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Leroy N. Soetoro
Dec 1, 2017, 12:59:48 PM12/1/17
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still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
didn't intentionally do anything wrong. And yet Franken hasn't denied any
of the accusations against him, leaving the door open to the possibility
that he is a serial groper.
In one week, reports have surfaced of four women accusing Franken of
inappropriately touching them. Three women have said that while he was
campaigning or was a sitting senator, he grabbed their buttocks while they
posed for photos. (The two most recent accusations came from anonymous
women who shared their stories with the HuffPost in a story published
Wednesday.)
In response to the past three accusations, Franken has said he didn't
remember the specific events, much less his accusers. And in an apology to
his constituents on Thanksgiving, he suggested his accusers got it wrong.
Here's part of Franken's response:
“I’m a warm person; I hug people. I’ve learned from recent stories that in
some of those encounters, I crossed a line for some women — and I know
that any number is too many.”
If you're confused by what he's trying to say here, you're not the only
one. Franken's attempt at clarifying what happened only raises more
questions, the central ones being: Did he grab these women's buttocks or
not? If he did, how, exactly, was it unintentional? Were the women
mistaken?
Here's more of Franken's muddy attempt at a denial-apology, which he
provided to the Pioneer Press and other local media outlets Thursday:
“Some women have found my greetings or embraces for a hug or photo
inappropriate, and I respect their feelings about that. I’ve thought a lot
in recent days about how that could happen, and recognize that I need to
be much more careful and sensitive in these situations.
By contrast, his accusers left no nuance about what happened: Franken's
hand clearly grabbed their buttocks, they say, when they were expecting a
professional photo with a politician.
Here's Lindsay Menz, who told her story to CNN about posing for a photo
with Franken at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010: “He put his hand full-
fledged on my rear. It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek. It wasn't
around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was definitely on my
butt.”
['He put his hand full fledged on my rear': Why Al Franken is in a lot
more trouble now.]
One of Franken's anonymous accusers told her 2007 story to the HuffPost:
“I saw him and asked if we could take a photo together for my mother, and
we stood next to each other ... and down his hand went.”
His second anonymous accuser told the HuffPost that during a 2008 incident
with Franken, “I shook his hand, and he put his arm around my waist and
held it there. Then he moved it lower and cupped my butt.”
(In both accusations, the HuffPost confirmed that the woman also told the
story privately to confidants at the time it happened, which is one way
journalists corroborate claims like these. One anonymous accuser said
Franken suggested they visit the bathroom together, which Franken denied.)
Franken also hasn't denied the claims of his first accuser, Los Angeles
broadcaster LeeAnn Tweeden, who said he forcibly kissed her during
rehearsal for a skit and also touched her chest while she slept during a
USO tour in 2006.
After originally calling Tweeden story's into doubt and downplaying the
photographic proof as meant to be “funny,” Franken apologized: "[T]he fact
that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me
feel ashamed.” Tweeden said she accepted his apology.
Is it possible that Franken simply doesn't remember these incidents, and
that's why he's offering hedged apologies? Sure. But that doesn't clear up
the broader question of whether this is a habit of Franken's. His hands
have either grabbed women's private body parts multiple times without
their consent, or they haven't.
This is not a murky area. And it's especially confusing coming from a
politician who has repeatedly criticized men who cast doubt on their
accusers.
In this post-Harvey Weinstein era, one allegation (and photo) of sexual
misconduct was enough for most Senate Democrats to say the Senate Ethics
Committee should investigate Franken. Franken himself eventually said he
welcomed the ethics investigation, which could result in censure or being
removed from the Senate.
As Thursday's statement conveys, Franken seems bent on keeping his job.
But he still has a lot of explaining to do about why four women say he
groped them.
--
Donald J. Trump, 304 electoral votes to 227, defeated compulsive liar in
denial Hillary Rodham Clinton on December 19th, 2016. The clown car
parade of the democrat party has run out of gas.
Congratulations President Trump. Thank you for ending the disaster of the
Obama presidency.
Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
The World According To Garp.
ObamaCare is a total 100% failure and no lie that can be put forth by its
supporters can dispute that.
