was Pussy wearing a wire?
Stryder
wearing his wire? It seemed odd that Tony would do the shooting himself
when he has a thug like Furio to do that for him. I can't help but think
that The way it went down that pussy would have had plenty of time to put
the wire on, because he probably didn't think Tony would do the shooting
himself Either. Just a thought.
hart
would be present and, therefore, no reason to be wearing the
wire. furthermore, whatever you may think of the feds, they
rarely let bad guys actually kill someone just so that they can
prosecute them for murder.
hart
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Pete B.
>rarely let bad guys actually kill someone just so that they can
I'm pretty sure Sammy the Bull was still killing as a government informant
though I may be wrong. I think someone even tried to sue the Feds over it.
Working for the Feds obviously doesn't turn a mobster killer and dope-pusher
into a saint in an instant - it merely adds "rat" to his curriculum vitae.
As for whether the writers believe it happens we've already gotten the
answer, Pussy's deal with Feds already delivered one dude a deadly date
with a ball peen hammer.
Pete B.
hart wrote in message <1432d1f3...@usw-ex0105-037.remarq.com>...
Userb3
>It seemed odd that Tony would do the shooting himself
>when he has a thug like Furio to do that for him.
This was personal- Chris was family. T's code of honor demanded he
personally deal with it.
--
use...@my-deja.com
Insert witty saying here
Brad
They have gone to excrutiating effort to let us,
the viewer, know that Pussy is NOT actively helping
the Feds. He is trying to get on Tony's good side
by helping him out so he can be a first level capo
again.
If there is anything to be learned here it is that Tony
has NO CLUE that Pussy is officially working for
the FBI. NO WAY Tony goes along or gives
Pussy anything but a bullet to the head if he suspects
Pussy is turned. Easier to kill him -- hey it's just
business..
"Officially" working for the FBI means nothing to Pussy.
He thinks he can play both sides of the coin -- (1) be a good
capo and lie to the Feds -- and (2) keep the Feds happy
enough not to convict him. Pussy is a self destructing
fool who has good days on rare occasion. He is going
down as soon as he screws up -- which could be any
time.. especially if the Feds somehow tailed them to the
cabin. The FBI seems to follow everybody everywhere
if you read the FBI files..
Stryder wrote:
> When Tony and Pussy wack Christopher's shooter, do you think that Pussy was
> wearing his wire? It seemed odd that Tony would do the shooting himself
> when he has a thug like Furio to do that for him. I can't help but think
> that The way it went down that pussy would have had plenty of time to put
> the wire on, because he probably didn't think Tony would do the shooting
> himself Either. Just a thought.
Pete B.
Philly that required "the personal touch." It was eventually his undoing
when someone in his organization who helped with the murders ratted him out
after Nicky had a childhood friend of his whacked. Sort of like Tony
whacking Altieri when you think about it . . .
Pete B.
Userb3 wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:29:38 -0600, Stryder wrote:
>
>>It seemed odd that Tony would do the shooting himself
>>when he has a thug like Furio to do that for him.
>
J.L.
wrote:
>When Tony and Pussy wack Christopher's shooter, do you think that Pussy was
>wearing his wire? It seemed odd that Tony would do the shooting himself
>when he has a thug like Furio to do that for him. I can't help but think
>that The way it went down that pussy would have had plenty of time to put
>the wire on, because he probably didn't think Tony would do the shooting
>himself Either. Just a thought.
i was wondering the same thing. before tony told pussy to cut furio
loose for the job, i told my friend who was watching with me that if
pussy is there and tony pulls the trigger, then they have a witness to
tony soprano committing pre-meditated murder. if he taped it, then
they have hard proof of it. i figured puss would sit there and try
and talk tony out of it..
--
Josh
J.L.
>Have you been watching the same show I have?
>They have gone to excrutiating effort to let us,
>the viewer, know that Pussy is NOT actively helping
>the Feds. He is trying to get on Tony's good side
>by helping him out so he can be a first level capo
>again.
at the same time, he's feeling heavy pressure from the feds. they
have him for dealing a lot of heroin and they've been paying his
doctor bills for his back. if he's not actively helping the feds, he
sure wasn't hurting them by wearing a wire into the soprano home for
AJ's confirmation, no? he's walking the line..
--
Josh
Mark
> I'm pretty sure Sammy the Bull was still killing as
> a government informant though I may be wrong.
You're definitely wrong.
Gravano and Gotti were incarcerated
when Sammy turned states witness.
Pete B.
wire against someone. If it wasn't Sammy it was someone just like him. So
much of the Soprano story is taken from real life it's quite likely they are
modeling Pussy after some notable mob informant.
Pete B.
Mark wrote in message <38CDCA8A...@geocities.com>...
LambyO
Question......looked like the Soprano arsenal was in a meat locker in the pork
store. There was a double door - the inside door looked funny - what was
covering the inner door (no this is not a question of the week!)......
