Dangerfield episode
Bunezuela
love this thing. It starts with Father Guido Sarducci moving into Rodney's
dressing room, and borrowing $50 from Rodney for pot he's buying from Jane
Curtin! (Get it? No respect?) Some classic stuff here. Billy Murray plays a
clerk at a sperm bank... and infertile couples want to buy Rodney's sperm! (I
didn't know you could say "jizz" on tv so long ago!) Larraine Newman is the
nurse who gives Rodney a copy of Playboy magazine and tells him to get busy.
Also very surpised to see Harry Sherer doing a spoof of Krugerrand gold coins
called "Niggerands"! I haven't finished watching it yet, but this is great tv.
Can't beleive these VHS tapes used to retail for $40. It does have a really
nice case though, with a nice color photo of Rodney on the cover.
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- Tony Soprano
ArtVandelay2000
".....Can't beleive these VHS tapes used to retail for $40. It does have a
really
nice case though, with a nice color photo of Rodney on the cover.
"
I just ran across adepartment store ad from April 1985 that featured VCRs sale
priced from $369.00 to $999.00. I suppose if you're paying a grand for a VCR,
forty bucks for a tape isn't out of line.
Jennifer
forever! They got it when VCRs first came out & it was something like
$1500. They did not get a new one until at least the late 90s. They also
had the same Sears stereo (complete with record player AND 8track) forever.
We were the only house on the street that never got broken into, I was like,
"Yeah no wonder Dad, our stuff is crap".
In fact they still have that old VCR and it still works, so whatever! I
think my dad was bitter that he paid so much for the thing and two years
later you could get one for like $200. At least he didn't get a Beta.
--
Jennifer
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Mibbitmaker
imagine Mike Meyers' Scotish store character saying that! :o)
Smashmark
clerk at a sperm bank... and infertile couples want to buy Rodney's sperm! (I
didn't know you could say "jizz" on tv so long ago!)
The censors were probably MORE lenient 20 years ago than today. They used to
get away with more back then....
gary thomas
>get away with more back then....
>
How did you come up with that opinion? We are much less censored today than we
were 20 years ago. For instance, a show like NYPD Blue would never have been
allowed to use the language it does 20 years ago. Asshole? Verboten back then,
acceptable today. As a matter of fact, today, you can even say a few of
Carlin's "7 Words You Can't Say On Television"....right there,
on...network...television!
Gary
Smashmark
back then. Look at the things Archie Bunker said -- do you think today's
censors would allow that on TV today? The content of Soap?
So they say "asshole" on NYPD. Maude called her husband a "son of a bitch" on
primetime TV over 25 years ago.
I guess it was just a different kind of content getting thru back then.
The"politically correct" aspect wasnt involved.
Just ask Howard Stern.
Im still amazed the "penis" skit ever got on the air.
gary thomas
>greater
>back then. Look at the things Archie Bunker said -- do you think today's
>censors would allow that on TV today? The content of Soap?
>
Gallant. He was the "wrong" example, so it was OK. By the way, those words are
still used on TV today, mostly on dramas for effect, but they are still used.
What did you mean by "the content of Soap"? Do you mean Bill Crystal's
homosexual character? If so, see "Will & Grace". I don't recall any 4 letter
words being used on Soap.
>So they say "asshole" on NYPD. Maude called her husband a "son of a bitch"
>on
>primetime TV over 25 years ago.
>
Well, that goes to prove my point. They STILL say "bitch" and "son of a bitch"
on TV, as well as many other words that they WEREN'T allowed to say back then,
so how can things be less lenient today?
>I guess it was just a different kind of content getting thru back then.
>The"politically correct" aspect wasnt involved.
>
You're right, there is more of a sensitivity to certain PC areas these days,
but overall, TV has gotten raunchier and more explicit.
>Just ask Howard Stern.
>
Most of the content on Howard's TV show wouldn't have been allowed to air 20
years ago. Again, this makes my point for me.
>Im still amazed the "penis" skit ever got on the air.
>
Or the "taint" sketch.
Joseph Nebus
Well, first -- there're two prices for tapes. There's the
price for when a tape is intended just for the video rental market;
that's typically some absurdly high price, the thinking being that
video stores won't care if the tape is $90.00, but your average
customer won't buy that. If you still want to buy it at that price,
they'll *sell* it to you, but this way a videotape distributor avoids
the fuss of individual sales. After the tape, if it *does* go through
a period in which it's marketed just to rental stores (this is less
common these days than it used to be) the price drops to the $20.00
or under range.
