv.net

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Why'd they kill Pussy? No real reason, it was just for the halibut.
ginnyjoJ


ageorge3

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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Tony has given signs since the first episode this season that he knows
about Pussy. Remember him suddenly calling P. a fucking moron at the
barbecue for no immediate reason?

BIG D 1775 wrote:
>
> I felt feel that Tony knew for a while, but didn't want it to be true. The
> dinner sealed it for him, and that is why he was so sick and having the strange
> dreams. A college professor once told me that you can solve problems in your
> dreams. I have found this to be true a couple of times. This is something that
> happened to Tony and thus he knew he had to find out right away.
>

> Jeff

Torris

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:59:41 GMT, ne...@langlotz.com (Bennet K.
Langlotz) wrote:

>hy <harrison...@apexinc.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>His mortal body is gone, but what will become of his eternal
>>sole?
>

>After he has been on the bottom long enough, the creatures will eat
>him, and he will end up as a plate of Mobster Newberg.

This is the best of these cornpone shit puns


Torris

"Rehab is for quitters"

Tante Joan

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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>hy wrote in message <07a27770...@usw-ex0104-028.remarq.com>...
>>
>>His mortal body is gone, but what will become of his eternal
>>sole?

There is no "eternal sole." Sole, and other fish, go bad in three
days.
TJ

Bennet K. Langlotz

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ginn...@webtv.net wrote:

> Why'd they kill Pussy? No real reason, it was just for the halibut.

Too bad about the Web TV account. You appear to have posted this
first, but it arrived a day after someone else's post arrived for us
all to enjoy.

KatsMomAz

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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>> Why'd they kill Pussy? No real reason, it was just for the halibut.
>
>My household punster says that he should have clammed up and not try
>to mussel in...

Holy Mackerel guys, stop skating around the issue. Tony finally woke up and
said "Oh mahi mahi, the whale has to be harpooned."

Bill Lynch

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Apr 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/12/00
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Two days later and this is still funny.

Bill L

JnEricsonX

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Apr 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/12/00
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::laughing and gagging::: ENough with the goddamn fish jokes before I whack
all of ya!

RCLOVELY

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Apr 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/12/00
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>Why'd they kill Pussy? No real reason, it was just for the halibut.

My husband has been reading this thread over my shoulder. He thinks I'm hang'n
with a really weird bunch.

RC

hart

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Apr 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/12/00
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In article <20000412021437...@ng-bd1.aol.com>,
relax, jn....they're just baiting you.....

(couldnt resist)

hart

Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?

KatsMomAz

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>From: jneri...@aol.com (JnEricsonX)

>::laughing and gagging::: ENough with the goddamn fish jokes before I whack
>all of ya!


C'mon now, admit it you're hooked..

;)

KatsMomAz

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My husband gets a little annoyed when he hears me laughing and gagging. Yet,
he too, peaks over my shoulder to read some posts, and much to his chagrin;
laughs. I also think that he secretly enjoys me being on this ng because he
doesn't have to sit and have *quality* time with me.

:))

Pete B.

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Apr 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/13/00
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>I don't think Tony's completely trusted Pussy since P bugged out to PR.

I thought he got passed over way *after* that "bug-out" incident. After
all, there was clearly a rat operating even then (that's why Jimmy ate
ratatouille for his last meal). Tony asking him if the PR girl was even
real tipped me off that we shouldn't believe a word of what Pussy said about
anything. He had been deluding himself for so long he didn't know the truth
about anything.

Pete B.

Bill Lynch wrote in message <38F15E7E...@worldnet.att.net>...
>Jason McCready wrote:
>>
>> He didn't promote Pussy when he promoted Paulie and Silvio - this was a
clue.
>> In the dream Pussy told him he was in denial about it. I think that's
what
>> happened. Subconsciously he suspected, but Pussy was like a brother to
him,
>> and he didn't want to deal with it.
>
>I don't think Tony's completely trusted Pussy since P bugged out to PR.
>
>Bill L

enn...@gmail.com

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Probably no one is going to read this (13 years) but this is a great thread!

housetrained

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news:7745b0a0-5ab5-4a37...@googlegroups.com...
>
>Probably no one is going to read this (13 years) but this is a great
>thread!

Searching Pussy's room, Tony finds Pussy's wire hidden in a false bottom of
a cigar box — proof that Pussy is indeed an FBI informant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funhouse_%28The_Sopranos%29
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W dniu piątek, 8 lutego 2013 06:29:23 UTC użytkownik enn...@gmail.com napisał:
> Probably no one is going to read this (13 years) but this is a great thread!

2017 and I'm here

jimpe...@gmail.com

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Me too. I am watching the whole series on dvd. I only saw sporadic episodes on HBO when it originally aired. This is still an awesome show. There are a lot of comedic parts that I forgot about.

Innie

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On Sunday, April 9, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Bob Dunn wrote:
> It came to him in a dream was a stretch. Were there any signs that Tony had
> a hunch?
>
>
> --
>
> Bob
>
>
> \/ ______ \/ | Bob Dunn
> "@' / ^ ^ \ '@" | rj...@mindspring.com
> |_( \____/ )_| | http://www.mindspring.com/~rjd55
> \__\/__/

2020 in quarantine. Watching The Sopranos. This thread is part of television history and now I am in it.

darr...@aol.com

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LOL! Are you Generation Z?eh I am part of Generation X and was part of direct history, having watch The Sopranos in real-time! It still remains one of the best-written shows on t.v. -D, "Italians: Jews with better food!" eh - TONY SOPRANO.."For two years, 900 Jews held their own against 15,000 Roman soldiers in the Massada. They wouldn't give up. Where are the Romans now, huh?" eh - ARIEL, THE SOPRANOS.."In New York, even if you're Catholic you're Jewish. If you live in Butte, Montana, you're going to be Goyish even if you're Jewish!" eh - LENNY BRUCE, b. Leonard Alfred Schneider, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer

navid....@gmail.com

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Haha I am. So many things they say I have to google. Sometimes it’s really funny and others it’s quite informative. I watched the show a few years ago but most of it went over my head. Now I’m rewatching it and every second of it is entertaining.

darr...@aol.com

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On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 6:52:43 PM UTC-4, navid...@gmail.com wrote:

> Haha I am. So many things they say I have to google. Sometimes it’s really funny and others it’s quite informative. I watched the show a few years ago but most of it went over my head. Now I’m rewatching it and every second of it is entertaining.

LOL! My heart goes out to those who were reared on Justin Bieber & Twitter! eh Therein lies the beauty of the Classics - be it tv, film or music. Each new generation comes upon it for the first time.

navid....@gmail.com

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"It's a retirement community!!!" That's my favorite line.
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