Smallville needs to be retooled
Jake G
do. Something along the lines of some catastrophe happening which leads
everyone in the cast to some sort of amnesia about how much they know about
each other.Nobody would remember Clark's secret.This would also place Clark
in a position to be the daily planet reporter and then transition him into
the character we have all grown to love over the years. This creep of the
week and soap opera sub texts are really getting old.
bf
Hopefully with Millar and Gough supposedly quitting, this show will
get freshened up.
I foolishly had hopes that Kara would be an interesting character, but
other than the one time that she freed Clark from the Kryptonite cage,
she's done nothing really. The Zorel and Bizzaro stories really sucked
this year.
It's nice to see Fine back this season, but his story seems kind of
disjointed. I really don't know what he's trying to accomplish.
I agree that this show has generally been very boring the last few
years. There's been a few laughs (some not intentional) mixed in, but
it's pretty boring.
BC
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They should fire Chloe from the Planet -- let her go to the Inquisitor and
continue writing up articles on freaks on the rampage -- she becomes a sort
of Carl Kolchak. Clark can still use her for that. Then Lois, at the
Planet, pursues work investigating real criminals that will lead ultimately
to Lex. In many ways Lois and Chloe can be competitors.
Yabahoobs
> "bf" <bford...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
A statement hosted on kryptonsite today, released by CW Studios...
""Al Gough and Miles Millar have been great partners and instrumental
in the development and success of "Smallville." While we are sad to
see them go, we are very excited to announce that Executive Producers
Todd Slavkin, Darren Swimmer, Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson will
helm the show next season. Todd, Darren, Kelly, and Brian have been
writing for the show for the past six seasons, and as producers for
the last four years, they have played an integral role in the ongoing
creative evolution of the series. As showrunners, they will continue
to deliver the compelling storytelling that "Smallville" fans have
come to expect and love."
...yeah...compelling me to puke in disgust.
BC
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Yep.....guaranteed to be more of the same. I think they are the culprits
and not M&G.
M&G wrote a great Pilot script that nailed what the show was supposed to be
about. Maybe these other "producers" have been the ones to lead it down its
current path? I think the show's a goner...R.I.P. Smallville.
Speaking on the other note of Dr. Who -- I have seen nearly all of the new
series and never, ever once while watching, has that little thought of "that
simply doesn't make any sense", entered my mind. It is only Smallville that
repeatedly insults the senses. I've see a couple of bad screwups in CSI --
but not several per show. I think that years ago when Smallville started to
diverge from the known Superman path that they created a Pandora's box type
of tangled plots and now they've been caught in their web. They need to
make one good 2 hour final show with Clark becoming Superman -- Lex moves to
Metropolis -- Lois settles down at the paper -- Chloe moves to Gotham --
Lionel dies -- Kara departs for another world or Jor-el puts her in
stasis -- etc., to clean up the mess.
Benjamin Pavsner
to do. Meaning show how an extraterrestrial orphan raised as a Kansas
farmboy grows up to be the worlds greatest superhero. Plain as that. Do what
Straczynki did with Babylon 5 or Ron Moore did with Battlestar Galactica and
put a time limit on how many seasons you'll do. Three words on Smallville's
problem? Lack of discipline.
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Yabahoobs
> "Yabahoobs" <chendrik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Despite some steadfast nerds in this group, I still contend that sci-
fi will inevitably have some things that defy known science and thus
appear illogical...
...But Smallville is filled with raw stupidity, and laziness on the
part of the writers.
Yabahoobs
>Three words on Smallville's problem? Lack of discipline.
Well put. Totally agree. I'd HAVE to add ''lazy writing" in there too
though.
BC
Exactly. I have always, at least since high school, read and loved Science
Fiction. I don't have a problem with fanciful ideas when they work within a
story. But in Smallville, some of the ideas work against what they've set
up in the past. It is indicative of the story being written or controlled,
not by one single mind, but by several.
Examples are the way a small piece of Green K can fell Clark from 10 feet,
and a crate of chewing gum laced with the stuff seems to be just a
curiosity. Also we've seen Green K put him into jeopardy many times and
then we see that he can use his heat vision to change it to another form.