A~
This is a dark ride...........
Pete B.
secret.
Pete B.
LambyO wrote in message <20000314050430...@ng-fn1.aol.com>...
J.L.
<MrM...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>You brain trusts don't get it, do you? Pussy is "playing" the FBI.
I see you ignored my previous post. He's -trying- to play the FBI but
at times he's followed along. He wore a wire into the confirmation
party. Sorry, but that's not playing them. He was legitimately angry
at Tony when he was at the diner with Skip. He said he was pissed off
at Tony during the season opener.
>What other choice does he have? Either make believe he's cooperating
>or go to prison. To date he hasn't really given the Feds shit. Only
That's not true. You have no idea what he did or did not give the
feds before his flight at the end of last season. He's been informing
for 2 years, we've only seen what he's been up to since his return
from his "vacation." Obviously the Feds were getting information from
someone before the end of last season. Since Jimmy got out of jail so
fast after being arrested, it's pretty obviously that he flipped then
and there. That means that prior to Jimmy's arrest, he was on the
level. Which in turn means that the info the FBI was getting (good
information) was coming from Pussy.
>BTW, you 2 guys would make great investigators.
Whatever, go watch Family Matters. It's on your level.
--
Josh
Torris
>>>when pussy went to get the weapons,<<
>
>Question......looked like the Soprano arsenal was in a meat locker in the pork
>store. There was a double door - the inside door looked funny - what was
>covering the inner door (no this is not a question of the week!)......
>A~
>This is a dark ride...........
Insulation
Torris
"Rehab is for quitters"
ctakim
Tony's house!
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:23:58 -0600, Brad <nos...@nosplam.com> wrote:
>Have you been watching the same show I have?
>They have gone to excrutiating effort to let us,
>the viewer, know that Pussy is NOT actively helping
>the Feds. He is trying to get on Tony's good side
>by helping him out so he can be a first level capo
>again.
>
Crackin' toast, Grommit! --Wallace
MeganK7625
>When Tony and Pussy wack Christopher's shooter, do you think that Pussy was
>wearing his wire? It seemed odd that Tony would do the shooting himself
>when he has a thug like Furio to do that for him. I can't help but think
>that The way it went down that pussy would have had plenty of time to put
>the wire on, because he probably didn't think Tony would do the shooting
>himself Either. Just a thought.
Interesting thought.. I don't know about the wire, but I was surprized that
Tony fired the first shot.. I thought he would let Pussy fire first, allowing
P to prove his loyalty.. he does work *for* T, doesn't he?.. But P hesitated,
and then fired more as an afterthought, just to make himself look good to T.
Of course T caught this. (Before they let loose and pumped about 900 shots
into him, of course.. lol)
Wire or not, now during testimony P can say, "T fired the shot that killed him,
I just shot the kid to make it look good..he was already dead." Tony is
definitely onto him, just not sure what he's got planned..
Brad
Tony he began a downward spiral of shame
and sorrow -- realizing how much Tony means
to him while blubbering in the bathroom while
the party continued downstairs.
Make a case for Pussy helping the Feds.
It is obvious he is not capable of doing it.
He doesn't have the nerve, nor the heart.
Ed Price
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:23:58 -0600, Brad <nos...@nosplam.com> wrote:
>
> >Have you been watching the same show I have?
> >They have gone to excrutiating effort to let us,
> >the viewer, know that Pussy is NOT actively helping
> >the Feds. He is trying to get on Tony's good side
> >by helping him out so he can be a first level capo
> >again.
>
> have him for dealing a lot of heroin and they've been paying his
> doctor bills for his back. if he's not actively helping the feds, he
> sure wasn't hurting them by wearing a wire into the soprano home for
> AJ's confirmation, no? he's walking the line..
>
> --
> Josh
Pussy has been co-operating with the Feds for quite a while. At least
since his return from his "Carribean health trip." But how far before
that?
Pussy runs from the raid last season, earning smirks about that showing
bad form. Pussy (and Altieri) are hauled in. Tony gets a tip that Pussy
is wired, and orders Paulie to check it out. No proof is shown, but
suddenly, Pussy vanishes. Tony later suspects Altieri of acting
strangely, like Altieri is wired.
Tony decides that the tip on Pussy being wired was a mistake, in that
the informant confused Pussy with Altieri. What made him certain about
Altieri?
Maybe Altieri never was wired. Was this ever proven? Maybe the first tip
about Pussy being the one who was wired was really accurate.
Comments?
Ed
Bennet K. Langlotz
>There was a double door - the inside door looked funny - what was
>covering the inner door (no this is not a question of the week!)......
It was fiberglass insulation between the framing studs. To simulate
an old door that was filled in with a wall behind.
--
Bennet K. Langlotz
ne...@langlotz.com