Second -- $40 for a video tape is not unheard of, particularly
for a tape that's a limited edition or of a specialized or niche market;
way back when, even tapes of Saturday Night Live may have fit in there.
I've paid $40 recently for tapes of pre-sound cartoons, for instance,
because that is an exotic and small market. Foreign films or films that
only exist because of massive restoration efforts may have the same
pricing range. (I'd like to take a comment to commend the Facets
organization, http://www.facets.org/, which has a stunning collection
of movies, TV shows, and anything else recorded to film or video. I
have no connection with them besides being a very happy customer.)
And, of course, ArtVandelay is correct that if you have paid a
thousand dollars for your VCR -- and that's when a thousand bucks was
some real money -- forty dollars for something to play on it isn't that
expensive.
Joseph Nebus
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Ms. Kara of Columbus
>
The funniest thing about the penis sketch was Mary Tyler Moore's commentary of
it when she hosted. Then when she announced the musical guest, (don't remember
who it was) she said "We've got a great show, Whomever's penis is here."
Kara
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All we are is dust in the wind, dude
Ms. Kara of Columbus
>years ago. Again, this makes my point for me.
OH, the advantages of cable.
gary thomas
>>years ago. Again, this makes my point for me.
>
>OH, the advantages of cable.
>
>Kara
Howard's Saturday night show isn't on cable, but regualr network television
(CBS, I believe).
Gary
Jennifer
accent is British, not Scottish...
"Well if you don't bloody well like it, hand in your Blockbuster card!!"
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Jennifer
and homophobic comments were more accepted 20 years ago, now we are very
politically correct, but you couldn't curse or show hairy bums back then!
(Thank God!)
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Bunezuela
>Jennifer
You mean the bums had to be shaved?
Bum lookah! Cheeky Monkey!!
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- Silvio Dante
Douglas North
than we were 20 years ago.<<
Well, I think it works both ways. Yes, we can now say "dickhead" and
"piss" on network TV, but could they do a sketch like Uncle Roy? "First,
He Cries"? Hell, "Goth Talk", was banned fo a couple of seasons after
Columbine happened. I think people are more sensitve to "issues" now,
but less sensitive to bodily/sexual humor.
Bunezuela
Dennis Miller was in it too. It was like a men's locker room or something.
"Hey Bob, nice penis." "Thanks."
gary thomas
>"piss" on network TV, but could they do a sketch like Uncle Roy? "First,
>He Cries"? Hell, "Goth Talk", was banned fo a couple of seasons after
>Columbine happened. I think people are more sensitve to "issues" now,
>but less sensitive to bodily/sexual humor.
Point taken, but I still disagree. The "Uncle Roy" sketch perhaps wouldn't air
in today's PC climate, but "In Living Color" did do some sketches that were
very politically incorrect such as "Handi-Man", and Carrey's grotesquely maimed
Fire Marshall. It's not just comedy shows that do walk that fine line between
PC and not-PC either, but dramas and especially daytime talk shows. Would
anyone have been allowed to do a show on "lesbian biker chicks who had sex with
a family member" or some other garbage like that, in the '70's? I think not.
Gary
Douglas North
wouldn't air in today's PC climate, but "In Living Color" did do some
sketches that<<
(good examples snipped)
Yeah I see what you mean. I still think, though, that they were looser
in SOME ways back then and could joke out certain things simply because
the censors were old and clueless. There seemed to be more drug humor
back then. I think the deaths of Belushi and Farley nailed that coffin
shut (except for pot jokes). But in general it is less restricted now,
as you say, particularly with drama shows. I mean we never had primetime
shows talking about fathers molesting daughters and semen samples in the
70s, did we? (BTW, I am referring to last Sunday's "The Practice", I
didn't just make that up =).
THEUS712
>>Most of the content on Howard's TV show wouldn't have been allowed to air 20
>>years ago. Again, this makes my point for me.
>
>OH, the advantages of cable.
>
And, oh the power of cheese.
>:-)
gary thomas
>in SOME ways back then and could joke out certain things simply because
>the censors were old and clueless. There seemed to be more drug humor
>back then. I think the deaths of Belushi and Farley nailed that coffin
>shut (except for pot jokes). But in general it is less restricted now,
>as you say, particularly with drama shows. I mean we never had primetime
>shows talking about fathers molesting daughters and semen samples in the
>70s, did we? (BTW, I am referring to last Sunday's "The Practice", I
>didn't just make that up =).