They did that only when it suited them to cause some other effect. Clark
flies when he's posessed or asleep or he produces a similar effect when he
falls faster to catch someone like Chloe or Lana but then we see that he's
afraid of heights even though he's fallen on his face from orbit without any
damage being done. We were even told that he remembered lfying when he was
convinced he was Kal-el in Crusade. When asked how it felt he responded,
not that he was afraid, but only that he wondered what else he could do if
he could accomplish that.
BC
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> If retooled, I think Smallville needs to do one thing: do as it was billed
> to do. Meaning show how an extraterrestrial orphan raised as a Kansas
> farmboy grows up to be the worlds greatest superhero. Plain as that. Do
> what Straczynki did with Babylon 5 or Ron Moore did with Battlestar
> Galactica and put a time limit on how many seasons you'll do. Three words
> on Smallville's problem? Lack of discipline.
Agreed. Those are fine examples. Smallville seems to use formulas which
rely heavily on the "red herring" to mislead us. In between that helping of
fish is a plentiful offering of foreshadowing, for the fan that knows the
story, as a sort of tease about something we would like to see in this
series but they know will never happen. Red herrings that lead nowhere and
foreshadowing without a purpose I regard as an insult.
Martin Phipps
> It's just the same thing week after week. Here's what I think they need to
> do. Something along the lines of some catastrophe happening which leads
> everyone in the cast to some sort of amnesia about how much they know about
> each other.
Overkill. Why don't they set Season 8 a whole year after Season 7?
Clark has been training with Jor-El and comes back bigger, stronger
and played by a different actor. Now Lex won't recognize him as Clark
when he's Superman.
Martin
Anim8rFSK
<30ae2c05-55d3-471a...@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Yabahoobs <chend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ""Al Gough and Miles Millar have been great partners and instrumental
> in the development and success of "Smallville." While we are sad to
> see them go, we are very excited to announce that Executive Producers
> Todd Slavkin, Darren Swimmer, Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson will
> helm the show next season.
Souders and Peterson are the incompetent hack behind "perhaps his power
source is energy"
The top two people they should have fired are now in charge.
--
Star Trek 09:
No Shat, No Show.
http://www.disneysub.com/board/noshat.jpg
Jake G
One of the things that has ruined the show is everybody and their brother
knows Clark's secret.This was always a great tease in the comics as a sub
plot. The other thing right now is the strange relationship between Clark
and Lana. It's like they want them together but not sure how.It's quite a
contrast to how Clark and Chole seem to be at ease in their
relationship.Yeah they really managed to botch the whole Kara thing. The
editor of the Daily Planet gets killed and no one bats an eye.There's very
little continuity to the show,but you know casting and writing for shows
and movies have gotten worse over the past 10 years.They completely
destroyed Superman in the last movie and I can't be any sicker of Lex
Luthor being the villan.Whatever happened to that little creep that
Superman had to trick into saying his name backwards? Mr. Mxypelix or
something.
Hunter
I doubt you will get a major retool in its last season. "Smallville" has all but run
its course. Next season will be the set up for his becoming Superman just like this
season was the setup for Lex Luthor to become the thouroughly Evil Lex that everyone
knows.
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
David B
You watch every week so you must like puking.
Joe Bergeron
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> Souders and Peterson are the incompetent hack behind "perhaps his power
> source is energy"
The abject stupidity of Kara's remark was like a sledgehammer blow to
the head. Let's see you find something that doesn't run on energy, you
anorexic strumpet.
--
Joe Bergeron
BC
"Joe Bergeron" <jaber...@earthlink.nettled> wrote in message
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> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-A3D6C...@news.west.cox.net>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Souders and Peterson are the incompetent hack behind "perhaps his power
>> source is energy"
>
> The abject stupidity of Kara's remark was like a sledgehammer blow to
> the head. Let's see you find something that doesn't run on energy, you
> anorexic strumpet.
LOL! I think I used to play a strumpet in high school -- well anyway it
didn't sound like a trumpet.