Obama jobs, the result of ObamaCare. 12-15 working hours a week at minimum
wage, no benefits and the primary revenue stream for ObamaCare. It can't
be funded with money people don't have, yet liberals lie about how great
it is.
Obama increased total debt from $10 trillion to $20 trillion in the eight
years he was in office, and sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood queer
liberal democrat donors.
still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
didn't intentionally do anything wrong. And yet Franken hasn't denied any
of the accusations against him, leaving the door open to the possibility
that he is a serial groper.
In one week, reports have surfaced of four women accusing Franken of
inappropriately touching them. Three women have said that while he was
campaigning or was a sitting senator, he grabbed their buttocks while they
posed for photos. (The two most recent accusations came from anonymous
women who shared their stories with the HuffPost in a story published
Wednesday.)
In response to the past three accusations, Franken has said he didn't
remember the specific events, much less his accusers. And in an apology to
his constituents on Thanksgiving, he suggested his accusers got it wrong.
Here's part of Franken's response:
“I’m a warm person; I hug people. I’ve learned from recent stories that in
some of those encounters, I crossed a line for some women — and I know
that any number is too many.”
If you're confused by what he's trying to say here, you're not the only
one. Franken's attempt at clarifying what happened only raises more
questions, the central ones being: Did he grab these women's buttocks or
not? If he did, how, exactly, was it unintentional? Were the women
mistaken?
Here's more of Franken's muddy attempt at a denial-apology, which he
provided to the Pioneer Press and other local media outlets Thursday:
“Some women have found my greetings or embraces for a hug or photo
inappropriate, and I respect their feelings about that. I’ve thought a lot
in recent days about how that could happen, and recognize that I need to
be much more careful and sensitive in these situations.
By contrast, his accusers left no nuance about what happened: Franken's
hand clearly grabbed their buttocks, they say, when they were expecting a
professional photo with a politician.
Here's Lindsay Menz, who told her story to CNN about posing for a photo
with Franken at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010: “He put his hand full-
fledged on my rear. It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek. It wasn't
around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was definitely on my
butt.”
['He put his hand full fledged on my rear': Why Al Franken is in a lot
more trouble now.]
One of Franken's anonymous accusers told her 2007 story to the HuffPost:
“I saw him and asked if we could take a photo together for my mother, and
we stood next to each other ... and down his hand went.”
His second anonymous accuser told the HuffPost that during a 2008 incident
with Franken, “I shook his hand, and he put his arm around my waist and
held it there. Then he moved it lower and cupped my butt.”
(In both accusations, the HuffPost confirmed that the woman also told the
story privately to confidants at the time it happened, which is one way
journalists corroborate claims like these. One anonymous accuser said
Franken suggested they visit the bathroom together, which Franken denied.)
Franken also hasn't denied the claims of his first accuser, Los Angeles
broadcaster LeeAnn Tweeden, who said he forcibly kissed her during
rehearsal for a skit and also touched her chest while she slept during a
USO tour in 2006.
After originally calling Tweeden story's into doubt and downplaying the
photographic proof as meant to be “funny,” Franken apologized: "[T]he fact
that my own actions have given people a good reason to doubt that makes me
feel ashamed.” Tweeden said she accepted his apology.
Is it possible that Franken simply doesn't remember these incidents, and
that's why he's offering hedged apologies? Sure. But that doesn't clear up
the broader question of whether this is a habit of Franken's. His hands
have either grabbed women's private body parts multiple times without
their consent, or they haven't.
This is not a murky area. And it's especially confusing coming from a
politician who has repeatedly criticized men who cast doubt on their
accusers.
In this post-Harvey Weinstein era, one allegation (and photo) of sexual
misconduct was enough for most Senate Democrats to say the Senate Ethics
Committee should investigate Franken. Franken himself eventually said he
welcomed the ethics investigation, which could result in censure or being
removed from the Senate.
As Thursday's statement conveys, Franken seems bent on keeping his job.
But he still has a lot of explaining to do about why four women say he
groped them.
--
Donald J. Trump, 304 electoral votes to 227, defeated compulsive liar in
denial Hillary Rodham Clinton on December 19th, 2016. The clown car
parade of the democrat party has run out of gas.
Congratulations President Trump. Thank you for ending the disaster of the
Obama presidency.
Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
The World According To Garp.
ObamaCare is a total 100% failure and no lie that can be put forth by its
supporters can dispute that.
Obama jobs, the result of ObamaCare. 12-15 working hours a week at minimum
wage, no benefits and the primary revenue stream for ObamaCare. It can't
be funded with money people don't have, yet liberals lie about how great
it is.
Obama increased total debt from $10 trillion to $20 trillion in the eight
years he was in office, and sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood queer
liberal democrat donors.
#BeamMeUpScotty
Dec 1, 2017, 1:15:48 PM12/1/17
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On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>
> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>
> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
the laws and no trial is planned.
This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
I was just a stupid person.... defense.
The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison think.
--
That's Karma
*Rumination*
2- If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with
Bleachbit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the
Mainstream Media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him
innocent?
FPP
Dec 1, 2017, 6:34:56 PM12/1/17
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On 12/1/17 1:15 PM, #BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
>> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>>
>> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
>> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
>> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
>
> That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
> on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
> didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
> the laws and no trial is planned.
>
> This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
>
> I was just a stupid person.... defense.
>
>
> The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
> the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison think.
Once again... this isn't about Hillary or anybody else named "Clinton".
> On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
>> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>>
>> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
>> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
>> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
>
> That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
> on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
> didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
> the laws and no trial is planned.
>
> This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
>
> I was just a stupid person.... defense.
>
>
> The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
> the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison think.
When will you get that simple fact through your fat head?
Do let us know, if only so that we can say we were here to see the
first one...
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Putin - Stephen Colbert
trotsky
Dec 1, 2017, 7:08:30 PM12/1/17
to
On 12/1/2017 12:15 PM, #BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
>> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>>
>> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
>> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
>> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
>
> That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
> on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
> didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
> the laws and no trial is planned.
>
> This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
>
> I was just a stupid person.... defense.
>
>
> The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
> the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison think.
>
Scooter in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhntBcMi0XU
> On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
>> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>>
>> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
>> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
>> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
>
> That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
> on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
> didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
> the laws and no trial is planned.
>
> This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
>
> I was just a stupid person.... defense.
>
>
> The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
> the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison think.
>
---
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#BeamMeUpScotty
Dec 1, 2017, 7:41:45 PM12/1/17
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On 12/01/2017 06:34 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 12/1/17 1:15 PM, #BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
>>> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>>>
>>> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
>>> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
>>> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
>>
>> That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
>> on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
>> didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
>> the laws and no trial is planned.
>>
>> This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
>>
>> I was just a stupid person.... defense.
>>
>>
>> The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
>> the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison
>> think.
>
> Once again... this isn't about Hillary or anybody else named "Clinton".
But it was about Bush for all 8 years of Obama?
> On 12/1/17 1:15 PM, #BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 12/01/2017 12:59 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/24/al-franken-
>>> still-hasnt-denied-grabbing-women/?utm_term=.57be4330c545
>>>
>>> Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has waded into the murky waters of trying to
>>> apologize for inappropriately touching women — while asserting that he
>>> didn't intentionally do anything wrong.
>>
>> That's the Hillary defense, she stole classified documents and put them
>> on a server that wasn't secure where they were hacked and she says she
>> didn't mean to do stupid and illegal stuff. Sothey allow her to brek
>> the laws and no trial is planned.
>>
>> This is what Franken is laying out as his defense.
>>
>> I was just a stupid person.... defense.
>>
>>
>> The real defense is that they were just stupid Democrats that thought
>> the laws didn't apply to them, just like all the Democrats in prison
>> think.
>
> Once again... this isn't about Hillary or anybody else named "Clinton".
--
That's Karma
*Rumination*
FPP
Dec 1, 2017, 10:49:12 PM12/1/17
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Bush tortured people.
Bush set up extralegal black sites.
Bush was warned about 9-11, and ignored it.
Bush took a balanced budget and a surplus, and turned it into the 2nd
worst depression in American history.
And did Obama go after Bush for any of it? Nope... he gave Bush a pass.
What did Hillary do, moron? She used work email at home. The horror...
the horror...
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a tornado doing a commercial for mobile homes." -Paula Pell
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