The undercover person in the doctor's office
Liam Devlin
Liam Devlin
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 06:35:46 -0700, Liam Devlin wrote:
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>>According to the HBO/Sopranos site, it was the flirty nurse.
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> Tony would end up screwing her..
No. I thought so, too. Maybe I was looking forward to that & ignored the
later intel?
Peter Cavaliere
there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
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"Peter Sanchez" <psan...@nmia.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 06:35:46 -0700, Liam Devlin wrote:
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> > According to the HBO/Sopranos site, it was the flirty nurse.
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Nicholas Totoro
something like that. Anything to keep from calling her black to make himself
feel better. Then again, consistency isn't Tony's strong suit.
Nick
"Peter Cavaliere" <jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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FatTailCat
Crow T Robot
>Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
>there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
I thought she was Hispanic or Meditteranean and/or well tanned.
Jansen
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She also looked a LOT like Glory.
JJ
"Why don't you get the f--k out of here before I shove your quotations book up
your fat f--king ass!" - Tony Soprano
Jansen
>Tony would end up screwing her..
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I think Tony did. Did you see the look on his face when UJ told him she was an
FBI plant?
Liam Devlin
> Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
> there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
Au contraire, mon frere, he'd be happy to pork her with knockers like
that; just nothing official, i.e., in public. Isn't Paulie's girfriend
black or Latin?
Nicholas Totoro
Tony, could probably use that as justification for her not being black in
his opinion... :)
Nick
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Torris Bin Drinken
<jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
>there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
>
Probably Puero Rican
Torris
Rob Jacobs
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> Ehh... he'd try to justify it by saying she was Panamanian or Dominican or
> something like that. Anything to keep from calling her black to make
himself
> feel better. Then again, consistency isn't Tony's strong suit.
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> Nick
Which would be so hypocritical since he made a big deal out of Meadow being
involved with the 'Hasidic Homeboy'..
Rob
Crow T Robot
>Tony & Uncle Junior should just have the bitch "clipped."
Do you think whacking a Fed will take the heat OFF them?
Liam Devlin
T's rules revolve around "do as I say, not as I do".
righter
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> there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
Why? Paul Castellano had a black maid/mistress.
righter
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Yeah, that's the ticket.
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> Torris
Liam Devlin
> "Peter Cavaliere" <jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
>>there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
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> Why? Paul Castellano had a black maid/mistress.
You're a regular font of misinformation.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/mob_bosses/wives/5.htm
Married to the Mob: Mafia Wives and Mistresses
"Big Paul's" Maid
Paul Castellano’s execution
From 1976 to 1985, Paul “Big Paul” Castellano was the capo di tutti
capi, boss of all bosses, of New York’s Gambino crime family, then the
most powerful of the city’s five families. But Castellano is
remembered more for his death than for what he accomplished in life. He
was gunned down in front of his favorite steakhouse in midtown Manhattan
in the middle of rush hour. It was the boldest, most spectacular
gangland slaying in modern mob history. Castellano’s execution was as
much a statement as a power play orchestrated by John Gotti who muscled
his way onto Castellano’s throne and became the next boss of all bosses.
John Gotti
John Gotti
Gotti’s main beef with Castellano was that the boss favored taking the
family into legitimate businesses at the expense of the bread-and-butter
rackets that are the cornerstones of mafia money-making. Specifically
Gotti wanted freer reign to steal from the New York airports.
In their personal styles, the two men were worlds apart. Gotti relished
the tough-guy role, quick to retaliate against anyone who stood in his
way. Castellano, who was tall and gentlemanly, saw himself as a
businessman, though he didn’t hesitate to use violence when he deemed it
necessary. Gotti lived in a middle-class neighborhood in Queens.
Castellano lived in a mansion nicknamed the White House in the exclusive
Todt Hill section of Staten Island, far removed from the rough and
tumble activities of his underlings. But what might have been the last
straw for Gotti and his supporters was Castellano’s choice of goomatta,
his Colombian maid, Gloria Olarte.
Paul Castellano
Olarte was a most unlikely candidate for a boss’s mistress. She wasn’t
the kind of flashy beauty wiseguys prize. She was small and dark with
coarse black hair, a shy immigrant hired by Castellano’s wife Nina to
work as a domestic. But for reasons that Castellano took to the grave,
at the age of 70 he became hopelessly smitten with the maid who spoke
almost no English. They carried on in his home in the presence of his
wife, and in so doing, Castellano crossed a line that likely contributed
to his undoing.
When it comes to the women in their lives, Mafiosi hold a double
standard. While a real man must have a goomatta, the mother of his
children remains sacred. Affairs are conducted outside of the house,
and wives should be spared the embarrassment of their husbands’
extracurricular activities as much as possible. By the Mafia rules of
etiquette, Nina Castellano, though grandmotherly by this time, deserved
her husband’s respect, and Castellano more than anyone should have known
that. His inappropriate, lovesick behavior with Olarte was further
proof to his enemies that he was out of touch and needed to be replaced.
Gloria Olarte
Gloria Olarte started working at the Castellanos’ mansion in September
1979, and it wasn’t long before Big Paul started flirting with her.
Because she knew so little English, Nina had bought a handheld
electronic English-Spanish translator so that she could communicate with
the maid and tell her what chores she wanted done. When Castellano got
ahold of the device, he used it to send flattering little messages to
Olarte in Spanish, complimenting her eyes, her smile.
Castellano’s infatuation with the maid soon turned into a full-fledged
love affair. Big Paul and Gloria acted like teenagers with little
concern for who was watching. Gloria became quite outspoken around her
lover’s associates, which didn’t win her any points with them.