I just wonder where we're headed. How long will it be before we're seeing live
executions, uncensored news footage, sexual acts, etc... all on network
television? Television producers and programmers have sold out to the lowest
class of people in our society, sacrificing good taste and reason along the
way, all in the name of ratings. Daytime TV for example; why on earth would
they allow a woman to invite her fiance and his best man on TV only so she
could dump the fiance for the best man in front of millions of TV viewers? This
isn't just bad TV, it's bad taste and it's just plain cruel. She's had her 15
minutes of "fame", but is it justified? She treated another human being like
shit, broke his heart on national television, and it brought her a reward of
sorts. What kind of message is this sending to viewers, especially the younger
ones? Remember, this stuff is on regular TV, easily accessible to minors and
airs during the day when most parents are at work. I'm not for censorship, I
can only hope that someday people will come to their senses and that kind of
garbage will disappear altogether, but I am a realist and I know this isn't
likely to happen. As I stated before, television is going to get a whole lot
worse and I've got mixed feelings about it. Freedom is good, abuse of said
freedom is not.
Ok, I'm done ranting.
Gary
Ms. Kara of Columbus
>20
>>>years ago. Again, this makes my point for me.
>>
>>OH, the advantages of cable.
I didn't realize his network show was still on. Didn't they cancel it about 2
or 3 episodes in and send him back to E!?
I used to really not like him because he was so damned mean to people, even if
it was just a character he's playing, but now, people know what they are in for
when they go there, so hey, if he's mean to them, it's their bad. But then, I
remember the sketch with Molly as Monica Lewinsky and Howard asking her to be
on his show, and David Spade as her agent telling her "Once you get there, it
will be fat ass this and fat ass that." Then she said "Why would he do that?"
So maybe there really are people out there that wouldn't realize what they were
getting into.
gary thomas
>>20
>>>>years ago. Again, this makes my point for me.
>>>
>>>OH, the advantages of cable.
>
>I didn't realize his network show was still on. Didn't they cancel it about
>2
>or 3 episodes in and send him back to E!?
Several CBS affiliates have dropped his show, including the one right here in
the St.Pete/Tampa area. Luckily his show was picked up by another local
channel.
Gary
Ms. Kara of Columbus
>freedom is not.
So, ultimately, who decides what is freedom and what is abuse of freedom?
Complacency is like poison. If you take it one drop at a time, it just
eventually makes you immune to it. That is what has happened over the years
with TV. They slipped stuff in a little at a time, each time the majority
saying "Well, that's not really so bad if they don't take it any further."
Then the next time they've taken it further.
I think you are correct in your concern that eventually it will be "anything
goes," even on network TV. Thank God for V-Chip.
gary thomas
>>freedom is not.
>
>So, ultimately, who decides what is freedom and what is abuse of freedom?
I think the network programmers and producers are the ones who should
ultimately decide. It's their business, no one says we HAVE to watch their
product, so it's ultimately up to them. I don't think the government should
force "decency" on them, I'm not for government regulations on any of our
outlets for freedom of speech. I feel that the people whose job it is to fill
the airwaves should be responsible with what they're putting out there, that's
all. I doubt that we'll see things get better until we hit rock bottom.
Gary
Jennifer
Furley & Mr. Roper made their little comments, however it was acceptable
because Jack wasn't actually gay.
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Jennifer
you or I) got an invitation to Jerry Springer for a "secret revelation", I'd
have to assume neither of us would be like, "I don't know what's goin on,
but free trip to Chicago! I'm gonna be on JERRY!" I think we'd have to
look at the people around us & figure out that our lover is actually our
cousin who is sleeping with someone who pretends they're a dog.
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Jennifer
standing there in their undies, with one man down on all fours sniffing
each's crotch. Finally the guy picked one of the girls, "this is the one."
I'm like, "did I accidentally smoke some crack??? What is going on?"
Then I see good old Howard, "Yes, you have correctly picked the girl who has
bacterial vaginosis." The funny part was how defensive the girl was, until
she admitted that yes, she uses bubble bath and coloured toilet paper.
Actually the funny part was when I went out to lunch the next day and my
friend had watched the same thing...and yes we both continued watching.