Castellano took her on vacations and even bought her a hot sports car, a
red Datsun 280Z, even though she didn’t know how to drive. Through all
of this, Nina Castellano stood her ground. The White House was her
home, and she wasn’t going to budge for a pipsqueak like Olarte. If her
husband wanted to act like a fool, let him. This queen wasn’t about to
give up her castle.
But the depths of Castellano’s feelings for Gloria surprised even the
FBI. On St. Patrick’s Day 1983, after two years of planning, FBI
agents got by Castellano’s elaborate electronic security system as well
as his Doberman pinschers and successfully planted a listening device in
a lamp on the boss’s kitchen table. They knew from prior surveillance
that Castellano often conducted business from his home, and he was most
comfortable in the kitchen. In the three months that the bug operated,
agents listened in on conferences between Castellano and his mob
associates. The agents, by default, also heard personal conversations
between Big Paul and Gloria. What the agents learned one day left them
speechless.
Castellano had left the White House one day to travel to Tampa, Florida.
The reason for his visit, according to his lawyer, was elective
surgery. But further investigation by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in
Tampa revealed the true nature of this surgery. Big Paul had received
a penile implant, a device that when unfolded would give him a
mechanical erection. The implant telescoped inside of him like a manual
car antenna.
This bit of information raised more than a few eyebrows within law
enforcement. Castellano had never been known as a ladies’ man, but now
in the autumn of his years, he was getting himself fixed, presumably to
satisfy his new love. Knowing this, the agents listening in on the
conversations in Castellano’s kitchen started paying more attention to
the exchanges between Big Paul and Gloria.
Eventually Nina Castellano moved out of the house, having finally had
enough of the lovebirds’ shenanigans. Gloria, whose English was
improving, was triumphant. In her mind, she was now the lady of the
house. But Gloria’s victory was short-lived. Within a year Paul
Castellano’s lifeless body would be sprawled on a Manhattan sidewalk
next to the open front passenger door of his black Lincoln Continental,
blood seeping from multiple gunshot wounds to the head. It’s uncertain
whether John Gotti knew or even cared about Paul Castellano’s penile
implant. What Gotti thought of Big Paul’s affair with his maid is not
public knowledge. To this day, Gotti, who is imprisoned for life in
Marion, Illinois, abides by the Mafia code of silence, omerta.
Perhaps former FBI Special Agent Joseph O’Brien, co-author of Boss of
Bosses: The Fall of the Godfather—The FBI and Paul Castellano, best
characterized Gloria Olarte’s position within the Gambino family.
O’Brien, who was one of the agents who planted the bug in Castellano’s
house, called her “the Yoko Ono of the Mob.”
“The bandleader thinks he’s found the love of his life,” O’Brien’s says
in his book, “the other guys think he’s lost his mind. He thinks she’s
exotic, they think she’s wildly inappropriate. He thinks he’s been set
free, they think he’s making a total ass of himself.”
Crow T Robot
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>"Peter Cavaliere" <jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
>> there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
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>Why? Paul Castellano had a black maid/mistress.
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I think she was Nicaraguan or Honduran or Columbian or some shit like
dat.
righter
> righter wrote:
> > "Peter Cavaliere" <jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
> >>there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
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> >
> > Why? Paul Castellano had a black maid/mistress.
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> You're a regular font of misinformation.
Anybody can be a hero with a computer and a search box. Try winging it with
nothing but your dick in your hands, and you'll really know what it means to
be feared and respected.
righter
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Well, in my defense, she was dark, and Vincent Pastore, in his role in the
movie Gotti with Armand Assante makes the comment at a poker game, "I hear
Paul Castellano has a zulu maid."
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Liam Devlin
> "Liam Devlin" <Li...@optonline.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>>righter wrote:
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>>>"Peter Cavaliere" <jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
>>>>there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
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>>>Why? Paul Castellano had a black maid/mistress.
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>>You're a regular font of misinformation.
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> Anybody can be a hero with a computer and a search box.
Except you, apparently. Why is it you won't even admit you were wrong
about Castellano's maid/lover?
> Try winging it with
> nothing but your dick in your hands, and you'll really know what it means to
> be feared and respected.
WTF is that supposed to mean, I should jerk off & post crap like you?
Torris Bin Drinken
Show's you how stupid the Gotti crew was, couldn't even get their
ethnic slurs straight. The true irony was that b/c of diabetes
Castellano was impotent but I heard he could push his glasses up the
bridge of his nose to his forehead with his tongue :-)
Torris
righter
> righter wrote:
> > "Liam Devlin" <Li...@optonline.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> >>righter wrote:
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> >>>"Peter Cavaliere" <jackas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>>>Was the nurse black or was my the color on my tv off? If she's black,
> >>>>there's no way Tony would be involved with her.
> >>>
> >>>Why? Paul Castellano had a black maid/mistress.
> >>
> >>You're a regular font of misinformation.
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> > Anybody can be a hero with a computer and a search box.
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> Except you, apparently. Why is it you won't even admit you were wrong
> about Castellano's maid/lover?
I did, in a post below this, WITH an explanation. Now, wtf haven't YOU
admitted you were wrong in the Silvio Dante thread, Chip?
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> > Try winging it with
> > nothing but your dick in your hands, and you'll really know what it
means to
> > be feared and respected.
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> WTF is that supposed to mean, I should jerk off & post crap like you?
It means try using your right brain every once in a while. You take
everything literally, especially when it comes to assuming everybody is a
moron but you.
>
Liam Devlin
It didn't stop there, either, Paul became Big Paulie after he had a
penile implant. 15 years later in the days of Viagra and he might still
be Capo.
Pisano
<Li...@optonline.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>righter wrote:
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>> Try winging it with
>> nothing but your dick in your hands, and you'll really know what it means to
>> be feared and respected.
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>WTF is that supposed to mean, I should jerk off & post crap like you?
< Rimshot >