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Bunezuela
>Furley & Mr. Roper made their little comments, however it was acceptable
>because Jack wasn't actually gay.
>--
>Jennifer
What's the difference between being gay and being actually gay?
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gary thomas
>you or I) got an invitation to Jerry Springer for a "secret revelation", I'd
>have to assume neither of us would be like, "I don't know what's goin on,
>but free trip to Chicago! I'm gonna be on JERRY!" I think we'd have to
>look at the people around us & figure out that our lover is actually our
>cousin who is sleeping with someone who pretends they're a dog.
>--
>Jennifer
I think I could easily turn it down, and I think you probably would too. Free
trip or not, you'd have to a) have no self esteem whatsoever, b) just not give
a shit about anything anymore, or c) be dumber than a stump, to appear on one
of those shows. I had a friend who's family went on one of those shows and it
was an embarrassment to everyone, family, friends, co-workers, you name it. Her
brother ruined her sister's wedding so they took their family squabble to air
and made complete asses out of themselves. It was like "Hey look at us! We're
behaving like total assholes, but we're on TV so that makes it OK!! Woohoo!!".
A terrible, terrible thing.
Gary
Ms. Kara of Columbus
>she admitted that yes, she uses bubble bath and coloured toilet paper.
That causes bacterial vaginosis? I never use bubble bath or colored toilet
paper, but that's just because it makes me itch. I just thought I was
allergic. Bubble bath can cause UTI's in some women, though.
THEUS712
the premise of the whole show. The only shred of plot.
>What's the difference between being gay and being actually gay?
>
BTW" Did you see the newest "Secrets" bit on Conan, now it's "Ritter Secrets"
with him telling a story about an actor killed by Norman Fell with a hammer.
I saw John Ritter on Broadway in "The Dinner Party" with Henry Winker. They
were great. If you live near NYC and like Neil Simon, check it out while the
show still going on. (The girl who played the heckler on a "Seinfeld" episode
is also in it, and she was good as well as dressed seductively in the show.)
THEUS712
Pinnette and Molly Shannon steal the show too.
Andrew Dice Clay is great too. He's the perfect slapstick mobster.
becca
I met John Ritter at SNL! Isn't he cute? He could've been like Chevy Chase and
blown everyone off, but he stopped and took pictures with all the fans. What a
nice guy.
becca
(for clarification, Chevy Chase wasn't there the week I went, but I've heard
he's a huge asshole...)
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seriously. It's only life after all."
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>was
>the premise of the whole show. The only shred of plot.
Really? I never watched it. So he was really the first gay character, before
Ellen Degeneres and what not?
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Ms. Kara of Columbus
>Really? I never watched it. So he was really the first gay character, before
>Ellen Degeneres and what not?
>
He was NOT gay!!! He only pretended to be gay so that Mr. Roper would let him
live with the two girls.
THEUS712
>"In Living Color" did do some sketches that were
>very politically incorrect such as "Handi-Man", and Carrey's grotesquely
>maimed
>Fire Marshall. It's not just comedy shows that do walk that fine line
That's why I think TV should be thankful that there was a show like "Mr. Show"
that mocks political correctness and exploits people's inner prejudices. The
whole point is to shock, and then a second later make that viewer realize,
"What am I so uptight about?"
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Curtin. The jokes are really slow and take a long time to set up. Nothing at
all like today's quick one-liners. Also Bill Murray messed up his cues twice,
he started one of his jokes before Jane Curtin had finished hers! The cool part
was Bill Murray's Celebrity Corner during WU. He "interviewed" Wally and
Beaver Cleaver! Classic stuff.
Another strange moment in this show, I thought I heard Dan Ackroyd announcing
the set up for a Garment Inspectors sketch. It wasn't Dan... it was his
brother Peter Ackroyd! (I think that's his name)
Also a great spoof of the Woody Allen movie "Manhattan" but it was called
Manhassett. Gilda played the Annie Hall-ish Diane Keaton Part.
Jennifer
Stern says...
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>As a matter of fact, today, you can even say a few of
>Carlin's "7 Words You Can't Say On Television"....right there,
>on...network...television!
True. I heard a late-night comic talk about his favorite gay country band,
the Chixie Dicks.
-- Coney O'Hare <http://www.rev.net/people/aloe/tv>
THEUS712
network TV dialogue.